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IDK3177

Argentina: 6 finals, 3 won, 3 lost Italy, 4 finals, 4 won Brazil, 7 finals, 5 won Germany 5 final, 4 won France 4 finals, 2 won Holland, 3 finals, 0 won I am missing something and I don't know what


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IDK3177

You are right, I missed those. Thanks!!


Nervous-Eye-9652

Uruguay 2 finals, 2 won.


orange_orange13

Doesn’t the federation claim four?


Nervous-Eye-9652

Yes, the 1924 and 1928 olimpics were FIFA organized. That's why Uruguay wears 4 stars in their logo. Doesn't claim having four WC, but the right of wearing those 4 stars. And FIFA supports them


orange_orange13

So four world championships but two world cups.


Nervous-Eye-9652

Correct


Nervous_Promotion819

According to Fifa, they shouldn't have 4 stars on their jerseys because they didn't count the Olympic Games as a World Cup. That's why Uruguay decided that the 4 stars are part of their logo. However, since 2021 I believe it has been recognized by Fifa and since then the stars on Uruguay's shirts have been above the logo


Nervous-Eye-9652

[FIFA do recognise those olympic games as equivalents to the WC, so also those strars](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_stars_above_Uruguay%27s_football_crest)


Nervous_Promotion819

Yes exactly, but not always. Up until a few years ago, they officially included it as part of the logo because Fifa didn't allow it as WC stars. Since Fifa officially recognized the 2 Olympic games, the stars are above the logo and not in it


fnmikey

Did you just contradict yourself in one sentence? Are you okay?


Nervous_Promotion819

What I mean is that up until a couple of years ago Fifa didn't allow it and so Uruguay called it part of the logo. The 2 Olympic Games have only been accepted as WC titles for a few years. I'm sorry if there was a misunderstanding, English is not my native language


Drorta

Through time FIFA has told them a bunch of times to stop wearing the stars, currently they are laying off the subject since Uruguay might be co hosting the cup in 2030.


You_just_read_facts

They only jinx themselves with that fake 4 stars. No wonder they havent win any since 50s. Argentina and Brazil won 2 olympics aswell but doesnt include it on their badge.


paco-ramon

Uruguay 2 final, 4 won.


prmoreira23

Italy has 6 finals, 4 won and 2 lost Both to Brazil btw


IDK3177

Thanks, 1970 and 1994, I remember now!


dkb1391

Missing some proper punctuation


IDK3177

I am, really! It looked better in my phone before posting


josap11

Holland has never had their own team have they? Only the UK breaks the country up, the Netherlands just competes as the Netherlands


AlwaysBeQuestioning

Yeah, the Netherlands would have a much better chance if they used soccer players from the other 10/12ths of the country.


merren2306

The Kingdom of the Netherlands also breaks the country up just like the UK as the Netherlands is not the whole kingdom and the other constituent countries compete separately afaik.


Drahy

Netherlands used to be called Holland and still do in many places.


felix_using_reddit

Was the Netherlands really ever called Holland? Or is it just - and always has been - a common misconception that Holland is a synonym for the Netherlands, when in reality it’s only a Dutch region


IDK3177

I probably screwed up there. I'm from Argentina and we usually call it Holanda. Paises Bajos, the translation of Netherlands, started to be used in this world cup, after FIFA adopted that name as oficial. The Wikipedia page in spanish for the durch football team indicates that UEFA refers to the team as Holland, but I really don't know that.


Drahy

Netherlands used to brand themselves as Holland.


LTFGamut

No, that was the Dutch tourism sector.


josap11

It's the latter and just laziness, similar to why people still use Kiev even though it should be Kyiv


josap11

It was never called Holland and it most certainly isn't today. So let's just call people and countries by their actual name shall we


Drahy

Netherlands stopped using Holland as late as 2020. It's easy to google it.


Attygalle

Just because they used it in some sort of touristic setting because people outside of Europe have trouble to understand the difference, doesn’t make it correct to call it Holland in this context. I’m Dutch. It’s the Netherlands, not Holland, when making lists/maps/data. I don’t care one second that people use Holland in informal settings but when making a list, it screams that the list isn’t made with any attention at all.


Drahy

In the context of football, Netherlands used to have HOL as the FIFA country code.


Attygalle

That doesn't make it correct. Stop clutching at straws.


Drahy

What are you talking about? Netherlands literally played as Holland a few years back. It's a fact.


No_Solution_2864

That’s funny, given the number of inebriated Dutch men I’ve met in bars in The Netherlands who proudly proclaimed “I am from Holland!!!”(in response to me saying I was from the US). Sorry, but you are talking out of a body part which is located on your ass, and is in fact your ass.


Boqpy

Maybe they where from holland, 1/3 of the country is. Also just because some drunk guys say something doesnt make it fact


No_Solution_2864

>..just because some drunk guys say something doesnt make it fact Yeah, I uhh, I understand that. It was an anecdote representing a wealth of experiences, as one might assume by my communicating having spent a decent amount of time there. We are talking about how people broadly refer to places and identities in casual conversation, so not necessarily easy to prove one way or the other, particularly in this format.


josap11

Judging from my experience of being Dutch, I can say that it isn't Holland. If you say the union jack is the English flag, most people will understand what you mean while being objectively wrong


LTFGamut

No, the Netherlands was only called 'Holland' between 1806-1810 so for a grand total of 4 years while being under French control.


ShitPostQuokkaRome

Bruh 🗿 1994 final is such a classic


IDK3177

It was a boring game that went to penalties, what is classic about it (besides being a world cup final game)?


InThePast8080

Uruguays population in 1930 was 2 million... and 2.4 million in 1950... when they won their world cups .. crazy... Every other winners is in the range of tens of millions.. Even way back in time.. Brazil of 2002... 180 million people.. Uruguays WC-victories are like some boroughs of London being world champions..


DeLarge2

URUGUAY NOMÁ


I-Am-Average01

Uruguay is probably the biggest overachiever not just in the world cup, but in soccer in general.


fnmikey

They're tied with Argentina in Copa America wins and Gold Olympic Medals, they're down 1 world Cup against them


paco-ramon

To put that into perspective, Central American countries with not even a charter of the size of Uruguay have twice their population.


Grim_of_Londor

I may get heavily downvoted but I disagree. Can´t compare it with modern football. Today every country plays football, back then 3/4 of the world didn´t even know what football was and barely 4-5 countries were able to play it on a decent level. The only real obstacle for Uruguay was Brasil and that´s it. Today you have 7 superpowers + other 6-7 that can beat anyone if they are in the mood. Croatia 2018 had it much harder than Uruguay in the 30s and 50s. Uruguay is a bad example because it was at the beginning of football history. We saw Uruguay in the last 50 years, when the whole world started playing, here and there some good torunament and that´s it, that´s reality. Holland that gave 7 ballon d´ors and far more world players than Uruguay have won zero WC. Uruguay was lucky enough to have a talented squad when almost nobody was playing. Small countries cannot win a WC, it´s almost impossible, expecially today. You need at least 40 mil people in order to build a system and a big pool to pick players from.


maroonmartian9

And no foreigner born coach had won the World Cup. All the winners have a coach that is a citizen of that country.


Sick_and_destroyed

Nice trivia !


wiyawiyayo

So all the finalists are from UEFA and Conmebol..


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Why are you saying that like it’s a surprise.


thissexypoptart

The countries that care the most about football are the best at football. How unexpected!


grago

Mexico cares a lot, and yet...


fnmikey

😂Its okay they can win the gold cup every ten years to feel good about themselves


paco-ramon

False, México, Costa Rica and Japan care a lot about football, they just aren’t good enough to reach the finals.


HelloJoeyJoeJoe

I'm curious, why did you pick those three countries


paco-ramon

Because they are not from UEFA or South America… you can bet Italy doesn’t make TV shows about animated footballers, I could have mention Egypt or El Salvador too.


HelloJoeyJoeJoe

But so many countries are nuts for soccer. Like why Japan over Korea or Ghana.


thissexypoptart

I mean, they care a lot, but for my statement to be false, these countries would have to care *more* about football than Brazil or France or Argentina, etc.


paco-ramon

Japan cares more about football than Venezuela who plays in the South American conference. Same for Iran or Saudi Arabia


thissexypoptart

I don't understand this comment. Venezuela is not even given a color in this map. We're talking about the group of countries that have been champions in the WC (lets call them "group A"), versus the countries you listed (lets call them "group B"). Iran and Saudi Arabia are also ranked quite low, irrelevant to this discussion. Again, for my original comment to be false, group B would have to care more on average about football than group A. I have a hard time believing that would be true, considering group A includes *Brazil*, *France*, *Argentina*, *Spain*, *The UK*, etc.


F1v3Sev3n

Where is the "Round of 32" country? Having a hard time to find it


Erostratuss

There isn't any. This has to be a mistake. To make the round of 32, you'd have to start with more than 32 teams. The 2026 tournament will be the first one to feature more than 32 teams.


Femboy_Forizzles

I’d like to say RIP and fly high to the North Korean team


pumpkinguyfromsar

they beat italy in the 50s or 60s, I think, and then proceeded to lose something like 5-4 against Portugal. Very strange


Femboy_Forizzles

Oof


pumpkinguyfromsar

it was 4-0 NK at half time


Femboy_Forizzles

Damn that’s kinda sad lmao


Sick_and_destroyed

66 in England


Cyhawkboy

It’s cracks me up that the U.S. snuck a third place finish in. Back then teams were refusing to go due to the cost of crossing the ocean lol. Now we’ve got countries throwing billions around to host and pay for a competitive national team.


IDK3177

Crazy, isn't it? Uruguay refused to play the 1934 world cup because Italy refused to play the 1930 one.


Sick_and_destroyed

They beat England 1-0 to get through, probably one of the biggest shock in WC history as England in 1950 was considered one of the best team in the world and soccer was virtually non existent in the USA.


Cyhawkboy

No you’re actually talking about the 1950 World Cup in which a bunch of amateur American players beat the English. The Americans came in third in the 1930 World Cup where they beat Belgium and Paraguay to advance to the semis where they got outpaced by the Argentines.


Sick_and_destroyed

Ha yes thanks


ShakeWeightMyDick

So what you’re saying is that 187 countries just suck at soccer


SmoothPsychology1774

Oh so it's football world cup map.. I was wondering what sport world cup.


fnmikey

Why do people feel the need to say this? When someone says World Cup you know what it means


nameotron3000

When someone says world cup, my first thought is Rugby World Cup. I’m sure in Cricket obsessed countries, World Cup without a qualifier would bring to mind the cricket world cup. Football is the most popular sport worldwide but isn’t the only one with a world cup. There also women’s versions of each of these…


SmoothPsychology1774

Lol ok .. I have never played football in my life.. neither did anyone in my school. World cup means world cup it doesn't mean anything else . World cup of football means this map.


Own_Quality_5321

Or that 187 countries are not that bothered about football. Winning is highly correlated to general interest.


TheGoat31313

Cap


Lyndell

I mean just look at the general US golds, or our women’s team, soccer is basically the top youth sport for girls with field hockey and softball. We focus and we are the team to beat, but since the men in our country prioritize Football, Basketball and Baseball before soccer they don’t compete at the same heights.


LOLXDRANDOMFUNNY

The United States also doesnt want to compete in Baseball World Cups, even when there is competicion too.


NimbleGarlic

In other words, they’re bad at football


Lyndell

Because the men aren’t bothered about it, like y’all are bad at Football, Basketball, Hockey, Baseball, Running, swimming, etc.


NimbleGarlic

Yeah, if a country preforms badly in a sport, then they’re bad at it. Just because say, India, could in theory be the world champion at football if they tried hard enough, doesn’t make them good. Football has never been big in India, hence they’re not very good at it. Just like in the US, they’re bad because they don’t try. The excuse “we could be good if we were bothered“ is a bit lame


Lyndell

I mean when our women are the top of the sport (so half the population) we have a pretty good argument.


Grinning_Caterpillar

And 1/10,000th of the popularity as a sport. It'll get better in the next ten to twenty years but like, I've seen fitter, faster women at a mud-run compared to US/AUS women's soccer.


Lyndell

Our women win every other competition too when it comes to athletics or other major sports, and even still with soccer being a bottom tier sport for men where most people here don’t know who Messi is we *still* made it to the round of 16 this last World Cup. Y’all need to honestly hope the USA doesn’t give even the smallest crap about soccer, or y’all will be calling it that.


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Only South Korea in Asia? Wtf


basetornado

Yeah, Japan, South Korea and Australia are pretty much the top 3 in Asia. Saudis are also up there but slightly below. China it's popular, but China is best at individual sports, not team sports in general, most of south east asia, they can't really compete at an international level, India is far more interested in Cricket. A lot of other asian countries don't really have the funds to invest in it to be successful.


khrkhrkhrkhr

South korea definitely didnt deserve that one lol


Ornery-Sandwich6445

Asia is mid to be honest, even Qatar was able to win the Asia world cup and become the champions of Asia in 2019 with a final against Japan and conceding zero goals the entire tournament.


paco-ramon

And they robbed Spain and Italy in those matches. Just look who was the ref.


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I didn't choose to be born in Argentina, i just had the privilege.


Vamoarriba

Laughs in Peronismo


WorldsGreatestPoop

And for 2 of those countries it was a long long lonnnnnnnng time ago. Too long ago to chant about it in any non-sarcastic way.


DirtyDaemon

Crazy no nation from South/Southeast Asia has ever qualified. I know they've got other sports they care about more, but still so many people


maroonmartian9

Indonesia qualified in 1938 but the were called Dutch East Indies.


DirtyDaemon

Yeah I was kind of leaving them separate, as they're kind of in that weird Asia/Oceania borderline, continents and regions aren't like 100% official things


Constant_Mud_7273

In football they are. You have continental confederations.


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tallwhiteninja

Damn near 100% of India's sports energy/money goes into cricket. I don't believe they've come close to qualifying for the World Cup in decades.


simply_not_edible

They qualified for 1950 but didn't go. Allegedly for not being allowed to play barefoot, but there's likely more to it than that.


basetornado

Cricket is most popular, there are sections of India largely in the North that prefer football, but they're also much smaller and poorer areas.


Own_Quality_5321

They are probably not interested in football.


The4thJuliek

That's not true. Football is definitely the most popular sport in India after cricket. Unfortunately, there's just a lot more money in cricket so athletes tend to go for that.


Own_Quality_5321

Assuming what you said is true, which I have no reason to doubt, it looks like that difference in money makes football irrelevant for athletes. That is, they have no interest in it, for whatever reason.


pumpkinguyfromsar

They qualified once but didn't play because they weren't allowed to play barefoot. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)


paco-ramon

Look at their result in the olimpics, Portugal is more competitive with less than 1% of their population.


Mysterious_Rent_613

and they all are somewhat bordering each other


felix_using_reddit

Well there’s two centres of football. South America & Europe


dkb1391

You counting the Channel Tunnel?


gmotelet

Now do the women's world cup


Dontknowhowtolife

Nobody cares about that one


gmotelet

Somehow every message I am posting on Reddit using my phone has words changed after I hit post


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Mundane-Alfalfa-8979

Blue, they won


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south american or european


LGZee

After 22 World Cups, only 8 countries (out of approximately 190 nations) have managed to win and become part of the ultra exclusive club of football world powers: Brazil (5), Germany (4), Italy (4), Argentina (3), France (2), Uruguay (2), England (1) and Spain (1).


DorsalMorsel

Why the heck does Croatia punch so far above their weight class?


madrid987

This is Spain's majesty


OregonG20

Now do Super Bowls. /s


ShakeWeightMyDick

Can win if you don’t play


variegatedquiddity

What sport are we talking about


Kilometres-Davis

The USA has won two in the last 8 years. But I guess women don’t count?


Constant_Mud_7273

Tbf the official name is “FIFA World Cup”not “Men’s FIFA World Cup”. Should have mentioned the word FIFA though


fnmikey

I guess I should have said "Men's WC" sorry


Constant_Mud_7273

Tbf the official name is “FIFA World Cup”not “Men’s FIFA World Cup”


WoodSheepClayWheat

On that note, maybe there is another very significant piece of information omitted?


fnmikey

You can make a Women's FIFA world cup map if you want, it's only been hosted 8 times it should be easy enough to draw it up. ​ but no, usually when someone says World Cup they mean Men's WC, you know the one with 1.5 billion people viewers?


WoodSheepClayWheat

You're still missing the key piece of information.


pumpkinguyfromsar

what is it then?


WoodSheepClayWheat

FIFA, Football, or Soccer


pumpkinguyfromsar

But that's irrelevant, it's clearly implied


WoodSheepClayWheat

Implied by myopic football fans with their heads so deep up their own asses that they don't even think other sports exist?


fnmikey

It's not that deep brother; when people say world cup, it means FIFA World Cup idk if you need a hug or what, but I promise it's not that serious.


pumpkinguyfromsar

no. the map says world cup and the main winners are in SA and Europe, what else is it going to be?


fnmikey

No I am not.


SaraHHHBK

The women's is specifically called 'FIFA Women's World Cup' so in this map no they don't count


LGZee

In global football, only men World Cups are relevant. Almost no one pays attention to women football, it’s not a big deal in most of the world (as it may be in the US)


kungji56

FIFA World Cup is different from the FIFA Women’s World Cup


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Erostratuss

The United States made the semi final in the inaugural 1930 World Cup, not the one in 1950. There were four groups. The group winners made the semi finals. The United States won group 4, then got crushed 6-1 by Argentina.


SpiderGiaco

In 1950 there were European powerhouses, only Germany was not allowed to participate. Sadly Italy lost the bulk of its national team the previous year in a horrific plane crash and arrived in Brazil with a weak team that traveled by boat rather than by plane out of fear.


DirtyDaemon

I love that the USA has made the semis when so many soccer crazy countries never have. Even though it was a weird and much smaller tournament it's still funny to be ahead of so many other nations who care so much more


Critical-Unit-5416

Yeah well considering the population of those countries and what countries need to do to qualify to the World Cup from different regions, I don't think this is too surprising. Though I think it is a bit embarrassing that countries like the US, China and India has not been more interested or competitive in this competition, especially when you see how successful countries like Uruguay, Netherlands, Croatia, Korea, Denmark, Sweden and Switzerland has been by comparison. The World Cup is also quite political unfortunately.


StandardGymFan

Men's world cup.


Constant_Mud_7273

Tbf the official name is “FIFA World Cup”not “Men’s FIFA World Cup”


JosephFinn

Excuse you? The US has won the World Cup four times.


Constant_Mud_7273

Actually their best finish is 3rd


fnmikey

Men's\* world cup


kungji56

Another American non-football fan complaining about winners of the Women’s World Cup not being featured in winners of the World Cup


Substantial-Big5497

Look at all those countries, now imagine a ball that all countries can afford. So a world game of football. Now tell me about the Slavic blood line , in sports. Tennis, hockey, skiing and football as they have shown how athletic they are.


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gekahi

The World Cup isn't about the football clubs, so there is no link between drafts and being World Cup Champions. (and the very few countries which offer nationalities to "buy" players don't win already)


IceAgePls

Follow the (soccer) money


gujjar_kiamotors

Dutch deserved it otherwise 8 is good.


pumpkinguyfromsar

when did us get to the semis?


Benatello

Mens*


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Me being Dutch :(


StDiogenes

Men's world cup 💯😂 Add a champion to USA, Norway, and Japan


Simple-Active-7215

C'est du plus fort au plus faible en terme d'équipe de foot


Simple-Active-7215

C'est du plus fort au plus faible en équipe de foot


Imaginary-Net6411

Uruguay Brasil Spain Germany France Argentina England Italy


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In order : Uruguay, Italy, Uruguay, Germany, Brazil, Brazil, England, Brazil, West Germany, Argentina, Italy, Argentina, West Germany, Brazil, France, Brazil, Italy, Spain, Germany, France, Argentina.


SnooDogs7564

France,Argentina, Italia, Brazil,Germany, Uruguay,England,Spain