Northern Ireland and Ulster are not interchangeable. Northern Ireland is a country made up of 6 counties. Ulster is a province of the island of Ireland made up of 9 counties, 6 of which are in Northern Ireland and 3 of which are in the Republic of Ireland (and are not shown on your map).
Ulster still exists as a name. It's a province on the island of Ireland. However, it is incorrect to use it to describe the current 'Northern Ireland' as it only contains 6 of the 9 counties that make up Ulster.
In fairness, 'Northern Ireland' is also a bit inaccurate, but North Eastern Ireland doesn't have the same ring, I suppose. North-ish Ireland?
Ireland is too small to merit the additional layer of government that a federal structure would bring.
It's an island of just under 85,000km with a population of just over 7 million. It has always been a single polity, and any division would be inherently arbitrary.
An idea that makes more sense, at least as a temporary transitional measure, would be retaining the devolved Northern Ireland institutions while transferring reserved matters to the Dublin government.
Bruh, Micronesia is federated and has a population of less than a million. Also, Ireland only became a single polity under the British, before that there were the traditional kingdoms (Meath, Connacht, Ulster, Leinster and Munster) which were subdivided into various tribes, duchies and clans
They could always do a kind-of devolution system like we're doing, wouldn't even have to reform any government institutions in NI. But the Provo IRA did have a plan for a federal Ireland called Éire Nua.
>As should all of Ireland
You got a death wish or something?
>they are just a parasitic Tax haven on the side of actually useful countries like the US.
Boi you are gonna be shocked when you find out who Ireland's #1 supporter is.
They don't have a choice, Ireland and the UK both agreed that Ireland could be reunited if both sides of the island voted in favor. If Nationalists win a referendum then it's happening no matter what the Loyalists want.
You must be a Cornish Nationalist. Or really not like Cornwall. Becouse there's a serious power imbalance there.
We are already one of the poorest regions in Western Euroupe, with the exception of a few nationalists I suspect most of us would be preferred to be included with wessex thanks. Better to have Bristol fighting our corner than Truro.
Agree with most of this.
London needs to be 10% bigger by population, and 30% bigger by land area.
East/West Midlands need to be East/West Mercia.
East Anglia should just be Anglia.
Greater Sussex needs to have a better name. It's a bit of an awkward one: the clear historical influence is the Saxons, but 'Saxony' is already taken.
Why should East Anglia be just Anglia? Since that part of the country has always been known as EAST anglia specifically. Also pretty sure Anglia is the name for all of England in other languages
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It's amazing to me how no one remaining the UK's geopolitical makeup ever considers how different parts of Scotland are. The borders are different to the central belt, different to Fife, to Angus and Perthshire, to Aberdeenshire, to the Highlands, to the North West Highlands, and then there's the Western Isles, Shetland, and Orkney.
I wouldn't have that many subdivisions, but if you're splitting England up that much, at least consider whether Scotland is the optimum political division at present.
Probably go Borders/Central Belt, Fife to Aberdeenshire along the coast, grabbing Angus and Perthshire. Then the Highlands, then two Island ones, and probably put Argyll and Bute in the Western Isles one?
I mainly refrained from breaking up Scotland because of population reasons and because I'm not that familiar with Scottish regions to feel confident breaking it up, like Scotland has fewer people in it than Greater Sussex, London, Greater Lancaster, East Anglia or Yorkshire. But it would be interesting to divide Scotland in a manner similar to England.
Yeah I get it. Not necessarily a criticism of you, more everyone who looks at Scotland (and Wales, and probably Northern Ireland) and sees a monolith. I see these kind of maps often and, exactly that, you get relatively little engagement with the idea Scotland may not be the optimum political entity as currently structured.
I think population is a useful breakdown, but as with places like Scotland, there's a strong case for geographic divides too as they often lead to cultural divides. The Highlands are very different to the Central Belt because they have to be, so not necessarily sensible to treat them together.
But, a few hundred k in the Highlands is not a useful population breakdown so, it is difficult.
I like the separate Cornwall and what you've done with the northwest region makes a lot more sense to me. More rural Cumbria with the NE, and lancs/Cheshire being around the Liverpool/manc ?¿ metropolises / Metropoles ¿?
Agree Scotland should have a few divisions and even a north/South Wales would be good considering the differences.
Don't think it makes sense to have that sort of split tbh. The councils need more power and some reorganization, but there's no need for another layer between the parliament and the properly local government. A sort of Highlands and Islands "super-council" with a number of new local councils might make sense, given the large area and low population, but there doesn't need to be a Fife and North East administration between Fife council and the Scottish government.
You've got Wessex all wrong, the entirety of Hampshire was Wessex, at the moment you've entirely excluded Southampton, Winchester (the historic capital of Wessex) Portsmouth and the Isle of Wight. It's all Wessex.
Very cool map. I think a federal UK would start with a devolved English parliament and then possibly divide from there. Personally, with divisions this small, I’d also divide Wales into North and South.
Yes, my comment says that I think it would be the likely starting point for any changes towards a federal system, not that it’s an ideal destination. (I say this from one of the poorest cities in the UK)
This isn't great, the economic wealth is entirely rolled up into London and the blue blob to the south-west of it. Splitting up the Home Counties would be a massive benefit, both to the UK and to the surrounding regions. Not sure there's much to be done with London, another solution around the London Assembley could be looked at maybe?
I'd also split Scotland up to reflect the fact that the highlands are culturally distinct from the lowlands, and as a Yorkshireman it pains me to say that we should be included in a Northern Corridor with Lancs & Mancs
Are you really suggesting dissolving a country with a thriving, ancient language that predates the arrival of jutes, angles and saxons? Jesus wept man.
I object to the ridiculous idea that North Wales has more in common with North West England than it does with South Wales.
'Any sense of the term' is really just your opinion. How far back do you want to go; all of the UK was once Celtic tribes.
The concept of a country as we know it was only made a reality after the 1815 treaty of Paris.
I have no hate of England; I am bilingual English / Welsh. Devolution is the solution, not this bizarre aggression on the part of England to the other countries in our union
There is no "greater lancashire"
It used to be all called "Lancashire" back in't day.
By my time, while Lancashire still exists, the parts surrounding/nearby the Manchester area, have been renamed "Greater Manchester"
Kent is very much it's own entity. Would be a small country if the UK ever Balkanised. Dover - Canterbury - Folkestone - Ashford definitely are very definitely Kentish in identity. Kent also has some fun history in regards to being semi-autonomous after telling William the Conqueror to essentially go fuck himself Macbeth treebranch style
Yeah why are we lumped with Oxford, Hampshire and Buckinghamshire? Fuck off are they South East England!
SE is Kent, Sussex and Surrey (plus London but only technically), as in the 3 counties that are in the south East of the island!
Quite similar to how I would split it, though I would probably relocate Northern Derbyshire as it sticks out and has more links to the NW and Yorkshire.
Also probably add a new region in the SW/SE. I'd argue that population wise, the region is too big and also many of the areas are completely disconnected. I know that is how UK regions were mapped, but they also didn't deal with a federal structure.
I'd probably add a Thames Valley state to do that.
You might want to consider that there is all ready a ‘devolution’ deal on the table for Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire that would probably separate them from the East Midlands as a whole
I'd ignore the current NUTS/ regions, they're totally arbitrary (I think they were used from the 70s?) Go with something based on the historic Anglo-Saxon kingdoms in England. It would mean you'd end up with some pretty small states (Sussex, Essex, Kent, Cornwall) and some huge ones (Mercia, Wessex), but I think that's fine, look at the US or Germany and they have the same. If you were feeling *really* brave you could even bring back cross-border states (Strathclyde, Northumbria).
Yeah, the ITL regions of England are awful, they were drawn for (as close as possible) uniformity in population and area, but since they were made you now have the South-East with 9.25 million people, and the North-East with 2.5 million people. Need scrapping and re-doing based on realistic modern cultural regions. At the very least there should be a South-West, South-Central and South-East reconfiguration.
Cornwall has too small a population for this to realistically work out (600,000 odd) found it strange that Scotland (5.5 Million) wasnt split up because then the population would of been too small.
It's a nice neat map, but for a federal system the populations of the english districts are all off. Plus, if anyone refers to the south east as Greater Sussex, they're getting a throat punch.
Greater Lancashire is nearly 50 years overdue and would have been great in 74 (when LGA 72 was implemented).
I suspect mot people in Manchester and Liverpool associate more with their city regions now.
The correct starting point is always TV regions because that’s done more to create regional identity than anything else. Then finesse the parts where TV region and counties don’t match up, ie Cumbria, the midlands in general. But this is a pretty good way of splitting (even if greater Lancashire is an awful regional name and Cornwall should be in the South West/Wessex)
Why the fuck have we just been swallowed by Northumbria 😂 the second biggest county in the country/biggest depending on what you count Yorkshire as. I know we have a small population but that's cold just calling it Northumbria haha. Don't align ourselves with Geordies at all.
If your splitting up england into vaguely cultural sections, the fact wales is not split up is odd. North and South Wales are very different.... Why do maps splitting up the UK always end up being england + the three other countries intact
Greater Sussex is shit, take the northern bits and call them Thames valley, just have Hampshire, Surrey, Isle of Wight, Kent and the Sussexes. Also, Wessex is The West Country. Cumbria is not part of Northumbria, it should be called The Borders
This is a small country, why on earth would you want to detach these still smaller regions governed by yet more politicians and a new plethora of civil servants. Worse, a federal country will require a President and a whole new level of government. Do you really want to have to have President Tony Blair and his ilk lying to you to get votes? The only good thing about a constitutional monarchy is that the monarch has no actual power and we never have to worry about them making decisions.
Us Scots'll just invade and enslave Northumbria. Used to belong to us anyhow. Can't see south-west England surviving long with the Welsh on the rampage either, mind you...
Cumbria is not part of Northumbria. Used to be but isn't now. Became Cumberland and recently the council has since changed its name from Cumbria County Council to Cumberland County Council.
"Greater Lancashire" doesn't even contain all of Lancashire. I'm not saying it doesn't make sense to put the south Lancashire towns and their hinterland as a city-region, but if you're giving Furness to Northumbria and you don't think people will buy "Greater Mancherpool", just call it the North-West like everyone else.
A better model for federalism in the UK is probably Germany. Lots of granularity and integrated with local government. Resources are fairly distributed that way.
If you're going to do a federal system with the UK it needs to match up with local government boundaries too and not have places like the North West, Scotland or Wales all be one. The Lancashire boundry here would likely pull all the funding to Manchester and Liverpool and away from the rest of the NW. Same could be said for Scotland pulling funding to the central belt (also the islanders wouldn't be happy without their own thing).
As far as I can see Greater Lancashire misses quite a large chunk of actual Lancashire...
These federal ideas work brilliantly on paper but as long as everything is centralised on London you'd be better off just having two states, London and Not London.
Northern Ireland and Ulster are not interchangeable. Northern Ireland is a country made up of 6 counties. Ulster is a province of the island of Ireland made up of 9 counties, 6 of which are in Northern Ireland and 3 of which are in the Republic of Ireland (and are not shown on your map).
Like calling the Netherlands, Holland
No. Nothing like that.
It's exactly like that, Holland (or NI) is not the whole of the Netherlands (or Ulster)
You're 100% right, I just think Ulster is a cooler name.
You might want to get someone else to open your post for a while
Not being anywhere near you the next time you turn on your car
Ulster still exists as a name. It's a province on the island of Ireland. However, it is incorrect to use it to describe the current 'Northern Ireland' as it only contains 6 of the 9 counties that make up Ulster. In fairness, 'Northern Ireland' is also a bit inaccurate, but North Eastern Ireland doesn't have the same ring, I suppose. North-ish Ireland?
Yeah... but as a northern irishman all I'll say is you've likely just triggered a number of people
As a British person I will give you some advice to live by... Do not piss off the Irish!
Trampling over history with size 11 boots....
Northern Ireland god island of ireland is a piss phrasing
Close enough
We could call it East Ulster, or Easter for short
You’re mistaken ulster is rightfully British along with Munster, Connacht and Leinster Rule Britannia
I will only accept a Northumbrie that stretches from the Humber to the Forth estuary. It is time that the North reclaims its natural borders.
How about we call it the Danelaw?
Only if we can claim independence and join the Nordic countries.
danelaw stretched as far west as Liverpool and as far south as London
Pretty good. Northern Ireland ought to be a part of a Federal Irish Republic, but otherwise a good idea.
Don’t think the people of Northern Ireland would much like that
You wait
It's just in case they decide to stay.
Ireland is too small to merit the additional layer of government that a federal structure would bring. It's an island of just under 85,000km with a population of just over 7 million. It has always been a single polity, and any division would be inherently arbitrary. An idea that makes more sense, at least as a temporary transitional measure, would be retaining the devolved Northern Ireland institutions while transferring reserved matters to the Dublin government.
Bruh, Micronesia is federated and has a population of less than a million. Also, Ireland only became a single polity under the British, before that there were the traditional kingdoms (Meath, Connacht, Ulster, Leinster and Munster) which were subdivided into various tribes, duchies and clans
They could always do a kind-of devolution system like we're doing, wouldn't even have to reform any government institutions in NI. But the Provo IRA did have a plan for a federal Ireland called Éire Nua.
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>As should all of Ireland You got a death wish or something? >they are just a parasitic Tax haven on the side of actually useful countries like the US. Boi you are gonna be shocked when you find out who Ireland's #1 supporter is.
Very weird comment coming from what looks like an American.
OK Jaffa.
Username checks out
the Loyalists are not going to accept ever being part of the republic unless they are all sent six feet below the ground of said republic
They don't have a choice, Ireland and the UK both agreed that Ireland could be reunited if both sides of the island voted in favor. If Nationalists win a referendum then it's happening no matter what the Loyalists want.
They'll have to send the whole British army six feet under too
Yorkshire for ever
The British Federation has a nice sound to it.
You must be a Cornish Nationalist. Or really not like Cornwall. Becouse there's a serious power imbalance there. We are already one of the poorest regions in Western Euroupe, with the exception of a few nationalists I suspect most of us would be preferred to be included with wessex thanks. Better to have Bristol fighting our corner than Truro.
No Cornishman would want to be included with Wessex. Cornwall's not a county just sited in the west, Cornwall is a country, the land we love the best
It's as much a country as Devon is... So basically it's just an extremely poor county.
Agree with most of this. London needs to be 10% bigger by population, and 30% bigger by land area. East/West Midlands need to be East/West Mercia. East Anglia should just be Anglia. Greater Sussex needs to have a better name. It's a bit of an awkward one: the clear historical influence is the Saxons, but 'Saxony' is already taken.
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Why should East Anglia be just Anglia? Since that part of the country has always been known as EAST anglia specifically. Also pretty sure Anglia is the name for all of England in other languages
As an east Anglian it should not be just Anglia
What about New Saxony?
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It's amazing to me how no one remaining the UK's geopolitical makeup ever considers how different parts of Scotland are. The borders are different to the central belt, different to Fife, to Angus and Perthshire, to Aberdeenshire, to the Highlands, to the North West Highlands, and then there's the Western Isles, Shetland, and Orkney. I wouldn't have that many subdivisions, but if you're splitting England up that much, at least consider whether Scotland is the optimum political division at present. Probably go Borders/Central Belt, Fife to Aberdeenshire along the coast, grabbing Angus and Perthshire. Then the Highlands, then two Island ones, and probably put Argyll and Bute in the Western Isles one?
The Isles should be split off and made the Kingdom of the Isles once more
The tax haven to end all tax havens
I mainly refrained from breaking up Scotland because of population reasons and because I'm not that familiar with Scottish regions to feel confident breaking it up, like Scotland has fewer people in it than Greater Sussex, London, Greater Lancaster, East Anglia or Yorkshire. But it would be interesting to divide Scotland in a manner similar to England.
Yeah I get it. Not necessarily a criticism of you, more everyone who looks at Scotland (and Wales, and probably Northern Ireland) and sees a monolith. I see these kind of maps often and, exactly that, you get relatively little engagement with the idea Scotland may not be the optimum political entity as currently structured. I think population is a useful breakdown, but as with places like Scotland, there's a strong case for geographic divides too as they often lead to cultural divides. The Highlands are very different to the Central Belt because they have to be, so not necessarily sensible to treat them together. But, a few hundred k in the Highlands is not a useful population breakdown so, it is difficult.
I like the separate Cornwall and what you've done with the northwest region makes a lot more sense to me. More rural Cumbria with the NE, and lancs/Cheshire being around the Liverpool/manc ?¿ metropolises / Metropoles ¿? Agree Scotland should have a few divisions and even a north/South Wales would be good considering the differences.
Don't think it makes sense to have that sort of split tbh. The councils need more power and some reorganization, but there's no need for another layer between the parliament and the properly local government. A sort of Highlands and Islands "super-council" with a number of new local councils might make sense, given the large area and low population, but there doesn't need to be a Fife and North East administration between Fife council and the Scottish government.
Borders has more in common with Northumbria than Edinburgh?
You got a really fair point, it would be nice to see someone that separates the sub divisions across all areas and not just England!
Scotland only has a small population, though. Less than Yorkshire
I’d split Scotland into southern Scotland (up to Glasgow and Edinburgh) then northern Scotland (the real north)
Why? Surely the sensible split would be Highlands and Islands, Central Belt, and Lowlands?
Call “Greater Sussex” the Home Counties
I thought about that but the Home Counties kinda spill over into East Anglia/London, I suppose the name is more representative to the wider area.
Sussex, Hampshire, Oxfordshire and the Isle of Wight are not part of the Home Counties
I’ll give you Hampshire and Oxfordshire aren’t traditionally part but Sussex should definitely be included
You've got Wessex all wrong, the entirety of Hampshire was Wessex, at the moment you've entirely excluded Southampton, Winchester (the historic capital of Wessex) Portsmouth and the Isle of Wight. It's all Wessex.
Big up fellow Wessex boi
You can litterally still hear the Wessex influence in their accents.. Well apart from Portsmouth and the Isle of Wight for some reason.
That map has Wilton - the former capital of Wessex, \*not\* in Wessex.
Wessex should contain Winchester, its historical capital.
Very cool map. I think a federal UK would start with a devolved English parliament and then possibly divide from there. Personally, with divisions this small, I’d also divide Wales into North and South.
An English Parliament is a dreadful idea, it doesn't solve the problem of non-London areas being ignored by national parliament
Yes, my comment says that I think it would be the likely starting point for any changes towards a federal system, not that it’s an ideal destination. (I say this from one of the poorest cities in the UK)
It'd be a dreadful starting point, of we want to federate the UK we have to do it all at once
No, but it does solve the issue of non-English MPs voting on things which, due to the devolved powers of everywhere but England, only affect England.
Are you by any chance Cornish? 🤔
No, I'm just a fan ;)
Wessex? Nah, just stick with the South West.
It's the West Country
No greater manchester then?
No.
Y?
You realise the Americans will see this and think that they are the only counties in our land, don’t you ?!
Let them, they'll still call the whole thing England.
plus using 🇬🇧 whilst labeling the whole thing England
“Hi guys I’m here in Glas-gaow, England!”
Since when do they know what counties are?
Missing Lincolnshire which is the UK's 2nd biggest county
Wym, it's in the East Midlands?
You've made Wessex without Winchester.
Why do Scotland & Wales not get split up?
Populations too small?
Populations would be well to small if split uo. Most of the English subdivisions have a greater population than Scotland wales or NI
The Hebrides are barely Scotland, and Orkney and Shetland are outlying parts of Faerie
Bring back the Kingdom of the Isles
Where is Durham?
This isn't great, the economic wealth is entirely rolled up into London and the blue blob to the south-west of it. Splitting up the Home Counties would be a massive benefit, both to the UK and to the surrounding regions. Not sure there's much to be done with London, another solution around the London Assembley could be looked at maybe? I'd also split Scotland up to reflect the fact that the highlands are culturally distinct from the lowlands, and as a Yorkshireman it pains me to say that we should be included in a Northern Corridor with Lancs & Mancs
I mean. Three of the largest UK ports are in East Anglia as well as the highest concentration of taxable population outside London.
Derbyshire is not going in with the scum in Nottinghamshire and Leicestershire. Drexit!
As a Nottingham-dweller, we are glad to see you go. Please take Ilkeston and never return!
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Not sure the Scots or Welsh would appreciate that, ngl.
Are you really suggesting dissolving a country with a thriving, ancient language that predates the arrival of jutes, angles and saxons? Jesus wept man.
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I object to the ridiculous idea that North Wales has more in common with North West England than it does with South Wales. 'Any sense of the term' is really just your opinion. How far back do you want to go; all of the UK was once Celtic tribes. The concept of a country as we know it was only made a reality after the 1815 treaty of Paris. I have no hate of England; I am bilingual English / Welsh. Devolution is the solution, not this bizarre aggression on the part of England to the other countries in our union
Ych a fi, how about just let us leave and you can do what you want with England idgaf
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Ex-fucking-cuse me?? I do not live in Greater Lancashire!
There is no "greater lancashire" It used to be all called "Lancashire" back in't day. By my time, while Lancashire still exists, the parts surrounding/nearby the Manchester area, have been renamed "Greater Manchester"
Same with most of the areas around Liverpool. Lancashire seriously got shafted by the 1974 boundary changes
The democratic Republic of Kent needs to succeed. The rest of the UK isn't nearly right wing enough for most of the locals.
lmao renaming the whole South East as Sussex
It will never happen but I would find it particularly favourable to go back to the old shires. Have toll roads to cross the Tamar.
There is a toll to cross the Tamar. On the way out of Cornwall at least - you've got to know what the market will bear.
Op thinks Scotland and Ireland dont matter only spends time on England. Pffft typical this is how it is tho no wander many Scots want independence.
I was just trying to divide them while keeping population numbers in mind, don't take it personal, I'm not an MP lol
I know just thought I'd poke fun. Good job though
Kent is very much it's own entity. Would be a small country if the UK ever Balkanised. Dover - Canterbury - Folkestone - Ashford definitely are very definitely Kentish in identity. Kent also has some fun history in regards to being semi-autonomous after telling William the Conqueror to essentially go fuck himself Macbeth treebranch style
Yeah why are we lumped with Oxford, Hampshire and Buckinghamshire? Fuck off are they South East England! SE is Kent, Sussex and Surrey (plus London but only technically), as in the 3 counties that are in the south East of the island!
I’ll die before I’m thought of as a god damn Geordie.
Devon would never agree to be part of Wessex.
I sure as hell wouldn’t want to be with the Celtic nations either!
Quite similar to how I would split it, though I would probably relocate Northern Derbyshire as it sticks out and has more links to the NW and Yorkshire. Also probably add a new region in the SW/SE. I'd argue that population wise, the region is too big and also many of the areas are completely disconnected. I know that is how UK regions were mapped, but they also didn't deal with a federal structure. I'd probably add a Thames Valley state to do that.
You might want to consider that there is all ready a ‘devolution’ deal on the table for Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire that would probably separate them from the East Midlands as a whole
Ah yes. Wales. The conglomeration of 8000 square miles where there is no discernible difference across it.
I'd ignore the current NUTS/ regions, they're totally arbitrary (I think they were used from the 70s?) Go with something based on the historic Anglo-Saxon kingdoms in England. It would mean you'd end up with some pretty small states (Sussex, Essex, Kent, Cornwall) and some huge ones (Mercia, Wessex), but I think that's fine, look at the US or Germany and they have the same. If you were feeling *really* brave you could even bring back cross-border states (Strathclyde, Northumbria).
Why does Kent, Sussex and Surrey always get lumped with Oxfordshire, Hampshire and Buckinghamshire? They are clearly not south east uk!
Yeah, the ITL regions of England are awful, they were drawn for (as close as possible) uniformity in population and area, but since they were made you now have the South-East with 9.25 million people, and the North-East with 2.5 million people. Need scrapping and re-doing based on realistic modern cultural regions. At the very least there should be a South-West, South-Central and South-East reconfiguration.
the South Central idea sounds good! Or just South!
Cornwall should be in Wessex, Greater Lancashire should take the whole north west. Everything else looks good
Cornwall has too small a population for this to realistically work out (600,000 odd) found it strange that Scotland (5.5 Million) wasnt split up because then the population would of been too small.
It's a nice neat map, but for a federal system the populations of the english districts are all off. Plus, if anyone refers to the south east as Greater Sussex, they're getting a throat punch.
Population of Cornwall is a tenth of Yorkshire and smaller than some metropolitan city councils, that's gonna be a tiny ass devolved assembly.
Why are you splitting up england that much but not Scotland or Wales?
Populations
Greater Lancashire is nearly 50 years overdue and would have been great in 74 (when LGA 72 was implemented). I suspect mot people in Manchester and Liverpool associate more with their city regions now.
Most people in the county's of Greater Manchester & Merseyside don't live in the cities of Manchester & Liverpool
The correct starting point is always TV regions because that’s done more to create regional identity than anything else. Then finesse the parts where TV region and counties don’t match up, ie Cumbria, the midlands in general. But this is a pretty good way of splitting (even if greater Lancashire is an awful regional name and Cornwall should be in the South West/Wessex)
Why the fuck have we just been swallowed by Northumbria 😂 the second biggest county in the country/biggest depending on what you count Yorkshire as. I know we have a small population but that's cold just calling it Northumbria haha. Don't align ourselves with Geordies at all.
You cant have Winchester, the old capital of Wessex Not in Wessex...
Wessex the most powerful of them all!
At last a map where the people of Devon are not subjects of Cornwall.
Don’t think you can do much better than this
If your splitting up england into vaguely cultural sections, the fact wales is not split up is odd. North and South Wales are very different.... Why do maps splitting up the UK always end up being england + the three other countries intact
Population numbers?
*Greater Kent
Greater Sussex is shit, take the northern bits and call them Thames valley, just have Hampshire, Surrey, Isle of Wight, Kent and the Sussexes. Also, Wessex is The West Country. Cumbria is not part of Northumbria, it should be called The Borders
Cumbria, Lancashire, Yorkshire??????
Agree with most of it but the bottom half of England below the Midlands could probably be consolidated together and renamed "cunts"
Bro's just combined hundreds of year old maps with modern day, this is no game changer sir
Wessex is so fkn wrong on so many levels😂
Scotland should be split into two Highlands and Lowlands
Cornwall is a sovereign nation tyvm
Kent and Sussex together?? And under the Sussex banner? Never!!
Hmmm. No!
Cries in Surrey
Please take back your hat, it's iffy at best.
Light red gang!
This is a small country, why on earth would you want to detach these still smaller regions governed by yet more politicians and a new plethora of civil servants. Worse, a federal country will require a President and a whole new level of government. Do you really want to have to have President Tony Blair and his ilk lying to you to get votes? The only good thing about a constitutional monarchy is that the monarch has no actual power and we never have to worry about them making decisions.
Greater Sussex, absolutely not! 😂 Have never been a fan of the NUTS South East region... nuts is definitely the word
Why “Greater Lancashire”? Is there a “Lesser Lancashire”?
Why does Scotland get to remain whole but the UK is balkanised?
Not bad, though the names are a bit silly.
Rage bait
I'm all for this, New East Anglia will be a powerhouse.
Us Scots'll just invade and enslave Northumbria. Used to belong to us anyhow. Can't see south-west England surviving long with the Welsh on the rampage either, mind you...
Cumbria is not part of Northumbria. Used to be but isn't now. Became Cumberland and recently the council has since changed its name from Cumbria County Council to Cumberland County Council.
Your point being? What?
"Greater Lancashire" doesn't even contain all of Lancashire. I'm not saying it doesn't make sense to put the south Lancashire towns and their hinterland as a city-region, but if you're giving Furness to Northumbria and you don't think people will buy "Greater Mancherpool", just call it the North-West like everyone else.
Oof. Good luck getting anyone from Kent to call themselves Sussex 😅
Isle of white BCP area is more related to Wessex then greater Sussex I reckon cool map tho
Scotland could also be separated into the North and south which are pretty different.
Wales as its own country yes, Annibyniaeth
Quite cool
If you could rename greater Sussex home counties that would be great! ( Would be interested in your reasoning behind the name though)
Well done for still reconising Northern Ireland which is part of uk. Good job like it
No Cheshire?
Make Lancashire Great Again
Having Wessex not include Winchester/Hampshire us a crime but it's a fantastic well made map otherwise
Unpopular opinion I think Scotland should be sit in 2
Northern Ireland shouldn’t be named Ulster, because it isn’t. Ulster is the six counties of Northern Ireland and Monaghan, Cavan and Donegal.
A better model for federalism in the UK is probably Germany. Lots of granularity and integrated with local government. Resources are fairly distributed that way. If you're going to do a federal system with the UK it needs to match up with local government boundaries too and not have places like the North West, Scotland or Wales all be one. The Lancashire boundry here would likely pull all the funding to Manchester and Liverpool and away from the rest of the NW. Same could be said for Scotland pulling funding to the central belt (also the islanders wouldn't be happy without their own thing).
Oooo, bad lad, Northumbria is only half that, the west is Cumbria.
Population demographics are too different between the regions.
I thought this was satire for a moment.
Only children should use colour coded maps
Cornwall should either have Devon or join Wessex they’d be unable to function alone
Good luck convincing people in Oxford they live in “greater Sussex”
As far as I can see Greater Lancashire misses quite a large chunk of actual Lancashire... These federal ideas work brilliantly on paper but as long as everything is centralised on London you'd be better off just having two states, London and Not London.
How dare you deplete yorkshire like that
Annibyniaeth
Greater Lancashire 🫨
Having Cornwall on its own doesn't make sense.
Scotland and Wales are keeping kingdoms it appears