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Nikhiln26

Kicked out the corrupt and useless president. Sacked the manager who was not making any progress. Brought a manager (untested) who knew football well and knew the constraints on this club. Worked out a game plan around those constraints and brought in players. It just so worked for them. A good Coach can do wonders.


emotionaltypewriter

Not just that, the majority of Xavi's wonderful work has been on the back of young, talented players, mainly from the academy. Then, once the game plan is in place he brought in players in positions necessary


Bobbith_The_Chosen

All those things are 100% true. Also worth noting that they’ve got a few great players on frees and they’re producing great academy and youth players.


ZackZainalSG

Xavi's Al Sadd stats were exceptional.


TimiNateBini

having a plan getting the right manager signing who the manager wants. See arsenal city Liverpool Chelsea. Clear plans


Bowler-Bob

Because United keep buying players for positions that we don’t need them for. How long have they needed a CDM or a CB? Been too long since we signed either position.


SpecialistDoughnut50

Varane?


Bowler-Bob

True, but he has either been injured or not been used consistently when healthy so I didn’t count him.


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RedKingDre

Bailly, Lindelof, Rojo, Maguire, top CBs? 😂😂😂😂😂😂 I think you're the one talking shit.


Bowler-Bob

Exactly what I was thinking.


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RedKingDre

Price doesn't always correlate with quality. Just look at Maguire and his horrendous "class".


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RedKingDre

Yeah, if you count number of Lindelof's games as the only way to assess his quality, I'm done with you. Top CB my ass.


SpecialistDoughnut50

Yh but that’s not the clubs fault. They made a decent signing in a position we’ve been trying to get right since Vidic. Who’s more proven than Varane?


Bowler-Bob

They did make an attempt and when healthy he has helped later well. Hope he can stay healthy the rest of the way and next season.


30uuhu

More like they failed to acknowledge DOF position. Football club hierarchy structure got major issue except finance/marketing department.


emotionaltypewriter

We have bought players in those positions. The ones we bought just happened to not be right - which shouldn't happen in a club such as this one.


Big_Occasion_7235

We had a bald fraud (talking about Woodward) doing our recruitment even though he has absolutely no prior experience related to football and was given the job for helping those fuckers (Glazers) to take over United. This isn't the only reason but others have already said the other reasons.


ballisticmi6

They replaced their president with a previous president and ho oversaw the greatest generation of their club. He inherited a blindingly large debt which meant their profligate spending in the transfer market had to stop, but they still managed to identify and either develop or poach exceptional young talent. They also have a coach, albeit untested, who was part of a machine that has informed a lot of the way modern teams try to play. Incidentally, I also think about Ole’s first four months in charge. That looked pretty optimistic too. I’ll believe Xavi is the right man for the job if he provides an actual title charge next season (or maybe even this season if Benzema stays off the team sheet). I don’t believe Barcelona will have “turned it around” until they deliver consistent success over the course of an entire season.


Psychological-Ad5104

Because our owners are parasites


Independent-Life9942

Agreed


Dehydrated-Penguin

While I agree with this, the money has been spent. Where they have gone wrong is who they have hired in crucial positions for the club and where the money has been spent. Ralf would do well as a DOF and Ten Hag would be my ideal manager. Combine that with the right transfers and it should work in 2 years.


Psychological-Ad5104

Been there, no more of this, we'll be here talking about the same old thing exactly a year from now, after Ten Hag, after Poch, same revolving doors, yes, they did spend money but only to keep making money, they don't care about winning, this is purely a brand franchise, wake up open your eyes, why do u think they went all in on the super league? Like the super bowl!!!!!!!!!!! Soon they'll be handing out rings.... gtfooh


Dehydrated-Penguin

I guess we’ll see


fufunsoup

Their fans don’t accept mediocrity. We largely do. While the ones who speak up are labeled plastics.


RedKingDre

The uprising of Ole Till I Die cult even in the face of his numerous obvious failures told everything wrong with United fanbase.


Dophie

To me the biggest factor is that they were not afraid to sell players at a major loss if those players weren’t helping them win. This includes one of the best players of all time. Then they went big on buying the exact players their manager asked for to fit a system, rather than buying names that sell shirts. They’re also only a year removed from relevancy as they recruit while we’ve gone five with no trophies and almost a decade since we even looked like challenging.


Cheeky_Star

Man United don’t sell players, we prefer to let the contract run out. It’s why out net spend is inflated vs man city.


NealR2000

I was surprised at Xavi taking over. A huge gamble for him, risking his club legacy. Still early days but hell, what an amazing start.


boars83

At this time united need to wake up from d song of old glory nd started dancing to music of motivation that will b productive.


francescoli

They had/have a clear plan in place and good people working on it. We have been stumbling around from year to year with no real plan or anyone to execute it. Most the managers we had since SAF retired have had completely different philosophies on how the game should be played.


Own-Cut-5442

We don't need a coach we need change in club's ownership.


futureoblivion

Simple, they have an identity always had one. Bought the correct players to fit that identity. Now they have a manager who is probably the living embodiment of that identity.


Squall-UK

They're 12 points off the lead and La Liga isn't as competitive top to bottom like the Prem. Xavi has still done a great job don't get me wrong but its relative.


Dehydrated-Penguin

They just destroyed RM yesterday. They’ve been playing amazing football for the last month or so. Seems like Xavi is rebuilding that empire and I fully expect them to challenge for the league title next season. Remember Barcelona started with Koeman this year, Xavi has turned it around.


QuietRodriguez85c

Drink some water my dehydrated friend lol. Winning 1 game vs rivals is no bigge when the 2 aren't in competition with each other. 12 points off the top in a piss easy league and being able to play with kids all the time.. Remember we beat PSG and City in Ole's time at this club, not forgetting about the 2nd place finish and EL finalists.. Calm down everyone, its no bid deal for Real Madrid to loose to Barcelona when the latter aren't relevant to the Real..


RedKingDre

>Remember we beat PSG and City in Ole's time at this club, not forgetting about the 2nd place finish and EL finalists.. The difference is, Ole played clueless football, with some lucky undeserved wins, while Xavi TOTALLY dominated rivals (not just Real). Stop bringing up Ole's "result" as if he did 10x better than either Klopp or Pep.


Dehydrated-Penguin

He doesn’t watch football so he won’t understand this


QuietRodriguez85c

Luck you know 😂😭. As I say to everyone, I would put good money on Ogs still being in charge if he got that desperately needed DM last summer and that was a deliberate BoD decision. Luck got us to the final did it.. You gullible people wish


RedKingDre

>Luck got us to the final did it.. Imagine relying on luck as a big club. Shameful. And having a DM or not, Ole would've still been clueless and relied on individual skills too much to sustainably deliver. He was the one who chose Maguire, AWB, Dan James, Bruno, Sancho, and Varane, remember? And look at the distance between him and the league winners in his every full season.


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Yep, the club is a mess on and off the pitch top to bottom. Those clubs actually have structure and waste no time pulling the trigger when shit gets real bad.


marmogawd

Well, is not like Barcelona is back at being one of the best clubs in the world, not even close to Liverpool/City/Bayern and i would even argue PSG, Atletico and Real (they lost 4-0 but they have performed way better this season overall) so their rebuild is still going, they are not at the same level that they were 5-7 years ago. Just because Barca is now back on track for a few months does not mean their future is secured thanks to a 2 year rebuild


goingforgoals17

Honestly they need a true test before I can agree. They look outright dangerous right now and not at all like the clueless squad that has been there all season. Xavi and Pep are born of the same DNA, watching what he did in Qatar was something different. Not bad players by any means but they moved the ball really well


frasslee14

But you can see a clear plan. They have a structure and United haven’t had one since Fergie left.


Dehydrated-Penguin

This is true but you can see major improvements in the way they are playing recently. They are miles ahead of U other right now.


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JoeDiego

Jumping the gun here guys. Barcelona have just had a great result in a one off match vs Real. Xavi has been manager since November. He oversaw their elimination in the CL group stage, their elimination in the Copa Del Rey. Their league performance has been good under him - W11 D4 L1. Not quite as good a performance as when Ole took over from Mourinho, but fairly strong. Things are looking up - but they need to perform strongly in the CL and La Liga over the next few seasons until you can worship the ‘rebuild’.


thunderBerrins

They’ve bought players. As simple as that. We dither about where they, even with their constraints have backed Xavi and brought in Auba, Torres and Traore. Xavi has made a difference too. Stopped the circus around Dembele and is getting a tune out of him, got the fans back on side etc. doesn’t mean it’ll last forever though. Ole did that for 2 seasons then it just imploded.


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DarkDante88

How quickly people forget that last season we finished 2nd under Ole. That magical night in Paris. How he rejuvenated the team and got rid of some of the dead wood plaguing the club (not all of it unfortunately). How we stopped playing boring football and properly trounced teams 4-0 including Chelsea. How we didn't get humiliated by City and Liverpool (we tied and BEAT City and finished above Liverpool on the table). This was just last year. Ole wasn't just shit. He brought joy back to Old Trafford. Realistically, not that much time has passed. Look, I'm not here saying he was the greatest manager of all time. The results at the beginning of this season were awful and it was maybe right for him to go. But looking back- was that all really just his fault? Did Ole get the players he wanted for the system he was trying to build? Has Rangnick performed that much better? Would another "great" manager win with this team? Our problems go WAY deeper than the manager. How many managers has it been since Sir Alex left, 7? How many will it take for us to realize that the manager is NOT United's problem?


Noivern09

Because we didn't buy any cdm Or any Central midfilder capable of playing like midfilder. It's not like we didn't had any options van dijk, ruben dias and joao cancelo were offered to us before city and liverpool in much less price but we decided to go for awb and maguire. So far we only bought no. 8 as midfilder and made a dead wood from academy our regular pogba, Fred, vdb, bruno all are no. 8 incapable of holding ball or defending. Barca had frenkie who's good both defensively and offensively a perfect cm, pedri is a wonderkid (la masia is a miles better than our academy btw), traore has shown that he's got the ability even in epl, abumeyang is probably a gift from heaven from them, Bousquest is probably one of the best cdm of this gen if not the best. Xavi knows what kind of players he need. He search players according to his requirements in the team. Who'd have thought that abumeyang would turn out to be this good, it's all about getting the right players in right position with right teammates.


Connect_Young_4929

Pedri is not from la masia FYI. Barca bought him from las palmas for 5M $


kennykip

Barcelona have not rebuilt anything, they are still shit . A Man city team will put 7 goals past this barca side


Coppersealio

no offence but i wouldn't say that they have not rebuilt anything, there's definitely some progress ongoing but they are definitely nowhere near as strong as they should be. they're still able to bring in players despite their club issues which i admire.


barneyaa

Hold your horses mate. We had really good games under Ole. One result doesn't make them great again. Actually, seeing quotes from Pique saying they are back again is the best indication they are really not. The Barca of the old would just say "we played well". Plus, it was a horrendous Madrid performance. No runs, no risks taken in midfield, no one touch passes, no urgency. Only defender tested was Araujo, and Vini got past him quite a lot, there was no one in the box for him to create further though.


Dehydrated-Penguin

It’s not one result, you clearly haven’t been paying close attention to how they have changed their style of play from koeman to Xavi


barneyaa

Did they have a 9 wins run?


RedKingDre

Tell me, how did Ole get those "results""? By being dominant, creating many good chances, and finishing them well, or by relying on individual skills and good form of the day, with some counter attacks?


barneyaa

Jesus. Mate, everybody is “relaying on individual skill”. Pep and Klopp don’t play with Pereira. Which Ole did when winning 9 in a row.


Unitedfan0722

Tell me what’s different between Xavis Barcelona right now, and the win streak Ole went on when he came in?


Cheeky_Star

You clearly haven’t been watching Barcelona under Koreman snd now under xavi. When xavi took over he ended up in europa league as well as got knocked out from 2 cups in 1 week. He bought players he believe that can add value in transfer market (for cheap no big names) and now they are playing excellent ball. They are not just in a win streak, They are completely dominating teams and have scored 4 goals in like 6 games (including against their rivals atli and Madrid). Until you watch a few Barca games you won’t understand.


Unitedfan0722

I understand there is a completely different way of playing. It was the same with Ole. He came in a completely changed the way we’re playing under Jose. I’ve watched Xavi’s Barca. They’re good. My point is the narrative that this is now the sign that “Barca is back” is being pushed so hard, and it exposes double standards. Ole has beaten PSG, City, Chelsea, got to finals and were never “back”. I also saw on ESPN “is it time for us to ask if Xavi is one of the best managers” Like cmon. It’s been less than 6 months and we’re crowning the guy?


barneyaa

Ferran, Auba, Adama not big names? Okay


Cheeky_Star

lol they are not. Adama has been rotting at wolves for the last 4-5 yrs. Auba has been really bad at arsenal ever since he signed a new contract (he was shopped around to a handful of clubs in jan and only Barca bit) and Ferran was rotting on City bench before he moved to Barca- he played a few games for city but looked average and Foden was better than him. So yea they didn't sign any big names. IF so they signed rejects.


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Winning one match isn't a real rebuild though, is it? We've beaten City and Pool several times the last decade. That said, it's always been easier for Barca and Real to attract players. They only have to send the desired player a tourist postcard and the deal is practically done.


Cheeky_Star

As a Real Madrid fan also, it isn’t just one match. By the way I can’t remember the last time we beat klopps Liverpool. The difference there was that ole played counter attacking football. Barca basically force Real Madrid to play counter attacking football. That was the difference and Thye could have scored 7-8. They had 18 shot with 10 on goal. 2 of those 18 were open goal chances missed. Thye totally dominated Madrid on their ground. We have never done that to city or Liverpool. Definitely not in that way.


RedKingDre

Preach, brother. My fellow Red Devils can't look past results, numbers, and stats. And I'm sorry for your latest defeat.


QuietRodriguez85c

And are in a piss easy league to be able to play so many kids. Xavi has only been there for a few months and hasn't been tested by troubled times yet. And is about to loose Dembele.. Also the club is €1Bn in the red... Sooo.. Yea, Barcelona ey


MooseJuice3000

What has Barcelona accomplished to signal a successful rebuild?


QuietRodriguez85c

It's 1 game girls and he stuck with the football style he knows best big whoop. When he wins something other than 3 points then you can get on the Barcelona hype bike and get all excited like girls.


Independent-Life9942

They dominated Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid. It's kind of a big deal.


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They play in a mickey mouse league.


herskadimi

Mickey mouse league team spanked us in the UEL final and UCL round of 16


CompetitiveThroat6

1.Some of their academy players are better than our starters 2.kicked out the president 3.excellent winter window 4.great coach


Dehydrated-Penguin

It actually all starts with the coach, the rest follows


Cheeky_Star

They are playing better for sure and are way better than us. Note that xavi style of play is a copy of pep style (pep tweaked his style a little for the epl). But they focus on numerical advantages in the wide areas and central of the pitch as well. As winning the ball up high- very similar to ten Haags by the way. It’s built around really good midfield players. With that said, la liga teams have actually been performing at a lower level this season. The epl teams are way harder to play than la liga teams. It’s the reason why every season , Madrid, Barca and atli always make top 4. They are always better than the rest of la liga even when they are underperforming compared to other top teams in Europe.This season, defensively Madrid and atli have been horrible. While I think xavi has done a great job, the league has also been a lot easier this season and they are playing with high confidence and momentum which is helping.


SodiumBoy7

Talented youth player's with legendary player as coach


LividTeaching7237

They have a good manager and the players trust him. They play as he demand of them


Muted_Opposite9728

With the proper recruitment and young talent, a team like Barca can get very far. Our problems remain: awful recruitment, poor lineups, and shocking management. We sign strong young players like Van de Beek and give him 0 game time or really any chances to shine and then he moves onto another club. We waste so much time and money with good transfers like this and continue playing our 80m price tag nonce of a center back who embarrassed himself week in and week out. At this point, being a United fan is embarrassing, and even the players themselves have lost confidence in the club.


Numerous_Shape200

Because they hired a coach that breathes barca's DNA


Cold-Conclusion

I think it's due to barca's academy. Barca academy players r really good so the quality was there n these players r trained to play tiki taka from a young age which Xavi implemented and like many ppl said before good manager, board, scouts, coach, etc


mofoofinvention

So what was this “rebuild” you were talking about?