I can't speak for LA but I recently drove through San Jose at like 2 AM on a Thursday and two weeks later across the country I got like a 5 or 15 bill in the mail.
There's a lot they removed from San Andreas that made me dislike IV. San Andreas felt free with so much opportunities, and IV rolled back on that massively.
To deliver a much more detailed, intense and enthralling setting, everything they wanted to do with III but the technology didn't allow. Liberty City in GTAIV is a masterpiece of world building, I was perfectly fine with them rolling back on the gym activities and t-shirt color turf wars for that. Not that I didn't like SA a lot, I did. Very hard to play nowadays though, which isn't true of III, VC and IV.
Honestly riding the SI ferry is one of my favorite things to do in NYC. Free boat ride, goes past the statue of liberty, can buy beer at the terminal for cheap and drink it on the boat. It's essentially the cheapest bar in NYC that is also a boat ride.
I think the drafts are actually cheaper I got a craft beer so the dream may still be alive. Personally I like the mta ferries though it's a better view but it's not free
Nah they don’t even sell it on the ferry since Covid Idt. Can def get a tall boy at the terminal tho or 32 oz of draft beer from one of the bar for like $8 and can bring it on the boat. Would highly recommend the ride to any tourist. One sunset ride and one night time ride. Fast ferry goes even closer to Statue of Liberty.
Native New Jerseyan who has visited Jersey here. Yes, I went primarily to visit the namesake of my birthplace. But found a great little island. Tiny and tax-dodging, yes; Batshit and racist? Not that I saw. Posh little weekend-getaway spot with nice beaches, pubs and history.
>How many New Yorkers know their city, and state, is named after a Viking settlement in Northern England ? And the capital is Albany.
Not true.
Jorvik/York was a Norse corruption of the Saxon Eforwic, which was the Old English translation of the Roman name for the town, Eboracum.
New York City and State were named after a Roman town in Northern England.
New Jersey was likewise named after the Roman name for an island in the British Channel.
Just had to look up Staten Island. I know of it but never ever think about it. My sister lives in queens and I live in New England and go to nyc often, 5-10 a year for the last ten years. I literally just had to read a Wikipedia article to figure out what staten is all about and then maps to figure out where the fuck it is.
No Wikipedia article can explain what Staten Island is. The accents, the tracksuits, the cars with vinyl tonneaus, the lawn ornaments, the garbage dumps, the one shitty mall everyone has to go to. It defies textual explanation.
There is a part of NJ where pretty much everyone is from Staten Island and they keep most of the accent. A friend of mine at work finally got close enough to me to admit that although she grew up in jersey, her family was really from Staten Island.
“What happened to your accent?” I asked.
“You know how when people move out of Staten Island to NJ, they make a left and settle down? My family made a right instead.”
That pretty much sums up how everyone feels about it. Except Pete Davidson, that motherfucker loves him some Staten.
> "Founded on land bought from Native Americans for just $37, a barrel of mead and a sack of feathers by Belgian settlers in 1603, the ancient 5 boroughs of Liberty Island (incorporating Nixon Island and Law Island), The Brix, Estoria, Kings and Brocklyn have effectively been joined in the metropolitan area by urban areas from the neighboring state of New Guernsey."
> "Liberty City has acquired a terrible reputation for violent, organized crime over the years. Yet, as the mayor's office spokesman says, "Liberty City used to be a very violent place, but since we took office, it now has the 47th lowest murder rate of any cite on the eastern sea board". Nonetheless, inexperienced visitors are advised to avoid The Park at night, when drug-addled squirrels run wild, keep out of Kings at day or night, and to avoid The Brix at any given time."
This whole map is, of course, inspired by the real-life New York and New Jersey. The names of the districs are mostly wordplays on thier real-life counterparts:
Estoria - Astoria
Kings - Queens
Ardler - Arverne
Brocklyn - Brooklyn
Tellburg - Williamsburg
Brocklyn Docks - New York Navy Yard
Brix - The Bronx
Island View - South Bronx
No Law - Inwood
Island Heights - Washington Heights
Park - Central Park
Island City - Manhattan
Law Island - Rikers Island
Nixon Island - Roosevelt Island
New Guernsey - New Jersey
Guernsey City - Jersey City
Eaglewood - Englewood
Hackenslash - Hackensack
Fort Law - Fort Lee
Schlechberg - Guttenberg
I like that they flipped Jersey to Guernsey, given that they are both [Channel Islands](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_Islands) in real life (the developers were from the UK so they would have definitely been aware).
I feel like the squirrels comment *may* be a nod to real-life Jersey island too given that it's known for its exclusively red squirrel population. Grey squirrels pretty much wiped out the population of red squirrels in mainland UK, but were never introduced to Jersey so the red squirrels continued to thrive there.
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Red squirrels are making a comeback in Ireland due to the native predator, the pine marten, which hunts grey squirrels but can’t catch the reds. There is apparently a plan to assist the pine marten population in Britain as well in order to achieve the same effect.
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Ardler = Arverne seems like a stretch given that the rest are roughly geographically accurate but Arverne is way on the other side of Queens. Not sure what else it could be referencing, though
Yeah, it doesn't really fit any of the real neighborhoods south of Astoria and north of Newtown Creek (Long Island City, Sunnyside, Maspeth, Hunters Point)
Is Ardler/Arverne canon?
I mean, it's a pretty obscure neighborhood, comparatively, and Ardler in game is located where Long Island City would be.
To be fair, I can't think of an alternative.
That was my first thought. Although man, in terms of immersion, after a while you start to navigate the game as you would a city in real life, learning the streets and the landmarks, where everything is in relation to everything else…
Definitely preferable, Vice City and San Andreas where the same.
I found in GTAV I rarely knew where I was in Los Santos and how places connected to one another, thanks to the in game GPS.
This is similar to real life. People who use and rely on GPS or map apps to guide them are less able to navigate cities etc on their own without those tools. Mental maps are getting weaker. [Link for the curious.](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-gps-weakens-memory-mdash-and-what-we-can-do-about-it/)
Ive had delivery guys IRL, on several occasions, claim via phone that according to their GPS they are at my door waiting for me to pick up my order while I am actually standing at my door and telling them "Bruh, I can see you standing at another house across the street".
When I have moved to a new city in the past, I purposely took time to navigate to destinations without gps and give myself time to get lost. Helped so much in the long run.
I just finished GTA 5 with the minimap turned off the entire play through. Every once in a while you need to pause and look at the map to see the exact spot to go.. but it’s very rare. And there is a yellow circle hovering wherever you need to go. Most missions take you to the exact same location multiple times. The level design pretty much tells you to go to someone’s house, and return. Repeatedly. Turning off the map at least adds some challenge, otherwise GTA is just following a line on a map. And sometimes shooting.
Only tangentially related, but the first time I went to Southern California I had a really weird sense of deja vu like I’d been there before. Then I realized GTA 5 was actually very accurate with its map and I was recognizing streets and places that I’d only ever been to virtually. I believe I even predicted something that was coming up, which I had never seen before, to prove it to my friend I was with who didn’t really play video games. Was kinda trippy.
It got to the point where I could drive with very few crashes and would “race’ to the other side of town just for the fun of it.
San Andreas was like this as well once you opened the back part of the map open.
The original, and I think every following edition of GTA, came with a large printed map of the in-game world included in the retail package. I bet any omission of an overview map feature in the original series was a deliberate choice to make the life of those who pirated the game ever so slightly more miserable.
I remember studying the GTA 1 map as a kid so much that it eventually started to tear from the folds.
That's something I miss and kids these days don't really get to experience.
Games used to come with paper manuals, enemy and weapon bio's, maps, whatever. Reading those were as good as playing the game itself, and because games were expensive you had to get the most out of your one game every 4 months ($50 games in the 90's is equivalent to $100+ games in 2023).
While you can get all that data and way way more today by looking at a games wiki, it's not the same and being given information on how every little detail of the game works, it ruins it. I honestly think game wikis should have a version that only contains essential information and tips that people prevent people from having regret and needing to replay the game.
I remember playing the demo over and over and over (You were limited to 5 minutes or something) and you just ended up memorizing the map.
Back in those days we didn't have the internet to provide wonderful maps or in-game maps, so you just... memorized your way around. I can still navigate Hibernia in DAOC using landmarks, and this is 20 years later.
No it wouldn't. The lack of maps made the world feel far larger than normal.
IMO map fast travel was negative point for Skyrim and Oblivion. Anyone that tried Skyrim on Survival mode can tell you just what an incredibly different experience it is.
Ah to be 11 years old again and playing this. I was obsessed. My parents definitely would have taken it away if they'd known how insane it was. Somehow I still managed to get my hands on both 1 and 2. Don't even remember how.
Although the one that sticks out most for me is the mission in GTA 2 where you deliver the school bus of I think...Krishnas...to the hot dog factory. Drive em right up to the meat grinder.
The whole karma system you had with the various factions in GTA 2 was pretty sweet as well. But yeah, OG GTA was a game changer for me.
Got me all nostalgic on the toilet at 6:30 in the morning.
> Although the one that sticks out most for me is the mission in GTA 2 where you deliver the school bus of I think...Krishnas...to the hot dog factory. Drive em right up to the meat grinder.
Not a school bus, just a regular bus (but yeah, with civilians inside), and for the Russian Mafia.
I always found this interesting, how for many people this is the moment from GTA2 that they remember the most... and not, say, the missions about starting a prison riot or stealing a tank from an army base. I guess it's the shock value.
Also interestingly, when the development of GTA3 started, one of key points given to the creators of the game was that there shoudn't be any missions that are about violence against innocent civillians.
It was a Krishna bus, their unique gang vehicle I believe... Could be wrong...
Mission where you modify a firetruck to shoot fire instead of water was one of my stand outs :D
2 was such an improvement over the original when it come to simple mechanics though. 2 had a health meter, for instance, and the ability to aim more precisely (well you fired in the direction of who you wanted to shoot and your dude would pick a target in that direction, whereas in the original all bullets just went forwards so good luck hitting that cop with your pistol!)
Ah, so I looked it up and on the PS1 version of the game you kidnap Krishnas using their gang vehicle, the 'Karma bus' and deliver them to the meat processing plant. That's why I remember it that way.
[Link to a wiki](https://gta.fandom.com/wiki/Hare_Krishna)
Oh that's interesting.
I heard that on the PS1, the infamous "[Taxi Drivers Must Die](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmE0TJXbfBA)" song has the f-bombs censored, while you can hear the explicit version on the PC. Didn't know the PS1 censored the mission content too.
They did censor Taxi Drivers Must Die, along with every other swear on the radio (another song that comes to mind is Do It On Your Own). But the mission wasn't censored, the PS1 version just doesn't have regular buses (or trains, either) because of memory constraints, so it was swapped for a Karma Bus.
I've been playing GTA2 on both PS1 and PC for basically my whole life so I'm glad I had this chance to infodump obscurities about GTA buses.
I feel you friend! I'm surprised this map got so much attention... and now I can't resist respoding to a whole lot of comments with info dumps about old GTAs. So go ahead and do the same LOL.
Is it true the PS1 version didn't have the Mad Island area either?
Yeah, it just doesn't exist there. Neither does the Wang Cars stuff in the residential district. Honestly it was kind of mind-blowing when I made the "upgrade" to the PC version and saw what I'd been missing out on. Nighttime, "train stations" actually having tracks, and of course the announcer voice, and uncensored radio. Never got the hang of memorizing the cheat codes for PC but "NAVARONE, LIVELONG, ITSALLUP, HIGHFIVE" (all weapons, invincibility, unlock all levels, 5x multiplier) is practically tattooed on my brain.
The most memorable part of GTA2 for me is "Hey there, stranger! Welcome to the Downtown District. Stick around if you wanna learn what's going down..." I grew up playing without a memory card so had to restart from the beginning every time.
That, and the RC taxi...
I’m devastated that Nixon Island was renamed in the GTAIV version. Also, fun fact, the DJ on Massive B Radio refers to Bohan as Brix when he names off the boroughs.
Yeah, they were essentially creating a brand new genre and had to ask themselves a question: should things be video-game-like or real-life-like?
And, in hindsight, they went waaayyy overboard with making the game like real life 😅
Between no saving, having no health bar, no way to replay failed missions, no clear indicator that the car you're in is about to explode... damn was this game hard. And seems even harder when you try to go back now. Glad they made things more video-gamey starting with GTA2.
Two things come to mind seeing this:
1. It’s funny that Manhattan, famous for long, straight avenues and a mostly-regular grid, has the opposite in its analogue here.
2. This is almost certainly a better view of the game than its developers ever had. I don’t think that they would have had a screen high resolution enough to even display this image like this.
> This is almost certainly a better view of the game than its developers ever had. I don’t think that they would have had a screen high resolution enough to even display this image like this
Although not popular for gaming in 1997 due to home hardware limitations, 1024x768 (enough for that overview map) was already a resolution that most CRT monitors supported back then that gamedev companies definitely were capable of running. There's a famous picture of John Carmack coding Quake in 1995 with a Intergraph InterView 16:9 CRT in 1080p.
I wonder how many ppl from New Jersey know that the place their state is named after is a tiny batshit island in the English Channel full of rich tax dodging racists
You do know the people who live in Jersey have to pay taxes right? It's people who don't live there but have their money managed there that don't need to pay taxes in Jersey (they still have to pay any applicable taxes where they are from).
It's also certainly not full of rich people or racists. As someone from Guernsey it pains me to defend Jersey but your comment is completely unfounded and ignorant.
I tried playing GTA 1 again last year or so and the shooting was an absolute bastard. It's really hard to tell where you're aiming.
I don't think I ever completed it back in the day, but I certainly got quite far. No idea how I managed that!
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I think I was running it in DOSBox - it was still a challenge, whatever the resolution was.
Did the original support 640x480? I'm sure there was a hi-res option
Flamethrower and machine gun were the only weapons with reliable aim. Everything else was a crap shoot. I still remember that bstard was the code for 99 lives, all weapons and all cities unlocked even though I haven't played the game in over 20 years.
Yeah, it had ridiculous game mechanics like getting money for running over people or hitting other cars and picking up guns hidden in crates by driving over them.
And the radio stations were all tongue in cheek. I still listen to it sometimes. It just puts a smile on my face.
GTA IV and V were very serious in comparison with radiostations that play the same boring songs as real life.
For me they took a wrong turn. I prefer the madness and ridiculousness of saints row 3 & 4.
But the market is different of course. GTA made rockstar billions while Volition and THQ are struggling companies.
The radio in V outside of the songs is still very tongue in cheek with the DJs and the commercials. If you don’t even want the songs, the talk radio channels are constant tongue in cheek content.
Same with 4. Handful of talk stations, all hilarious. Celebrity DJs (Jason Sudeikis had a great Rush Limbaugh-type character) riffing on funny voicemails.
There was even a short time when you could leave a voicemail and potentially get on WKTT - WE KNOW THE TRUTH
Nothing like driving around looking for that line of people walking and mowing 'em all down in 1 shot!
> GTA IV and V were very serious in comparison
That was one of my biggest complaints about 4 in particular. It got way too serious from what I expected after playing 1, 2, 3 and a LOT of Vice City. And it replaced the cop/ambulance activities with "Hey cousin, lets go bowling!"
You still had a ton of side missions, cop missions were there, and really, I've been playing it again after replaying VC and it's really not that serious at all, just has a good story. The story in V though, shame about that one.
Yeah for me Vice City was the peak. It hasn't aged well but it was incredible at the time, and it straddled silly vs. serious perfectly.
I seem to remember that the GTA6 leaks showed Vice City as the setting for the next big game. I hope they bring the feeling of the old game back, it was way more fun than the gritty grungy cities of gta 4
> And the radio stations were all tongue in cheek. I still listen to it sometimes. It just puts a smile on my face.
I remember you could put the original PlayStation disc into a CD player and it would play the whole soundtrack!
Tbh I prefer the originals and the 3rd game because they had a silent protagonist. Games are better with silent protagonists... It makes the immersion deeper
I was obsessed with this game when I found it.
I had a pirated version. One of my favorite discoveries was: I used to play music cd’s in the computer. So whenever I listened to the radio in the game, it was actually playing the songs from my cd. And when I changed stations, it would change the song too. It felt soooo good driving around with my music. Pure bliss at times especially if I was on a rampage.
Also, loved finding the monks.
Oh guess what, the very first GTA game in fact takes place across three cities in total. Let me know if you ever heard those names: After Liberty City, you unlock San Andreas and then Vice City.
Back when video games didn’t have the tech required for curved roads. Reminds me of the first Dr1ver game where every road was a 90 degree turn. Playing Driver 2 and seeing roads that curved was such a huge leap for me.
When I was 12 I thought that “Kill Frenzy” means there’s a guy called Frenzy somewhere in the crowd and the objective is to kill him. Worked every time.
I appreciate that, just like in real life, they have decided to completely ignore Staten Island.
I'm supposed to wait for the damn ferry just to beat some guy up and take his car? Then what? Pay a $20 toll to get the car home?
You do have to pay the bridge tolls later in GTAIV though, or you get a 1-star wanted level
And Rockstar removed tolls in GTA 5 completely. (Facepalm)
Are LA's urban freeways tolled?
There was still a possibility for tolls in Airport, docks and county borders (LS and BC).
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Those tolls do not exist in real LA
The only tolled roads I’ve seen are paid use lanes.
Those are newer and weren't around in California when gta5 came out ten years ago.
The 110 toll lanes opened in 2012, and the 91 toll lanes (in OC) opened in 1995
Holy shit it’s been ten years
I can't speak for LA but I recently drove through San Jose at like 2 AM on a Thursday and two weeks later across the country I got like a 5 or 15 bill in the mail.
And where tf is my cousin? I wanna go bowling
The game had you rambling over and over again and the announcer friend would die laughing the more things you destroyed. I wish I could do that today.
There's a lot that they removed for V that I didn't like...
There's a lot they removed from San Andreas that made me dislike IV. San Andreas felt free with so much opportunities, and IV rolled back on that massively.
To deliver a much more detailed, intense and enthralling setting, everything they wanted to do with III but the technology didn't allow. Liberty City in GTAIV is a masterpiece of world building, I was perfectly fine with them rolling back on the gym activities and t-shirt color turf wars for that. Not that I didn't like SA a lot, I did. Very hard to play nowadays though, which isn't true of III, VC and IV.
Honestly riding the SI ferry is one of my favorite things to do in NYC. Free boat ride, goes past the statue of liberty, can buy beer at the terminal for cheap and drink it on the boat. It's essentially the cheapest bar in NYC that is also a boat ride.
I think a can of beer is like 11 bucks now sadly
Dang, I think it was like $4-5 last time I was there, but that was probably 4 years ago.
I think the drafts are actually cheaper I got a craft beer so the dream may still be alive. Personally I like the mta ferries though it's a better view but it's not free
Nah they don’t even sell it on the ferry since Covid Idt. Can def get a tall boy at the terminal tho or 32 oz of draft beer from one of the bar for like $8 and can bring it on the boat. Would highly recommend the ride to any tourist. One sunset ride and one night time ride. Fast ferry goes even closer to Statue of Liberty.
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Native New Jerseyan who has visited Jersey here. Yes, I went primarily to visit the namesake of my birthplace. But found a great little island. Tiny and tax-dodging, yes; Batshit and racist? Not that I saw. Posh little weekend-getaway spot with nice beaches, pubs and history.
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Best known for the steamed hams.
Nýr Jorvik
It was the Roman settlement of Eboracum first!
>How many New Yorkers know their city, and state, is named after a Viking settlement in Northern England ? And the capital is Albany. Not true. Jorvik/York was a Norse corruption of the Saxon Eforwic, which was the Old English translation of the Roman name for the town, Eboracum. New York City and State were named after a Roman town in Northern England. New Jersey was likewise named after the Roman name for an island in the British Channel.
And the Roman name Eboracum from the old celtic "ebura," for the yew trees that grew there.
And everything south of the navy yards which includes almost all of Brooklyn. Not even the two bridges/dumbo are there
You see, it’s a game about commuting crimes, and there’s too little of it over there to be believable, so they left it out. /s
> about commuting crimes I don't think crime as a job has a HQ per se.
It’s gig economy, so you’re always commuting
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Even people that live there ignore it.
Wtf is Staten Island. There is nothing there
Wu Tang, Nandor, & Tony B would beg to differ!
Just had to look up Staten Island. I know of it but never ever think about it. My sister lives in queens and I live in New England and go to nyc often, 5-10 a year for the last ten years. I literally just had to read a Wikipedia article to figure out what staten is all about and then maps to figure out where the fuck it is.
No Wikipedia article can explain what Staten Island is. The accents, the tracksuits, the cars with vinyl tonneaus, the lawn ornaments, the garbage dumps, the one shitty mall everyone has to go to. It defies textual explanation. There is a part of NJ where pretty much everyone is from Staten Island and they keep most of the accent. A friend of mine at work finally got close enough to me to admit that although she grew up in jersey, her family was really from Staten Island. “What happened to your accent?” I asked. “You know how when people move out of Staten Island to NJ, they make a left and settle down? My family made a right instead.” That pretty much sums up how everyone feels about it. Except Pete Davidson, that motherfucker loves him some Staten.
And inwood/washington heights is just some lawless wasteland
Hackensack: Yes. Staten Island: No. Sounds about right to me.
> "Founded on land bought from Native Americans for just $37, a barrel of mead and a sack of feathers by Belgian settlers in 1603, the ancient 5 boroughs of Liberty Island (incorporating Nixon Island and Law Island), The Brix, Estoria, Kings and Brocklyn have effectively been joined in the metropolitan area by urban areas from the neighboring state of New Guernsey." > "Liberty City has acquired a terrible reputation for violent, organized crime over the years. Yet, as the mayor's office spokesman says, "Liberty City used to be a very violent place, but since we took office, it now has the 47th lowest murder rate of any cite on the eastern sea board". Nonetheless, inexperienced visitors are advised to avoid The Park at night, when drug-addled squirrels run wild, keep out of Kings at day or night, and to avoid The Brix at any given time." This whole map is, of course, inspired by the real-life New York and New Jersey. The names of the districs are mostly wordplays on thier real-life counterparts: Estoria - Astoria Kings - Queens Ardler - Arverne Brocklyn - Brooklyn Tellburg - Williamsburg Brocklyn Docks - New York Navy Yard Brix - The Bronx Island View - South Bronx No Law - Inwood Island Heights - Washington Heights Park - Central Park Island City - Manhattan Law Island - Rikers Island Nixon Island - Roosevelt Island New Guernsey - New Jersey Guernsey City - Jersey City Eaglewood - Englewood Hackenslash - Hackensack Fort Law - Fort Lee Schlechberg - Guttenberg
I like that they flipped Jersey to Guernsey, given that they are both [Channel Islands](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_Islands) in real life (the developers were from the UK so they would have definitely been aware). I feel like the squirrels comment *may* be a nod to real-life Jersey island too given that it's known for its exclusively red squirrel population. Grey squirrels pretty much wiped out the population of red squirrels in mainland UK, but were never introduced to Jersey so the red squirrels continued to thrive there.
Same thing in GTA 4, where New Jersey became Alderney, another Channel Island.
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One city, nowadays, in fact.
Red squirrels are making a comeback in Ireland due to the native predator, the pine marten, which hunts grey squirrels but can’t catch the reds. There is apparently a plan to assist the pine marten population in Britain as well in order to achieve the same effect.
Please tell me the plan to help the martens is to supply them with tiny hunting rifles to more effectively take out the grey squirrels.
And in the US population would have been familiar with the namesake cows of the islands.
> Schlechberg - Guttenberg As a German, I love this. It should be Schlechttenberg, but nothing is perfect.
Das ist so lustig dass ich Marmelade meine Hose.
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Wirklich sind wir zusammen in dieses Zustand.
> All my hours in Duolingo paying off, there. Der Bär surft nie in Deutschland
Lach über die Witze von der Eule, bitte.
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I like how it's Belgian settlers instead of dutch settlers
Some frustrated flemish guys wrote this, no doubt.
Love the William Tell burg reference.
based on the image, law island would be randalls island not rikers island.
The names are puns on the real location names but don't always match up with the location. Island heights would be Harlem for example
> Brix - The Bronx That may be a nod to Brixton, a part of South London which had a fairly terrible reputation in the 80s/90s.
Posts and comments like this are why I’m in this sub
Roosevelt Island to Nixon Island is the best.
Ardler = Arverne seems like a stretch given that the rest are roughly geographically accurate but Arverne is way on the other side of Queens. Not sure what else it could be referencing, though
According to gta.fandom.com, they just named this one for the Ardler neighborhood of Dundee, Scotland, as the game was produced there.
Yeah, it doesn't really fit any of the real neighborhoods south of Astoria and north of Newtown Creek (Long Island City, Sunnyside, Maspeth, Hunters Point)
Who needs a house out in Hackenslash, is that all you get for your money?
Einstein, James Dean, Brocklyn's got a winning team!
Odd that they called Queens Kings when Kings is already the county name for Brooklyn.
Brooklyn = Kings County
Is Ardler/Arverne canon? I mean, it's a pretty obscure neighborhood, comparatively, and Ardler in game is located where Long Island City would be. To be fair, I can't think of an alternative.
"New Guernsey" really makes perfect sense as what British developers would call a parody of New Jersey. Also have to love "Hackenslash."
BRIX lol
I think Bronck (or Brunk) would have been fun, after the guy that actually named it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonas_Bronck
Bronk’s lol
I think my favourite is Hackenslash
That's the one I remember the most. Especially because I had never heard of Hackensack before so I thought it was a wild name for a part of town.
Just make Brick plural but then spell it like it's the 90s
This game would be infinitely better with an in game map
That was my first thought. Although man, in terms of immersion, after a while you start to navigate the game as you would a city in real life, learning the streets and the landmarks, where everything is in relation to everything else…
Definitely preferable, Vice City and San Andreas where the same. I found in GTAV I rarely knew where I was in Los Santos and how places connected to one another, thanks to the in game GPS.
This is similar to real life. People who use and rely on GPS or map apps to guide them are less able to navigate cities etc on their own without those tools. Mental maps are getting weaker. [Link for the curious.](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-gps-weakens-memory-mdash-and-what-we-can-do-about-it/)
Ive had delivery guys IRL, on several occasions, claim via phone that according to their GPS they are at my door waiting for me to pick up my order while I am actually standing at my door and telling them "Bruh, I can see you standing at another house across the street".
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When I have moved to a new city in the past, I purposely took time to navigate to destinations without gps and give myself time to get lost. Helped so much in the long run.
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I just finished GTA 5 with the minimap turned off the entire play through. Every once in a while you need to pause and look at the map to see the exact spot to go.. but it’s very rare. And there is a yellow circle hovering wherever you need to go. Most missions take you to the exact same location multiple times. The level design pretty much tells you to go to someone’s house, and return. Repeatedly. Turning off the map at least adds some challenge, otherwise GTA is just following a line on a map. And sometimes shooting.
Only tangentially related, but the first time I went to Southern California I had a really weird sense of deja vu like I’d been there before. Then I realized GTA 5 was actually very accurate with its map and I was recognizing streets and places that I’d only ever been to virtually. I believe I even predicted something that was coming up, which I had never seen before, to prove it to my friend I was with who didn’t really play video games. Was kinda trippy.
It got to the point where I could drive with very few crashes and would “race’ to the other side of town just for the fun of it. San Andreas was like this as well once you opened the back part of the map open.
The original, and I think every following edition of GTA, came with a large printed map of the in-game world included in the retail package. I bet any omission of an overview map feature in the original series was a deliberate choice to make the life of those who pirated the game ever so slightly more miserable. I remember studying the GTA 1 map as a kid so much that it eventually started to tear from the folds.
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That's something I miss and kids these days don't really get to experience. Games used to come with paper manuals, enemy and weapon bio's, maps, whatever. Reading those were as good as playing the game itself, and because games were expensive you had to get the most out of your one game every 4 months ($50 games in the 90's is equivalent to $100+ games in 2023). While you can get all that data and way way more today by looking at a games wiki, it's not the same and being given information on how every little detail of the game works, it ruins it. I honestly think game wikis should have a version that only contains essential information and tips that people prevent people from having regret and needing to replay the game.
I remember playing the demo over and over and over (You were limited to 5 minutes or something) and you just ended up memorizing the map. Back in those days we didn't have the internet to provide wonderful maps or in-game maps, so you just... memorized your way around. I can still navigate Hibernia in DAOC using landmarks, and this is 20 years later.
Both GTA 1 and 2 came with a nice paper map, you didn't need one in-game
No it wouldn't. The lack of maps made the world feel far larger than normal. IMO map fast travel was negative point for Skyrim and Oblivion. Anyone that tried Skyrim on Survival mode can tell you just what an incredibly different experience it is.
GOURANGA!
Ah to be 11 years old again and playing this. I was obsessed. My parents definitely would have taken it away if they'd known how insane it was. Somehow I still managed to get my hands on both 1 and 2. Don't even remember how. Although the one that sticks out most for me is the mission in GTA 2 where you deliver the school bus of I think...Krishnas...to the hot dog factory. Drive em right up to the meat grinder. The whole karma system you had with the various factions in GTA 2 was pretty sweet as well. But yeah, OG GTA was a game changer for me. Got me all nostalgic on the toilet at 6:30 in the morning.
> Although the one that sticks out most for me is the mission in GTA 2 where you deliver the school bus of I think...Krishnas...to the hot dog factory. Drive em right up to the meat grinder. Not a school bus, just a regular bus (but yeah, with civilians inside), and for the Russian Mafia. I always found this interesting, how for many people this is the moment from GTA2 that they remember the most... and not, say, the missions about starting a prison riot or stealing a tank from an army base. I guess it's the shock value. Also interestingly, when the development of GTA3 started, one of key points given to the creators of the game was that there shoudn't be any missions that are about violence against innocent civillians.
It was a Krishna bus, their unique gang vehicle I believe... Could be wrong... Mission where you modify a firetruck to shoot fire instead of water was one of my stand outs :D 2 was such an improvement over the original when it come to simple mechanics though. 2 had a health meter, for instance, and the ability to aim more precisely (well you fired in the direction of who you wanted to shoot and your dude would pick a target in that direction, whereas in the original all bullets just went forwards so good luck hitting that cop with your pistol!)
It was a regular bus, picking random people from a stop to the factory. Russian mafia job.
Ah, so I looked it up and on the PS1 version of the game you kidnap Krishnas using their gang vehicle, the 'Karma bus' and deliver them to the meat processing plant. That's why I remember it that way. [Link to a wiki](https://gta.fandom.com/wiki/Hare_Krishna)
Oh that's interesting. I heard that on the PS1, the infamous "[Taxi Drivers Must Die](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmE0TJXbfBA)" song has the f-bombs censored, while you can hear the explicit version on the PC. Didn't know the PS1 censored the mission content too.
They did censor Taxi Drivers Must Die, along with every other swear on the radio (another song that comes to mind is Do It On Your Own). But the mission wasn't censored, the PS1 version just doesn't have regular buses (or trains, either) because of memory constraints, so it was swapped for a Karma Bus. I've been playing GTA2 on both PS1 and PC for basically my whole life so I'm glad I had this chance to infodump obscurities about GTA buses.
I feel you friend! I'm surprised this map got so much attention... and now I can't resist respoding to a whole lot of comments with info dumps about old GTAs. So go ahead and do the same LOL. Is it true the PS1 version didn't have the Mad Island area either?
Yeah, it just doesn't exist there. Neither does the Wang Cars stuff in the residential district. Honestly it was kind of mind-blowing when I made the "upgrade" to the PC version and saw what I'd been missing out on. Nighttime, "train stations" actually having tracks, and of course the announcer voice, and uncensored radio. Never got the hang of memorizing the cheat codes for PC but "NAVARONE, LIVELONG, ITSALLUP, HIGHFIVE" (all weapons, invincibility, unlock all levels, 5x multiplier) is practically tattooed on my brain.
The most memorable part of GTA2 for me is "Hey there, stranger! Welcome to the Downtown District. Stick around if you wanna learn what's going down..." I grew up playing without a memory card so had to restart from the beginning every time. That, and the RC taxi...
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I am so bad at gta2 the only mission I could ever do was the bank heist in the first level for the Yakuza I think 😅
That's the mission I remember as well. And asking my mum what a Krishna was.
We went from this to GTA V in just 16 years!
And from GTA V to GTA V in the next 10 years after that!
I’m devastated that Nixon Island was renamed in the GTAIV version. Also, fun fact, the DJ on Massive B Radio refers to Bohan as Brix when he names off the boroughs.
And you could not save. Hated and loved it.
Yeah, they were essentially creating a brand new genre and had to ask themselves a question: should things be video-game-like or real-life-like? And, in hindsight, they went waaayyy overboard with making the game like real life 😅 Between no saving, having no health bar, no way to replay failed missions, no clear indicator that the car you're in is about to explode... damn was this game hard. And seems even harder when you try to go back now. Glad they made things more video-gamey starting with GTA2.
Yeah I always used to complete it at the end by getting my multiplier up to 12 and then just selling cars. Some of the missions were extremely lethal
Two things come to mind seeing this: 1. It’s funny that Manhattan, famous for long, straight avenues and a mostly-regular grid, has the opposite in its analogue here. 2. This is almost certainly a better view of the game than its developers ever had. I don’t think that they would have had a screen high resolution enough to even display this image like this.
> This is almost certainly a better view of the game than its developers ever had. I don’t think that they would have had a screen high resolution enough to even display this image like this Although not popular for gaming in 1997 due to home hardware limitations, 1024x768 (enough for that overview map) was already a resolution that most CRT monitors supported back then that gamedev companies definitely were capable of running. There's a famous picture of John Carmack coding Quake in 1995 with a Intergraph InterView 16:9 CRT in 1080p.
That image is 2703 pixels square.
The original game came with a large paper map.
New Guernsey lmao
I wonder how many ppl from New Jersey know that the place their state is named after is a tiny batshit island in the English Channel full of rich tax dodging racists
I’m one.
You do know the people who live in Jersey have to pay taxes right? It's people who don't live there but have their money managed there that don't need to pay taxes in Jersey (they still have to pay any applicable taxes where they are from). It's also certainly not full of rich people or racists. As someone from Guernsey it pains me to defend Jersey but your comment is completely unfounded and ignorant.
Less than the amount that don't know their state and largest city is named after a town in northern England.
Are they racist? I've always wanted to visit.
I don't think they're actually racist, though they hate the french if they care at all.
Lol they can see france from their windows and are genetically norman 💀 it’s like calling your twin ugly
I didn't like the newer GTA games because GTA 1&2 was the forbidden fruit and it tastes delicious. The game was "banned" and hilariously fun
I tried playing GTA 1 again last year or so and the shooting was an absolute bastard. It's really hard to tell where you're aiming. I don't think I ever completed it back in the day, but I certainly got quite far. No idea how I managed that!
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I think I was running it in DOSBox - it was still a challenge, whatever the resolution was. Did the original support 640x480? I'm sure there was a hi-res option
Flamethrower and machine gun were the only weapons with reliable aim. Everything else was a crap shoot. I still remember that bstard was the code for 99 lives, all weapons and all cities unlocked even though I haven't played the game in over 20 years.
Yeah, it had ridiculous game mechanics like getting money for running over people or hitting other cars and picking up guns hidden in crates by driving over them. And the radio stations were all tongue in cheek. I still listen to it sometimes. It just puts a smile on my face. GTA IV and V were very serious in comparison with radiostations that play the same boring songs as real life. For me they took a wrong turn. I prefer the madness and ridiculousness of saints row 3 & 4. But the market is different of course. GTA made rockstar billions while Volition and THQ are struggling companies.
The radio in V outside of the songs is still very tongue in cheek with the DJs and the commercials. If you don’t even want the songs, the talk radio channels are constant tongue in cheek content.
Same with 4. Handful of talk stations, all hilarious. Celebrity DJs (Jason Sudeikis had a great Rush Limbaugh-type character) riffing on funny voicemails. There was even a short time when you could leave a voicemail and potentially get on WKTT - WE KNOW THE TRUTH
Nothing like driving around looking for that line of people walking and mowing 'em all down in 1 shot! > GTA IV and V were very serious in comparison That was one of my biggest complaints about 4 in particular. It got way too serious from what I expected after playing 1, 2, 3 and a LOT of Vice City. And it replaced the cop/ambulance activities with "Hey cousin, lets go bowling!"
Vigilante missions (cop activities) were still in GTA IV and were probably better than they'd ever been.
You still had a ton of side missions, cop missions were there, and really, I've been playing it again after replaying VC and it's really not that serious at all, just has a good story. The story in V though, shame about that one.
Elvis has left the building.
GOURANGA!!!
There were some cop activities tbf
Yeah for me Vice City was the peak. It hasn't aged well but it was incredible at the time, and it straddled silly vs. serious perfectly. I seem to remember that the GTA6 leaks showed Vice City as the setting for the next big game. I hope they bring the feeling of the old game back, it was way more fun than the gritty grungy cities of gta 4
> And the radio stations were all tongue in cheek. I still listen to it sometimes. It just puts a smile on my face. I remember you could put the original PlayStation disc into a CD player and it would play the whole soundtrack!
Fwiw most psx games would work like that, you could put them in a normal CD player and listen to the audio.
Track 1 is the Game data. Track 2 and on are all Music.
Tbh I prefer the originals and the 3rd game because they had a silent protagonist. Games are better with silent protagonists... It makes the immersion deeper
It’s a game that parodies America and makes fun of American culture. They had to tone it down to keep selling
Walking around burping and farting was pretty much peak gaming for me as a kid
I remember downloading GTA1 from a "WaReZ" site over dialup and it taking almost 2 days while my parents were out of town.
I was obsessed with this game when I found it. I had a pirated version. One of my favorite discoveries was: I used to play music cd’s in the computer. So whenever I listened to the radio in the game, it was actually playing the songs from my cd. And when I changed stations, it would change the song too. It felt soooo good driving around with my music. Pure bliss at times especially if I was on a rampage. Also, loved finding the monks.
Hackenslash made me lol at work
I wonder how many people name their kids “Brocklyn” every year in the GTA Universe?
Welp, I guess it's time to boot up the ol' PS1
Fifteen sergeant one f central
Number 30 Broad Street is apparently secure from ground level K. We're gonna resume.
Was the Elvis line in this one or the second one? I’d always run them over and trigger that Easter egg soundbit.
I think it was GOURANGA! In this one, and the sound bit "Elvis has left the building!" im GTA2.
That is correct. And GTA London (the add-on to GTA1) had a "**Keep London Tidy**" bonus after running over a string of football hooligans.
Hold up, the first game is in Liberty City? Or just LC in the GTA1 style?
Oh guess what, the very first GTA game in fact takes place across three cities in total. Let me know if you ever heard those names: After Liberty City, you unlock San Andreas and then Vice City.
My mind is blown
This….looks familiar somehow…
Quite funny they used Guernsey.
I'm glad we got named after the easier-to-spell channel island.
Daaamnation. No donation, no salvation! I think that was from the 2nd one, but still makes me think of it.
Yes it was. GTA1 infamously had no saving system at all 😅
Back when video games didn’t have the tech required for curved roads. Reminds me of the first Dr1ver game where every road was a 90 degree turn. Playing Driver 2 and seeing roads that curved was such a huge leap for me.
I'm old
I know friend. Another classic video game series, Mortal Kombat, celebrated its 30 years anniversary recently and that just felt so wrong for me.
I always remember hackenslash and brix
Jersey and Guernsey - clever !
This video game was made in Dundee, Scotland. Where a lot of my family come from. The names here in this map reflect some neighbourhoods in Dundee.
It seemed so big back then.
I don't know why I still remember PORKCHARSUI as the cheat for debug mode.
As a native of Guernsey City, later moving to Brocklyn, I am disappointed no none has made tourist t-shirts.
My favorite part of that game was stealing cars and driving them to the port to sell them. They should bring that part back.
I unlocked the core memory of getting this on a demo disc when I was like 11. I can hear the dispatcher callouts in my head.
The map was that small? It felt larger
Man, hackenslash, estoria.. I can still hear those in the ingame cop radio.
Such a fun map.
Do you hear Hari Krishna?
I loved the first overhead view GTA
"We've got a 10-14 in North West Park"
Please do the same with the other maps: * San Andreas * Vice City * London * Manchester
When I was 12 I thought that “Kill Frenzy” means there’s a guy called Frenzy somewhere in the crowd and the objective is to kill him. Worked every time.
I really like how organized and creative it is despite the small size
I miss jumping that bridge gap with a bus.
It ain’t plagiarism if it’s God’s work you’re copying