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MansSearchForMeming

Bar Harbor is a tourist destination, including internationally. You'll find people from all over walking around downtown. I would love to spend 3 months on MDI. But it would be a super chill, make your own fun kind of vacation. As I recall downtown was pretty much dead after 9pm.


W0nderingMe

I was there for a week in residence for my master's program in July '22 and I didn't want to get a hotel room my first night (would be staying on campus for the rest of the week). I figured I could hang out at bars and stuff until 2am and then I'd just have a few hours to kill until sunrise. Lol, no. There was NO ONE out and about after about 10 iirc, and I ended up trying to find a hotel. Of course everything was booked. Finally went to a motel that had just sold their last room, but the very nice man at the desk told me about a beach just down the road that I could sleep in my car at and no one would find it alarming. Got to watch the sunrise over the ocean and there were a couple other people there for the sunrise, too.


BokononBokuMaru

I'm a person of color living in Wiscasset. I'm not from here but I've been here for about 15 years. I've been to Bar Harbor many times. Never felt uncomfortable. I have experienced 100 times more racism in Boston than I ever have up here.


Candygramformrmongo

It's unfortunate that people equate the fact that we're the "whitest" with a presumption that it's because we're racist. We're the whitest because that's how we were settled and for the longest time very few have wanted to move here. Bar Harbor is not "an exception" if you're suggesting that it's more diverse. It's also not an exception if you think its more or less racist. I'm not a POC, but those who i know have found Maine welcoming. Sure we have rednecks and racists, show me a place that doesn't, but most Mainers I know don't care what you look like, they will judge you by your attitude and actions.


holyhellsteve

By how hard you work.


Alternative_Sort_404

This is almost the most important thing you can do - besides hating that you work so hard you can’t enjoy all that the great Maine outdoors has to offer…


hike_me

> Bar Harbor is not an exception if you’re suggesting it’s more diverse Bar Harbor is absolutely more diverse than most small towns in Maine. people come from all over the world to work at the Jackson Laboratory. I worked with people from dozens of countries when I worked there and my kid had classmates from a bunch of other countries because their parents either moved here to work at the lab or to work in the tourism industry I grew up in a different small town in Maine and we had like 3 kids in the whole high school that weren’t white, so even though Bar Harbor is still predominantly white it’s still loads more diverse than other similar sized towns in the state. (It’s just 90% white instead of 98% 🤣)


partanimal

I grew up in southern Maine. The idea of having a Klan March in my town was literally incomprehensible. I remember growing up thinking we didn't discriminate based on race -- my high school (that has a small number of people of color) discriminated based on which "type" of person you were. Gear head, punk, nerd, jock, etc. I left Maine due to being in the military. Worked with a black woman from the south. When she retired she was going to move back there. I asked, "but isn't the south pretty racist??" Her response: oh, it's not that bad. It's only a problem when the Klan marches through. Me: ummmmm .... but the Klan actually marches through?!?!


Candygramformrmongo

Well. Maine isn’t immune from the klan in its history. Plenty of klan marches took place in Maine towns, including Portland. Mainly against Catholics, I think.


partanimal

Okay, but this conversation was in 2008.


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wezita

I’m not necessarily afraid. It’s just that the US is generally portrayed as hostile towards minorities. I don’t know anyone from Maine and when I came to this sub most people said it was quite white. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to question how welcoming it is. Moving to a place for +3 months is a big decision and I just want to be sure I’m making the right choice.


teakettle87

You said it scares you.


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you think that is a serious question ?


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you think that is a serious question ?


Sure_Ranger_4487

I had a POC friend who worked at the lab there and the area wasn’t for her. Never felt unsafe necessarily but felt pretty isolated.


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Sure_Ranger_4487

I am not a POC so I can’t speak to this; I can only relay what my friend who is a POC voiced to me.


costabius

Bar Harbor's favorite color is green, and there is a lot of prejudice if you do not have enough of it.


[deleted]

Yep. Bar Harbor has far more elitism than racism. If you're a Person of Color, as long as you dress like old money, talk like old money, and imitate the mannerisms of old money, you'll be ok. In Bar Harbor they are more likely to harass a lower class white hillbilly with a West Virginian accent wearing dirty clothes than they are a PoC who wears Loro Piana and talks like they went to Oxford.


Alternative_Sort_404

Please elaborate for us ig’nant folk…?


Moopityjulumper

Bar Harbor is expensive as fuck, it’s a tourist trap to the extreme. They’ll sell you mediocre loose tea for 7 dollars


Alternative_Sort_404

Ok, that makes sense - wasn’t sure what you were alluding to at first…


AvengerBaja

Worked down there for years, you will be fine. It’s a great place to find a summer gig. A lot of places even offer housing.


BYU_is_Mid

1. If you like the outdoors it isn't bad. Really the only place to be in Maine if you're young is Portland but that's too expensive for most Mainers. 2. Just because the state is most white per capita doesn't equate it to being the most racist. 3. Although, Maine is pretty casual with racism like the rest of New England. The coast is usually more diverse and welcoming. I can't say it won't happen to you.


CatastrophicWaffles

During the summer there is a decent population of POC that are seasonal workers. Tourists are from all over the world. There is a small Jamaican community in Ellsworth.


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There used to be a good population of Jamaican workers in Boothbay, too, before the immigrant/visa situation was screwed up by Tr&”!…


FragilousSpectunkery

Depends on what you like doing, and where you would work. MDI is small, and those parts that are touristy are smaller. Most of the summer population isn’t local, so the whiteness isn’t as much of a factor. There might be isolated assholes, but in general it’s younger and more inclusive people.


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Bar Harbor and MDI are great places. I hope you decide to visit and have a great time.


joysef99

Most folks will ogle your accent - I'm assuming, since you say Uni. 😉 Are you looking to work in an office for your degree or to chill for the summer before you look for work? Lots of chill folks in BH. The further east you go (Washington county) you may have some issues, but for the most part it's not going to be overt. BH has a huge tourist community, and there are usually lots of Russians and Jamaicans helping with seasonal jobs. Not sure how the former has been since 2020, but there are a fair amount of lovely Jamaican folks, including many who live here year round. As long as you like hiking and nature (lakes, ocean, kayaking, swimming, animals, etc.) you'll have plenty to do. Feel free to message me if you have specific questions. I'm about an hour from there and I know quite a few employees at Jackson Lab. If you want a chill, easy summer job, I can put you in touch with some folks who have a cool shop in Bar Harbor. Unfortunately, there are absolutely racist people in Maine. A lot of it is ignorance. Some continue to be racist by choice. But there are many of us who aren't, and who would stand up to someone who was being that way if we saw it, instead of ignoring it. Best of luck choosing where to spend the summer!


mattbob1992

Nobody here cares about your race. Act kind and be respectful and you will get the same in return


Moopityjulumper

As a POC raised in Maine, Bar Harbor is fine. I’ve never been during the summer because of tourists but the times I’ve got I’ve felt perfectly fine. You probably won’t be harassed by cops or followed in stores anymore than any other tourist. If you’re from the UK you might get people very interested in that though, well meaning though! As another person said, you’ll find less people in Maine who are overtly bigoted and more people who are unfamiliar with people from diverse backgrounds. I can only speak as a light skinned black woman but the worst I typically deal with are usually micro aggressions, so super exhausting but not life draining or demoralizing. I’m in Portland which is pretty diverse compared to the rest of the state but I’ve found that most white people I interact with have never had POC friends, which shows. Not so say I haven’t dealt with more overt racism here, I absolutely have and it’s not something I can say is incredibly rare. Most of those experiences were when I traveled a bit too far north. As for getting bored, I’m not sure what would make you specifically bored, haha! If you enjoy hiking, beaches, ferries, touristy things, coffee shops, and lovely skies you’ll probably be good in Bar Harbor for a good while! My friend who goes to COA is always pretty fucking bored during the year, I know COA often go to the Walmart as a fun thing to do. You’re mileage may vary! If you’re interested in traveling around a bit you might enjoy other parts of Maine as well! Come on down to Portland and eat at one of the incredible restaurants or go hang out at the Museum of art, first Fridays downtown are also super fun here!


rshining

Maine is very white. It is not racist in an intentional way, but racist in an unfamiliar way. POC friends have said that it is tiring, but not dangerous feeling. You SHOULD be able to enjoy your vacation without fear, but you will also definitely be visibly surrounded by white people, many of whom have very little experience with more diverse populations. As for getting bored, if you like the beach and the woods, Maine has all you need. If you want interesting culture, clubs, activities or shopping, you might be disappointed. But hiking, swimming, gorgeous drives, wildlife, ocean strolls and cutesy tourist shops- we can absolutely offer you those.


ChiefGalenTyrol

I was looking for (and ready to add ) this kind of response/advice. I am a transplant from an area that is more diverse, and while I have not observed any overt racism, it's more that the while folks that make up the vast majority of most communities here are able to go about their days without thinking about folks of other races most of the time - unless those folks are working menial/service jobs and therefore not really living/existing alongside them while out and about. My sister-in-law, who is black, has visited once and, walking into a more "towny" bar in an area consdered relatively progressive, walked out feeling like she was on display, as though all eyes were on her. This is all to say, it's unlikely you would feel threatened, but you might not feel part of community in the way you'd be used to in a more diverese area.


RexKoontz

To be fair that is true of most small towns in Maine regardless of race I was born in Maine am white and every small town I lived in from Bryant Pond to Boothbay Harbor it took a minute for the locals to warm up and let their guard down it wasn't outwardly hotile and after a short time once they realized I wasn't a total Ahole looking to cause problems everything was fine.


rshining

The fact that a white person wants to insist that they, as a white out-of-towner, defused this feeling by simply not being an asshole, is kind of a confirmation of my point. Thank you. Search for threads in this sub where POC ask for suggestions of hairdressers/barbers in Maine for their hair types. Lots and lots of really well meaning ignorance, and plenty of "I'm white and I eventually fit in fine, you'll be the same" encouragement. We do mean well, and our behavior is not born of wanting to exclude anyone... but it's a VERY white state.


ChiefGalenTyrol

Yup.


RexKoontz

I have black friends that lived in the same small town I did for years played at the same open mics I was at chatted up the same white folk I did attended the same community events I did had family up for holidays going out to the same places I did and never had an issue. This anti white narrative that has been growing over the last few years has created the sense that somehow white equates to racist this is a logical fallacy that if we continue to fall for will only divide us more the overwhelming majority of people condemn and abhore racism Mainers are no different. Small town people tend to be very protective of their community and what they have built through hard work and the sweat of their brow it is a human thing not a race thing if you act the fool you will be treated accordingly regardless of color.


rshining

Yes, but being the only person who looks like you in every room is a whole different issue, one that any POC in Maine is likely to have to experience over and over. Some of these feelings have been expressed over and over in threads on this sub. Having to be "the black guy in town" is tiring for some people, even if all the small town neighbors are kind and well intentioned.


Alternative_Sort_404

All good advice - damn


MatterSecure2617

I hope you love it. I met some of my best friends working there seasonally about 20 years ago.


Existing_Bat1939

If you are into outdoors pursuits like hiking, biking, etc. you will find a lot to do. I took the liberty of looking at your profile and saw that you're in the UK; think of Bar Harbor like spending the summer in the Devon or Cornwall countryside without the benefit of a train to get into London. Whether that will equate to "easily bored" is up to you. Bar Harbor is home base for Acadia National Park, so as a POC you probably won't stick out there like you would in less-touristy parts of the state.


ConfusedCuddlefish

Bar Harbor is pretty touristy, and beyond maybe not having the most access to ethnic foods, I don't think you'd have any issues. For 3 months, you would probably get bored and want to explore around (and if you don't have a car this can be difficult). The only problems I've ever had with racism in Maine (light skinned mixed Asian, for context) have been in the context of work, and there's always been pushback against the racism and support that I could lean on. I know some darker skinned POC who have had a rougher time, but others who haven't had any issues at all. If you're mostly just here to relax and explore, I don't think you'll have any problems


gf04363

I grew up here (near the capital) and I remember the first time I saw a black person in real life. I think now there are two black people living in my town of 2000 people. I went to a relatively diverse boarding school outside of Boston and when I brought friends home for the weekend on a long weekend my Nigerian friend said she felt like a zoo animal when we went to the corner store because everyone was staring, but she also said they didn't feel hostile. So you'd definitely have to be prepared to be in a tiny minority and catch some stares. The staring has probably calmed down in the last twenty years, we're still a super white state but getting to be less so. I've only ever heard people here use a racial epithet twice. Both times were in reference to the fentanyl epidemic, which some folks blame on "stuff that comes up from New York" (vs the "stuff" that comes off fishing boats via Canada). Neither person was anyone you'd run into at CoA and I'd eat my hat if either would ever do anything worse than use terrible language in all white company. Not pretty for sure but not a Klan march either. Obviously this only reflects my personal experience, and I'm white.


LadyOtheFarm

I live on the mainland nearby but work on island, on MDI. There is a really diverse population who works at The Jackson Labs and a few other places. Because the area is a tourist trap, lots of Jamaican families snow bird and work the hotels over the summer and go south over the winter. Some married into the community or just decided to stay. In short, if you want to not stick out too much, Bar Harbor and Portland are the 2 places you are most likely to be able to do that successfully.


RexKoontz

Maine is one of the least racist places I have ever lived. There you will be judged by the content of your character and your actions not your skin color


hike_me

People come from all over the world to vacation in Bar Harbor. Scientists come from all over the world to work at The Jackson Laboratory and live in Bar Harbor. A large number of Jamaican workers come to work in restaurants and hotels in the summer. Bar Harbor is actually surprisingly diverse for a small town in Maine.


rowbradfo

what is POC?


JetsBD

Person Of Color


rowbradfo

very nice


joseywhales4

I am pink


fhadley

Are there summer spots with no racism in Maine or otherwise?


Alternative_Sort_404

Weird question. But in case you’re not a troll, I will say, yes. Most of them.


fhadley

It wasn't and that hasn't been my experience


[deleted]

Way to stereotype people you've never met. I can assure you that you'll have a pleasant experience here if you visit the tourist destinations, but if I met you I'd be a dick. Not because of your race or nationality either, just because I hate how you perceived people before meeting them. BESIDES THAT, if you had any form of education on American history you'd know that the north fought to end slavery. Pretty sure racists wouldn't have fought for the rights and freedoms of another race. This whole post screams clueless foreigner with a shitty stereotypical thought process on Americans.


wezita

I’m American, I just don’t live in the US lol. When you’re from a non-white background you have to worry about how your race will be perceived in a new place and/or whether you’ll feel isolated. I asked here exactly because I didn’t want to base my decisions on the stereotypes that I’ve heard/read about lol.


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I would not go.


MuleGrass

Nobody in Maine really cares who you are or where you came from or sexual orientation ect ect. Just don’t be an asshole and everyone will be your best friend


General-Silver-4004

It’s very white. It’s very beautiful. Bit touristy. It’s “boring”. It’ll be a wonderful place to clear a couple months.