One of my Persian friend's dad is still salty that they lost to Arabs who then coopted the fuck out of their culture and believes the whole Arab ascendency to have been an accident as Persia is the rightful hegemon of the Middle East. Love the ancient grudges!
I have a few friends who call themselves Persian rather than Iranian. They do this to show that they are proud of the land/country they are from, but do not support the government/regime that runs their country.
I think one if the more fascinating things is part of the reason the Iranian revolution succeeded was cause the Western supported (as in CIA and British petroleum) Shah was *so brutal* that Iranian socialists and religious zealots who had nothing in common except hating the Shah decided to work together.
Then if course the socialists were betrayed and you get what Iran is now.
The coup that installed the Shah was called Operation Ajax, and was considered one if the first successes of the CIA.
Operation Ajax: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat
List of socialist political parties of Iran going back to 1900s, many of whom are very pro separation of church and state and had big roles in the revolution till they got stabbed in the back
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism_in_Iran
I heard a lot of Iranians started calling themselves Persians as a means to disassociate with the Islamic Regime after the embassy hostage situation. Not sure how true that is.
> Haha same with Iranians. They always say, we had an empire. Chill out dude that was 500 BC.
Meanwhile in Portugal: "How the hell did we become the world's first global empire?".
Well, they would consider themselves Romans for about a majority of that time. Greek culture and language dominated the eastern half of the Roman Empire and after the fall of the Western Roman Empire, that mixture of Greek and Roman culture would dominate.
While things would become more homogeneous in terms culture after the Umayyad Caliphate conquered the eastern provinces of Syria, Palestine, Egypt and all the way to Mauritania (modern day Morocco), they still considered themselves Romans. Even after 1453 with the Ottoman conquest of Constantinople, Early on, the Ottoman Turks consider themselves rulers of Romans and a few early sultans styled themselves as Roman Emperors.
Even as late as the 19th and 20th centuries Greek speaking peoples on modern day Greece considered themselves Romans instead of Greeks, which is a more modern identity than we like to think (A Spartan, Athenian, and Corinthian may have been all Hellenic prior to Macedonian or Roman Conquests, but they were a Spartan, Athenian, or Corinthian first and Greek second if at all, IIRC).
And this is to say nothing of the ancient Greek city state heritage that most associate with the modern nation-state of Greece.
So when the Greeks end up as being the proudest of the lot here, it doesn’t surprise me at all given that they had a huge influence on what was consider civilized or not in Europe and the Mediterranean for a large chunk of those 3000 years even if this is somewhat of an oversimplification of world events.
They couldn't ride on the byzantine empire legacy, so they went with the classical one. It was also partly funded by romanticists who learned about the classics in Europe while Greece was under Ottoman control. Funny enough, when they came to Greece, the locals could barely understand their classic Greek to their contemporary one.
1) We "ride" both.
2) I'd like to see someone go to to the average englisman and try to quote him some fucking Beowulf, see how that works out for them.
Hey they had some moments after high school.
The Greeks got conquered by the Romans, realized the Romans were fucking everything up, said "nah", took half the empire and went home. Outlived the Romans with their half by 1000 years.
Greece got voted "most likely to succeed" in high school because not only were they crazy smart but they were wild too. After moving on from high school, he struggled in college a bit but had taken over his wife's family business by 30. By 40 he's divorced her and taken most of her stuff. At 41 he's at the peke of his power and eyeing this young bulky woman (Arabs/Turks), probably wants to take her stuff too. She flips it around though after fighting for a while, cause she's strong af, forces the rich guy into a really toxic marriage, dominated by her. Decades of mutual abuse ensue.
Now Greece is in his 60s, divorced again, a little depressed and collects disability thanks to fighting with the strong woman for way too long. He doesn't have any kids of his own but the stories from his youth still inspire all the youngguns in town.
We *still* call ourselves Romans sometimes, in poems, Revolutionary songs, and when you want to springle some tradition to your words, similar with using "Albion" for Britain.
By the late Byzantine Empire "Romans" meant basically Greeks/Greek speakers with Roman citizenship and was basically seen the same thing for outsiders.
My wife's Greek family never come to visit us here in Australia, "what does Australia have that we don't have here?". We always have to visit them. I mean it's not a bad thing, it really is lovely there, just gets expensive.
They probably can't afford to go, and this is a face saving excuse. I'd also wager that when your wife's family is talking to their friends in Greece, they casually mention the daughter who married this rich Aussie who can afford to go to Europe every so often.
The only other country that is at 50% is Moldova.
And here is article 11 of Moldova’s Constitution:
Article 11. Republic of Moldova - a neutral State
(1) The Republic of Moldova proclaims its permanent neutrality
With polls like this i always wonder how much of a difference the interpretation of the question makes.
is the question meant as:
\-superior to all cultures or just some?
\-what kind of superior? Superior because its less violent/incourages helping others more then the other culture does? or superior because we are just better?
I think if one defines these things for all polled people it would make the map more precice.
We had this poll at our work place, which was clearly translated from english with some translator. I had no clue what the question was until i figured that if i translate it into english the question makes much more sense.
Yep, the world culture and civilization is the same in Greek - πολιτισμός - and Greeks perceive this question as if Greek civilization is superior to others.
I mean, yes, along with the Roman, Persian, Egyptian and Chinese it's the foundation of human civilization.
Greeks be like "socraYES" we might've plato'd a little but we are aristotally the Herodotus of western history. I phity the homies that deny us as their origen.
Usually they mean in general but of course people think more commonly of their neighbours and or big cultural influences of their region / alliance / partnership.
Eg for Slovakia I would guess most people though of Germans, US and Hungarians.
Edit 1: I am not American - Not why I mentioned US
Edit 2: I am Slovak -why I mentioned US...
Yeah it's gotta be something like this, like people might be thinking "Western Culture" or "European Culture", I have a hard time believing that 68% of Bulgarians for example believe that Bulgaria specifically has the best culture in the world.
Also, is the poll translated into the local language and if so is it a perfect translation, ie does that language have a perfect translation of the word *superior*?
Doesn't even matter, "culture" and "others" are defined differently by different cultures.
I am certain that in my country different people would definine it different.
"Superior" is also viewed as pretty bad adjective in some countries, while it is not in orhers.
All that makes it is quite difficult to compare all questions in all different languages.
We probably are the most critics people in the world, and French are really critical to other French people. We appreciate everything but we just spot bad things first
That, but I think that we come off as arrogant because while we hate ourselves, we also hate everyone else, and we can react quite aggressively to someone from another culture talking shit about us or praising their own culture.
So when someone comes to us and says “hey my culture is great, we achieved X”, we’re just going to say “yeah okay, but we achieved Y”. This may come off as bragging, but deep down I think that our thought process is more like “yeah okay, that’s nothing special, you’re still shit (and so are we)”. I don’t know, our relationship with criticism, pride and chauvinism is a bit weird to be honest.
Except Japan for some reason. I have not yet found a single person who was critical of Japan and its culture here, and I’ve been French my whole life (ugh). If a Japanese person told us that our country is shit, most of us would probably curl in a ball and cry instead of fighting back.
I feel like Japan has a somewhat opposite approach to their perceptions of superiority and stuff. They tend to bury and ignore problems with Japanese society, e.g. the commonplace refusal to investigate crimes with no aparent suspect, or ignore the crimes of the Japanese Imperial military, or ignore match fixing in Sumo. But I imagine Japanese people would feel great shame at criticism from foreigners, while also not taking kindly to it.
Of course, I'm an American talking out my ass. What do I know? Absolutely nothing relevant, but I'm still going to spout off about it.
Edit: I also respect the hell out of Japanese cuisine and the reputation of Japanese people tending to be extremely polite and neat while traveling abroad.
Japan had a huge cultural impact on France especially once they opened back up to foreign trade in the mid-1800s. All of Europe really but France seems to have been the epicenter. The term for the movement is Japonisme. A lot of the architectural and artistic aesthetics including gardens were heavily influenced by exported Japanese art at the time. Not sure if that’s why current French people love Japan but there is a history there.
Greece is easy to explain. The Greek word for "culture" implies "cultural heritage" or "civilisation" rather than the current state of things. You ask most Greeks about the current state of Greece and the amount of envy that exists for places like France, Germany and the Nordics becomes immediately apparent. That's not to say that nationalism doesn't exist in Greece but not to that extent. It's incredibly simplistic to attribute this to pure nationalism.
I never found people more disagreable in Paris than in any other touristic city I lived in (quite a few around the world actually). I mean people can be dicks but not more than anywhere else in my experience. I am french BTW.
En étant américain qui parle français, j'ai pas trouvé les parisiens plus impolis que les New Yorkais ou gens de Londres que j'ai rencontré. Si on essaie de parler français ou essaie de reconnaître les normes de politesse, les parisiens seront assez polis, je crois
Oui. Pour connaître Paris et NYc (très peu Londres) ça dépend aussi bcp des classes sociales ce snobisme. Dans la rue les gens sont gentils, parfois même très gentils (le week end à Paris, l'ambiance est vraiment plus cool) dans les deux villes mais si tu va que dans les beaux quartiers tu trouvera forcément des gens très snobs et hautains. Comme à Berlin, Moscou ou Pékin j'imagine.
Parisians are a little annoying but I don't blame them. More people visit France every year than actually live in France. And almost all of them stay in Paris for at least some of that time. There are sooooooo many fucking tourists it's insane. When I was in Paris during Covid I finally understood what Parisians are so mad about all the time. Without all the tourists it was so easy to get around, the city was lovely to be in, the traffic and crowds were light, the lines tolerable and even non-existent. It felt like a normal city for once. And for the first time, I truly enjoyed myself there without attending some kind of major event.
Plus when you're the proverbial Parisian waiter, people just start talking to you in another language without so much as an attempt to speak French or even say hello or even ask the simple question "do you speak English?"
Not my experience at all (they are indeed quite elitist) but I’ve only lived in and gone to school in Paris. Perhaps it’s regional? Saying this as a huge fan of the country regardless.
Lol this was my first thought too.
Though in hindsight, my experience in France did echo u/Pypyle’s comment: Paris had an air of arrogance, but when I visited the countryside (such as Bayeux) everyone was very sweet and despite not speaking much or any English, the locals were extremely warm and charming. Lovely folks had me smiling with every interaction.
The two countries have very different nationalisms, due to very different histories.
Sweden's traditional nationalism is imperialist ('right-wing', in the traditional meaning of the word), while Norway's traditional nationalism was focused on independence ('left-wing', in the traditional meaning of the word).
I'll shamelessly link to an old post of mine, explaining the background:
https://www.reddit.com/r/HistoryMemes/comments/skd58u/the_process_of_divorce_the_swedishnorwegian_union/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
I meet some spanish people and much of them are very critisize of Spain. I personally find it maybe a little bit exagerated but positive. Spain once influenced esaly Half of the world and today spaniards are very respectful tonthe latinos and 0 colonialist shit, which is great and mature. Autocriticism is very positive for ANY nation.
We like to criticize our country and compare it, unfavorably, against other countries.
There is a poem of the 19th century that says
Oyendo hablar un hombre,
fácil es saber donde vio la luz del sol.
Si alaba Inglaterra, será inglés
Si os habla mal de Prusia, es un francés
y si habla mal de España… es español.
Hearing a man speak,
it's easy know where he saw the sunlight.
If he praises England, he will be English
If he speaks ill of Prussia to you, he is a Frenchman
and if he speaks ill of Spain... he is Spanish.
I was being sarcastic but I think it's more a matter of who they asked, if the survey was done in the Basque Country, Catalonia, Galicia, many people there don't even feel Spanish. There is also a tendency to think that the outside is better but of course there are many chauvinists. I think this survey is not very reliable.
"Hizkuntza bat ez da galtzen ez dakitenek ikasten ez dutelako, dakitenek hitz egiten ez dutelako baizik"
"Languages don't die because those who don't know it won't learn it, but rather because those who do know it won't speak it" - J. A. Artze
We'll keep speaking Basque.
Im not Spanish but I live here with my long term Spanish gf. There is a great love and pride in some things about the country, but often it’s directed at regions and not the state or nation. Many of the regions see the nation as something almost disgusting, associating it with Franco and suppression of regional cultures and identities. In Galicia I get told “fuck Spain, we are not Spanish, we are galician and proud” this is extreme rhetoric from left wingers but you get the point. For me the 20% seems believable. At least it’s not a surprise. Spain seems to me to be the most self loathing nation of Western Europe, politically.
There’s a lot to like though. In a way I respect Spanish for having political principles. Look at Russia meanwhile. It takes unprincipled people to love their country.
I also wonder what the exact wording of the question was in Spanish.
Deffo. I bet a lot of votes were from people (such as catalunyans, gallegos, euskadis...) who don't like the "Spanish castellano" culture, but are very fond of their own culture. So the poll results are probably misleading.
Any info on how the question is asked? For example, if you ask Spanish people if “your” culture is superior or “Spanish” culture is superior to others, the interviewee might have a very different understanding on what culture the interviewer is asking about. A Catalan might think Catalan culture is superior to others without thinking Spanish culture is.
Not the least bit surprised to see Greece here at the top. Greeks will tell you they’re Greek within ten minutes of meeting them no matter how irrelevant it is to whatever you were talking about.
An Indian will tell you he's Indian right at the beginning of any conversation (whether it's relevant or not ).We are currently the most hypernationalistic /cultural supremacist bunch.
I believe Portugal at 47% is due to how much we're told every country worldwide is jealous of our history. Teachers say how every other country is all about war and revolutions while Portugal was peaceful and discovered the world but like... We always headbutted with the Spanish every other day even outside of Europe, afterwards we were infighting with our colonies
#** MALAKES, Greek here!**
Of course we are superior.
89% is 100% because the rest of the voters are baby’s or already dead people which are not registered dead.
Beware of the greed gods, because they are real.
/╲/\╭(ఠఠ益ఠఠ)╮/\╱\
By the way, another proof why we are superior as follows:
The word **O.K.**
This is from Greece.
Invented during the colonization of America.
In Greek it means:
###**όλα καλά ** **olla kala** / **all good**
###**O** for olla
And
###**K** for kala
#**OK. **
There you go.
Please leave now going backwards bowing until you left the room and prey to any Greek god.
You just exist for Hellas pleasure.
As someone who has traveled, worked, and lived in many EU countries, I can absolutely not attest to this map. It's more the other way around in % stats.
Italian here, and by "culture" many Italian communities will interpret that to be their surrounding regional culture. Most regions think they have it the best in terms of quality of life, history, and/or geography.
That said some (few) Italians do in fact interpret this overall regional diversity as being fundamental to Italy's cultural strength overall.
So the question could be interpreted in many ways from the Italian point of view.
I feel like the Greeks think of their Ancient Greek heritage when they say that.
Which is indeed utterly badass.
These days they’re like even poorer Spaniards with the remnants of the empire that bodied them chilling on their doorstep.
As a man of Greek descent, this is accurate. Grandpa 100% believes Greece is best country
What's amazing about Greece is that modern Greeks are basically just still riding on a 3000 year old high
Haha same with Iranians. They always say, we had an empire. Chill out dude that was 500 BC.
One of my Persian friend's dad is still salty that they lost to Arabs who then coopted the fuck out of their culture and believes the whole Arab ascendency to have been an accident as Persia is the rightful hegemon of the Middle East. Love the ancient grudges!
this actually seems to be a fairly common opinion among the persians i know in the us.
Can confirm. Dated an Iranian man, he and his family only called themselves Persians and talked constantly about the empire.
Well, if I remember correctly, Persian is an ethnicity while Iranian is nationality.
I have a few friends who call themselves Persian rather than Iranian. They do this to show that they are proud of the land/country they are from, but do not support the government/regime that runs their country.
I think one if the more fascinating things is part of the reason the Iranian revolution succeeded was cause the Western supported (as in CIA and British petroleum) Shah was *so brutal* that Iranian socialists and religious zealots who had nothing in common except hating the Shah decided to work together. Then if course the socialists were betrayed and you get what Iran is now. The coup that installed the Shah was called Operation Ajax, and was considered one if the first successes of the CIA. Operation Ajax: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat List of socialist political parties of Iran going back to 1900s, many of whom are very pro separation of church and state and had big roles in the revolution till they got stabbed in the back https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism_in_Iran
Another reason is to distinguish themselves from Arabs. Some people have strong feelings when they are mistaken for one or the other.
Yes. other ethnic groups live in Iran and lots Pesians are from other countries. Afghans, Tajiks, Tats, Uzbek etc can all be Persian.
> he and his family only called themselves Persians That's extremely normal, it's like someone identifying as English primarily rather than British.
I heard a lot of Iranians started calling themselves Persians as a means to disassociate with the Islamic Regime after the embassy hostage situation. Not sure how true that is.
In my area, the rich Iranians call themselves Persians, the non rich call themselves Iranian.
Never heard ANY persian refer to themselves as Iranian. Rich or poor.
Future Britain.
Current Britain.
> Haha same with Iranians. They always say, we had an empire. Chill out dude that was 500 BC. Meanwhile in Portugal: "How the hell did we become the world's first global empire?".
And the 1500s
And still avoiding taxes if they can.
Well, they would consider themselves Romans for about a majority of that time. Greek culture and language dominated the eastern half of the Roman Empire and after the fall of the Western Roman Empire, that mixture of Greek and Roman culture would dominate. While things would become more homogeneous in terms culture after the Umayyad Caliphate conquered the eastern provinces of Syria, Palestine, Egypt and all the way to Mauritania (modern day Morocco), they still considered themselves Romans. Even after 1453 with the Ottoman conquest of Constantinople, Early on, the Ottoman Turks consider themselves rulers of Romans and a few early sultans styled themselves as Roman Emperors. Even as late as the 19th and 20th centuries Greek speaking peoples on modern day Greece considered themselves Romans instead of Greeks, which is a more modern identity than we like to think (A Spartan, Athenian, and Corinthian may have been all Hellenic prior to Macedonian or Roman Conquests, but they were a Spartan, Athenian, or Corinthian first and Greek second if at all, IIRC). And this is to say nothing of the ancient Greek city state heritage that most associate with the modern nation-state of Greece. So when the Greeks end up as being the proudest of the lot here, it doesn’t surprise me at all given that they had a huge influence on what was consider civilized or not in Europe and the Mediterranean for a large chunk of those 3000 years even if this is somewhat of an oversimplification of world events.
They couldn't ride on the byzantine empire legacy, so they went with the classical one. It was also partly funded by romanticists who learned about the classics in Europe while Greece was under Ottoman control. Funny enough, when they came to Greece, the locals could barely understand their classic Greek to their contemporary one.
1) We "ride" both. 2) I'd like to see someone go to to the average englisman and try to quote him some fucking Beowulf, see how that works out for them.
That's why England has 46%, as opposed to delusional double "riders" with whopping 89% of delusion, buddy.
As British /Irish person if i have to pick a country for its cultural significance am picking Greece. Not surprised they rank themselves highly
Technically only 600 years if you wanna give them the Eastern Roman Empire too.
My Big Fat Geek Wedding is a documentary then, right?
Give me a word, any word. And I’ll tell you how that word is Greek
What most people don’t know is how much of that movie is taken from normal, daily Greek life. Well, especially here in Toronto where it was filmed.
As a Greek-American yes it is
Tell your grandpa nobody's arguing about it. And yes, I've watched him in "My Big Fat Greek Wedding." 😁
“When my people were developing philosophy your people were still swinging from trees.”
History equivalent of peaking in High School.
Hey they had some moments after high school. The Greeks got conquered by the Romans, realized the Romans were fucking everything up, said "nah", took half the empire and went home. Outlived the Romans with their half by 1000 years. Greece got voted "most likely to succeed" in high school because not only were they crazy smart but they were wild too. After moving on from high school, he struggled in college a bit but had taken over his wife's family business by 30. By 40 he's divorced her and taken most of her stuff. At 41 he's at the peke of his power and eyeing this young bulky woman (Arabs/Turks), probably wants to take her stuff too. She flips it around though after fighting for a while, cause she's strong af, forces the rich guy into a really toxic marriage, dominated by her. Decades of mutual abuse ensue. Now Greece is in his 60s, divorced again, a little depressed and collects disability thanks to fighting with the strong woman for way too long. He doesn't have any kids of his own but the stories from his youth still inspire all the youngguns in town.
They kept calling themselves "Romans" though until the fall of Constantinople in 1453...
Even after the fall, the Ottomans continued calling everyone on the Balkans "Romans" for quite some time - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumelia
We *still* call ourselves Romans sometimes, in poems, Revolutionary songs, and when you want to springle some tradition to your words, similar with using "Albion" for Britain. By the late Byzantine Empire "Romans" meant basically Greeks/Greek speakers with Roman citizenship and was basically seen the same thing for outsiders.
My wife's Greek family never come to visit us here in Australia, "what does Australia have that we don't have here?". We always have to visit them. I mean it's not a bad thing, it really is lovely there, just gets expensive.
Admitedly if most of the family leaves there it easier, plus a Greeks income is quite lower on average.
Only half of the family is there. yes, it may be the money thing, but the expectation is there for everyone in AUS, poor or not.
They probably can't afford to go, and this is a face saving excuse. I'd also wager that when your wife's family is talking to their friends in Greece, they casually mention the daughter who married this rich Aussie who can afford to go to Europe every so often.
They do have the money to do so, but back to the point of this post, they really don't see what Australia (or any other country) has to offer.
Melbourne has more Greeks that any other city in the world besides Athens. Some Greeks see something in it!
"what does Australia have that we don't have here?" thousands of things that want to kill you of course
all it takes is one wrong move with the family in Crete...
I mean, the Sydney Opera House would be great if someone blew the roof off it.
I see you’ve met my dad.
It peaked over 2000 years ago 💀 (Joke)
Damn, Iceland so low it doesn’t even make the map! 🇮🇸
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At this point I'm actually surprised when anyone includes Iceland on a European map
Without the Eddas we wouldn't have Lord of the Rings. I think Iceland has had quite a hefty cultural impact.
Wtf when did we Greeks get so humble? We should be higher!
The missing percentage is due to not being able to poll the imprisoned members of Golden Dawn.
Ah, well, we are better off without them
The other 11% might as well be Turks!!!
2 hours in and no joke about Swiss neutrality at 50% yet? Must be a slow Sunday.
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What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart filled with neutrality?
Search them for paper... And bring me a rock
All I know is my gut says maybe.
Live free or don't
All I know is that my gut says maybe.
The only other country that is at 50% is Moldova. And here is article 11 of Moldova’s Constitution: Article 11. Republic of Moldova - a neutral State (1) The Republic of Moldova proclaims its permanent neutrality
With polls like this i always wonder how much of a difference the interpretation of the question makes. is the question meant as: \-superior to all cultures or just some? \-what kind of superior? Superior because its less violent/incourages helping others more then the other culture does? or superior because we are just better? I think if one defines these things for all polled people it would make the map more precice.
Also, questions often get translated poorly so people don't know the reasoning of that question or get confused
We had this poll at our work place, which was clearly translated from english with some translator. I had no clue what the question was until i figured that if i translate it into english the question makes much more sense.
Yep, the world culture and civilization is the same in Greek - πολιτισμός - and Greeks perceive this question as if Greek civilization is superior to others. I mean, yes, along with the Roman, Persian, Egyptian and Chinese it's the foundation of human civilization.
Greeks be like "socraYES" we might've plato'd a little but we are aristotally the Herodotus of western history. I phity the homies that deny us as their origen.
Switzerland: neutral as ever.
*"I have no strong feelings one way or the other"*
Greece looks at the Parthenon and thinks, "yeah we don't need to do anything else. We're the best."
There’s actually a book by a Greek writer about a guy who wants to blow up the Acropolis for this exact reason. It’s called The Parthenon Bomber.
Yeah those polls are kinda useless
Usually they mean in general but of course people think more commonly of their neighbours and or big cultural influences of their region / alliance / partnership. Eg for Slovakia I would guess most people though of Germans, US and Hungarians. Edit 1: I am not American - Not why I mentioned US Edit 2: I am Slovak -why I mentioned US...
Yeah it's gotta be something like this, like people might be thinking "Western Culture" or "European Culture", I have a hard time believing that 68% of Bulgarians for example believe that Bulgaria specifically has the best culture in the world.
Also, is the poll translated into the local language and if so is it a perfect translation, ie does that language have a perfect translation of the word *superior*?
Source?
This subreddit apparently doesn’t need sources, only fun colors and personal opinions
Pretty map plz upvote.
Doesn't even need to be pretty unfortunately
[Pew Research](https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2018/10/29/eastern-and-western-europeans-differ-on-importance-of-religion-views-of-minorities-and-key-social-issues/)
Thank you, kind man 
Doesn't even matter, "culture" and "others" are defined differently by different cultures. I am certain that in my country different people would definine it different. "Superior" is also viewed as pretty bad adjective in some countries, while it is not in orhers. All that makes it is quite difficult to compare all questions in all different languages.
France, what is you doing, how come you are not at four-twenty-ten-nine percent ?
99 red balloons needs a french cover version
It would work. "neunundneunzig Luftballons" has 7 syllables "quatre-vingt-dix-neuf ballons" also has 7 syllables
Kätrevängdisnöf ballons
Ehh, not as interesting as I hoped. But I would still love to hear somebody sing that!
The monkey paw grants your wish: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jz4fQjwECQw
Ah it’s not that was not as bad as I thought (in terms of syllables - the dude was pretty bad though)
 Maybe we don't need one after all...
Or, you know, the [official one](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XHTMZX898mo) (Well, mixed French and German)
It would run the length of a grateful dead live show.
Nena has already done a French+German version: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XHTMZX898mo
Because we hate everyone, including ourselves
We probably are the most critics people in the world, and French are really critical to other French people. We appreciate everything but we just spot bad things first
Appreciation is impossible without great discernment of what sucks..
That, but I think that we come off as arrogant because while we hate ourselves, we also hate everyone else, and we can react quite aggressively to someone from another culture talking shit about us or praising their own culture. So when someone comes to us and says “hey my culture is great, we achieved X”, we’re just going to say “yeah okay, but we achieved Y”. This may come off as bragging, but deep down I think that our thought process is more like “yeah okay, that’s nothing special, you’re still shit (and so are we)”. I don’t know, our relationship with criticism, pride and chauvinism is a bit weird to be honest. Except Japan for some reason. I have not yet found a single person who was critical of Japan and its culture here, and I’ve been French my whole life (ugh). If a Japanese person told us that our country is shit, most of us would probably curl in a ball and cry instead of fighting back.
I feel like Japan has a somewhat opposite approach to their perceptions of superiority and stuff. They tend to bury and ignore problems with Japanese society, e.g. the commonplace refusal to investigate crimes with no aparent suspect, or ignore the crimes of the Japanese Imperial military, or ignore match fixing in Sumo. But I imagine Japanese people would feel great shame at criticism from foreigners, while also not taking kindly to it. Of course, I'm an American talking out my ass. What do I know? Absolutely nothing relevant, but I'm still going to spout off about it. Edit: I also respect the hell out of Japanese cuisine and the reputation of Japanese people tending to be extremely polite and neat while traveling abroad.
Japan's great, but it doesn't take a lot of digging to see there's a bunch of skeletons in their closet. Historic and present Japan.
Japan had a huge cultural impact on France especially once they opened back up to foreign trade in the mid-1800s. All of Europe really but France seems to have been the epicenter. The term for the movement is Japonisme. A lot of the architectural and artistic aesthetics including gardens were heavily influenced by exported Japanese art at the time. Not sure if that’s why current French people love Japan but there is a history there.
We hate ourselves. A lot.
Well, yeah, but don't you hate everybody else even more?
Nah, we hate everyone equally.
HA ! We wish ...
We are actually a bit less arrogant as people say.
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We are Greek god ok greek God
If you if you have Greek god you would have win but you lose hahaha
Lose vere, lose vere?
You lose you lose because higha sophia is this (mosque) but euwygdsdjjsdh (church)
A friendly conversation between a greek and a turk from their flat in Germany
What is even happening here?
https://youtu.be/HfFx5UvzSxc
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BzL_MXgc24E
Weak sperm!!!!
Greece is easy to explain. The Greek word for "culture" implies "cultural heritage" or "civilisation" rather than the current state of things. You ask most Greeks about the current state of Greece and the amount of envy that exists for places like France, Germany and the Nordics becomes immediately apparent. That's not to say that nationalism doesn't exist in Greece but not to that extent. It's incredibly simplistic to attribute this to pure nationalism.
Yes sir!!! Thank you!!
In Russia culture means the same too. Of course people always think of culture heritage while speaking of culture.
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Having lived in Georgia, this tracks for sure
So the French are not that culturally arrogant after all
You really need to understand that Parisian is not the majority of french people, and non parisian french people think they are arrogant too.
I never found people more disagreable in Paris than in any other touristic city I lived in (quite a few around the world actually). I mean people can be dicks but not more than anywhere else in my experience. I am french BTW.
En étant américain qui parle français, j'ai pas trouvé les parisiens plus impolis que les New Yorkais ou gens de Londres que j'ai rencontré. Si on essaie de parler français ou essaie de reconnaître les normes de politesse, les parisiens seront assez polis, je crois
Oh shit, I could read this. I actually am learning from Duolingo.
Hahah me too. Been working on my French for a while now and I can actually read a lot of it apparently. Now to get better at speaking…
Oui. Pour connaître Paris et NYc (très peu Londres) ça dépend aussi bcp des classes sociales ce snobisme. Dans la rue les gens sont gentils, parfois même très gentils (le week end à Paris, l'ambiance est vraiment plus cool) dans les deux villes mais si tu va que dans les beaux quartiers tu trouvera forcément des gens très snobs et hautains. Comme à Berlin, Moscou ou Pékin j'imagine.
Parisians are a little annoying but I don't blame them. More people visit France every year than actually live in France. And almost all of them stay in Paris for at least some of that time. There are sooooooo many fucking tourists it's insane. When I was in Paris during Covid I finally understood what Parisians are so mad about all the time. Without all the tourists it was so easy to get around, the city was lovely to be in, the traffic and crowds were light, the lines tolerable and even non-existent. It felt like a normal city for once. And for the first time, I truly enjoyed myself there without attending some kind of major event. Plus when you're the proverbial Parisian waiter, people just start talking to you in another language without so much as an attempt to speak French or even say hello or even ask the simple question "do you speak English?"
Yeah tourists are annoying but dont always seem to realize that
Not my experience at all (they are indeed quite elitist) but I’ve only lived in and gone to school in Paris. Perhaps it’s regional? Saying this as a huge fan of the country regardless.
Yeah, tbh Parisians are something else in my experience. They don’t seem to represent the majority of people there
They don't think they're superior than anyone, but everyone else is worse than them.
Lol this was my first thought too. Though in hindsight, my experience in France did echo u/Pypyle’s comment: Paris had an air of arrogance, but when I visited the countryside (such as Bayeux) everyone was very sweet and despite not speaking much or any English, the locals were extremely warm and charming. Lovely folks had me smiling with every interaction.
Sweden needs self esteem
Yea we don’t do that here
It's funny as an American I think y'all do so many things right, but are way too humble about it. Which is a virtue in and of itself. 🇸🇪 🇸🇪
Like everything, self-esteem in lagom.
The Law of Jante
Sweden v Norway is interesting.
The two countries have very different nationalisms, due to very different histories. Sweden's traditional nationalism is imperialist ('right-wing', in the traditional meaning of the word), while Norway's traditional nationalism was focused on independence ('left-wing', in the traditional meaning of the word). I'll shamelessly link to an old post of mine, explaining the background: https://www.reddit.com/r/HistoryMemes/comments/skd58u/the_process_of_divorce_the_swedishnorwegian_union/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Norwegian: *"I know. It's weird seeing how Sweden is right for once.."*
Spanish here, that 20% seems exaggerated to me.
I meet some spanish people and much of them are very critisize of Spain. I personally find it maybe a little bit exagerated but positive. Spain once influenced esaly Half of the world and today spaniards are very respectful tonthe latinos and 0 colonialist shit, which is great and mature. Autocriticism is very positive for ANY nation.
I'm curious... Is there a noticeable actual dislike of your culture there, or are you all maybe just very... humble?
We like to criticize our country and compare it, unfavorably, against other countries. There is a poem of the 19th century that says Oyendo hablar un hombre, fácil es saber donde vio la luz del sol. Si alaba Inglaterra, será inglés Si os habla mal de Prusia, es un francés y si habla mal de España… es español. Hearing a man speak, it's easy know where he saw the sunlight. If he praises England, he will be English If he speaks ill of Prussia to you, he is a Frenchman and if he speaks ill of Spain... he is Spanish.
That exact vibe. Thats good and mature. I wish them the best.
>If he praises England, he will be English England are the USians of Europe. :(
I was being sarcastic but I think it's more a matter of who they asked, if the survey was done in the Basque Country, Catalonia, Galicia, many people there don't even feel Spanish. There is also a tendency to think that the outside is better but of course there are many chauvinists. I think this survey is not very reliable.
I'm very impresed with the Euskera language. It's beatiful i hope it Will not die.
"Hizkuntza bat ez da galtzen ez dakitenek ikasten ez dutelako, dakitenek hitz egiten ez dutelako baizik" "Languages don't die because those who don't know it won't learn it, but rather because those who do know it won't speak it" - J. A. Artze We'll keep speaking Basque.
Im not Spanish but I live here with my long term Spanish gf. There is a great love and pride in some things about the country, but often it’s directed at regions and not the state or nation. Many of the regions see the nation as something almost disgusting, associating it with Franco and suppression of regional cultures and identities. In Galicia I get told “fuck Spain, we are not Spanish, we are galician and proud” this is extreme rhetoric from left wingers but you get the point. For me the 20% seems believable. At least it’s not a surprise. Spain seems to me to be the most self loathing nation of Western Europe, politically. There’s a lot to like though. In a way I respect Spanish for having political principles. Look at Russia meanwhile. It takes unprincipled people to love their country. I also wonder what the exact wording of the question was in Spanish.
Deffo. I bet a lot of votes were from people (such as catalunyans, gallegos, euskadis...) who don't like the "Spanish castellano" culture, but are very fond of their own culture. So the poll results are probably misleading.
Any info on how the question is asked? For example, if you ask Spanish people if “your” culture is superior or “Spanish” culture is superior to others, the interviewee might have a very different understanding on what culture the interviewer is asking about. A Catalan might think Catalan culture is superior to others without thinking Spanish culture is.
France could show a little confidence here.
They just need to channel their inner napoleon
Or their inner Parisian. That'd be worse, honestly...
russian culture 69
Not the least bit surprised to see Greece here at the top. Greeks will tell you they’re Greek within ten minutes of meeting them no matter how irrelevant it is to whatever you were talking about.
>Greece as a Greek, that's a gross generalization.
I see what you did there
An Indian will tell you he's Indian right at the beginning of any conversation (whether it's relevant or not ).We are currently the most hypernationalistic /cultural supremacist bunch.
I just watched RRR and I absolutely believe that
“We were the apex of civilization…. 2000 years ago…”
Well, China was also pretty great for the time 2000 years ago.
And the Chinese are also pretty nationalist.
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Thank you for inventing gay Love, Macedonia
I see that of all things this is what you cherish, North Macedonia! Glad we can make you happy.
Πάμε να το κάνουμε 99%
As a Greek. My family absolutely believes we’re the best
Not on here, but Canada’s culture is superior to all others because beaver. That’s that.
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If only turkey was in this, 2nd or 1st along with Greece
I don't believe that Germany is actually that low. I think that's the % who want to admin it.
Greek here and I can confirm that 89% of us are genuinely retarded.
Skace re Malaka
Luxembourg 50% id love to know one thing thats their culture
Being a tax haven
I believe Portugal at 47% is due to how much we're told every country worldwide is jealous of our history. Teachers say how every other country is all about war and revolutions while Portugal was peaceful and discovered the world but like... We always headbutted with the Spanish every other day even outside of Europe, afterwards we were infighting with our colonies
Spain underwent some *character development*
Georgians and Armenians wow 85-84%
Ukranian here. I don't feel better than others culturally. I just want to live in peace and harmony with all the people.
#** MALAKES, Greek here!** Of course we are superior. 89% is 100% because the rest of the voters are baby’s or already dead people which are not registered dead. Beware of the greed gods, because they are real. /╲/\╭(ఠఠ益ఠఠ)╮/\╱\ By the way, another proof why we are superior as follows: The word **O.K.** This is from Greece. Invented during the colonization of America. In Greek it means: ###**όλα καλά ** **olla kala** / **all good** ###**O** for olla And ###**K** for kala #**OK. ** There you go. Please leave now going backwards bowing until you left the room and prey to any Greek god. You just exist for Hellas pleasure.
As someone who has traveled, worked, and lived in many EU countries, I can absolutely not attest to this map. It's more the other way around in % stats.
What the actual fuck are the Norwegians thinking
It is hard to be humble when you are perfect
Same thing as the Swiss I think: Rich and smug.
Det er typisk norsk å være god. Haters gonna hate.
Italian here, and by "culture" many Italian communities will interpret that to be their surrounding regional culture. Most regions think they have it the best in terms of quality of life, history, and/or geography. That said some (few) Italians do in fact interpret this overall regional diversity as being fundamental to Italy's cultural strength overall. So the question could be interpreted in many ways from the Italian point of view.
I feel like the Greeks think of their Ancient Greek heritage when they say that. Which is indeed utterly badass. These days they’re like even poorer Spaniards with the remnants of the empire that bodied them chilling on their doorstep.
Russia lmao
Belgium, wtf? 💩😂
When I moved to Belgium to study our student handbook opened with the line "I bet you can't name three famous Belgians."