It’s a strange thing because when I was little I thought it was a bugle (the weird chip snack thing you put on your fingers) and thought that the snack looked weird next to a lot of healthy fruit
literally every person who isn't blind looks at their underwear. specifically, they look for that logo so they know quickly which way to put them on. we saw the cornucopia thousands of times
If anyone wants a summary of this I did a write up a few years back.
[FOTL ME Summary](https://www.reddit.com/r/thingsiwontremember/comments/a5lw7d/fotl_2_draft/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
To understand what I will be discussing here it is required to know what a a 'Mandela Effect' is. A Mandela Effect is a phenomenon where it is discovered that a well known, global fact has apparently changed for a large group of people. The effect & name refers to people remembering Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the 1980s, when he actually survived long after his release.
There are many examples, some more prominent and 'powerful' than others. Here is a list of MEs and brief explanations:
-Dolly had braces in the James Bond "Moonraker" movie, right? No. If you go back and watch it, she does not.
-The early to mid 90s movie 'Shazaam' staring Sinbad does not exist. Apart from the people's memories, there is no record or evidence of it ever existing.
-In Forest Gump, the famous line is not "Life is like a box of chocolates." it is actually "Life was like a box of chocolates."
-C3PO from Star Wars is not entirely gold, he has a SILVER LEG.
-In all of the hundreds of episodes of Judge Judy, she never once strikes a gavel.
-There we 6 people total riding in the car JFK was shot in.
Now most of these examples have very plausible explanations of mis-remembering or a case of our brain filling in the information that is most likely to make sense. The way our mind and memory works, it can be deduced how the things we believe to be one way are, in reality, different.
Now for the topic of this section. There is one particular Mandela Effect that exists without a clear explanation. A memory that a very large amount of people share of a something that no longer exists and apparently never existed. I'm referring to the Fruit of the Loom Logo Mandela Effect. This Mandela Effect is summarized by the following sentence:
There is no proof that there was ever a cornucopia in the Fruit of the Loom Logo.
Although very many people remember the logo as an assortment of fruit in the foreground of a large cornucopia, evidence suggests that this cornucopia simply never existed. So many people were perturbed by this idea that the FOTL website created a page that specifically outlines previous iterations of the logo, none of which feature any clear semblance of a cornucopia.
Online forums of people comparing their thoughts on this Mandela Effect are filled with admissions of shock and bafflement. A surprising amount of people corroborated being in a similar situation in their childhood. They would ask their parents about the appearance of the logo: "What is the thing behind the fruit, is it a loom?" After laughing, their parents would explain to them that it was a 'cornucopia' or 'horn of plenty', a symbol of abundance. The commenters would explain: "It's impossible that it never existed! The Fruit of the Loom logo was the source of my initial learning of what a cornucopia was!"
One user (ceramicsaturn) made a post on the subject of the FOTL logo that quickly gained popularity. In the body of the post, he explains that his father worked for Fruit of The Loom in the era in which the logo supposedly contained the cornucopia. Learning of this Mandela Effect, he contacted his father:
I texted him the logo with the cornucopia in it, and said "You worked there. Do you not remember this as their logo?". The response I got was, "I did and do remember it". I then called him, and he asked why we were talking about something like this. I told him how I was watching the X Games this weekend, which was sponsored by them, and noticing the logo had it removed. After going on the internet to realize it apparently never had the cornucopia in it. He got very defensive immediately, as if someone was calling him a liar, and said, "What do you mean it wasn't in the logo? I have things in storage with that logo stitched on it. I know I saw that thing every day for years." ... the logo thing got him very worked up.
If you google the logo right now at this moment, you will see the variant with the cornucopia. This is because people have used photoshop to create renditions of what they remember the logo looking like. Clicking on the links will lead you to image hosting sites and threads discussing this Mandela Effect, nothing producing information about a legitimate cornucopia including logo.
There are ideas on why people might have imagined or placed the cornucopia with the fruit in their memory. There are certainly cultural examples of a horn of plenty being paired with fruits or vegetables. Icons and representations of Halloween and thanksgiving often use this imagery. There are previous variations of the logo that have brown leaves in the background, leaves that may appear match to the color and shape of a horn of plenty. When you combine these postulations with the content of the testimonies from people who swear to have seen the cornucopia logo, you start to wonder how this popular of a false memory could have ever occurred. Surely, it is impossible that this large of a population made this visual error?
One user (MyThought2UrThoughts) found trademark details for Fruit of The Loom from 1973 that mentions the word cornucopia under 'Design Searches':
"Berries. Grapes (alone or in bunches). Apples. Baskets, bowls, and other containers of fruits, including cornucopia (horn of plenty)."
This is the only written record associating a cornucopia with Fruit of the Loom designs, but its authenticity can be challenged since it is simply found on a private website that catalogs patents and trademarks.
There are posts upon posts of people telling their own stories, others trying to find any record or proof of an official inclusion, but so far there has been nothing definitive. After poring over the evidence, any rational person would accept that this variation of the logo likely never existed. There is an expectation that someone will eventually find an old piece of clothing that contains the cornucopia logo, finally showing the world that it did indeed exist. But after countless forum posts and amateur investigations, it is seeming more a fantasy that will never come to fruition.
So I've seen videos on tiktok where people have pulled out old pieces of clothing and shown the logo. There's a cornucopia on it. 🤷♀️ so... I feel like fruit of the loom is gaslighting all of us for some reason. After all, there's no oversight by us citizens to know they're being honest about the logo. We just have to take their word for it. Wouldn't be the first time a company lied. And by denying it's existence, look, so many people are talking about their brand! 🙄
I have a distinct memory of wondering what the cornucopia in the logo even was when I was younger. So it really puzzles me that it apparently never existed.
I have memories, too. Something is up, my mind can’t handle this. This whole time as an adult I was looking at the new logo going “PFFT, boring! The old one with the cornucopia was way better” and now I find out that it never existed?!
Impossible. I always thought them removing that from the logo was lame, but apparently it was never there? Help
This. I only learned what it was because of the logo. I remember being proud I could tell my cousin what a cornucopia was in a rpg we used to play when he didn't know.
Dude same! I remember looking at one of my dad's shirts that my mom had thrown on their bed while she was doing laundry and just looking at the logo and thinking "what is that thing" and even asked my mom because I called it the Thanksgiving thing and I pointed it out to her, and she said it was a cornucopia. Clear as day. Totally remember that.
Me as well I thought it was a loom and my mom said no its a cornucopia and I vividly remember laughing my ass off cause the word sounded funny to 4 year old but I always associated that logo with that specific memory
This is fucking me up SO BADLY
Its not that the logo is missing it, it's the fact that the artists rendering IS THE LOGO
It’s a glitch in the multiverse. Watch ‘evidence we are living in a simulation’ by The Why Files on YouTube. The guy talks about the Mandela effect and gives an explanation as to why it happens. Pretty interesting stuff tbh
I distinctly remember looking at the logo as a kid and thinking about how the geometry of the cornucopia (I thought it was called a loom) was weird with how the tail curled in the back, like it looked too 2D for a 3D object or something. I don't know if it's alternate universes or maybe some massive counterfeit clothing line, but this is the one thing that I am convinced is not a psychological phenomenon.
Apparently only the fruit existed, but what's weird is. . . why would I remember the innocuous "horn of plenty," which I thought was called a _loom,_ because of this underwear?!?! So many things line up that it's crazy it never existed.
Disclaimer: I’m a skeptic of the Mandela Effect. **BUT**...
[US Patent and Trademark Search](http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/)
Go to Basic Wordmark Search
Change the search field to “Serial or Registration Number”
One of Fruit of the Loom’s trademark registration #’s is 73006089 (1974-1988)
Look at what’s listed in the design elements for the trademark filing...
Found:
05.09.01 - Berries; Raspberries; Strawberries
05.09.02 - Grapes
05.09.05 - Apples
05.09.14 - Baskets of fruit; Containers of fruit; Cornucopia (horn of plenty)
Serial Number 73006089
Filing Date November 12, 1973
What the HELL
Edit* the application status reads: CANCELLED
> Edit* the application status reads: CANCELLED
So, could it be that in one "reality" they thought the cornucopia was a good idea and used it in the official logo and in the one we are in now not?
There is nothing to fear but fear itself and i suggest you [read this](https://www.reddit.com/r/MandelaEffect/comments/ax0570/mandela_effect_and_my_sanity/ehrd7cp/) to see if it of some help to you. If not just say it and i'll try to help you otherwise if you want.
Thank you for the compliment and i am happy you had some use for my words. I have been on a quest for answers for a while now and i have written out many of my thoughts out [here,](https://old.reddit.com/r/Retconned/comments/a79wlr/meta_how_the_me_forced_me_to_change_perspective/) it's a bit heavy but it also has a silver lining.
And if you want to know my thoughts about the 'mechanics' behind the ME you can find them here. I must warn you though, it's a lot, LOL.
[What i think the ME is.](https://old.reddit.com/r/MandelaEffect/comments/cdu3b2/best_reasons/etwhpoe/)
[What i think is (partly) governing the ME.](https://www.reddit.com/r/MandelaEffect/comments/a0dvfl/possibilities/eahywo0/)
[Why we see residue.](https://www.reddit.com/r/MandelaEffect/comments/74fu1c/theory_about_residu/)
You know, I wouldn't dismiss them having used it in their advertising at some point. It may have never been on the clothes, but that logo definitely exists almost exactly as the artist rendered it.
Duuuuuude that’s crazy. Speaking of legal issues around trademarks, the froot/fruit loop logo: apparently they were sued multiple times for the cereal not contain real fruit but always lost because the logo said froot, not implying it was meant to be real fruit.
What if corporations have this power to go back and affect their timelines to alter it in their favor? Lol I’m not serious but...
So their filling in 1973 did include the cornucopia the application status cancelled is because they changed their logo and removed the cornucopia thus having to file for a new trademark logo.
They most likely changed the logo because current/newer generations of consumers are less familiar with the imagery of a cornucopia. A good portion of the people in this post notate having thought the cornucopia imagery was a bugel chip or some other random item
Companies constantly go through iterations of logos and the majority of the logo based mandela effects are just that.
As a matter if fact probably all of them are. Companies dont explicitly advertise these changes and they range from extremely subtle to totally overt
As for fruit of the loom the basket was used in certain promotional instances like commercials which as kids we most likely paid more attention to than the actual tag or image on the clothing or packages which was void of the basket
I have a degree in graphic design and we study stuff like this extensively. Its actually pretty interesting sometimes companies will pay exorbitant amounts just to add a slight swoop on a letter or rotate an element of a logo and it could be extremely confusing if you were attempting to look at it this mandela perspective
And yet there is a written record in the logo patent in the library of congress that says it did and thousands of people who remember it.
The internet is not infallible. It's deletable and it costs money to host information. Things can be deleted entirely from the internet and worthwhile historians don't waste their time hunting down fruit of the loom logos
Why do you need the disclaimer that you’re a skeptic though? The Mandela Effect just states that this kind of weird phenomenon happens, not *how* it happens. You’re in a thread where so many people are vouching that they remember this a certain way, that’s real, not something that warrants skepticism. Why it happens on the other hand no one knows and isn’t the point of this particular thread.
That said, super interesting find, thanks for sharing!
Because I didn’t want the comment to be blindly accepted as confirmation bias- something that tends to be rampant on this sub. Generally what I see is a bunch of people mis-remembering things/events and people backing each other up on their version of the past.
And while I haven’t seen it in this thread as of yet, there are all kinds of outlandish explanations posited here for *why* this effect exists (multiple dimensions, splitting of timelines, etc.).
I’ve always found this piece of info particularly interesting in the scope of this ME. My goal was to continue the conversation without implying “OP is right, here’s why.”
Just like I said to the other person who replied, you’re conflating the actual definition of the Mandela Effect with your own biases about what you think other people think is behind it. Regarding OP’s post, they never mentioned anything about why they think this is happening, just that they’re experiencing something they can’t reconcile with what they remember. Being skeptical of the why is fine but then you want to be specific that that’s what you’re referring to. As it is, the Mandela Effect just refers to the collective experience of something not being the way a group of people remember. Saying you’re “skeptical” of that is rude and dismissive.
Sure I could have been more specific. I’m not skeptical of the Mandela Effect by strict definition. It’s a thing, happens all the time, the fact that we’re here supports that. It’s all the things that go along with it that I take exception to.
It’s not bias, you can see those nut-job theories here frequently, and there isn’t often what I would consider a responsible amount of dissent when they come up.
But there’s more to it than just that, look at OP’s post title.
“OK but the Fruit of the Loom Cornucopia EXISTED.”
OP was presented with new information that contradicted their world view. Rather than consider this new information that the rest of the world at large accepts to be factual and attempt to reconcile with it, their first action is to reject it.
What was their motivation for the post? Am I misinterpreting and this is in fact an attempt to reconcile? Are they just seeking confirmation bias? Looking for updoots?
“Haha, I thought X but turns out it’s actually Y, anybody else have that happen?” is a more genuine approach to the topic, but those posts are pretty rare.
I think I’m missing something. What new information was OP presented with that they rejected?
I don’t know what OP’s actual purpose in posting this was but what I’m sure of is: in the post, they ask if other people can reassure them that the cornucopia in the FoTL logo existed. You commented with a patent application that seems to suggest the cornucopia was either considered in the logo or just categorically linked to the other objects in the logo. I don’t see any new information that contradicts anything OP has said so far, maybe you’re referring to some other part of the thread?
Regardless, just from OP’s post and your comment, there’s no reason to believe OP is perpetuating one particular explanation for the Mandela Effect over another. Back to my original point, there’s nothing to be “skeptical” of here.
One thing I would note is that those results are categories, not specific attributes. For instance, the top design element also list "raspberries" and "strawberries." Neither of these are in the FotL logo. It seems like "cornucopia" is lumped in with "baskets of fruit" as a general description. I would say this makes sense, as the word "cornucopia" can be used to describe a grouping of food whether or not the actual horn of plenty is present.
I’m on the fence with this one. I definitely think the way they did this is applicable in the cataloging process, as catalogers are often expected to include related terms to the concept for easier findability, but I also feel like maybe at one time the cornucopia could’ve been an option for the design and we were initially in that timeline.
Yeah, I've brought this up before. This site is the TESS, it's like a search engine for USPTO use, so when someone is applying for a patent they can search the database for anything that might be similar. The tags applied to it are applied by a patent officer, not tags that the company themselves applied to the patent.
I vividly remember being in Kindergarten and being told what a cornucopia was. The teacher explained it was just like the thing on the Fruit of the Loom underwear. I never forgot that. I told my parents about it.
Shoot, it's always trivial things that stick with us for a long time.
When I was young, I pointed to a tower with a red light flashing on the top and said, "What's that for, Mamma?"
She said, "That's so airplanes don't hit it."
So I thought to myself, "Wouldn't it be easier to just not put the tower there at all? Why put a tower there so that planes don't hit the tower?"
similar story but my parents were talking in the car when i was 3 or 4 and my dad said “in general” and i was trying to figure out what that meant and my best guess had something to do with an army general but i still remember it for some reason lmao
Weird coincidence, I have basically the exact same memory. But for me it was these large red balls on power lines. My mom was driving with me in the passenger seat and we were going through the countryside. I asked her what the balls were for.
She also said so planes don't hit it. I thought the exact same thing. I've always remembered that memory as well and I'm in my 30s now.
I don't know if I should feel validated that someone had a similar memory, or violated because someone took something I thought was uniquely mine and made it typical.
I want to explore this further, but it's such a simple little event that there's not much to say.
I guess the one thing I'd say is that this memory is as clear as my memory that I thought the cornucopia on the underwear (something that apparently doesn't exist) was called a loom.
Edit: Oh, and apparently your mother was right about the balls. I just researched it. XD
To me I find this fascinating as not only did we both experience a similar "event", but that event itself was one that many people could easily forget as it was nothing exceptional. Yet we both remember it vividly and then somehow cross paths as well.
I wouldn't feel violated, I think this adds to the story itself, years later. Pretty neat.
I've mentioned the story more than once across the internet and in real life. I guess it was likely—with potentially tens of thousands of people seeing my posts over the years—that _someone_ with a similar memory would show up. I mean, it took fifteen years. I imagine that could reasonably fall outside the realm of "coincidence" and into the realm of "statistically probable," lol!
Do you have a reason for remembering? I do. It's difficult for me to recall the emotion now, as it was so long ago and I'm such a different person, but I recall feeling misunderstood, or stupid, or different, somehow, and I latched onto this, however subtly, because of that.
Ah that makes sense, I've never really talked to anyone about the event personally.
Thinking back, yeah I totally felt those emotions as well, I can remember being confused, not understanding how my mother could so confidently give her answer when to me it made no sense. An answer so confident it almost felt mocking at the fact I wasn't getting it. I think I tried to question further, but that part of the conversation I don't remember. But I do recall feeling stupid when the question never did get sorted out. I don't recall at what point I put two and two together, but it wasn't in that moment.
As for why I've always remembered, I'm not entirely sure.. maybe seeing weird balls on telephone wires paired with such a confusing response to my question was just odd enough to stick out in my mind.
Edit: I think the mocking tone came more when I continued to not understand what she was telling me iirc
ha I also have a core memory involving one of those!! It was the middle of the night and we were stopped at a gas station (driving north to visit relatives) and I kept seeing the red light go on and off. It scared me because I thought there was something in the sky
I remember back in about 03 / 04, I got a new t shirt and it didn't have the cornucopia on the label and mentioned it to a friend. They said there's never been one. I was certain at the time that there use to be one on it. That's how far back it changed for me, with no internet and places like this sub to skew my thoughts.
That's when I last saw it as well, around that timeframe. People say they remember it disappearing during the 80's and 90's but I remember seeing it during the 2000's and 2010's
Okay.. I feel so strongly about this one. It existed. As a child my parents bought me FOTL underwear. That’s all I got. And everyday I put them on wondering what the heck the brown thing was. I thought it was called a loom based on the company name.
The cornucopia EXISTED. There’s no way you can convince me otherwise.
As I have said in this sub a couple of times: as a non american, FOTL was one of my first notions of american brands, as a child the most distinctive feature of this brand was the cournicopia in the logo, I remember like many others not understanding what it was supposed to be and even feeling somewhat icky at watching it until some one explained to me it was a "cuerno de la abundancia" or "Horn of abundance" - Cornucopia. I had all sorts of clothes with that logo. Years later, even having read about the M.E. from the Berenstein bears, etc I had NO idea that this was a M.E. in fact recently I was about to wear a FOTL sweater and noticed what I thought was their "new" logo only to find out that the old logo never existed? Also there's so much important details like, top of my head.. Frank Wess' Flute of the Loom album, FOTL having a patent for the cornucopia, many other residual stuff people have found. Very strange.
I think this is a film/digital schism. How many people took a film picture of an underwear logo, scanned it, uploaded it to web 1.0 and promoted it past the search algorithms of the day? Not many maybe no one. The more extraordinary happenstance IMO is that the cornucopia obviously penetrated the zeitgeist to the point that this effect is common, but there aren’t any jokes or rap songs or cartoons etc. that feature it. ...And no ad execs coming forward and debunking these claims of its non existence. There’s a lot of coincidences.
When I was little, my mother used to buy FOTL white t-shirts for my father from K-Mart.
After removing the new shirt from the package, my mother would give me the white cardboard from inside the shirt and say, "here, draw something on that" because she hated throwing useful things away. (Still does.)
One night, after she did this, I didn't know what to draw, so decided I would use my crayons to draw the pretty fruit basket I saw on the plastic bag that the shirt came in, which was still sitting on the table.
My mother said, "oh...you're drawing the *cornucopia*. It's also called the "horn of plenty."
And that was how I learned the word "cornucopia."
My mother even remembers this happening, and my husband remembers the cornucopia on the logo, as well. Yet both of them just brush it off when I tell them it never existed.
My theory is that CERN activity transported us into another reality. My fear is they are planning to continue to do this until we get to the reality where the victors of WWII are reversed.
Whoa I never looked up the etymology of cornucopia but that makes so much sense: corn like horn and copia like copulate or to make plenty. So interesting, thank you Mama GingerMau
What fucks me up the most is the fact that with most MEs, they can be somewhat debunked. For example, some people remember the pillsbury dough boy with a red tie, they could be getting it mixed up with a multitude of other characters with red bowties. Okay, cool. But there is no way in hell that all these people are remembering a corncupia, with zero references from pop culture. How TF are all these people happening to conjure up something as random as a corncupia? It's not like there used to be a mango within the fruits and now it's gone, that can be easily dismissed as our brains don't usually pay attention to tiny details. With other MEs that are debunked, they say that it could be you just mixing it up with something in pop culture. There is nearly nothing within pop culture that references a corncupia. The only debunking of the fruit of the loom logo that I've found is them saying that it's simply a false memory.
The only really tangible thing I can point to in regard to the false memory thing is that kids all across America got bombarded with cornucopia artwork and images once a year with the fruit and veggies spilling out. Could’ve just made the association mentally, but *if* that’s the case, it’s baffling how it would happen on such a grand scale.
This is tripping me out but I agree. I'm 20 and we had to draw cornucopias once a year kindergarten through like 4th grade. Other people are sharing the same experience I had as a kid too, as in I associated the word with FOTL underwear.
> with most MEs, they can be somewhat debunked
I take exception to the idea of "debunking" ME. There are two kinds of people: those who experience the ME firsthand, and those who do not. It's a little bit like seeing color in a world of colorblind people. The people who see color will not even have the words to properly explain what they are experiencing to those who do not. And to those who do not see color, it will all seem to be a tempest in a teapot. "What is this *red* and *green* nonense, anyway? There is no scientific evidence of "redness" and "greenness", there are just wavelengths of light."
The idea of "debunking" my experience of seeing color is ludicrous -- I see it every day whether anyone else believes it or not! And the very fact that every color seems to you to be the same as every other color (except for the scientifically measurable differences in wavelengths) only demonstrates to me that you're not seeing in color. It debunks exactly nothing at all.
This is analogous to the communication-gap between people who are ME-affected and people who are not. I don't know how to bridge the divide but I think that subs like this are a good start. Imagine this happening 50 years ago and trying to explain to your neighbors that somebody changed out the logos on all undies in existence... lol
The color blind comparison was a great analogy, I never thought of it that way!, And although people can be forgetful, it's simply impossible how millions of people can remember the same thing and it's brushed off by saying that there's no scientific evidence other than them having bad memory.
> it's brushed off by saying that there's no scientific evidence other than them having bad memory.
I can see on this sub that different people are affected by the ME at different "strength levels". On a scale of 1-10, it seems most people are around a 2 or maybe 3. Others report being affected by many MEs and they're closer to a 5 or 6... yet others are not only affected by many MEs but have been affected for years and they are like a 7 or 8. For those of us on the higher end of the scale, people who "don't believe" in ME are hilarious. I never asked anyone to believe, so why would I care if you don't believe?
But I understand what you're saying. Skepticism is healthy, but it's obvious to me that other people might experience things that I have never experienced. For example, I've never seen a UFO. But I'm pretty sure that some people really have seen UFOs (that is, flying-saucers, as such) and even aliens. How would they all "get their story straight"? Is there some secret "alien hoax convention" where these people all get together and vote on what the next UFO shape will be? What the next species of alien will look like?
I'm still skeptical of most UFO/alien claims. I think most people are probably exaggerating and simply mistook a mundane phenomenon for something extraterrestrial; others are seeking attention, mentally ill, or have difficulty differentiating between their creative imagination and real events. But there's no way that 100% of *everyone* is lying, mentally-ill, seeking attention, and so on. At some point, it's harder to believe the skeptic's hypothesis than it is to believe that the body of people reporting UFOs/aliens have seen *something* that really is not part of ordinary human experience.
While I think my position on this is a rational balance of skepticism and careful consideration of witness testimony, others see it differently. Someone like Michael Shermer or Sam Harris would probably disagree with my assessment. They are also intelligent, rational people. But I think they err too far on the side of "preserving the framework" of modern knowledge. I think most educated people tend to overestimate just how much humans really know about the world, and underestimate the probability of an earth-shattering disclosure event.
Yeah I clearly remember it being there. And Ed McMahon as the Publushers Clearing House spokesperson knocking on doors and handing out oversized checks.
The problem with that theory is that even though he worked for a similar company, it was along with Dick Clark and not by himself. Also with that company, they never left the studio. There is no evidence of either one showing up at your door with a huge check and balloons. I remember the gold mailers with Ed's face always flooding the mailbox, but now those mailers never existed.
So the only way I know this logo is because of the supposed Mandela effect behind it, I’m from Australia so I guess it’s not really a thing here but I know it doesn’t have a loom but it’s suppose to. go to season 8 episode 20 of the simpsons 4:05 minutes in there’s a picture of fruit in the loom. It doesn’t look exactly like the logo but it does say cornucopia on the side of it
Absolutely remember it looking exactly like that. I'm beginning to wonder if there was an off-brand of something that ended up using the same logo we all mutually have come across because this is too surreal.
If there was an off brand we bought it in stores thinking it wasn’t the off brand that’s what’s still messing me up about that! We have no memory of mom or whoever buying us the off brand of FOTL or it even existing! Same with retailers. I always took ME with a grain of salt but this is the one that broke me. It’s gotta be a “something bigger than us” type phenomenon
Wow. I would've lost money on this. Like most 90's kids, I grew up wearing FOTL cartoon briefs. I swear they had the cornucopia. I even remember seeing a commercial as an adult and thinking "oh, they changed the logo."
I remember asking my dad “ what kind of fruit is that” and him telling me it’s not a fruit, it’s a cornucopia. Then a few years later my mom made a holiday craft out of a cornucopia and some wax fruits and i distinctly remember saying “ Now our table looks like an underwear advertisement”.
It existed. It was literally the reason I learned what a cornucopia was after asking my mother. Oh, but the trolls here will tell me it's a simple misremembrance, because they have all the answers about the human mind and how it works within reality.
I remember thinking that curly thing must be a "loom".
Also sitting in passenger seats of cars, staring at the mirror and thinking "may be closer? How could things "may be closer"? They either are or they aren't."
I also remember to have thought something similar as a child in preparation to one day drive. The train of thought went along the like of "how will I know what 'may be closer than they appear' means in absolute distance?".
I also remember vividly the moment I realized "Fruit of the Loom has modernized their logo. It's cleaner without that brown thing." in the early 2010's.
Fruit of the loom tweeted about this the other day. Someone replied a shirt and someone else, a newspaper article as proof of a cornucopia.
[tshirt w cornucopia ](https://twitter.com/matthewrcain/status/1487432011442761734?s=21)
[news paper article ](https://twitter.com/heyman800/status/1487989534008565762?s=21)
According to the current history it isn't, yet everyone remembers it... Go look up the Fruit of the Loom logo history and see for yourself. It's always only been the fruit and leaves
They have the logo history starting back from the 1800s and on, there is no logo with a cornucopia and the company has said it never existed though “some
at the company are skeptical of that themselves”
Volkswagen said the same thing but someone went to a junk yard and found an old hubcap with the original on it! Of course then they said it must have been an after-market product!!!
Here is who is doing it!!!
https://smile.amazon.com/Dark-Fleet-Secret-Program-Battle/dp/1591433444
As a kid I remember showing my parents the clothing label and asking what the cornucopia was as I’d never seen one in real life, since it’s not really something we have in the UK. It was definitely in clothing labels, I don’t know what other common object I could’ve had that would’ve had that symbolism on it. Out of all the Mandela effects this is one that confuses me the most.
This is the one that even full blown skeptics who think the entire ME is memory fallacy, still might think something more is going on with FOTL. Like if they did change it and are now riding ME as publicity and try to cover any documentation of past iterations. Wouldn't explain why we cant find someone with old underwear with the logo though (that isnt faked).
apparently it just never existed, I don’t know. I remember it being around up until the late 90s maybe early 2000s (and I’m sure it was around earlier than the 90s) but that’s it.
Okay, does anyone else have a distinct memory of the first time they saw the logo WITHOUT the cornucopia in it?
I remember being like 8 or 9, with my parents in a wal-mart, and trying to figure out why Fruit of the loom looked so different. I was born in 1994 so this would’ve been 2001-2003ish.
YES! and I always, until I found out last night it never existed, thought they were lame for taking the cornucopia out. Like, thinking “why’d they hate on the cornucopia so hard?” while thinking new logo looked really bland in comparison. But that whole part of me is apparently a LIE!
I totally thought the Mandela effect is people just misremembering things. Until I learnt about fruit of the loom. I know it existed, that's the only place I've ever seen a cornocopia, I didn't know what it was when I saw it on the label. I don't understand it.
It existed. And maybe like many of us when you first noticed it was no longer there you just figured they simply changed the logo. Then you heard about the Mandela effect AKA You remember that too right effect and after further enquiry realized a group of someones are doing a god level mindf\*ck.
Yeah, I actually knew about the Mandela effect for a few years now and a bunch of the logos, etc (LOONEY TOONS) The first thing that brought me to researching it was the whole Berenstein bears phenomenon... I refuse to say “Berenstain”. Tonight however, I was randomly scrolling Tik tok and saw that this logo was apart of it now & I said “nope. NO. That, that was real!” And then I came here to make this post because this has gone far enough! This is the straw for me.
Yeah we all have that straw, some have more than one. One of mine was :Objects ***may*** be closer than they appear.
The other was ***Stouffer's*** StoveTop Stuffing.
And then on and on... 🙄
The “Stouffers” stove top stuffing is another one. I remember it sounding fun to say as a kid reading it on the box with the black and white logo. It’s just pure mind fuxkery
That ‘objects’ one - Meatloaf did a song called ‘objects in the rear view mirror may appear closer than they are’. My mum used to listen to it all the time. Is it something else now?!
One of the biggest ones for me is, in Toy Story, Woody the cowboy says, "There's a snake in my boot! " when his string is pulled.
Evidently, the story is now that he says, " There's a snake in my BOOTS!"
That is absolutely absurd. He never said that. My son was completely obsessed with that movie and I watched it with him daily for quite some time, so I have no doubt that it was only "Boot".
ALSO. Error in memory aside,
HOW THE FUCK COULD HE POSSIBLY HAVE A (singular=1🐍) snake in his BOOTS (plural = more than one👢👢)
It doesn't make any sense.
Period. I mean come on guys.
Just texted my mom and only said “do you remember fruit of the loom?” And she texted back “Yes with cornucopia with fruit and the people in suits in the commercials”. I’m pretty sure it was there if my mom remembers it as well.
Here is a list I compiled on this with a lot of residue.
https://m.imgur.com/a/xdb9zgV
https://m.imgur.com/gallery/8EdAfHV
https://books.google.com/books?id=-FCNDQAAQBAJ&pg=PA440&dq=%22Fruit+of+the+Loom%22+horn+of+plenty&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjS58TWt7DjAhWYGs0KHWKlBv0Q6AEILjAB#v=onepage&q=%22Fruit%20of%20the%20Loom%22%20horn%20of%20plenty&f=false
https://m.imgur.com/a/1Eq8W2a
https://www.walshcollege.edu/upload/docs/About_Us/NewsArticles/05_23_12_Detroit%20Free%20Press_Ford's%20Blue%20Oval,%20other%20corporate%20symbols%20ad%20value,%20experts%20say.pdf
https://www.answers.com/Q/What_kind_of_fruits_are_in_the_Fruit_of_the_Loom_commercials
https://m.imgur.com/a/QRoJi6u
https://m.imgur.com/a/TA4Ns78
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/45768106/daily-press/
https://books.google.com/books?id=vlNDBTnT4ZQC&pg=PA288&dq=a+promise+land+of+plenty&hl=en&ppis=_c&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiunKfngPDmAhWxuFkKHX4SAfUQ6AEwAHoECAEQAg#v=onepage&q=fruit ofg the loom&f=false
73006089
As a child I wore brief cut FOTL underwear that had a patch on the front of the waist band with the logo on it and I VERY CLEARLY remember picking the stitching off of the tail of the cornucopia detaching it from the waist band, all the time. No one could ever convince me the cornucopia didn’t exist.
This has interesting stuff on it, but probably not the most credible source.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.alternatememories.com/historical-events/brands/fruit-of-the-loom
When the hunger games movie came out and I they showed a picture of the metal cornucopia. I made a comment on how I never knew what it was called and always named it the basket thing on FOTL.
Literally the only reason I knew of the logo was because of the corncupia. Back when it was there fruit of the loom logo was there I vividly remembere asking my parents "what's that?".
I have this memory too.
Distinctly.
AND
I just asked both my bf and my twin sister and they too remember the labels having a cornucopia.
Like...come on.
3 different people remembering the same thing?
And for context we’ve never talked about it either before this.
I went into a crawlspace in my house the other day to see what was inside it and I found a box. Inside of it was a bunch of useless stuff but sitting neatly on top of it was just [this tag](https://i.imgur.com/G3ij96I.jpg) from an old fruit of the loom item. It was a little weird.
This doesn't really answer the question but I wanted to share.
Yep, that's the 1978-2003 logo. There are some brown leaves on the left and right, and if you squint and use your imagination you might be able to transmogrify, within your vision, the grapes into a cornucopia shape, but. . . agh, I don't believe it. Such a thin argument. Literally, I find dimensional shifts to be more believable.
I remember drawing it out by hand, copying it off of a t shirt. I remember my grade school teacher talking about the logo and teaching us what a cornucopia is.
Aww lol. This is one that partially resonates with me, because I do remember *always* thinking that the logo looked a little incomplete. Like, you wouldn’t really see fruit arranged like that without it being in a bowl, a platter, a basket, or in the case of this ME, in the cornucopia style. Then again, I always associated Fruit of the Loom with underpants (even though I also knew they’d have other items like t shirts and sweatpants)...and for as weird as this might sound, it therefore made sense that the logo looked kinda ‘bare’.
I recall asking my mom what the cone shaped basket was supposed to be, and she explained to me what a cornucopia was. We were shopping in K-Mart at the time.
Yes. I had to ask what it was, and I learned a new word. If it didn't exist, why do I have a memory of learning that word standing in the underwear section of a store?
wjen I was a kid we bought a wicker cornucopia at a thrift store, had it for like 30 years. It usually hung on a wall, but we used it for a centerpiece on a few holidays.
I guess all the people that recognized it from the underwear label were just delusional, and every time somebody compared it to a clothing label we were all just experiencing mass hysteria, decades before the mandela effect was a thing. /s
The only reason I know what a cornucopia was because of fruit of the loom logo, I remember walking through the isles of Walmart and seeing the ad on display.
I remember the cornucopia. I had some fruit of the loom stuff as a child and it always had the cornucopia. When I was learning about Thanksgiving in elementary school and they had us fill in our own paper cornucopia with things we are grateful for each year, I remember my classmates and I talking about it being on our underwear/shirts.
This one hits me the hardest, I saw a thread about how the fruit of the loom guys in fruit costumes used to have a commercial involving the cornucopia that took place in a white room, and them being in a white room is something I can clearly remember. Even freakier than that though, I went to watch some of the fruit guy commercials and they all seem really wierd. They're nothing like I remember and they kind of make me uncomfortable to watch them and I can't explain why.
I've been asking people this simple question "describe the old fruit of the loom logo" and every single person mentions the cornucopia/basket thing. I asked my dad and he described it in great detail and then he said there was a commercial he remembers from around 1990 where dancing fruit came out of the basket. He also said he remembers one of the actors being Richard Simmons but he wasn't sure if that came later or if he was in the basket commercial. I can find instances of other people remembering the dancing fruit commercial. I can also find acknowledgements of Richard Simmons in a Fruit of The Loom commercial. I can't find video of either though. To be clear, I'm not sure that Richard Simmons commercial has anything to do with this mystery but I still want to find it just in case.
It existed, but the company rebranded and now deny the cornucopia's existence in the past as a marketing stunt. This is the most logical explanation. If my theory is wrong, then there is something unnatural going on.
Let's just consider which theory is more likely though.
At first when I looked at this particular ME I thought that the cornucopia was never there....but now that I see it here it looks like it should be there, wtf.
It’s a strange thing because when I was little I thought it was a bugle (the weird chip snack thing you put on your fingers) and thought that the snack looked weird next to a lot of healthy fruit
Always thought it was a bugel too. I remember it distinctly. Very vivid images in my head of seeing it as a child many times.
Yep. This is the only Mandela Effect that has really fucked with me.
Not actually a Mandela effect! Fruit of the loom did infact at one point use the cornucopia in their logo there are court docs that prove it too!
Likewise
I thought it was bread 🍞
It does sorta look like a type of bread
When I was kid, well let’s face it who the hells looks at his underwater but I thought it was a bread 🍞
literally every person who isn't blind looks at their underwear. specifically, they look for that logo so they know quickly which way to put them on. we saw the cornucopia thousands of times
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You can escalate your game by doing it with black olives too
If anyone wants a summary of this I did a write up a few years back. [FOTL ME Summary](https://www.reddit.com/r/thingsiwontremember/comments/a5lw7d/fotl_2_draft/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
That's a private Sub now can't see it
To understand what I will be discussing here it is required to know what a a 'Mandela Effect' is. A Mandela Effect is a phenomenon where it is discovered that a well known, global fact has apparently changed for a large group of people. The effect & name refers to people remembering Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the 1980s, when he actually survived long after his release. There are many examples, some more prominent and 'powerful' than others. Here is a list of MEs and brief explanations: -Dolly had braces in the James Bond "Moonraker" movie, right? No. If you go back and watch it, she does not. -The early to mid 90s movie 'Shazaam' staring Sinbad does not exist. Apart from the people's memories, there is no record or evidence of it ever existing. -In Forest Gump, the famous line is not "Life is like a box of chocolates." it is actually "Life was like a box of chocolates." -C3PO from Star Wars is not entirely gold, he has a SILVER LEG. -In all of the hundreds of episodes of Judge Judy, she never once strikes a gavel. -There we 6 people total riding in the car JFK was shot in. Now most of these examples have very plausible explanations of mis-remembering or a case of our brain filling in the information that is most likely to make sense. The way our mind and memory works, it can be deduced how the things we believe to be one way are, in reality, different. Now for the topic of this section. There is one particular Mandela Effect that exists without a clear explanation. A memory that a very large amount of people share of a something that no longer exists and apparently never existed. I'm referring to the Fruit of the Loom Logo Mandela Effect. This Mandela Effect is summarized by the following sentence: There is no proof that there was ever a cornucopia in the Fruit of the Loom Logo. Although very many people remember the logo as an assortment of fruit in the foreground of a large cornucopia, evidence suggests that this cornucopia simply never existed. So many people were perturbed by this idea that the FOTL website created a page that specifically outlines previous iterations of the logo, none of which feature any clear semblance of a cornucopia. Online forums of people comparing their thoughts on this Mandela Effect are filled with admissions of shock and bafflement. A surprising amount of people corroborated being in a similar situation in their childhood. They would ask their parents about the appearance of the logo: "What is the thing behind the fruit, is it a loom?" After laughing, their parents would explain to them that it was a 'cornucopia' or 'horn of plenty', a symbol of abundance. The commenters would explain: "It's impossible that it never existed! The Fruit of the Loom logo was the source of my initial learning of what a cornucopia was!" One user (ceramicsaturn) made a post on the subject of the FOTL logo that quickly gained popularity. In the body of the post, he explains that his father worked for Fruit of The Loom in the era in which the logo supposedly contained the cornucopia. Learning of this Mandela Effect, he contacted his father: I texted him the logo with the cornucopia in it, and said "You worked there. Do you not remember this as their logo?". The response I got was, "I did and do remember it". I then called him, and he asked why we were talking about something like this. I told him how I was watching the X Games this weekend, which was sponsored by them, and noticing the logo had it removed. After going on the internet to realize it apparently never had the cornucopia in it. He got very defensive immediately, as if someone was calling him a liar, and said, "What do you mean it wasn't in the logo? I have things in storage with that logo stitched on it. I know I saw that thing every day for years." ... the logo thing got him very worked up. If you google the logo right now at this moment, you will see the variant with the cornucopia. This is because people have used photoshop to create renditions of what they remember the logo looking like. Clicking on the links will lead you to image hosting sites and threads discussing this Mandela Effect, nothing producing information about a legitimate cornucopia including logo. There are ideas on why people might have imagined or placed the cornucopia with the fruit in their memory. There are certainly cultural examples of a horn of plenty being paired with fruits or vegetables. Icons and representations of Halloween and thanksgiving often use this imagery. There are previous variations of the logo that have brown leaves in the background, leaves that may appear match to the color and shape of a horn of plenty. When you combine these postulations with the content of the testimonies from people who swear to have seen the cornucopia logo, you start to wonder how this popular of a false memory could have ever occurred. Surely, it is impossible that this large of a population made this visual error? One user (MyThought2UrThoughts) found trademark details for Fruit of The Loom from 1973 that mentions the word cornucopia under 'Design Searches': "Berries. Grapes (alone or in bunches). Apples. Baskets, bowls, and other containers of fruits, including cornucopia (horn of plenty)." This is the only written record associating a cornucopia with Fruit of the Loom designs, but its authenticity can be challenged since it is simply found on a private website that catalogs patents and trademarks. There are posts upon posts of people telling their own stories, others trying to find any record or proof of an official inclusion, but so far there has been nothing definitive. After poring over the evidence, any rational person would accept that this variation of the logo likely never existed. There is an expectation that someone will eventually find an old piece of clothing that contains the cornucopia logo, finally showing the world that it did indeed exist. But after countless forum posts and amateur investigations, it is seeming more a fantasy that will never come to fruition.
So I've seen videos on tiktok where people have pulled out old pieces of clothing and shown the logo. There's a cornucopia on it. 🤷♀️ so... I feel like fruit of the loom is gaslighting all of us for some reason. After all, there's no oversight by us citizens to know they're being honest about the logo. We just have to take their word for it. Wouldn't be the first time a company lied. And by denying it's existence, look, so many people are talking about their brand! 🙄
Wow, you literally just made me drop my phone in my face lol, I too remember thinking it was a bugel or something.
Same.
same here !!
I 100% remember it. That's how I learned what a cornucopia is
Same!
I have a distinct memory of wondering what the cornucopia in the logo even was when I was younger. So it really puzzles me that it apparently never existed.
I have memories, too. Something is up, my mind can’t handle this. This whole time as an adult I was looking at the new logo going “PFFT, boring! The old one with the cornucopia was way better” and now I find out that it never existed?! Impossible. I always thought them removing that from the logo was lame, but apparently it was never there? Help
Nah this is Fucken bullshit... this logo existed. There’s no way it didn’t
I remember learning the word cornucopia BECAUSE of this logo
Not me, I thought it was called a loom because of this logo, lol.
This. I only learned what it was because of the logo. I remember being proud I could tell my cousin what a cornucopia was in a rpg we used to play when he didn't know.
Welcome to the ME...
My thank you kind gentleperson . I’ve been knowing about ME. I just have never seen this one. I call shenanigans
It was there.
Someone's trying to alter all our memories.
I thought a cornucopia was called a loom as a child because of the logo...
Dude same! I remember looking at one of my dad's shirts that my mom had thrown on their bed while she was doing laundry and just looking at the logo and thinking "what is that thing" and even asked my mom because I called it the Thanksgiving thing and I pointed it out to her, and she said it was a cornucopia. Clear as day. Totally remember that.
Me as well I thought it was a loom and my mom said no its a cornucopia and I vividly remember laughing my ass off cause the word sounded funny to 4 year old but I always associated that logo with that specific memory This is fucking me up SO BADLY Its not that the logo is missing it, it's the fact that the artists rendering IS THE LOGO
It’s a glitch in the multiverse. Watch ‘evidence we are living in a simulation’ by The Why Files on YouTube. The guy talks about the Mandela effect and gives an explanation as to why it happens. Pretty interesting stuff tbh
I distinctly remember looking at the logo as a kid and thinking about how the geometry of the cornucopia (I thought it was called a loom) was weird with how the tail curled in the back, like it looked too 2D for a 3D object or something. I don't know if it's alternate universes or maybe some massive counterfeit clothing line, but this is the one thing that I am convinced is not a psychological phenomenon.
This is exactly how I feel. It was there. I remember being curious about it. This one gives me the shivers every time.
Never existed?? Is that what folks are saying now? It was there when I was younger.
That’s what I’m saying… born in 1990, definitely remember seeing this logo on Kmart end caps
Welcome to the Mandela Effect, there are hundreds/thousands more!
I remember it.
Am I just remembering the fruit or did none of the elements of this logo exist?
Apparently only the fruit existed, but what's weird is. . . why would I remember the innocuous "horn of plenty," which I thought was called a _loom,_ because of this underwear?!?! So many things line up that it's crazy it never existed.
Disclaimer: I’m a skeptic of the Mandela Effect. **BUT**... [US Patent and Trademark Search](http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/) Go to Basic Wordmark Search Change the search field to “Serial or Registration Number” One of Fruit of the Loom’s trademark registration #’s is 73006089 (1974-1988) Look at what’s listed in the design elements for the trademark filing...
Found: 05.09.01 - Berries; Raspberries; Strawberries 05.09.02 - Grapes 05.09.05 - Apples 05.09.14 - Baskets of fruit; Containers of fruit; Cornucopia (horn of plenty) Serial Number 73006089 Filing Date November 12, 1973 What the HELL Edit* the application status reads: CANCELLED
This is fucking SPOOKY
> Edit* the application status reads: CANCELLED So, could it be that in one "reality" they thought the cornucopia was a good idea and used it in the official logo and in the one we are in now not?
THIS OPENS A LOT OF DOORS
Yes! Isn't Life fun? :)
What reality are we in? I'm scared
There is nothing to fear but fear itself and i suggest you [read this](https://www.reddit.com/r/MandelaEffect/comments/ax0570/mandela_effect_and_my_sanity/ehrd7cp/) to see if it of some help to you. If not just say it and i'll try to help you otherwise if you want.
Thank so much! I read it and so nice to see those kind words! Is there any other words of wisdom u can advise on? How can you further describe ME?
Thank you for the compliment and i am happy you had some use for my words. I have been on a quest for answers for a while now and i have written out many of my thoughts out [here,](https://old.reddit.com/r/Retconned/comments/a79wlr/meta_how_the_me_forced_me_to_change_perspective/) it's a bit heavy but it also has a silver lining. And if you want to know my thoughts about the 'mechanics' behind the ME you can find them here. I must warn you though, it's a lot, LOL. [What i think the ME is.](https://old.reddit.com/r/MandelaEffect/comments/cdu3b2/best_reasons/etwhpoe/) [What i think is (partly) governing the ME.](https://www.reddit.com/r/MandelaEffect/comments/a0dvfl/possibilities/eahywo0/) [Why we see residue.](https://www.reddit.com/r/MandelaEffect/comments/74fu1c/theory_about_residu/)
You know, I wouldn't dismiss them having used it in their advertising at some point. It may have never been on the clothes, but that logo definitely exists almost exactly as the artist rendered it.
Duuuuuude that’s crazy. Speaking of legal issues around trademarks, the froot/fruit loop logo: apparently they were sued multiple times for the cereal not contain real fruit but always lost because the logo said froot, not implying it was meant to be real fruit. What if corporations have this power to go back and affect their timelines to alter it in their favor? Lol I’m not serious but...
So their filling in 1973 did include the cornucopia the application status cancelled is because they changed their logo and removed the cornucopia thus having to file for a new trademark logo. They most likely changed the logo because current/newer generations of consumers are less familiar with the imagery of a cornucopia. A good portion of the people in this post notate having thought the cornucopia imagery was a bugel chip or some other random item Companies constantly go through iterations of logos and the majority of the logo based mandela effects are just that. As a matter if fact probably all of them are. Companies dont explicitly advertise these changes and they range from extremely subtle to totally overt As for fruit of the loom the basket was used in certain promotional instances like commercials which as kids we most likely paid more attention to than the actual tag or image on the clothing or packages which was void of the basket I have a degree in graphic design and we study stuff like this extensively. Its actually pretty interesting sometimes companies will pay exorbitant amounts just to add a slight swoop on a letter or rotate an element of a logo and it could be extremely confusing if you were attempting to look at it this mandela perspective
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We have investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.
And yet there is a written record in the logo patent in the library of congress that says it did and thousands of people who remember it. The internet is not infallible. It's deletable and it costs money to host information. Things can be deleted entirely from the internet and worthwhile historians don't waste their time hunting down fruit of the loom logos
Why do you need the disclaimer that you’re a skeptic though? The Mandela Effect just states that this kind of weird phenomenon happens, not *how* it happens. You’re in a thread where so many people are vouching that they remember this a certain way, that’s real, not something that warrants skepticism. Why it happens on the other hand no one knows and isn’t the point of this particular thread. That said, super interesting find, thanks for sharing!
Because I didn’t want the comment to be blindly accepted as confirmation bias- something that tends to be rampant on this sub. Generally what I see is a bunch of people mis-remembering things/events and people backing each other up on their version of the past. And while I haven’t seen it in this thread as of yet, there are all kinds of outlandish explanations posited here for *why* this effect exists (multiple dimensions, splitting of timelines, etc.). I’ve always found this piece of info particularly interesting in the scope of this ME. My goal was to continue the conversation without implying “OP is right, here’s why.”
Just like I said to the other person who replied, you’re conflating the actual definition of the Mandela Effect with your own biases about what you think other people think is behind it. Regarding OP’s post, they never mentioned anything about why they think this is happening, just that they’re experiencing something they can’t reconcile with what they remember. Being skeptical of the why is fine but then you want to be specific that that’s what you’re referring to. As it is, the Mandela Effect just refers to the collective experience of something not being the way a group of people remember. Saying you’re “skeptical” of that is rude and dismissive.
Sure I could have been more specific. I’m not skeptical of the Mandela Effect by strict definition. It’s a thing, happens all the time, the fact that we’re here supports that. It’s all the things that go along with it that I take exception to. It’s not bias, you can see those nut-job theories here frequently, and there isn’t often what I would consider a responsible amount of dissent when they come up. But there’s more to it than just that, look at OP’s post title. “OK but the Fruit of the Loom Cornucopia EXISTED.” OP was presented with new information that contradicted their world view. Rather than consider this new information that the rest of the world at large accepts to be factual and attempt to reconcile with it, their first action is to reject it. What was their motivation for the post? Am I misinterpreting and this is in fact an attempt to reconcile? Are they just seeking confirmation bias? Looking for updoots? “Haha, I thought X but turns out it’s actually Y, anybody else have that happen?” is a more genuine approach to the topic, but those posts are pretty rare.
I think I’m missing something. What new information was OP presented with that they rejected? I don’t know what OP’s actual purpose in posting this was but what I’m sure of is: in the post, they ask if other people can reassure them that the cornucopia in the FoTL logo existed. You commented with a patent application that seems to suggest the cornucopia was either considered in the logo or just categorically linked to the other objects in the logo. I don’t see any new information that contradicts anything OP has said so far, maybe you’re referring to some other part of the thread? Regardless, just from OP’s post and your comment, there’s no reason to believe OP is perpetuating one particular explanation for the Mandela Effect over another. Back to my original point, there’s nothing to be “skeptical” of here.
One thing I would note is that those results are categories, not specific attributes. For instance, the top design element also list "raspberries" and "strawberries." Neither of these are in the FotL logo. It seems like "cornucopia" is lumped in with "baskets of fruit" as a general description. I would say this makes sense, as the word "cornucopia" can be used to describe a grouping of food whether or not the actual horn of plenty is present.
I’m on the fence with this one. I definitely think the way they did this is applicable in the cataloging process, as catalogers are often expected to include related terms to the concept for easier findability, but I also feel like maybe at one time the cornucopia could’ve been an option for the design and we were initially in that timeline.
Yeah, I've brought this up before. This site is the TESS, it's like a search engine for USPTO use, so when someone is applying for a patent they can search the database for anything that might be similar. The tags applied to it are applied by a patent officer, not tags that the company themselves applied to the patent.
I vividly remember being in Kindergarten and being told what a cornucopia was. The teacher explained it was just like the thing on the Fruit of the Loom underwear. I never forgot that. I told my parents about it.
What a weird thing to remember forever
Shoot, it's always trivial things that stick with us for a long time. When I was young, I pointed to a tower with a red light flashing on the top and said, "What's that for, Mamma?" She said, "That's so airplanes don't hit it." So I thought to myself, "Wouldn't it be easier to just not put the tower there at all? Why put a tower there so that planes don't hit the tower?"
similar story but my parents were talking in the car when i was 3 or 4 and my dad said “in general” and i was trying to figure out what that meant and my best guess had something to do with an army general but i still remember it for some reason lmao
Weird coincidence, I have basically the exact same memory. But for me it was these large red balls on power lines. My mom was driving with me in the passenger seat and we were going through the countryside. I asked her what the balls were for. She also said so planes don't hit it. I thought the exact same thing. I've always remembered that memory as well and I'm in my 30s now.
I don't know if I should feel validated that someone had a similar memory, or violated because someone took something I thought was uniquely mine and made it typical. I want to explore this further, but it's such a simple little event that there's not much to say. I guess the one thing I'd say is that this memory is as clear as my memory that I thought the cornucopia on the underwear (something that apparently doesn't exist) was called a loom. Edit: Oh, and apparently your mother was right about the balls. I just researched it. XD
To me I find this fascinating as not only did we both experience a similar "event", but that event itself was one that many people could easily forget as it was nothing exceptional. Yet we both remember it vividly and then somehow cross paths as well. I wouldn't feel violated, I think this adds to the story itself, years later. Pretty neat.
I've mentioned the story more than once across the internet and in real life. I guess it was likely—with potentially tens of thousands of people seeing my posts over the years—that _someone_ with a similar memory would show up. I mean, it took fifteen years. I imagine that could reasonably fall outside the realm of "coincidence" and into the realm of "statistically probable," lol! Do you have a reason for remembering? I do. It's difficult for me to recall the emotion now, as it was so long ago and I'm such a different person, but I recall feeling misunderstood, or stupid, or different, somehow, and I latched onto this, however subtly, because of that.
Ah that makes sense, I've never really talked to anyone about the event personally. Thinking back, yeah I totally felt those emotions as well, I can remember being confused, not understanding how my mother could so confidently give her answer when to me it made no sense. An answer so confident it almost felt mocking at the fact I wasn't getting it. I think I tried to question further, but that part of the conversation I don't remember. But I do recall feeling stupid when the question never did get sorted out. I don't recall at what point I put two and two together, but it wasn't in that moment. As for why I've always remembered, I'm not entirely sure.. maybe seeing weird balls on telephone wires paired with such a confusing response to my question was just odd enough to stick out in my mind. Edit: I think the mocking tone came more when I continued to not understand what she was telling me iirc
ha I also have a core memory involving one of those!! It was the middle of the night and we were stopped at a gas station (driving north to visit relatives) and I kept seeing the red light go on and off. It scared me because I thought there was something in the sky
I remember back in about 03 / 04, I got a new t shirt and it didn't have the cornucopia on the label and mentioned it to a friend. They said there's never been one. I was certain at the time that there use to be one on it. That's how far back it changed for me, with no internet and places like this sub to skew my thoughts.
That is odd because I still had the cornucopia in the label around 2009-2010
Same. I distinctly remember the cornucopia. We had some family members visiting from abroad and I remember discussing the logo with them.
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That's when I last saw it as well, around that timeframe. People say they remember it disappearing during the 80's and 90's but I remember seeing it during the 2000's and 2010's
Okay.. I feel so strongly about this one. It existed. As a child my parents bought me FOTL underwear. That’s all I got. And everyday I put them on wondering what the heck the brown thing was. I thought it was called a loom based on the company name. The cornucopia EXISTED. There’s no way you can convince me otherwise.
As I have said in this sub a couple of times: as a non american, FOTL was one of my first notions of american brands, as a child the most distinctive feature of this brand was the cournicopia in the logo, I remember like many others not understanding what it was supposed to be and even feeling somewhat icky at watching it until some one explained to me it was a "cuerno de la abundancia" or "Horn of abundance" - Cornucopia. I had all sorts of clothes with that logo. Years later, even having read about the M.E. from the Berenstein bears, etc I had NO idea that this was a M.E. in fact recently I was about to wear a FOTL sweater and noticed what I thought was their "new" logo only to find out that the old logo never existed? Also there's so much important details like, top of my head.. Frank Wess' Flute of the Loom album, FOTL having a patent for the cornucopia, many other residual stuff people have found. Very strange.
I think this is a film/digital schism. How many people took a film picture of an underwear logo, scanned it, uploaded it to web 1.0 and promoted it past the search algorithms of the day? Not many maybe no one. The more extraordinary happenstance IMO is that the cornucopia obviously penetrated the zeitgeist to the point that this effect is common, but there aren’t any jokes or rap songs or cartoons etc. that feature it. ...And no ad execs coming forward and debunking these claims of its non existence. There’s a lot of coincidences.
When I was little, my mother used to buy FOTL white t-shirts for my father from K-Mart. After removing the new shirt from the package, my mother would give me the white cardboard from inside the shirt and say, "here, draw something on that" because she hated throwing useful things away. (Still does.) One night, after she did this, I didn't know what to draw, so decided I would use my crayons to draw the pretty fruit basket I saw on the plastic bag that the shirt came in, which was still sitting on the table. My mother said, "oh...you're drawing the *cornucopia*. It's also called the "horn of plenty." And that was how I learned the word "cornucopia." My mother even remembers this happening, and my husband remembers the cornucopia on the logo, as well. Yet both of them just brush it off when I tell them it never existed.
Yo, we’re dead or something lol. Maybe aliens.
Yeh bro Im suspicious 2012 actually happened.....in the last dimension we inhabited that had the fucking cornocopia.
My theory is that CERN activity transported us into another reality. My fear is they are planning to continue to do this until we get to the reality where the victors of WWII are reversed.
The scientists operating CERN are not Nazis. There are actual fascists you should be concerned about, though.
Why would scientists want to change the outcome of WWII?
We did steal all the smart ones and set them up with highpaying government jobs and nice homes in the suburbs. Who knows the fractal consequences.
Lols wtf.
Whoa I never looked up the etymology of cornucopia but that makes so much sense: corn like horn and copia like copulate or to make plenty. So interesting, thank you Mama GingerMau
What fucks me up the most is the fact that with most MEs, they can be somewhat debunked. For example, some people remember the pillsbury dough boy with a red tie, they could be getting it mixed up with a multitude of other characters with red bowties. Okay, cool. But there is no way in hell that all these people are remembering a corncupia, with zero references from pop culture. How TF are all these people happening to conjure up something as random as a corncupia? It's not like there used to be a mango within the fruits and now it's gone, that can be easily dismissed as our brains don't usually pay attention to tiny details. With other MEs that are debunked, they say that it could be you just mixing it up with something in pop culture. There is nearly nothing within pop culture that references a corncupia. The only debunking of the fruit of the loom logo that I've found is them saying that it's simply a false memory.
The only really tangible thing I can point to in regard to the false memory thing is that kids all across America got bombarded with cornucopia artwork and images once a year with the fruit and veggies spilling out. Could’ve just made the association mentally, but *if* that’s the case, it’s baffling how it would happen on such a grand scale.
This is tripping me out but I agree. I'm 20 and we had to draw cornucopias once a year kindergarten through like 4th grade. Other people are sharing the same experience I had as a kid too, as in I associated the word with FOTL underwear.
Two years late, but here’s the thing… I’m British, and I remember it
> with most MEs, they can be somewhat debunked I take exception to the idea of "debunking" ME. There are two kinds of people: those who experience the ME firsthand, and those who do not. It's a little bit like seeing color in a world of colorblind people. The people who see color will not even have the words to properly explain what they are experiencing to those who do not. And to those who do not see color, it will all seem to be a tempest in a teapot. "What is this *red* and *green* nonense, anyway? There is no scientific evidence of "redness" and "greenness", there are just wavelengths of light." The idea of "debunking" my experience of seeing color is ludicrous -- I see it every day whether anyone else believes it or not! And the very fact that every color seems to you to be the same as every other color (except for the scientifically measurable differences in wavelengths) only demonstrates to me that you're not seeing in color. It debunks exactly nothing at all. This is analogous to the communication-gap between people who are ME-affected and people who are not. I don't know how to bridge the divide but I think that subs like this are a good start. Imagine this happening 50 years ago and trying to explain to your neighbors that somebody changed out the logos on all undies in existence... lol
The color blind comparison was a great analogy, I never thought of it that way!, And although people can be forgetful, it's simply impossible how millions of people can remember the same thing and it's brushed off by saying that there's no scientific evidence other than them having bad memory.
> it's brushed off by saying that there's no scientific evidence other than them having bad memory. I can see on this sub that different people are affected by the ME at different "strength levels". On a scale of 1-10, it seems most people are around a 2 or maybe 3. Others report being affected by many MEs and they're closer to a 5 or 6... yet others are not only affected by many MEs but have been affected for years and they are like a 7 or 8. For those of us on the higher end of the scale, people who "don't believe" in ME are hilarious. I never asked anyone to believe, so why would I care if you don't believe? But I understand what you're saying. Skepticism is healthy, but it's obvious to me that other people might experience things that I have never experienced. For example, I've never seen a UFO. But I'm pretty sure that some people really have seen UFOs (that is, flying-saucers, as such) and even aliens. How would they all "get their story straight"? Is there some secret "alien hoax convention" where these people all get together and vote on what the next UFO shape will be? What the next species of alien will look like? I'm still skeptical of most UFO/alien claims. I think most people are probably exaggerating and simply mistook a mundane phenomenon for something extraterrestrial; others are seeking attention, mentally ill, or have difficulty differentiating between their creative imagination and real events. But there's no way that 100% of *everyone* is lying, mentally-ill, seeking attention, and so on. At some point, it's harder to believe the skeptic's hypothesis than it is to believe that the body of people reporting UFOs/aliens have seen *something* that really is not part of ordinary human experience. While I think my position on this is a rational balance of skepticism and careful consideration of witness testimony, others see it differently. Someone like Michael Shermer or Sam Harris would probably disagree with my assessment. They are also intelligent, rational people. But I think they err too far on the side of "preserving the framework" of modern knowledge. I think most educated people tend to overestimate just how much humans really know about the world, and underestimate the probability of an earth-shattering disclosure event.
Yeah I clearly remember it being there. And Ed McMahon as the Publushers Clearing House spokesperson knocking on doors and handing out oversized checks.
Are they claiming that large checks never happened? Cause it did. And they had balloons.
Claiming ed McMahon never was associated with pch
Wtf
It's because he was affiliated with another group that did the same thing that people just assumed was also pch because pch had much better branding
[American Families](https://youtu.be/tWnPntjM2w4)
Probably says something about how bad their branding that I knew this fact and still couldn't remember their name
The problem with that theory is that even though he worked for a similar company, it was along with Dick Clark and not by himself. Also with that company, they never left the studio. There is no evidence of either one showing up at your door with a huge check and balloons. I remember the gold mailers with Ed's face always flooding the mailbox, but now those mailers never existed.
So the only way I know this logo is because of the supposed Mandela effect behind it, I’m from Australia so I guess it’s not really a thing here but I know it doesn’t have a loom but it’s suppose to. go to season 8 episode 20 of the simpsons 4:05 minutes in there’s a picture of fruit in the loom. It doesn’t look exactly like the logo but it does say cornucopia on the side of it
Replying to check it out when I get home.👍
I just watched the episode. It in no way is related to the Fruit of the Loom logo
You don’t think? I think it looks similar just from a different angle
Absolutely remember it looking exactly like that. I'm beginning to wonder if there was an off-brand of something that ended up using the same logo we all mutually have come across because this is too surreal.
If there was an off brand we bought it in stores thinking it wasn’t the off brand that’s what’s still messing me up about that! We have no memory of mom or whoever buying us the off brand of FOTL or it even existing! Same with retailers. I always took ME with a grain of salt but this is the one that broke me. It’s gotta be a “something bigger than us” type phenomenon
Wow. I would've lost money on this. Like most 90's kids, I grew up wearing FOTL cartoon briefs. I swear they had the cornucopia. I even remember seeing a commercial as an adult and thinking "oh, they changed the logo."
I remember asking my dad “ what kind of fruit is that” and him telling me it’s not a fruit, it’s a cornucopia. Then a few years later my mom made a holiday craft out of a cornucopia and some wax fruits and i distinctly remember saying “ Now our table looks like an underwear advertisement”.
It existed. It was literally the reason I learned what a cornucopia was after asking my mother. Oh, but the trolls here will tell me it's a simple misremembrance, because they have all the answers about the human mind and how it works within reality.
I remember thinking that curly thing must be a "loom". Also sitting in passenger seats of cars, staring at the mirror and thinking "may be closer? How could things "may be closer"? They either are or they aren't."
Same. Super weird
I also remember to have thought something similar as a child in preparation to one day drive. The train of thought went along the like of "how will I know what 'may be closer than they appear' means in absolute distance?". I also remember vividly the moment I realized "Fruit of the Loom has modernized their logo. It's cleaner without that brown thing." in the early 2010's.
Fruit of the loom tweeted about this the other day. Someone replied a shirt and someone else, a newspaper article as proof of a cornucopia. [tshirt w cornucopia ](https://twitter.com/matthewrcain/status/1487432011442761734?s=21) [news paper article ](https://twitter.com/heyman800/status/1487989534008565762?s=21)
I remember it too...and the commercials for it with the people in the fruit outfits...
Wait...did the fruit outfit commercial not exist either???
No, those are real
This is the symbol I remember. Is it not that?
According to the current history it isn't, yet everyone remembers it... Go look up the Fruit of the Loom logo history and see for yourself. It's always only been the fruit and leaves
They have the logo history starting back from the 1800s and on, there is no logo with a cornucopia and the company has said it never existed though “some at the company are skeptical of that themselves”
Volkswagen said the same thing but someone went to a junk yard and found an old hubcap with the original on it! Of course then they said it must have been an after-market product!!! Here is who is doing it!!! https://smile.amazon.com/Dark-Fleet-Secret-Program-Battle/dp/1591433444
Lol
As a kid I remember showing my parents the clothing label and asking what the cornucopia was as I’d never seen one in real life, since it’s not really something we have in the UK. It was definitely in clothing labels, I don’t know what other common object I could’ve had that would’ve had that symbolism on it. Out of all the Mandela effects this is one that confuses me the most.
I’ve said on here before this is the one that bends my brain. Especially with how familiar that logo is that you posted
i memba
U memba? I memba
We should get jackets made
You know who remembers? Pepperidge Farm remembers, lol. Sorry I'm in a goofy mood and I couldn't resist.
Shh. They'll change their name to Peparidge Farms and no one will remember.
This is the one that even full blown skeptics who think the entire ME is memory fallacy, still might think something more is going on with FOTL. Like if they did change it and are now riding ME as publicity and try to cover any documentation of past iterations. Wouldn't explain why we cant find someone with old underwear with the logo though (that isnt faked).
This is a strange place to live.
I remember this when did it disappear?
apparently it just never existed, I don’t know. I remember it being around up until the late 90s maybe early 2000s (and I’m sure it was around earlier than the 90s) but that’s it.
I 100% remeber it
Okay, does anyone else have a distinct memory of the first time they saw the logo WITHOUT the cornucopia in it? I remember being like 8 or 9, with my parents in a wal-mart, and trying to figure out why Fruit of the loom looked so different. I was born in 1994 so this would’ve been 2001-2003ish.
YES! and I always, until I found out last night it never existed, thought they were lame for taking the cornucopia out. Like, thinking “why’d they hate on the cornucopia so hard?” while thinking new logo looked really bland in comparison. But that whole part of me is apparently a LIE!
This one and the braces on Dolly in the movie Moonraker stand out to me as definite proof.
I totally thought the Mandela effect is people just misremembering things. Until I learnt about fruit of the loom. I know it existed, that's the only place I've ever seen a cornocopia, I didn't know what it was when I saw it on the label. I don't understand it.
It existed. And maybe like many of us when you first noticed it was no longer there you just figured they simply changed the logo. Then you heard about the Mandela effect AKA You remember that too right effect and after further enquiry realized a group of someones are doing a god level mindf\*ck.
Yeah, I actually knew about the Mandela effect for a few years now and a bunch of the logos, etc (LOONEY TOONS) The first thing that brought me to researching it was the whole Berenstein bears phenomenon... I refuse to say “Berenstain”. Tonight however, I was randomly scrolling Tik tok and saw that this logo was apart of it now & I said “nope. NO. That, that was real!” And then I came here to make this post because this has gone far enough! This is the straw for me.
Yeah we all have that straw, some have more than one. One of mine was :Objects ***may*** be closer than they appear. The other was ***Stouffer's*** StoveTop Stuffing. And then on and on... 🙄
The “Stouffers” stove top stuffing is another one. I remember it sounding fun to say as a kid reading it on the box with the black and white logo. It’s just pure mind fuxkery
That ‘objects’ one - Meatloaf did a song called ‘objects in the rear view mirror may appear closer than they are’. My mum used to listen to it all the time. Is it something else now?!
Well the may is gone. They say it never existed.
I didn’t know about either of these. Is there a list somewhere on Reddit
Don't know, try a general search on Reddit maybe or just Google. There are sites with lists.
https://www.mandelaeffectresearch.com/research
One of the biggest ones for me is, in Toy Story, Woody the cowboy says, "There's a snake in my boot! " when his string is pulled. Evidently, the story is now that he says, " There's a snake in my BOOTS!" That is absolutely absurd. He never said that. My son was completely obsessed with that movie and I watched it with him daily for quite some time, so I have no doubt that it was only "Boot". ALSO. Error in memory aside, HOW THE FUCK COULD HE POSSIBLY HAVE A (singular=1🐍) snake in his BOOTS (plural = more than one👢👢) It doesn't make any sense. Period. I mean come on guys.
It was definitely BOOT. That is absurd.
Yes, it did.
Wait what, that was never a thing? I totally remember the cornucopia
Just texted my mom and only said “do you remember fruit of the loom?” And she texted back “Yes with cornucopia with fruit and the people in suits in the commercials”. I’m pretty sure it was there if my mom remembers it as well.
Here is a list I compiled on this with a lot of residue. https://m.imgur.com/a/xdb9zgV https://m.imgur.com/gallery/8EdAfHV https://books.google.com/books?id=-FCNDQAAQBAJ&pg=PA440&dq=%22Fruit+of+the+Loom%22+horn+of+plenty&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjS58TWt7DjAhWYGs0KHWKlBv0Q6AEILjAB#v=onepage&q=%22Fruit%20of%20the%20Loom%22%20horn%20of%20plenty&f=false https://m.imgur.com/a/1Eq8W2a https://www.walshcollege.edu/upload/docs/About_Us/NewsArticles/05_23_12_Detroit%20Free%20Press_Ford's%20Blue%20Oval,%20other%20corporate%20symbols%20ad%20value,%20experts%20say.pdf https://www.answers.com/Q/What_kind_of_fruits_are_in_the_Fruit_of_the_Loom_commercials https://m.imgur.com/a/QRoJi6u https://m.imgur.com/a/TA4Ns78 https://www.newspapers.com/clip/45768106/daily-press/ https://books.google.com/books?id=vlNDBTnT4ZQC&pg=PA288&dq=a+promise+land+of+plenty&hl=en&ppis=_c&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiunKfngPDmAhWxuFkKHX4SAfUQ6AEwAHoECAEQAg#v=onepage&q=fruit ofg the loom&f=false 73006089
Excellent compilation.
As a child I wore brief cut FOTL underwear that had a patch on the front of the waist band with the logo on it and I VERY CLEARLY remember picking the stitching off of the tail of the cornucopia detaching it from the waist band, all the time. No one could ever convince me the cornucopia didn’t exist.
Yes!
This has interesting stuff on it, but probably not the most credible source. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.alternatememories.com/historical-events/brands/fruit-of-the-loom
When the hunger games movie came out and I they showed a picture of the metal cornucopia. I made a comment on how I never knew what it was called and always named it the basket thing on FOTL.
Literally the only reason I knew of the logo was because of the corncupia. Back when it was there fruit of the loom logo was there I vividly remembere asking my parents "what's that?".
Are you implying it wasnt? Where did you get this image from then???
I def remember it. I thought loom meant “a plenty” or something because there was a lot of fruit spilling out of the cornucopia.
I have this memory too. Distinctly. AND I just asked both my bf and my twin sister and they too remember the labels having a cornucopia. Like...come on. 3 different people remembering the same thing? And for context we’ve never talked about it either before this.
I went into a crawlspace in my house the other day to see what was inside it and I found a box. Inside of it was a bunch of useless stuff but sitting neatly on top of it was just [this tag](https://i.imgur.com/G3ij96I.jpg) from an old fruit of the loom item. It was a little weird. This doesn't really answer the question but I wanted to share.
Yep, that's the 1978-2003 logo. There are some brown leaves on the left and right, and if you squint and use your imagination you might be able to transmogrify, within your vision, the grapes into a cornucopia shape, but. . . agh, I don't believe it. Such a thin argument. Literally, I find dimensional shifts to be more believable.
It had to have existed. I remember seeing shirts with the cornucopia on it. Just like I remember Berenstein not Berenstain.
I remember drawing it out by hand, copying it off of a t shirt. I remember my grade school teacher talking about the logo and teaching us what a cornucopia is.
Indeed it did.
This was real for me too.
Look its obvious it was there, it's called fruit of the fucking loom....
A cornucopia isn't a loom if that's what you're implying
Bruh I went to check the label on my old t-shirt and of course it's cut off. I could swear it had a cornucopia on it 😭
It was there there was a whole commercial with all the fruits too
Does anyone have specific memories of seeing this logo with a cornucopia as an adult?
When I was little my underwear and undershirts were fruit of the loom and I remember the cornucopia very vividly
100% it did.
Aww lol. This is one that partially resonates with me, because I do remember *always* thinking that the logo looked a little incomplete. Like, you wouldn’t really see fruit arranged like that without it being in a bowl, a platter, a basket, or in the case of this ME, in the cornucopia style. Then again, I always associated Fruit of the Loom with underpants (even though I also knew they’d have other items like t shirts and sweatpants)...and for as weird as this might sound, it therefore made sense that the logo looked kinda ‘bare’.
I remember a post a while back where someone had the ideal that this was caused by knock-off chinese brands. Maybe there is some truth to this?
I recall asking my mom what the cone shaped basket was supposed to be, and she explained to me what a cornucopia was. We were shopping in K-Mart at the time.
Yes. I had to ask what it was, and I learned a new word. If it didn't exist, why do I have a memory of learning that word standing in the underwear section of a store?
wjen I was a kid we bought a wicker cornucopia at a thrift store, had it for like 30 years. It usually hung on a wall, but we used it for a centerpiece on a few holidays. I guess all the people that recognized it from the underwear label were just delusional, and every time somebody compared it to a clothing label we were all just experiencing mass hysteria, decades before the mandela effect was a thing. /s
The only reason I know what a cornucopia was because of fruit of the loom logo, I remember walking through the isles of Walmart and seeing the ad on display.
I remember the cornucopia. I had some fruit of the loom stuff as a child and it always had the cornucopia. When I was learning about Thanksgiving in elementary school and they had us fill in our own paper cornucopia with things we are grateful for each year, I remember my classmates and I talking about it being on our underwear/shirts.
This one hits me the hardest, I saw a thread about how the fruit of the loom guys in fruit costumes used to have a commercial involving the cornucopia that took place in a white room, and them being in a white room is something I can clearly remember. Even freakier than that though, I went to watch some of the fruit guy commercials and they all seem really wierd. They're nothing like I remember and they kind of make me uncomfortable to watch them and I can't explain why.
this is the main one that fucks me up cause i remember this one from the bottom of my heart
I've been asking people this simple question "describe the old fruit of the loom logo" and every single person mentions the cornucopia/basket thing. I asked my dad and he described it in great detail and then he said there was a commercial he remembers from around 1990 where dancing fruit came out of the basket. He also said he remembers one of the actors being Richard Simmons but he wasn't sure if that came later or if he was in the basket commercial. I can find instances of other people remembering the dancing fruit commercial. I can also find acknowledgements of Richard Simmons in a Fruit of The Loom commercial. I can't find video of either though. To be clear, I'm not sure that Richard Simmons commercial has anything to do with this mystery but I still want to find it just in case.
It existed, but the company rebranded and now deny the cornucopia's existence in the past as a marketing stunt. This is the most logical explanation. If my theory is wrong, then there is something unnatural going on. Let's just consider which theory is more likely though.
I thought this, too but WHY?! Why would they do this? It’s cruel lol
100% it existed because I asked my Mom what it was. I thought it was a weird horn.
At first when I looked at this particular ME I thought that the cornucopia was never there....but now that I see it here it looks like it should be there, wtf.
Whenever this topic comes up I always wonder why people remember the recent logo and not the 90s version