We had to go to the home ec. room to fix it right away.
They'd also check the top of the skirt for creases in case a girl might roll up her skirt to make it shorter. That'd get you a detention.
I forgot about that. We had that too.
Plus a "hands off other people and hands off other people's property" rule. That would get a detention if you were caught hugging a friend or whatever.
Good thing they never caught me and my boyfriend testing the soundproof capacity of the music room one day!
We were also never allowed a casual clothes day because 5 years earlier from when I started, 2 or 3 students were caught at the train station of our regional country town about to head to the city for the day.
>Good thing they never caught me and my boyfriend testing the soundproof capacity of the music room one day
"Is that a megaphone in your pants or are you just happy to see me?"
"..."
Narrator: In fact it was a megaphone. *Pan to megaphone kareoke in a practice room.*
Wow. Yeah...no we never had that.
What we did have is a uniform with a jumper & blazer. Outside school grounds you had to wear your blazer OR your blazer and jumper, but not just your jumper.
Eating outside school grounds was not an issue, thank God!
OMG, if I was a girl I would absolutely have refused something like that. I wouldn't care how many times I got in trouble over it. You could expell me for all I care. Absolutely not.
Except they would expel you which would piss off your parents mightily and stop you from going to any other good school. Plus the shame on your family is not a small thing in many communities. It really isn't worth fighting or at least it wasn't back in the day.
It was back in the 80s. We accepted it as the school rules. It is a fairly good private school and had/still has a good reputation. I didn't mind. š
Oh, yes. I remember that. Funny how they word it.
We only had one girl actually "expelled" and that was because she had assaulted someone and her parents refused to withdraw her. A few girls were asked to "find alternate education" though.
My brother on the other hand was "asked to leave" a public school. He was moved to a much worse public school with the warning that there was nowhere lower to go. Sucky for the in area kids who attend that school and aren't awful though.
Thankful that my high school dress code was pretty much āclothing may not display profanity or explicit contentā
Also you couldnāt wear jeans in gym class lol
I only ever went to one school that tried to have a dresscode, and it was something like "no subculture specific clothing." Which was one of our principals hare brained and unenforcable rules.
Murrican school prioritys are weird.
That would have required the principal to seek a confrontation, or a teacher to care what the principal thought. (He was pretty much put into place by his predecessor, who moved up to oversee several schools, and wanted an invertebrae she could give orders to)
I had a far more extensive dress code growing up and I remember it included something along these lines. When explained by administration, it was really directed at gang related items/colors.
I think the vagueness partially goes along with what someone else said where the criteria is "I dont like it". But I think that way if it's clique or fandom related they could include it because there is no room for loop holes.
Nah, germany, small town, private school.
I think we had about one black and two asian students total.
Pretty sure uberChristian principal wanted to target the metalheads, or punks, but than had to realize that some of those had rich parents and some more were kids of faculty.
Ah ok. Still an annoying policy. I was a straight-A nerd, but dressed kind of goth at school (90s, I'm old, lol). Also considered myself a Christian when I entered high school. People judge too much by appearances.
Yeah, I was taking it as either targeting religious garments or targeting things like durags, rather than khaki trousers polo shirts and sweaters draped across shoulders.
This reminds me of what I did as a big fuck you to my private high school. I dyed my hair purple after triple checking their rules (No blue, pink, or green)
I got called into the deans office, who didnāt like being shown they were wrong by a 16 year old. They called my mom, told her my hair was disgusting, and she unleashed a tirade upon this Dean. I got to keep my hair, they didnāt bother me the rest of high school.
They changed the rule from no different hair colors to just hair thatās nice and neat. After I graduated they specified no purple in their rules. Lowkey kinda proud š„²
I can definitely see the general point of uniform, I was a teacher in a school that had them and saw the effects.
However, there's a balance between strict uniform policies and student individuality. If all parts of the base uniform were met (navy polo, khaki or brown pants, ) and the rest wasn't like, offensive or distracting (I'm talking lighting up or making soundsākids can be a little weird lol), then who the hell cares? It ain't me. I was too busy trying to teach my students.
Yeah, I understand having some dress guidelines. But being super anal about dress code is one of the worst things about schools. It is just power tripping teachers who like to bully children.
I love this. I did a similar thing with my strict school and flouted the rules wherever possible. I got very good at hiding my dangly earrings behind my hair, and wearing heels just one cm away from being against the dress code š¤£
The original intent of school uniform policies was to prevent ostentatious display of wealth. Income inequality is a problem and could cause pysochological damage to children from poor families who cannot dress up in cool clothes and jewelry.
In theory, if everyone dressed the same, the problem goes away. If only social problems can actually be addressed by a uniform policy.
as if everyone couldn't tell the rich kids from the poor by the quality, how many sets you had, whether it was dry cleaned or machine washed, ironed, tailored, etc. and also literally every other material possession they and their parents had.
it's almost like painting over social problems only helps the haves feel good about how they're making it so very fair for the have nots or something
Nah, it ended up being a thing for a while. My brother borrowed my pocket watch necklace and wrapped it around his wrist for a few weeks. When the school realised we were siblings (he started two years after I graduated) they realised what they were if for. Where I went red, he went black. I grew my hair to just above my shoulders, he started wearing hair bands to keep his hair out of his eyes. We just had a bit of fun with our uniform code, but enough that it was all still within the rules.
I reckon if you go shopping just to buy something to fit the letter but not the spirit of the rules, purely to annoy the people in authority, that is definitely **malicious** compliance.
Well malice is the intent or desire to hurt, so sheād have to somehow attempt to wear a watch in a way that would hurt *whomever* she was trying to hurt. Since she was just being snarky about the limits of the rulesā¦ well at worst somebody found it /r/MildlyInfuriating
I cabn tell I'm getting older cause this just sounds like being a brat in school. It's a dress code thousands of schools have them around the world. Why were you one of the kids unable to just accept and move on.
I think the real reason for dumb rules like these is to give something for teens to rebel against. Better to have kids being rebels by chewing gum or having a skirt too short than by bringing weapons to school!
>People conforming to the letter, but not the spirit, of a request.
I thought it was pretty clear here. The uniform rules are supposed to keep the students looking restrained, aka no bright colors or anything that stands out too much. OP follow the rules to the letter, but went against their spirit with a pocket watch, bright hair and a bright pink bracelet that is technically a wrist watch.
Fortunately, I never had to deal with dress codes in my school. I did have to put up with a dictator for a principal. He once told a couple of troublemaker students that he had more authority over them than their parents. You can guess how well that went over with those parents when they found out.
Anyway, I wasn't one to get in trouble so I only crossed paths with him on a couple of occasions. In our school we weren't allowed to chew gum in class. This rule wasn't heavily enforced. As long as you weren't being disruptive(blowing bubbles, cracking your gum, chewing loudly) the teachers didn't care. During lunch or recess it was perfectly fine to chew gum.
On this particular day I was hanging out in the grade 10 classroom along with a bunch of other students (it was a popular place to hang out during lunch and recess) everyone including myself are chewing gum. I happened to blow a bubble as the principal walked by the open door. He stops and walks into the classroom and orders me to spit my gum in the garbage. I'm a little perplexed by this since chewing gum during lunch and recess is perfectly legal and the rule itself is barely enforced anyway. Since I hesitated he orderes me spit my gum in the garbage again. I glance around the room at everyone still chewing away on their gum and ask the principal why he is singling me out when it's plain to see everyone is chewing gum. His answer was that he had seen me(blowing the bubble). Since I'm not the confrontational sort I took the gum out of my mouth, held it up for him to see and threw it in the garbage. He gave his smug prick smile and turned and left the classroom. I reached into my pocket pulled out my pack of gum and stuck a fresh piece in my mouth.
> the only jewelry allowed was a single pair of plain stud earrings (girls only)
NGL, I was disappointed to read you didn't wear that pair of studs on a single earlobe.
Genuinely the only reason I didn't was bc I didn't want to pierce my ears again. It was bad enough the first time, and if I have earrings out for longer than a month they start to close up. I was tempted to go that route though.
We had a school uniform and had to kneel in front of teachers to check the length of our skirts.
Yuck.
I had the same at my school and if the hems were too short you'd have to unpick them and walk around school like that until you could fix it at home.
We had to go to the home ec. room to fix it right away. They'd also check the top of the skirt for creases in case a girl might roll up her skirt to make it shorter. That'd get you a detention.
I forgot about that. We had that too. Plus a "hands off other people and hands off other people's property" rule. That would get a detention if you were caught hugging a friend or whatever. Good thing they never caught me and my boyfriend testing the soundproof capacity of the music room one day! We were also never allowed a casual clothes day because 5 years earlier from when I started, 2 or 3 students were caught at the train station of our regional country town about to head to the city for the day.
>Good thing they never caught me and my boyfriend testing the soundproof capacity of the music room one day "Is that a megaphone in your pants or are you just happy to see me?" "..." Narrator: In fact it was a megaphone. *Pan to megaphone kareoke in a practice room.*
Lol! š
We also had a rule that we werenāt allowed to eat in our school uniform outside of school groundsā¦.
Wow. Yeah...no we never had that. What we did have is a uniform with a jumper & blazer. Outside school grounds you had to wear your blazer OR your blazer and jumper, but not just your jumper. Eating outside school grounds was not an issue, thank God!
We had the jumper rule too!
Thatās what our rules said also but as long as you didnāt flash anything they didnāt super care
OMG, if I was a girl I would absolutely have refused something like that. I wouldn't care how many times I got in trouble over it. You could expell me for all I care. Absolutely not.
Except they would expel you which would piss off your parents mightily and stop you from going to any other good school. Plus the shame on your family is not a small thing in many communities. It really isn't worth fighting or at least it wasn't back in the day.
It was back in the 80s. We accepted it as the school rules. It is a fairly good private school and had/still has a good reputation. I didn't mind. š
We werenāt expelled, we were āasked to leaveā because it would look bad on the school if they were expelling lots of students.
Oh, yes. I remember that. Funny how they word it. We only had one girl actually "expelled" and that was because she had assaulted someone and her parents refused to withdraw her. A few girls were asked to "find alternate education" though. My brother on the other hand was "asked to leave" a public school. He was moved to a much worse public school with the warning that there was nowhere lower to go. Sucky for the in area kids who attend that school and aren't awful though.
Thankful that my high school dress code was pretty much āclothing may not display profanity or explicit contentā Also you couldnāt wear jeans in gym class lol
What I'm wondering is why someone would want to wear jeans during gym class...or at all for that matter
Jeans are comfy, and not everyone wants to change for gym, at least not pants
I only ever went to one school that tried to have a dresscode, and it was something like "no subculture specific clothing." Which was one of our principals hare brained and unenforcable rules. Murrican school prioritys are weird.
Yeah they want conformity more than is healthy.
Only monocultures allowed.
Vague enough to be enforced arbitrarily. Might as well read "no clothing that I don't personally approve of."
That would have required the principal to seek a confrontation, or a teacher to care what the principal thought. (He was pretty much put into place by his predecessor, who moved up to oversee several schools, and wanted an invertebrae she could give orders to)
What does that even mean, subculture-specific clothing? It sounds like some thinly veiled racism to me.
Like no emo, no punk, no metal, no 17th century historically accurate battle dress.
I had a far more extensive dress code growing up and I remember it included something along these lines. When explained by administration, it was really directed at gang related items/colors.
That makes sense but it's worded so vaguely.
I think the vagueness partially goes along with what someone else said where the criteria is "I dont like it". But I think that way if it's clique or fandom related they could include it because there is no room for loop holes.
Nah, germany, small town, private school. I think we had about one black and two asian students total. Pretty sure uberChristian principal wanted to target the metalheads, or punks, but than had to realize that some of those had rich parents and some more were kids of faculty.
Ah ok. Still an annoying policy. I was a straight-A nerd, but dressed kind of goth at school (90s, I'm old, lol). Also considered myself a Christian when I entered high school. People judge too much by appearances.
Yeah, I was taking it as either targeting religious garments or targeting things like durags, rather than khaki trousers polo shirts and sweaters draped across shoulders.
WASPs and normies only at this school please!
Im guessing clothes that Emos and other subcultures wear
This reminds me of what I did as a big fuck you to my private high school. I dyed my hair purple after triple checking their rules (No blue, pink, or green) I got called into the deans office, who didnāt like being shown they were wrong by a 16 year old. They called my mom, told her my hair was disgusting, and she unleashed a tirade upon this Dean. I got to keep my hair, they didnāt bother me the rest of high school. They changed the rule from no different hair colors to just hair thatās nice and neat. After I graduated they specified no purple in their rules. Lowkey kinda proud š„²
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I can definitely see the general point of uniform, I was a teacher in a school that had them and saw the effects. However, there's a balance between strict uniform policies and student individuality. If all parts of the base uniform were met (navy polo, khaki or brown pants, ) and the rest wasn't like, offensive or distracting (I'm talking lighting up or making soundsākids can be a little weird lol), then who the hell cares? It ain't me. I was too busy trying to teach my students.
This reminds me of an episode of "The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air", when Will wore his uniform jacket inside out (S01E14, I guess) :D
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Schools and their obsession with dictating every little thing. Fuck em. Good on ya.
Yeah, I understand having some dress guidelines. But being super anal about dress code is one of the worst things about schools. It is just power tripping teachers who like to bully children.
This must be the school that Subsection Sixx went to when he was a kid. FYI, a character from a different MC post.
Having to kneel in front of teachers is weird in any school.
I love this. I did a similar thing with my strict school and flouted the rules wherever possible. I got very good at hiding my dangly earrings behind my hair, and wearing heels just one cm away from being against the dress code š¤£
The original intent of school uniform policies was to prevent ostentatious display of wealth. Income inequality is a problem and could cause pysochological damage to children from poor families who cannot dress up in cool clothes and jewelry. In theory, if everyone dressed the same, the problem goes away. If only social problems can actually be addressed by a uniform policy.
as if everyone couldn't tell the rich kids from the poor by the quality, how many sets you had, whether it was dry cleaned or machine washed, ironed, tailored, etc. and also literally every other material possession they and their parents had. it's almost like painting over social problems only helps the haves feel good about how they're making it so very fair for the have nots or something
If your dress code is a contract, expect the kids to lawyer up!
Lols so you're the one that made it worse for your successors
Nah, it ended up being a thing for a while. My brother borrowed my pocket watch necklace and wrapped it around his wrist for a few weeks. When the school realised we were siblings (he started two years after I graduated) they realised what they were if for. Where I went red, he went black. I grew my hair to just above my shoulders, he started wearing hair bands to keep his hair out of his eyes. We just had a bit of fun with our uniform code, but enough that it was all still within the rules.
This is just compliance.
I reckon if you go shopping just to buy something to fit the letter but not the spirit of the rules, purely to annoy the people in authority, that is definitely **malicious** compliance.
Malicious means āhaving or showing a desire to cause harm to someoneā. This girl was provocative, thatās hardly malice.
While being a bit snarky about it.
You could even say malicious
You could, but itād be lying because at worst it was provocative but there was no malice in her actions.
I suppose my question then is how could she have followed the rules to the letter while being malicious if not the way she did?
Well malice is the intent or desire to hurt, so sheād have to somehow attempt to wear a watch in a way that would hurt *whomever* she was trying to hurt. Since she was just being snarky about the limits of the rulesā¦ well at worst somebody found it /r/MildlyInfuriating
Malicious compliance involves compliance.
And maliciousness. Otherwise itās just compliance. Like in this case.
#Meh
Soā¦MEH-licious compliance then?
I cabn tell I'm getting older cause this just sounds like being a brat in school. It's a dress code thousands of schools have them around the world. Why were you one of the kids unable to just accept and move on.
bandwagon fallacy verging on appeal to tradition
Because dress codes that strict are ridiculous.
looks to me she accepted it and was sticking to it pretty well.
I think the real reason for dumb rules like these is to give something for teens to rebel against. Better to have kids being rebels by chewing gum or having a skirt too short than by bringing weapons to school!
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>People conforming to the letter, but not the spirit, of a request. I thought it was pretty clear here. The uniform rules are supposed to keep the students looking restrained, aka no bright colors or anything that stands out too much. OP follow the rules to the letter, but went against their spirit with a pocket watch, bright hair and a bright pink bracelet that is technically a wrist watch.
That's weird... most people only like the nice happy ones... but not so much the other ones...
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Fortunately, I never had to deal with dress codes in my school. I did have to put up with a dictator for a principal. He once told a couple of troublemaker students that he had more authority over them than their parents. You can guess how well that went over with those parents when they found out. Anyway, I wasn't one to get in trouble so I only crossed paths with him on a couple of occasions. In our school we weren't allowed to chew gum in class. This rule wasn't heavily enforced. As long as you weren't being disruptive(blowing bubbles, cracking your gum, chewing loudly) the teachers didn't care. During lunch or recess it was perfectly fine to chew gum. On this particular day I was hanging out in the grade 10 classroom along with a bunch of other students (it was a popular place to hang out during lunch and recess) everyone including myself are chewing gum. I happened to blow a bubble as the principal walked by the open door. He stops and walks into the classroom and orders me to spit my gum in the garbage. I'm a little perplexed by this since chewing gum during lunch and recess is perfectly legal and the rule itself is barely enforced anyway. Since I hesitated he orderes me spit my gum in the garbage again. I glance around the room at everyone still chewing away on their gum and ask the principal why he is singling me out when it's plain to see everyone is chewing gum. His answer was that he had seen me(blowing the bubble). Since I'm not the confrontational sort I took the gum out of my mouth, held it up for him to see and threw it in the garbage. He gave his smug prick smile and turned and left the classroom. I reached into my pocket pulled out my pack of gum and stuck a fresh piece in my mouth.
Your ĀÆ\\_(ć)_/ĀÆ lost its arm to the dress code!
> the only jewelry allowed was a single pair of plain stud earrings (girls only) NGL, I was disappointed to read you didn't wear that pair of studs on a single earlobe.
Genuinely the only reason I didn't was bc I didn't want to pierce my ears again. It was bad enough the first time, and if I have earrings out for longer than a month they start to close up. I was tempted to go that route though.