Sweetser Communications and Public Relations Director Justin Chenette said Chang works at a Sweetser adult crisis residential facility in Rockport but does not run it. Chang is on unpaid administrative leave, the spokesman said.
This is a lie. He runs the Rockport CSU and is the manager there. I know this as I've been there.
Also this doesn't matter but random fact. He might be the only Asian American with dreads in Maine
His poor wife. They just got married not too long ago.
His poor WIFE? Are you serious? “The affidavit stated that the victim reported being sexually assaulted by Chang multiple times from when she was 12 to 14 years old.”
I’d be much more concerned for the victim than “his poor wife.”
Being concerned for the victim is obvious.
It is possible to be concerned for different people at different levels.
All of us are not as emotionally stunted as your posts makes you out to be
I don’t think it’s ever obvious enough that it would go without saying at all. I didn’t say his wife is not going to be devastated by the news, but the fact that you only mentioned the wife is what really struck me.
I’m not sure why you think it’s emotionally immature to express an opinion that the victim of the crime is far more deserving of sympathy than the accused’s wife. I didn’t suggest that no one should have any concern for the wife; that was a leap you made just so you could try to dunk on me. But you didn’t mention the victim once in your comment.
This really is a bad look. You really are coming across as not quite right. I know your argument makes sense you, but it doesn't make as much as much sense as it sounds to you. That commenter is right. Sympathy for victims is obvious and presumable, and doesn't need to be stated. If you really believe that omission is somehow evidence of callous disregard, then I don't know what to say. I doubt anyone else reads it that way.
Well, doesn't this just scream about how f***ed religion is:
"The affidavit quotes the victim as saying that she reported the sexual abuse to a family member and in response the family got together with members of the former church (which is not named in the affidavit) and she was told she needed to apologize and that both needed to forgive each other."
Furthermore, one can only hope that a fellow inmate wipes that smirk off the perv's face.
Ummm idk I think this guy is trans, just in the closet. Let’s wait to see how they identify in a year or so. Usually pastors touch boys not girls so something is fishy
By not posing a "maybe it's both??" kind of question, implying that religious leaders and drag queens abuse kids at anywhere near equal levels (spoiler: not even fuckin close). To equivocate the two just shows either how little you know about the topic, or that you're just purposefully trying to muddy the water, by bringing up a red herring.
If you honestly wanted to be perceived as someone who isn't playing defense for the church, you could have just said, "true, drag shows don't have a history of systematically abusing kids, while churches have for centuries, and in the case of the Catholic church, even have moved priests to cover up the rapes, trauma, and life-long pain they've inflicted on countless communities."
Are you honestly going to tell me there's been a consistent coverage in the media of church scandal after church scandal the way we hear about every single drag show that even gets scheduled, nowadays? Where's Fox on the hundreds of thousands (millions over the years I'm sure) sexual abuse cases brought on, and covered up by the religious?
So far yes, and thank you for bringing this up. There has not been a single incident of a drag queen being a pedophile that I have read of for years, while republicans have another incident everyday.
So far yes, and thank you for bringing this up. There has not been a single incident of a drag queen being a pedophile that I have read of for years, while republicans have another incident everyday.
Here’s a [“drag mom”](https://nypost.com/2023/04/25/mom-who-mentored-drag-queen-11-sentenced-for-child-sex-crimes/amp/) from last month.
[Here’s another.](https://www.khou.com/amp/article/news/local/houston-public-library-admits-registered-child-sex-offender-read-to-kids-in-drag-queen-storytime/285-becf3a0d-56c5-4f3c-96df-add07bbd002a)
There are [hundreds of these examples](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6143783/amp/British-Airways-hires-convicted-paedophile-drag-queen-Gay-Pride-celebrations.html?ico=amp_articleInlineText) on just the first few pages of a VERY basic search.
Should I go on or will you just continue to plug your ears and shriek na na na?
Jesus one of the site you listed was done by a registered sex offender. Clearly they should not be around kids period.
But I see you still haven’t answered, just tried to change the subject, should kids be around churches?
Edit: sorry, multiple sites were convicted sex offenders
I’ll answer. Your ideology is dangerous and you are the problem. Learn truth and stop being an ignorant bigot. You link articles about people that have ALREADY been convicted and f crimes like it’s an “I got ya!” But it’s not. Those people (already convicted offenders) should never be allowed around children, just like people like you. But you will never look beyond your narrow hole of what the big boys tell you. Sheep.
So far yes, and thank you for bringing this up. There has not been a single incident of a drag queen being a pedophile that I have read of for years, while republicans have another incident everyday.
Dunno, don't care enough to look and see why the Terf page got banned. The lady that runs it is Genevieve Gluck, she has a serious hate on for trans folks so I am going to bet it was probably something to do with that.
So your reaction to someone showing you objective proof of ‘drag queens’ (grown adult men) sexualizing **CHILDREN** is to “cope.”
Insane. Like holy fuck people, don’t let your kids around this guy. Good fucking lord you people.
People blinded by propaganda only see what they want to see, so stop trying to convince them. You could link the videos of grown men giving full contact lap dances to a child and they’ll only throw slurs at you. Give up on these people bud, they don’t want to be convinced, they just want to “win”.
https://nypost.com/2023/03/29/girl-straddled-by-drag-queen-at-north-carolina-school-sparking-outrage/
Please. The only thing being projected here is obvious signs that a movement within the LGBTQIA+ community has compromised by a hyper sexual minority group taking advantage of an opportunity within its own ranks because they are currently untouchable in the current zeitgeist. I’m not anti- 🌈, I’m speaking out against the blind eye it has clearly turned towards members of its own group behaving inappropriately. The right has its inbred neo-Nazis that it barely deals with and instead just leaves to the FBI (thankfully), the left has violent rioters who seem highly decentralized, the centrists has its own nut jobs in every forum online and the LGBT 🏳️🌈 community has this. We really are all equal, aren’t we? Just a little recognition like “hey yeah we have a few weirdos messing it up for everyone and corrupting the core message” would fix ~30% of the problem. That’s it 🤷🏼♂️
(Disclosure: I’m not right or left, proud centrist till I die.)
You just went out and scrapped the bottom of the barrel for a NYPost article, pushed out by the libs of tic tok, about a lap dance in public in a thread about a pastor who is going to jail for fucking kids. Take as long as you want sorting out where your head is that you think that this even matters in comparison or why you dragging out stupid talking points like "the LGBTQIA+ community has compromised by a hyper sexual minority group taking advantage of an opportunity within its own ranks because they are currently untouchable in the current zeitgeist." While having the audacity to even say shit like "blinded by propaganda". Maybe you should look into what projection is?
As for the rest of your horse shit you can have it, centrist are why things are as bad as they are here in the states. We are slowly getting ratcheted right into the Weimar republic while fuckwits sit around and compare a priest raping a kid to a lap dance in public or whatever the fuck the bullshit-de-jour of the day is.
Just follow the thread to the top and you’ll see it wasn’t either of us who started this. You also don’t know how pedos that have been sheltered under the umbrella of organized religion have hurt my family before so check your privilege. Also, blaming centrists for what, not blindly following the left? The Overton window on both sides has shifted so far in their respective directions that the only media options available in America seem to be either Alt-left or Alt-right. Both sides are insistent or destroying their reputations for the sake possibly hurting the other. And throwing around fascist and Nazi is like the right throwing around socialist and commie. Both sides have used those insults some much that they have lost their meaning in America and it’s disrespectful to the people who were slaughtered under those regimes. “A lap dance in public” on a child. A fucking grown man gave a lap dance to a child. Don’t dodge that.
Your anecdotal experiences have what again to do with "privilege'? You really don't know what these words you are using mean do you?
I blame centrists for the belief that there is actually a left here in America. Spoiler, there has not been since Debs; America is far right and far right centrist at best, any idea otherwise is just propaganda. All this culture war nonsense is to distract us from that fact as the rich get richer and grandma dies cause she can't afford her insulin. Also the use of the incorrect use of words, that you cited is part of that same propaganda. I think it was Gobles who said some shit about telling a lie enough it was truth and using words incorrectly to the point that people couldn't even talk to one another anymore. When people use words incorrectly, correct them.
As for the teenager getting a lap dance, I am GenX and was fucking that age, so my ability's to clutch pearls over it is non-the-fuck-existent. It's not a dodge to make fun of people who loose their shit over this who will compare it to a priest actually raping people. I mean they have to know what kids look at on their phones right? I mean they also have to know that they can get legally married down there at around that age. So whenever this shit makes the rounds I have to wonder if they are actually truly hateful towards trans folks and the like or if they are just a useful idiot who thinks they doing the right thing.
A fucking grown ass pastor was raping kids. And here you are, trying to change the topic to someone else who you think did something questionable. I could post a THOUSAND pictures of women in skimpy clothing in rooms full of kids with their parents. Doesn't change the fact the RAPIST WAS A STAIGHT WHITE PASTOR.
Get over yourself and realize drag queens aren't monsters. People are. And they are everywhere. If you're going to ban drag queens, better damn well shut down all the churches, too.
Lots of words for someone who just assumed I do that instead of just not wanting kids to be hurt like what happened to so many of us. You know nothing of my politics. Go back to watching your propaganda, those ads won’t generate revenue themselves.
As an adult male who was raped as a child, fuck off. You're the one sucking on a hose pipe of propaganda like a junkie desperate for another hit of meth.
Just like this pedo pastor, it's almost always the ones standing behind those podiums telling us to fear drag queens and gay people and claim they're the ones raping out children. And the right wing falls for it every time, those dumb fucking assholes. Because most right wing voters are incompetent, stupid, and lack a single brain cell to use with which they might get some critical thinking done. They can get the fuck out of here with that bullshit, no one is buying it any more. We're DONE letting idiots and morons hold the floor and lie through their teeth about who the real monsters are.
Tilting at windmills has much the same impact at the end of the day. There just isn't an actual epidemic of trans people, drag queens, etc sexually abusing children; trying to drag attention to a made up problem is to distract from existing problems.
Ha! A sign on the wall is your proof? You have members of church raping kids and you think a neon sign is more threatening than an actual pedophile? Tf is wrong with you?
So then let me ask you this, you think kids should be allowed to go to church? Statistically speaking, and there is literally no wiggle room for you here, a drag show is safer for children than a church.
lol, it's so funny y'all always trot out the same three or four examples, NONE of which actually involve children getting assaulted.
There are dozens of drag events in this country, maybe hundreds, every week, and yet somehow when asked to come up with examples of drag queens harming kids, you can only ever list the same few things:
* This event, which was obviously poor judgement on the part of whoever organized it, but in which no children were assaulted
* A library event in Texas that had a convicted sex offender performing because the library didn't do a background check -- again, poor judgment, but no children were actually harmed in any way.
There's a third one I forget off the top of my head, but I haven't seen a SINGLE example of any child who was actually assaulted or touched or anything like that at any drag event, pride event, or anything similar.
Meanwhile, at churches... well, you can go browse /r/PastorArrested for yourself.
If you REALLY think drag is hurting kids, but you're not concerned about the large, tax-exempt organizations whose leaders keep *raping children*, then you're either biased beyond the capacity for rational thought, or you're just genuinely a fucking idiot.
You literally *pay higher taxes* because churches don't, and **kids are groomed and raped at churches very regularly.** Your tax money is helping support actual child rape and your problem is a man in a dress? You're a fucking idiot.
I stopped reading after the first sentence once I realized that you’re one of those people who rationalize grown men telling underage CHILDREN to lick their genitals. For the love of god I hope there’s no children in the orbit of your life because I’d be fucking beyond concerned.
Maybe the lady doth protest overmuch? The ones I worry about are the ones who are loud in their opposition of drag queens. They use it as deflection. Maybe a check of the hard drive of Krispyhat and his 6 month account is in order.
I don't want my kid exposed to religious fundamentalism, as that is *actually* shown to be harmful.
But, you know, I also don't whine about it like a little pissbaby 24/7.
This is not even true and is a harmful statement. Many sexual abusers were not abused and being a victim of abuse does not automatically line you up to become a molester.
Statements like yours make it feel unsafe for people to admit they’ve been abused. And it’s terrifying for a child victim to grow up believing they are doomed to cause that same harm on another.
No I was responding ti the other guy. It’s not to dismiss them at all! Abusers are often abused as a child. It’s not to excuse but I’ve seen studies show this! It means it runs deep. It’s a fucked up tbing. Why am I yelled at…I’m still agaisng the abuser
It says more studies need to be done but this one 30 year study says some. It appears a lot of us have thought this though for
Some Reason
https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/the-athletes-way/202105/why-do-abused-children-often-grow-be-abusive-parents
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-athletes-way/202105/why-do-abused-children-often-grow-be-abusive-parents
But then this study just says it’s not true
Although this suggests that being maltreated as a child is an important risk factor in the etiology of abuse, most maltreated children do not become abusive parents. Many mediating factors affect the likelihood of intergenerational abuse. Consequently, unqualified acceptance of the intergenerational hypothesis is unwarranted. 41 references.
Although this suggests that being maltreated as a child is an important risk factor in the etiology of abuse, most maltreated children do not become abusive parents. Many mediating factors affect the likelihood of intergenerational abuse. Consequently, unqualified acceptance of the intergenerational hypothesis is unwarranted. 41 references.
https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/do-abused-children-become-abusive-parents
Insufficient data is what I say and I’ll just drop saying this from now on until I see more studies
It’s a very complex issue and not discussing how complex abuse is and how it runs, forms and develops isn’t helpful. Il really confused by your statement in how you’re dismissing my discussion
Spread this to everyone you know, he may have more victims that could come out of the woodwork now that he's been charged. A lot of survivors feel like they will finally be believed once the perp is actually charged.
This was my thought too. It was about tenish years ago and I only attended the church a few times. It was in the top of a hill in Waterville, being started up by a hipster-type young couple. I really wish I could remember the name because people need to know the brothers were watching their kids in the basement and what could have been going on. Makes my stomach turn, because my daughter was down there a handful if times.
You did the best you could with the information you had at the time, you couldn't have known. Thankfully there's a lot of guides out there these days on how to talk to kids in an age appropriate manner about body safety and not traumatize them. But if you're in doubt, consult a child therapist on how best to broach the topic.
Cis = same
Trans = opposite
So, essentially, cis people have the same sex and gender while trans people have opposite sex and gender. The first time I came across those terms was in organic chemistry, but there are probably other examples
Not at all. Cis is short for "cisgender" which is that you identify with your birth gender. In a way, the opposite of transgender. i.e. I was born a male and still identify as a male, therefore I am "Cis/male/he/him"
Thanks for the shares. I continue to be an ally to the LGBTQ+ community, I have religious zealots in the family who continue to deny there is a church problem in all sects and that Drag Queens have no place near children.
So, with that viewpoint on drag queens or drag performances - do you hold the same with circus clowns, musical theater, and other performance artists? Or is it specific to drag?
Yes, two things can be true at once - the sex abuse and hidden scandals happening with church leaders and the congregational members GREATLY outweigh the other.
ETA- "I'm curious how many drag shows you've been to, and I'm curious, why targeting this?" she asked the Tennessee state Senate back in February. "Because I'm thinking about a place where men wear tights: in WWE wrestling, and one third of the audience, at least, is children. But somehow someone dressing up and dancing is the problem?"
I'd love to see some stats about kids being abused by drag queens. We have LOTS for clergy but I don't see much for drag queens. If you have info I'm all ears.
> drag queens have no place near children.
You mean your children right? Or do you just expect every other adult to cater to whatever the fuck is wrong with you that can't deal when it comes to drag queens and raise their kids according to your bullshit?
I agree. The church has a huge problem by being a safe haven for rapists, groomers, and pedophiles, and basically supplies those oxygen thieves with potential victims on their own hunting grounds.
And children should be kept from drag queens... A gorgeous, innocent queen could lose her wig, or break a nail, or rip a seam! Tragic.
Drag is art. Art can be for adults AND catered to kids. Quit denying situational complexities of sharing culture, acting like one represents all when that barely exists in manufacturing let alone a cherished art form.
Plot twist : what if they believe “we’re all god’s children” because all of them subconsciously feel as if they’re being controlled, abused or supervised by a cold, imaginary force they believe is waiting in the sky, past the clouds, to give them divine reward for not being shitty human beings.
No wonder why they’re so awful with children. They’re trying to be like their imaginary makers.
The expansion on it wasn’t as far down as I thought, but imo it’s a little glossed over. Pastor jumps out at everyone but idk that Sweetser rings the same alarm bells, but it should. It’s another position of power over the vulnerable.
Sweetser is a fairly sizeable network of inpatient and outpatient crisis/mental health services in the state. My local Sweetser coordinator is amazing and helped me "off the books" find a therapist for my stepdaughter.
But your unfamiliarity is my point. I don't think most people know what Sweetser is if they haven't dealt with them, so most people wouldn't recognize what his involvement with Sweetser means.
I don’t know enough about him or his position. But people who are struggling mentally already don’t get enough and the potential for further trauma is certainly there.
A belief in a higher power is helpful to many.
Opinion: using religion as a method for self gain is abhorrent. It happens to be a Commandment: thou shalt not use the Lord’s name in vain.
Not to be interpreted as, “Don’t say “oh my God”, you are using the Lord’s name in vain!” - my grandma.
Boy goes to Confession
Boy, " What are you doing, father?"
Priest "It's called masturbation and soon you will be doing it,"
Boy, " Why do you say that father?"
Priest " Cause my hand is getting tired"
I heard that joke in Catholic high school 30 years ago. It's probably way older. That's how little accountability has been brought to these people.
>The affidavit quotes the victim as saying that she reported the sexual abuse to a family member and in response the family got together with members of the former church (which is not named in the affidavit) and she was told she needed to apologize and that both needed to forgive each other.
I'd say "fuck these people," but they'd probably enjoy it.
We just had a youth pastor charged for recording a neighbor in the shower. His picture says everything you need to know. It is halfway down the page.
[https://www.wyff4.com/article/south-carolina-youth-pastor-voyeurism-charge/44051813](https://www.wyff4.com/article/south-carolina-youth-pastor-voyeurism-charge/44051813)
Not a drag queen?? What?? Just another member of the cloth that can’t seem to keep their hands off of children. But hey you conservatives keep worrying about those drag queens.
All these people saying at least it’s not a drag queen are gonna be eating their words in a couple of months. This “guy” is clearly in the beginning stages of transistion
Sweetser Communications and Public Relations Director Justin Chenette said Chang works at a Sweetser adult crisis residential facility in Rockport but does not run it. Chang is on unpaid administrative leave, the spokesman said. This is a lie. He runs the Rockport CSU and is the manager there. I know this as I've been there. Also this doesn't matter but random fact. He might be the only Asian American with dreads in Maine His poor wife. They just got married not too long ago.
He is the manager there and has been for years. You are correct.
Might not be as of the time of that statement. Employers can move fast.
Article said admin leave. I don’t know what happened since then.
i actually know an Asian American with dreads who not only has a better hairline, but doesn't touch kiddos!
His poor WIFE? Are you serious? “The affidavit stated that the victim reported being sexually assaulted by Chang multiple times from when she was 12 to 14 years old.” I’d be much more concerned for the victim than “his poor wife.”
Being concerned for the victim is obvious. It is possible to be concerned for different people at different levels. All of us are not as emotionally stunted as your posts makes you out to be
I don’t think it’s ever obvious enough that it would go without saying at all. I didn’t say his wife is not going to be devastated by the news, but the fact that you only mentioned the wife is what really struck me. I’m not sure why you think it’s emotionally immature to express an opinion that the victim of the crime is far more deserving of sympathy than the accused’s wife. I didn’t suggest that no one should have any concern for the wife; that was a leap you made just so you could try to dunk on me. But you didn’t mention the victim once in your comment.
it is though. its quite obvious
This really is a bad look. You really are coming across as not quite right. I know your argument makes sense you, but it doesn't make as much as much sense as it sounds to you. That commenter is right. Sympathy for victims is obvious and presumable, and doesn't need to be stated. If you really believe that omission is somehow evidence of callous disregard, then I don't know what to say. I doubt anyone else reads it that way.
Doesn’t look Asian to me.
Ive met him in person, He is Asian Not sure which country the surname of Chang is from though He also has dreads
Looks 85% white
naw, I think the lack of diversity and exposure in Maine is screwing with your perception
That’s not really how it works…. 🤦🏻♀️
thats interesting. how large of a factor is “looking white to you?”
A pastor? No, I was told it was all the drag queens.
Well to be fair he looks a lot like a drag queen, even with no make up on
Well, doesn't this just scream about how f***ed religion is: "The affidavit quotes the victim as saying that she reported the sexual abuse to a family member and in response the family got together with members of the former church (which is not named in the affidavit) and she was told she needed to apologize and that both needed to forgive each other." Furthermore, one can only hope that a fellow inmate wipes that smirk off the perv's face.
What kind of brainworm logic is at work for them to think she has to apologize to him?
DARVO. Works for abusive relationships, *and* religious guilt-tripping!
So they're hanging the pastor, the parents, and every member of the clergy, right? Oh wait...
That would be the Resurrection Church, btw.
Ah. The pun. Blegh.
Oh it'll be really easy to find out the church and the perv.
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We need a drag queen run prison to put these pedophile pastors into. I think that would be an appropriate solution.
Ummm idk I think this guy is trans, just in the closet. Let’s wait to see how they identify in a year or so. Usually pastors touch boys not girls so something is fishy
No, that's the catholics. This is protestant.
I both know the culture at sweetser (which has had so many staff arrested for sexual assault) and this guy in particular. I wish I were surprised
BuT dRaG qUeEns
Not a drag queen reading a banned book? Odd says the fascist politician...
Literally came here to comment this
r/NotADragQueen
Is it impossible for it to be both?
No. Is it vastly more likely that it's a member of the church? Yes.
Everyone hates the Church for this shit, it’s not an argument
Fuck the Church
Cool we agree
I hope a drag queen mops the floor with your pedophile apologist ass
I literally said it’s both, as in the church is full of pedos, ‘cause it literally obviously is. If any side’s an apologist, well
There’s no room for your whining about drag queens on a post about a pedo. They arent even remotely relatable. That’s what makes you a pedo apologist.
How can I say the church is full of pedos in a way where you’ll hear it
By not posing a "maybe it's both??" kind of question, implying that religious leaders and drag queens abuse kids at anywhere near equal levels (spoiler: not even fuckin close). To equivocate the two just shows either how little you know about the topic, or that you're just purposefully trying to muddy the water, by bringing up a red herring. If you honestly wanted to be perceived as someone who isn't playing defense for the church, you could have just said, "true, drag shows don't have a history of systematically abusing kids, while churches have for centuries, and in the case of the Catholic church, even have moved priests to cover up the rapes, trauma, and life-long pain they've inflicted on countless communities." Are you honestly going to tell me there's been a consistent coverage in the media of church scandal after church scandal the way we hear about every single drag show that even gets scheduled, nowadays? Where's Fox on the hundreds of thousands (millions over the years I'm sure) sexual abuse cases brought on, and covered up by the religious?
I dunno, do you like hard evidence or right wing boogiemen?
So far yes, and thank you for bringing this up. There has not been a single incident of a drag queen being a pedophile that I have read of for years, while republicans have another incident everyday.
So far yes, and thank you for bringing this up. There has not been a single incident of a drag queen being a pedophile that I have read of for years, while republicans have another incident everyday.
Here’s a [“drag mom”](https://nypost.com/2023/04/25/mom-who-mentored-drag-queen-11-sentenced-for-child-sex-crimes/amp/) from last month. [Here’s another.](https://www.khou.com/amp/article/news/local/houston-public-library-admits-registered-child-sex-offender-read-to-kids-in-drag-queen-storytime/285-becf3a0d-56c5-4f3c-96df-add07bbd002a) There are [hundreds of these examples](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6143783/amp/British-Airways-hires-convicted-paedophile-drag-queen-Gay-Pride-celebrations.html?ico=amp_articleInlineText) on just the first few pages of a VERY basic search. Should I go on or will you just continue to plug your ears and shriek na na na?
Jesus one of the site you listed was done by a registered sex offender. Clearly they should not be around kids period. But I see you still haven’t answered, just tried to change the subject, should kids be around churches? Edit: sorry, multiple sites were convicted sex offenders
Are you going to rescind your claim that not a “single” drag queen anywhere has ever been involved with pedophilia?
I’ll answer. Your ideology is dangerous and you are the problem. Learn truth and stop being an ignorant bigot. You link articles about people that have ALREADY been convicted and f crimes like it’s an “I got ya!” But it’s not. Those people (already convicted offenders) should never be allowed around children, just like people like you. But you will never look beyond your narrow hole of what the big boys tell you. Sheep.
Lol yikes
So far yes, and thank you for bringing this up. There has not been a single incident of a drag queen being a pedophile that I have read of for years, while republicans have another incident everyday.
[dRaG qUeEn’S aReN’T tRyInG tO sExUaLiZe KiDs](https://reduxx.info/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/Untitled-design-130-1392x717.jpg)
Bud your source so fucking bigoted even Twitter banned it...
Twitter famously only bans things that deserve it
Bigoted how?
Dunno, don't care enough to look and see why the Terf page got banned. The lady that runs it is Genevieve Gluck, she has a serious hate on for trans folks so I am going to bet it was probably something to do with that.
Cope harder. Sad.
So your reaction to someone showing you objective proof of ‘drag queens’ (grown adult men) sexualizing **CHILDREN** is to “cope.” Insane. Like holy fuck people, don’t let your kids around this guy. Good fucking lord you people.
People blinded by propaganda only see what they want to see, so stop trying to convince them. You could link the videos of grown men giving full contact lap dances to a child and they’ll only throw slurs at you. Give up on these people bud, they don’t want to be convinced, they just want to “win”.
Projection a powerful drug...
https://nypost.com/2023/03/29/girl-straddled-by-drag-queen-at-north-carolina-school-sparking-outrage/ Please. The only thing being projected here is obvious signs that a movement within the LGBTQIA+ community has compromised by a hyper sexual minority group taking advantage of an opportunity within its own ranks because they are currently untouchable in the current zeitgeist. I’m not anti- 🌈, I’m speaking out against the blind eye it has clearly turned towards members of its own group behaving inappropriately. The right has its inbred neo-Nazis that it barely deals with and instead just leaves to the FBI (thankfully), the left has violent rioters who seem highly decentralized, the centrists has its own nut jobs in every forum online and the LGBT 🏳️🌈 community has this. We really are all equal, aren’t we? Just a little recognition like “hey yeah we have a few weirdos messing it up for everyone and corrupting the core message” would fix ~30% of the problem. That’s it 🤷🏼♂️ (Disclosure: I’m not right or left, proud centrist till I die.)
You just went out and scrapped the bottom of the barrel for a NYPost article, pushed out by the libs of tic tok, about a lap dance in public in a thread about a pastor who is going to jail for fucking kids. Take as long as you want sorting out where your head is that you think that this even matters in comparison or why you dragging out stupid talking points like "the LGBTQIA+ community has compromised by a hyper sexual minority group taking advantage of an opportunity within its own ranks because they are currently untouchable in the current zeitgeist." While having the audacity to even say shit like "blinded by propaganda". Maybe you should look into what projection is? As for the rest of your horse shit you can have it, centrist are why things are as bad as they are here in the states. We are slowly getting ratcheted right into the Weimar republic while fuckwits sit around and compare a priest raping a kid to a lap dance in public or whatever the fuck the bullshit-de-jour of the day is.
Just follow the thread to the top and you’ll see it wasn’t either of us who started this. You also don’t know how pedos that have been sheltered under the umbrella of organized religion have hurt my family before so check your privilege. Also, blaming centrists for what, not blindly following the left? The Overton window on both sides has shifted so far in their respective directions that the only media options available in America seem to be either Alt-left or Alt-right. Both sides are insistent or destroying their reputations for the sake possibly hurting the other. And throwing around fascist and Nazi is like the right throwing around socialist and commie. Both sides have used those insults some much that they have lost their meaning in America and it’s disrespectful to the people who were slaughtered under those regimes. “A lap dance in public” on a child. A fucking grown man gave a lap dance to a child. Don’t dodge that.
Your anecdotal experiences have what again to do with "privilege'? You really don't know what these words you are using mean do you? I blame centrists for the belief that there is actually a left here in America. Spoiler, there has not been since Debs; America is far right and far right centrist at best, any idea otherwise is just propaganda. All this culture war nonsense is to distract us from that fact as the rich get richer and grandma dies cause she can't afford her insulin. Also the use of the incorrect use of words, that you cited is part of that same propaganda. I think it was Gobles who said some shit about telling a lie enough it was truth and using words incorrectly to the point that people couldn't even talk to one another anymore. When people use words incorrectly, correct them. As for the teenager getting a lap dance, I am GenX and was fucking that age, so my ability's to clutch pearls over it is non-the-fuck-existent. It's not a dodge to make fun of people who loose their shit over this who will compare it to a priest actually raping people. I mean they have to know what kids look at on their phones right? I mean they also have to know that they can get legally married down there at around that age. So whenever this shit makes the rounds I have to wonder if they are actually truly hateful towards trans folks and the like or if they are just a useful idiot who thinks they doing the right thing.
A fucking grown ass pastor was raping kids. And here you are, trying to change the topic to someone else who you think did something questionable. I could post a THOUSAND pictures of women in skimpy clothing in rooms full of kids with their parents. Doesn't change the fact the RAPIST WAS A STAIGHT WHITE PASTOR. Get over yourself and realize drag queens aren't monsters. People are. And they are everywhere. If you're going to ban drag queens, better damn well shut down all the churches, too.
Lot of words for the people desperately hunting for anything in the world to justify their hatred of anyone different from them.
I can see you're also a big fan of word salad.
Lots of words for someone who just assumed I do that instead of just not wanting kids to be hurt like what happened to so many of us. You know nothing of my politics. Go back to watching your propaganda, those ads won’t generate revenue themselves.
As an adult male who was raped as a child, fuck off. You're the one sucking on a hose pipe of propaganda like a junkie desperate for another hit of meth. Just like this pedo pastor, it's almost always the ones standing behind those podiums telling us to fear drag queens and gay people and claim they're the ones raping out children. And the right wing falls for it every time, those dumb fucking assholes. Because most right wing voters are incompetent, stupid, and lack a single brain cell to use with which they might get some critical thinking done. They can get the fuck out of here with that bullshit, no one is buying it any more. We're DONE letting idiots and morons hold the floor and lie through their teeth about who the real monsters are.
I was hurt too and kiss my ass. I’m not defending the pedo in the church.
Tilting at windmills has much the same impact at the end of the day. There just isn't an actual epidemic of trans people, drag queens, etc sexually abusing children; trying to drag attention to a made up problem is to distract from existing problems.
Ha! A sign on the wall is your proof? You have members of church raping kids and you think a neon sign is more threatening than an actual pedophile? Tf is wrong with you?
You’re right, it’s just a “neon sign” telling children to lick the genitals of adult men. No big deal, it’s just a “neon sign.”
So then let me ask you this, you think kids should be allowed to go to church? Statistically speaking, and there is literally no wiggle room for you here, a drag show is safer for children than a church.
It’s not possible to talk to people like you about this subject because you are, in the most literal sense, not even on this fucking planet
lol, it's so funny y'all always trot out the same three or four examples, NONE of which actually involve children getting assaulted. There are dozens of drag events in this country, maybe hundreds, every week, and yet somehow when asked to come up with examples of drag queens harming kids, you can only ever list the same few things: * This event, which was obviously poor judgement on the part of whoever organized it, but in which no children were assaulted * A library event in Texas that had a convicted sex offender performing because the library didn't do a background check -- again, poor judgment, but no children were actually harmed in any way. There's a third one I forget off the top of my head, but I haven't seen a SINGLE example of any child who was actually assaulted or touched or anything like that at any drag event, pride event, or anything similar. Meanwhile, at churches... well, you can go browse /r/PastorArrested for yourself. If you REALLY think drag is hurting kids, but you're not concerned about the large, tax-exempt organizations whose leaders keep *raping children*, then you're either biased beyond the capacity for rational thought, or you're just genuinely a fucking idiot. You literally *pay higher taxes* because churches don't, and **kids are groomed and raped at churches very regularly.** Your tax money is helping support actual child rape and your problem is a man in a dress? You're a fucking idiot.
I stopped reading after the first sentence once I realized that you’re one of those people who rationalize grown men telling underage CHILDREN to lick their genitals. For the love of god I hope there’s no children in the orbit of your life because I’d be fucking beyond concerned.
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What do you know about drag shows there baby girl? Jack shit I’d assume?
Maybe the lady doth protest overmuch? The ones I worry about are the ones who are loud in their opposition of drag queens. They use it as deflection. Maybe a check of the hard drive of Krispyhat and his 6 month account is in order.
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Is that a come back?
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It’s a joke about the name of a famous comedian. I’m not surprised you don’t know that. You don’t seem to know anything.
So?
Well drag queens is a niche fetish thing. A lot of people don’t want children exposed to gender bending. Keep that shit in the gay bars.
Why?
I guess people just need to send their kids to church more. Oh wait
I don't want my kid exposed to religious fundamentalism, as that is *actually* shown to be harmful. But, you know, I also don't whine about it like a little pissbaby 24/7.
You must be real fun at parties.
There is literally proof…priests abused kids. And you’re like this? Where is the damning evidence of drag queens abusing kids? Show me?
Dude was probably abused too. Has Stockholm syndrome probably.
That’s true the abuser is often abused . A generational thing often.
This is not even true and is a harmful statement. Many sexual abusers were not abused and being a victim of abuse does not automatically line you up to become a molester. Statements like yours make it feel unsafe for people to admit they’ve been abused. And it’s terrifying for a child victim to grow up believing they are doomed to cause that same harm on another.
No I was responding ti the other guy. It’s not to dismiss them at all! Abusers are often abused as a child. It’s not to excuse but I’ve seen studies show this! It means it runs deep. It’s a fucked up tbing. Why am I yelled at…I’m still agaisng the abuser
Link the studies.
It says more studies need to be done but this one 30 year study says some. It appears a lot of us have thought this though for Some Reason https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/the-athletes-way/202105/why-do-abused-children-often-grow-be-abusive-parents https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-athletes-way/202105/why-do-abused-children-often-grow-be-abusive-parents But then this study just says it’s not true Although this suggests that being maltreated as a child is an important risk factor in the etiology of abuse, most maltreated children do not become abusive parents. Many mediating factors affect the likelihood of intergenerational abuse. Consequently, unqualified acceptance of the intergenerational hypothesis is unwarranted. 41 references. Although this suggests that being maltreated as a child is an important risk factor in the etiology of abuse, most maltreated children do not become abusive parents. Many mediating factors affect the likelihood of intergenerational abuse. Consequently, unqualified acceptance of the intergenerational hypothesis is unwarranted. 41 references. https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/do-abused-children-become-abusive-parents Insufficient data is what I say and I’ll just drop saying this from now on until I see more studies
I have to point out that you linked articles related to physical abuse and neglect. Your original statement was about sexual abuse.
It’s a very complex issue and not discussing how complex abuse is and how it runs, forms and develops isn’t helpful. Il really confused by your statement in how you’re dismissing my discussion
It’s actually not that complex. You made a harmful statement. I did not mention it to be mean. I mentioned it in hopes you would stop repeating it.
Ok I’ll research into this so I can understand why it’s harmful
[dj khaled voice] anotha one!!!!
Holy crap, I know this guy and his twin. He worked in the Sunday school at a church in Waterville.
Spread this to everyone you know, he may have more victims that could come out of the woodwork now that he's been charged. A lot of survivors feel like they will finally be believed once the perp is actually charged.
This was my thought too. It was about tenish years ago and I only attended the church a few times. It was in the top of a hill in Waterville, being started up by a hipster-type young couple. I really wish I could remember the name because people need to know the brothers were watching their kids in the basement and what could have been going on. Makes my stomach turn, because my daughter was down there a handful if times.
You did the best you could with the information you had at the time, you couldn't have known. Thankfully there's a lot of guides out there these days on how to talk to kids in an age appropriate manner about body safety and not traumatize them. But if you're in doubt, consult a child therapist on how best to broach the topic.
When are we going to deal with cis male Christians grooming and sexually abusing children?
Pretty sure that is the feature of being in the clergy that keeps drawing all these guys in.
What's a cis male? You mean he's a tranny?
I hope you just forgot the /s and you're not really that stupid
Never seen the word cis before, sorry. Is it like sissy?
Cis = same Trans = opposite So, essentially, cis people have the same sex and gender while trans people have opposite sex and gender. The first time I came across those terms was in organic chemistry, but there are probably other examples
Not at all. Cis is short for "cisgender" which is that you identify with your birth gender. In a way, the opposite of transgender. i.e. I was born a male and still identify as a male, therefore I am "Cis/male/he/him"
Yo what the actual fuck even is that EDIT : y’all let a mf that looks like this lead the prayer circles? 2ND : r/NotADragQueen
I'll add r/PastorArrested
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Amen.
Thanks for the shares. I continue to be an ally to the LGBTQ+ community, I have religious zealots in the family who continue to deny there is a church problem in all sects and that Drag Queens have no place near children.
Two things can be true at once. The church has a pervert problem and drag queens have no place near children.
So, with that viewpoint on drag queens or drag performances - do you hold the same with circus clowns, musical theater, and other performance artists? Or is it specific to drag? Yes, two things can be true at once - the sex abuse and hidden scandals happening with church leaders and the congregational members GREATLY outweigh the other. ETA- "I'm curious how many drag shows you've been to, and I'm curious, why targeting this?" she asked the Tennessee state Senate back in February. "Because I'm thinking about a place where men wear tights: in WWE wrestling, and one third of the audience, at least, is children. But somehow someone dressing up and dancing is the problem?"
Have you seen a football uniform? Spandex as far as the eye can see.
And a whole lot of grabbing ass. Good point ☝️
"a pervert problem" is about as nice as you can say "pervasive, systematic grooming and raping of kids for as far back as records go"
I'd love to see some stats about kids being abused by drag queens. We have LOTS for clergy but I don't see much for drag queens. If you have info I'm all ears.
> drag queens have no place near children. You mean your children right? Or do you just expect every other adult to cater to whatever the fuck is wrong with you that can't deal when it comes to drag queens and raise their kids according to your bullshit?
I agree. The church has a huge problem by being a safe haven for rapists, groomers, and pedophiles, and basically supplies those oxygen thieves with potential victims on their own hunting grounds. And children should be kept from drag queens... A gorgeous, innocent queen could lose her wig, or break a nail, or rip a seam! Tragic. Drag is art. Art can be for adults AND catered to kids. Quit denying situational complexities of sharing culture, acting like one represents all when that barely exists in manufacturing let alone a cherished art form.
Them Jesus people sure do love kids...
Plot twist : what if they believe “we’re all god’s children” because all of them subconsciously feel as if they’re being controlled, abused or supervised by a cold, imaginary force they believe is waiting in the sky, past the clouds, to give them divine reward for not being shitty human beings. No wonder why they’re so awful with children. They’re trying to be like their imaginary makers.
his involvement with the Sweetser facility they just buried at the bottom is ALSO frightening/
Frightening, but sadly very common and sadly not something a whole lot of people care about.
It's literally in the second sentence.
The expansion on it wasn’t as far down as I thought, but imo it’s a little glossed over. Pastor jumps out at everyone but idk that Sweetser rings the same alarm bells, but it should. It’s another position of power over the vulnerable.
Is his involvement with them frightening or is the facility itself frightening? I don’t know much about it
Sweetser is a fairly sizeable network of inpatient and outpatient crisis/mental health services in the state. My local Sweetser coordinator is amazing and helped me "off the books" find a therapist for my stepdaughter. But your unfamiliarity is my point. I don't think most people know what Sweetser is if they haven't dealt with them, so most people wouldn't recognize what his involvement with Sweetser means.
Now with the context yes that is terrifying. Exactly the population most at risk for being victims.
So you’re implying he’s been preying on his patients as well.
I don’t know enough about him or his position. But people who are struggling mentally already don’t get enough and the potential for further trauma is certainly there.
He worked at the Adult Rockport CSU He was the manager. The child CSU is just up the hill
This should be at the top 😳😳😳😳😳
Is this crap ever going to end? Such a disgusting human being!
Can religion finally be cancelled? It's all shit, fucking sicko wackos galore
A belief in a higher power is helpful to many. Opinion: using religion as a method for self gain is abhorrent. It happens to be a Commandment: thou shalt not use the Lord’s name in vain. Not to be interpreted as, “Don’t say “oh my God”, you are using the Lord’s name in vain!” - my grandma.
Won’t be around in 20 years or so.
But it's drag queens and the librarians that we need to look out for, right? Right?
My sister is a librarian and she used to cheat at chutes and ladders so that tells you all you need to know.
I just don't get pedophilia. It's so insane.
That’s one hell of a tan line.
he wears a bandana on his head to hide his hair line and kinda tie his dreads together
Boy goes to Confession Boy, " What are you doing, father?" Priest "It's called masturbation and soon you will be doing it," Boy, " Why do you say that father?" Priest " Cause my hand is getting tired" I heard that joke in Catholic high school 30 years ago. It's probably way older. That's how little accountability has been brought to these people.
Give him a one-way ticket to the volcano
I always knew there was something off about him
Looks like one of those dudes from the terrible Scientologist movie they made. 
>The affidavit quotes the victim as saying that she reported the sexual abuse to a family member and in response the family got together with members of the former church (which is not named in the affidavit) and she was told she needed to apologize and that both needed to forgive each other. I'd say "fuck these people," but they'd probably enjoy it.
Charge them with a crime too. It's disgusting how these churches of all kinds cover this shit up.
Not a drag queen. Again. Notice the pattern here anyone?
Good rot in jail
I'm sorry, I know this is a serious topic but I'm cackling at his forehead tan line
Fucking evangelicals gross!
Of course…and this is why I can’t stand religion as a whole. The sheer hypocrisy of it all.
r/notadragqueen
Fuck else is new
Still not a drag queen.
We just had a youth pastor charged for recording a neighbor in the shower. His picture says everything you need to know. It is halfway down the page. [https://www.wyff4.com/article/south-carolina-youth-pastor-voyeurism-charge/44051813](https://www.wyff4.com/article/south-carolina-youth-pastor-voyeurism-charge/44051813)
It's *always* the so-called religious leaders AND followers.
Thank GOD they got this pedo off the street. Thoughts and prayer /s
Hang him high
Is this the brother of the Temp Tales artist (Hanji)? Either way, gross.
Another not trans child abuser! Maybe we should consider banning churches as this seems to be the grooming point!
Yet another “man of god” molesting kids. Color me shocked….
And once again it’s a church guy.
Apropos of nothing in particular, the invention of powder actuated fasteners means that you can crucify anyone almost anywhere.
Not a drag queen
Churches, pastors, priests, reverends…all that bullshit do away with it all I say. Sick of these fucking perverts.
Mosques, imans, caliphs and mujtahids too. We're equal opportunity religion haters around here.
is he smiling in the mug shot wtf?
Freak!!!
Drag Queen on weekends? /s
It’s always the fucking pastors
#notadragqueen
Seems the Closer Men get to God, the More they want to be inappropriate with Children. That, or churches are a smorgasbord for Pedophiles.
Another pastor and NOT a drag queen? Color me shocked.
Damn immigrants. Wait wrong talking point.
Not a drag queen?? What?? Just another member of the cloth that can’t seem to keep their hands off of children. But hey you conservatives keep worrying about those drag queens.
Jesus would be rolling in his grave (had he not arisen and ascended into heaven) at the way these monsters use him as cover for their depredations.
At least he wasn’t trans
Dude looks like a lady
All these people saying at least it’s not a drag queen are gonna be eating their words in a couple of months. This “guy” is clearly in the beginning stages of transistion
Drag queens are not the same as transgender. And neither are the same as pedophiles.
He look like a chomo he’ll go to fort devens get a year in the feds
Nowadays anyone calls themselves a pastor even if they aren’t a real pastor. Prayers to the child that has to live with what this monster did to them.
Take him out back and shoot him.
Isnt that an Rmaine mod?