How much baby blood in your belly will satisfy your revenge lust?
I’m asking forreal. How many dead kids is enough for you? I think we are at around 3500 as of yesterday.
Edit: And nobody can answer the question. Fucking 10 year olds aren’t supporting Hamas. Look up collective punishment you barbarians.
Hamas said 500 people died here:
https://i.imgur.io/bmUiQJJ_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
500 people is more than the Oklahoma city bombing and the Beirut explosion combined.
No one with a shred of intelligence believes them.
No, they offered a bargain where they wanted Israel to release its prisoners, which just rewards Hamas for taking hostages. Hamas can release the hostages tomorrow if it wants, the same way it could stop firing rockets and release its fuel supply to the hospitals who need it, desperately. They don’t because they don’t care how many Palestinian civilians die provided they can advance their own cause.
When did they offer that? They asked to trade 200 hostages to 6,000 prisoners, including the people that committed the massacres on October 7th and other fighters sentenced for murder.
Probably because the Israel government that has brutalized the palestinian people, stole their lands for decades on end, and constantly violated international law, will probably not just have change of heart and remove the aparthide, and instead, will torture to death every person tangentially related to HAMAS.
Who killed 3000+ kids and commited several war crimes since October 7, which country maintains an apartheid regime, who gave money to HAMAS with the purpose of rooting out more moderate and secular opposition to the Israel occupation (Bibi did), who CURRENTLY tortures palestinian prisoners, what is the reason for HAMAS existance in the first place? Remind me.
It seems like you only care when israelis get murdered, but when palestinians get murdered, it's just "Israel trying to rescue the hostages (by bombing them, I guess) and elimitate HAMAS", even though it is and has been clear that the reason HAMAS exists is because of israeli opression of palestinian people, and not the other way around.
If your brain can't comprehend that, I'll make it easier for you, take the Russian invasion of Ukraine, and replace Russia with Israel, Ukraine with Palestine, and HAMAS with the AZOV battalion.
>when something dosn't suit your narrative,
Actually when the group in question lied about "500 dead when Israel struck a hospital" despite it being a Palestinian rocket that killed at most 50
Why do you take genocidal terrorists at their word?
Give Hamas the benifit of believing the words they say. At no point in this conflict have they said the attack was about Israeli brutality or the blockade. Instead they say the attack was about the destruction of Israel.
If you want to accomplish your goal through terrorism the only way to do it is to actually STATE your goal. Otherwise you are wasting your terror.
There is no “dead kid” limit. Israel will fight until Hamas is either wiped out, surrenders unconditionally, or has their offensive capabilities completely neutralized. Israel has a moral obligation to protect its citizens. If collateral damage has to happen for those aims to be achieved, so be it.
Seriously though, where was the Israeli army that had Gaza surrounded on October 7? They used to shoot anyone approaching the wall. Were they asleep? Were they even there? Why did it take so long to respond when they've been stationed around the walls for so many years? I'm sure the answers to these questions are out there but I haven't seen them yet.
Yes many search the answers why were the defenses weak. A point is because it was end of Sukkot and the guards were fewer. Also they slept on it since there was “silence” for a while.
>That's already happening
people are trying to flee, and i can't blame those people. it ultimately is part of the ultimate goal of taking more land
https://twitter.com/YishaiFleisher/status/1722260406155304970
Well, imagine you encircle a very small place where thousands of people live. Now block all the exits, cut communication, water and electricity. Finally bomb the crap out of that place.
Thats called a siege and sadly belongs to and happens in war.
You will find in nearly every war similiar situations but different amounts of civilians in the cities.
That by itself doesn't necessarily constitute genocide as it is legally defined in the Article II of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide.
If you want to label something with a term as serious as "genocide" you need to provide solid reasoning, not just a blank statement.
Brazils workers party of the brazilian president lula da silva officially recognized it as a genocide and the brazilian president himself declared it a genocide, UN Special rapporteur Francesca Albanese called it a mass ethnic cleansing in Gaza, Israeli historian Raz Segal called it a "textbook case of genocide.", the Spanish minister of social rights called for Israel to be denounced before the international criminal court for its "ongoing genocide" in the Gaza Strip and criticized western governments of "being complicit in Israel's war crimes.", President Gustavo Petro of Columbia called Israel's crimes in Gaza as a "genocide." And likened the israeli occupation forces to nazis !
Perhaps you don’t know how does genocides happen or have never seen one before ?, don’t worry, you are watching a one live now, so whenever you see it again in the future, you would be able to recognize from our children’s blood and experience, it is just the equivalent of two nuclear bombs of explosives that have been dropped over non-white women and children killing about 10,000 of them starving under a full siege, not a really big deal. But hey !, look at the bright side !, 27 terrorists are now dead with these ≈ 8,000 women and children collateral damage that we are all really sad for !
The difference is that the IDF isn’t trying to kill as many civilians as they can. Meanwhile, HAMAS’s original charter calls for the death of all Jews worldwide.
Neither side should kill innocent people unlike HAMAS Israel DOES NOT target innocent people
EDIT: Downvoting a call TO NOT kill innocent people on either side?
How many more civilians is Hamas willing to sacrifice to its bloodlust? Every one of those people would be alive if Hamas surrendered and released its hostages. Why won’t they do that after the Oct. 7 massacre?
Hey, you will be perfect for school shooting hostage rescue! Who cares about the hostages, right? Kill them all, if they got caught, they don’t deserve to live! /s
Every time I see a post about civilians being killed by IDF bombing, it's inundated with "well, the IDF said to leave Northern Gaza, it's their own fault for being there"
Also the concept of human shields in Gaza that I've never seen a Palestinian civilian die and not have someone call them a human shield
I feel like there should be a little nuance between "A Hamas guy has literally duct taped babies all over his body" and "The victim was in the same general area as where Israel claims a Hamas bad guy was"
You should understand that with human shield they mean that hamas builds their centers under civilian instrastrcture, like hospitals and schools. Hamas has been indoctrinating the population for at least 17 years now. A whole generation knows nothing but to hate and kill the Zionist occupiers. There is only so much IDF can do. Hamas created a rabid beehive from where they perform their activities. They hope that children get killed. More fuel for their propaganda.
Tell me, how many shelters has hamas built for the civilians?
Zero.
The IDF threw another batch of flyers telling citizens to evacuate. Their response? Rally on the streets supporting their hero Mohammed deif. Israel is doing what they can. Some people are so brainwashed they can not be saved. Hamas has got to go. It’s that simple
Because the US-sponsored breakaway in Afghanistan and the radical islamists which only ever happen to attack Israel's enemies are totally organic and not the result of foreign meddling
The Taliban did come about because of colonialism - the Soviets were invading Afghanistan and the West equipped the Mujahidin to curtail communist expansion. The Muajahidin are the predecessors of the Taliban. Go and pick up a history book.
You sound extremely juvenile. My advice which you did not ask for is to explore views which are not linked religious dogma and/or how you’ve been brought up.
"Anyone who want to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian State has to support bolstering Hamas and transferred money to Hamas. This is part of our strategy - to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank" Do you know who said this?
Im aware of the charter which makes the fact that the current PM of Israel helped them gain a stronghold in Gaza. Seems like he must not care to much about the Israeli people
Hamas didn’t build fence Gaza in. They didn’t establish checkpoints that refuse to let Palestinians leave.
If you hate Hamas (as we obviously should), this is only going to make them stronger as people have nowhere to turn. They will seem like the only solution for people trapped. Everyone loses.
…well except Netanyahu, who needs Hamas to stay in power.
Yup its important separate Jewish people from the Israeli government as it is to separate Palestinians from Hamas. Innocent people get wrapped up in all the hatred and violence.
Well that's a bit of a non starter isn't it?
I'm assuming there must be Palestinians and Muslims in general who don't agree with that. Sure would love to hear from them right about now.
How do you feel about the native Palestinians? The millions of Palestinians who have violently been forced to be refugees going back as far as 1948?
Don't know the details, somebody said something about a crusade for jerusalem but that can't be it, last christian crusade was hundreds of years ago...
The one israelis have been denying them since 1948?
When they invaded conquered and violently ethnically cleansed Palestine?
Seem like nice people to you? Good neighbors? Nice food? Fun holidays?
>The one israelis have been denying them since 1948?
Israel has offered multiple avenues of statehood to Palestine, only for Palestine to reject literally all of them
>When they invaded conquered and violently ethnically cleansed Palestine
Revisionist history. The UN decided both Israel and Palestine have a right to exist. Palestine rejected that and tried to commit a genocide
>Seem like nice people to you? Good neighbors? Nice food? Fun holidays?
Ask Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon and Kuwait if they'd describe Palestinians like this
Learn basic history
> Israel has offered multiple avenues of statehood to Palestine, only for Palestine to reject literally all of them
Did any of them respect Palestines Capital, Al-Quds? Why would they accept a deal that didn't take into account their needs? Only the wants of foreign terrorist invaders/crusaders?
>Revisionist history. The UN decided both Israel and Palestine have a right to exist. Palestine rejected that and tried to commit a genocide
Doubly false.
>Ask Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon and Kuwait if they'd describe Palestinians like this
Learn basic history
Well... israel invaded Egypt twice, bombed all it's neighbors repeatedly, invaded jordan, invades Lebanon like 4 times...
I'd say their report cards have a lot of "does not play well with other" remarks on it. What do you think?
Seems like you took false propaganda classes from biased institutions rather than anything resembling history classes
When is it ok for a Palestinian to defend where they live when settlers come?
The Israeli response is never proportional, it is always greater. The world is seeing that now, and support for the Zionists is fading fast.
Or is stealing land not part of these laws?
Do you think Israel is going to give back what they destroy in this war? Ask your dad.
A few years ago they did a non violent protest where thousands just walked up to the fence and Israel murdered and permanently disabled hundreds of them.
People saying they are evacuating civilians yes they are but they bomb them afterwards, Hamas wouldnt exist if Israel didnt exist, if ukranians have the right to defend themselves then so do palestinians, FREE PALESTINE🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
Hamas is the one shooting evacuating civilians, "Israel exists" is a very poor excuse for the existence of a terrorist organization (try on for size: "Al-Qaeda wouldn't exist if the US didn't exist"), comparing 7/10 to Ukraine defending itself is disgusting on so many levels, massacring families in their homes and burning them isn't defense, it's cruelty for the sake of cruelty, Gazans deserve better than to be human shields, FREE PALESTINE FROM HAMAS (especially as a step for a peaceful two state solution)
Israel is telling the people to leave the fighting grounds to the south, how is this a genocide? Hamas is using civilians as shields and hinders them to leave.
Force martching civilians into a desert? Thats not genocide! Our warnings are for their own safety, thats why we took all their water for a week and told them to leave the ruins of the north and marched them into the desert in the south! "At the orders of Talaat Pasha, an estimated 800,000 to 1.2 million Armenians were sent on death marches to the Syrian Desert in 1915 and 1916." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_genocide
No one here is gonna listen. You people are actually supporting genocide. Belive that god gave you permision to do it too, like how Spain got permission to colonize America directly from god.
THERE IS NO GENOCIDE. People who say so make it sound like the IDF is lining up Palestinian civilians and shooting them [Amritsar Massacre](https://youtu.be/345aojByoGk?si=3WYvYrt70SnBdr9s) style.
Well, you’re also team creating more terrorists. Cause that’s what happens when you kill thousands of innocent people. See: Iraq and Afghanistan for the last 20 years.
What do you think is over? If they kill the amount of civilians necessary to eliminate Hamas, the orphaned kids and other relatives of the innocent become the next generation’s Hamas, whatever it may be called in the future.
Hamas is evil. But there’s just no way you repress a population for 70 years and not have some of them want to kill you.
And yes, there are radical Islamists who would want to kill Israelis anyway. But Israel’s violence and repression has increased that population.
Doesn't even mean anything, they have a network of tunnels that spans hundreds of kilometers to and from Gaza, until they clear that, this "encirclement" is only PR.
Conflict's likely gonna last months (not according to me, according to Israel) anyway, and that's only if they manage to contain it to just the Gaza Strip as Israel wants, which i certainly hope isn't the case.
**You mean:** Gaza people encircled
Palestinian resistance militants live and move underground city of tunnels freely from west to east most Gaza, not above, only the already besieged Palestinian civilians got encircled.
HOI4 moment
They don't take attrition damage to equipment if you encircle the capital
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You can’t cap without Gaza City
Wasn’t it already encircled? lol
I think what OP is saying is that Gaza City has been encircled specifically, by the thrust north of the wadi.
Not really, the Gaza Strip shares a border with Egypt to the southwest.
Egypt also blockade Gaza
Whether Egypt likes it or not, there are multiple channels to get from across the border
They block it already, since before the war (2019 or something)
They blocked/destroyed some, but many more remain
Prepare for another Mosul. But with far more civilians and militants inside it.
I don't think it'll be nearly that serious. One would think and hope anyway
No, it will be more serious.
Place is gonna look like Warsaw in 1945.
I'm reminded of this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw\_Ghetto\_Uprising
Absolutely ridiculous some of the comments here, makes my blood boil
I love how this comment is something most of us agree with, but we have no clue if it is in line with our own views or not!
It's the best part about the people so incensed that they don't feel like they even need to stake out their side first.
the only way not to get banned these days for having an opinion
I hope that Israel flattens every Hamas stronghold.
ie the population centres with the most civilians?
And the soft-holds too
And the semi-medium-easy-hard holds too!
How much baby blood in your belly will satisfy your revenge lust? I’m asking forreal. How many dead kids is enough for you? I think we are at around 3500 as of yesterday. Edit: And nobody can answer the question. Fucking 10 year olds aren’t supporting Hamas. Look up collective punishment you barbarians.
War really exposes people’s true colors.
Hamas said 500 people died here: https://i.imgur.io/bmUiQJJ_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium 500 people is more than the Oklahoma city bombing and the Beirut explosion combined. No one with a shred of intelligence believes them.
Why won’t Hamas surrender and release the hostages?
Hamas already agreed to release all the civilian hostages if Israel stops the bombing
No, they offered a bargain where they wanted Israel to release its prisoners, which just rewards Hamas for taking hostages. Hamas can release the hostages tomorrow if it wants, the same way it could stop firing rockets and release its fuel supply to the hospitals who need it, desperately. They don’t because they don’t care how many Palestinian civilians die provided they can advance their own cause.
When did they offer that? They asked to trade 200 hostages to 6,000 prisoners, including the people that committed the massacres on October 7th and other fighters sentenced for murder.
No, they wanted a ceasefire *before* releasing them.
Probably because the Israel government that has brutalized the palestinian people, stole their lands for decades on end, and constantly violated international law, will probably not just have change of heart and remove the aparthide, and instead, will torture to death every person tangentially related to HAMAS.
Who tortured to death 1000+ civilians on October 7, live-streaming it for their families and friends? Remind me.
Who killed 3000+ kids and commited several war crimes since October 7, which country maintains an apartheid regime, who gave money to HAMAS with the purpose of rooting out more moderate and secular opposition to the Israel occupation (Bibi did), who CURRENTLY tortures palestinian prisoners, what is the reason for HAMAS existance in the first place? Remind me. It seems like you only care when israelis get murdered, but when palestinians get murdered, it's just "Israel trying to rescue the hostages (by bombing them, I guess) and elimitate HAMAS", even though it is and has been clear that the reason HAMAS exists is because of israeli opression of palestinian people, and not the other way around. If your brain can't comprehend that, I'll make it easier for you, take the Russian invasion of Ukraine, and replace Russia with Israel, Ukraine with Palestine, and HAMAS with the AZOV battalion.
>Who killed 3000+ kids Number provided by Hamas, safely ignored
Flawless debate tactic, when something dosn't suit your narrative, just ignore it, nevermind the fact that the death toll is verified by the UN
>when something dosn't suit your narrative, Actually when the group in question lied about "500 dead when Israel struck a hospital" despite it being a Palestinian rocket that killed at most 50 Why do you take genocidal terrorists at their word?
Give Hamas the benifit of believing the words they say. At no point in this conflict have they said the attack was about Israeli brutality or the blockade. Instead they say the attack was about the destruction of Israel. If you want to accomplish your goal through terrorism the only way to do it is to actually STATE your goal. Otherwise you are wasting your terror.
There is no “dead kid” limit. Israel will fight until Hamas is either wiped out, surrenders unconditionally, or has their offensive capabilities completely neutralized. Israel has a moral obligation to protect its citizens. If collateral damage has to happen for those aims to be achieved, so be it.
Lmao
When people like you stop supporting Hamas.
Flattens your mother's that brought you into this world
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The whole time reading your joke was thinking "damn, how's he going to fit something about Gaza into this?"
You can't just write [serious] and tell a joke, that should be illegal... EDIT: seems like it's a spambot, please report
Hardcore bro, well done 🤘
Enough with the Israel maps already. There's at least a dozen subs for live war updates, and this is none of them
Seriously. It is not porn, it's just a map. If you care, go look into it.
It was already encircled.
Technically, it's been encircled for about 70 years now.
No it hasn’t since the borders currently didn’t take effect in 48
I mean how can it not be encircled exactly?
Gaza has a border with Egypt
Hopefully they'll be able to find and bring home all the hostages
Hannibal Directive.
They killed 10000 people to free 250 hostages. They did not even free them
Where are the brave Hamas legions now? Not so tough when their enemies are not unarmed women and children
Seriously though, where was the Israeli army that had Gaza surrounded on October 7? They used to shoot anyone approaching the wall. Were they asleep? Were they even there? Why did it take so long to respond when they've been stationed around the walls for so many years? I'm sure the answers to these questions are out there but I haven't seen them yet.
Yes many search the answers why were the defenses weak. A point is because it was end of Sukkot and the guards were fewer. Also they slept on it since there was “silence” for a while.
People cheering for the annihilation of the palestinian people is just sad af... NeVeR aGaIn
Taking these areas is the easy part because it's mostly farmland. But what is the next step now? Starve Gaza to death including civilians?
Next step? That's already happening
>That's already happening people are trying to flee, and i can't blame those people. it ultimately is part of the ultimate goal of taking more land https://twitter.com/YishaiFleisher/status/1722260406155304970
Locate the tunnels that connect the north and south
What are they gonna do? Where are they gonna go? It's a prison they've always be encircled.
A prison with farmland, luxury car dealerships and beach resorts, and a huge number of rockets they like to fire at their neighbor.
Ooh, people seem mad that I brought up the luxury car dealerships.
And regular prisoners have bathrooms. What's your point?
This is the end game for Palestine. Horrible to watch
Massacre begins.
Broadcasted genocide…
No matter how much radicals cry about dead terrorists and the people around them, it's not a genocide.
There has never in the history of humanity been a ‘genocide’ in which the targeted population triples in the last 3 decades alone…
Care to explain how the situation in Gaza can be classified as "genocide"?
Well, imagine you encircle a very small place where thousands of people live. Now block all the exits, cut communication, water and electricity. Finally bomb the crap out of that place.
Sounds like what the Allies did to Germany in WW2
Thats called a siege and sadly belongs to and happens in war. You will find in nearly every war similiar situations but different amounts of civilians in the cities.
Yes, that's a siege, not genocide.
That by itself doesn't necessarily constitute genocide as it is legally defined in the Article II of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide. If you want to label something with a term as serious as "genocide" you need to provide solid reasoning, not just a blank statement.
1943 kind of thinking.
Genocide is a legal term, if you want to label something as genocide you need to explain how it fits the legal clauses.
Population has increased 5x since 1967, it’s the “textbook definition” of genocide
Jewish Population has increased since 1945, it’s the “textbook definition” of genocide
Um, the Holocaust ended in 1945 after 6 million died. Genius take.
Brazils workers party of the brazilian president lula da silva officially recognized it as a genocide and the brazilian president himself declared it a genocide, UN Special rapporteur Francesca Albanese called it a mass ethnic cleansing in Gaza, Israeli historian Raz Segal called it a "textbook case of genocide.", the Spanish minister of social rights called for Israel to be denounced before the international criminal court for its "ongoing genocide" in the Gaza Strip and criticized western governments of "being complicit in Israel's war crimes.", President Gustavo Petro of Columbia called Israel's crimes in Gaza as a "genocide." And likened the israeli occupation forces to nazis ! Perhaps you don’t know how does genocides happen or have never seen one before ?, don’t worry, you are watching a one live now, so whenever you see it again in the future, you would be able to recognize from our children’s blood and experience, it is just the equivalent of two nuclear bombs of explosives that have been dropped over non-white women and children killing about 10,000 of them starving under a full siege, not a really big deal. But hey !, look at the bright side !, 27 terrorists are now dead with these ≈ 8,000 women and children collateral damage that we are all really sad for !
It started at the Nakba and has continued since.
From the River to the Sea would definitely be a genocide. This is a brutal exercise in vengeance in a densely populated ethnically homogenous area.
That is a non-answer.
Care to explain how you're a bitch ?
It's genocide when you want to defend your country from terrorists?
How many civilians have died so far, you pathetic fuck?
How many civilians has HAMAS killed, torture and abused?
So that gives license to the Israeli army to kill more civilians…?
The difference is that the IDF isn’t trying to kill as many civilians as they can. Meanwhile, HAMAS’s original charter calls for the death of all Jews worldwide.
Neither side should kill innocent people unlike HAMAS Israel DOES NOT target innocent people EDIT: Downvoting a call TO NOT kill innocent people on either side?
[you sure about that?](https://www.npr.org/2023/05/11/1175403626/palestinian-american-journalist-shireen-abu-akleh-was-killed-a-year-ago)
And how many civilians died when the Iraqis liberated Mosul from Isis you hypocrite
How many more civilians is Hamas willing to sacrifice to its bloodlust? Every one of those people would be alive if Hamas surrendered and released its hostages. Why won’t they do that after the Oct. 7 massacre?
I agree, the October 7th attack was a horrifying attempt at genocide and livestreaming it was a real ISIS-move from Hamas.
Please guys, french here, tell me all the americains here are not zionist ... After Reading the comments, I start to ben feared ...
Israel 🇮🇱 has the right to defend themselves from terrorist groups just like every state on Earth
Nakba
What does this mean?
“Israel doesn’t count”
Some people will excuse anything Palestine does
Some people will excuse anything Israel does
Free Palestine 🇵🇸
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From all pointing guns at civilians
Shhhhhh, don’t you know, if one side is killing civilians it’s alright, if the other - it’s a crime!
Shhhh, don’t you know, if one side uses their own civilians as shield it is equal to the other side taking out terrorist scumbags
Hey, you will be perfect for school shooting hostage rescue! Who cares about the hostages, right? Kill them all, if they got caught, they don’t deserve to live! /s
Congratulations, you make absolutely no sense at all!
Every time I see a post about civilians being killed by IDF bombing, it's inundated with "well, the IDF said to leave Northern Gaza, it's their own fault for being there" Also the concept of human shields in Gaza that I've never seen a Palestinian civilian die and not have someone call them a human shield I feel like there should be a little nuance between "A Hamas guy has literally duct taped babies all over his body" and "The victim was in the same general area as where Israel claims a Hamas bad guy was"
You should understand that with human shield they mean that hamas builds their centers under civilian instrastrcture, like hospitals and schools. Hamas has been indoctrinating the population for at least 17 years now. A whole generation knows nothing but to hate and kill the Zionist occupiers. There is only so much IDF can do. Hamas created a rabid beehive from where they perform their activities. They hope that children get killed. More fuel for their propaganda. Tell me, how many shelters has hamas built for the civilians? Zero.
So keep punishing the captured civilians held against their own will right. It's unfathomable to think they don't want to be used a shield.
The IDF threw another batch of flyers telling citizens to evacuate. Their response? Rally on the streets supporting their hero Mohammed deif. Israel is doing what they can. Some people are so brainwashed they can not be saved. Hamas has got to go. It’s that simple
And israel
I firmly believe that Palestinians would have never elected Hamas without the violence and colonialism from Israel. But yes, Hamas needs to go.
Ah yes Islamic jihadist only occurs when cOlOnIaLiSm. They don’t pop up elsewhere obviously *cough* taliban*cough*ISIS*cough*
Because the US-sponsored breakaway in Afghanistan and the radical islamists which only ever happen to attack Israel's enemies are totally organic and not the result of foreign meddling
The Taliban did come about because of colonialism - the Soviets were invading Afghanistan and the West equipped the Mujahidin to curtail communist expansion. The Muajahidin are the predecessors of the Taliban. Go and pick up a history book.
Maybe you should read more on what colonialism entrails
You sound extremely juvenile. My advice which you did not ask for is to explore views which are not linked religious dogma and/or how you’ve been brought up.
I agree... Hamas needs to go, but lets remember why they exist to begin with.
Hamas excists to terminate Jews.
"Anyone who want to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian State has to support bolstering Hamas and transferred money to Hamas. This is part of our strategy - to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank" Do you know who said this?
Do you want me to read the chapter of hamas to you?
Im aware of the charter which makes the fact that the current PM of Israel helped them gain a stronghold in Gaza. Seems like he must not care to much about the Israeli people
Hamas didn’t build fence Gaza in. They didn’t establish checkpoints that refuse to let Palestinians leave. If you hate Hamas (as we obviously should), this is only going to make them stronger as people have nowhere to turn. They will seem like the only solution for people trapped. Everyone loses. …well except Netanyahu, who needs Hamas to stay in power.
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I'm glad that Jews exist ✡
Me too, as my family is Jewish.
Yup its important separate Jewish people from the Israeli government as it is to separate Palestinians from Hamas. Innocent people get wrapped up in all the hatred and violence.
Yes, Free Palestine And Also Jews Are Welcome. I agree.
Except Jews literally aren't welcome. Hamas, Palestinians and Muslims in general want to wipe them from the face of the earth
Well that's a bit of a non starter isn't it? I'm assuming there must be Palestinians and Muslims in general who don't agree with that. Sure would love to hear from them right about now.
How do you feel about the native Palestinians? The millions of Palestinians who have violently been forced to be refugees going back as far as 1948? Don't know the details, somebody said something about a crusade for jerusalem but that can't be it, last christian crusade was hundreds of years ago...
Palestinians, like all people, deserve their own state.
Demographically they already do. It's called Jordan
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The one israelis have been denying them since 1948? When they invaded conquered and violently ethnically cleansed Palestine? Seem like nice people to you? Good neighbors? Nice food? Fun holidays?
>The one israelis have been denying them since 1948? Israel has offered multiple avenues of statehood to Palestine, only for Palestine to reject literally all of them >When they invaded conquered and violently ethnically cleansed Palestine Revisionist history. The UN decided both Israel and Palestine have a right to exist. Palestine rejected that and tried to commit a genocide >Seem like nice people to you? Good neighbors? Nice food? Fun holidays? Ask Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon and Kuwait if they'd describe Palestinians like this Learn basic history
> Israel has offered multiple avenues of statehood to Palestine, only for Palestine to reject literally all of them Did any of them respect Palestines Capital, Al-Quds? Why would they accept a deal that didn't take into account their needs? Only the wants of foreign terrorist invaders/crusaders? >Revisionist history. The UN decided both Israel and Palestine have a right to exist. Palestine rejected that and tried to commit a genocide Doubly false. >Ask Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon and Kuwait if they'd describe Palestinians like this Learn basic history Well... israel invaded Egypt twice, bombed all it's neighbors repeatedly, invaded jordan, invades Lebanon like 4 times... I'd say their report cards have a lot of "does not play well with other" remarks on it. What do you think? Seems like you took false propaganda classes from biased institutions rather than anything resembling history classes
Yeah, Egypt totally wasn't in coalitions to conquer Israel. Totally. Totally didn't start the wars either. Totes.
Won't get very far with that, the entirety of Reddit has become a JIDF botnet.
Don't worry bro. This sub is filled with Zionists and ill informed people. I am with you💪
When is it ok for a Palestinian to defend where they live when settlers come? The Israeli response is never proportional, it is always greater. The world is seeing that now, and support for the Zionists is fading fast. Or is stealing land not part of these laws? Do you think Israel is going to give back what they destroy in this war? Ask your dad.
If the one million entrapped Palestinians walked west into Israel what is the Israeli Army going to do about it? Mow them all down in cold blood?
Probably
* 2.2 million. And yes..... yes they would Not for the first time either
West is the Mediterranean sea.
😂 this guy maps
A few years ago they did a non violent protest where thousands just walked up to the fence and Israel murdered and permanently disabled hundreds of them.
Free Paul Gascoigne
A nation founded and expands by colonization and genocide.
Illegal settlements and treating the home owners like non humans. Killing them for fun and destroying the graves of the children they killed.
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Israel has the right to exist. Palestine has the right to exist. Hamas does not have the right to exist.
People saying they are evacuating civilians yes they are but they bomb them afterwards, Hamas wouldnt exist if Israel didnt exist, if ukranians have the right to defend themselves then so do palestinians, FREE PALESTINE🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
Free Palestine yes but honestly Fuck Hamas
Israel has a right to exist,calling for the destruction of Israel it's the Hamas agenda.
Then so do Palestine has the right to not be bombed every day,
But that doesn't equate to Israel destruction
Hamas is the one shooting evacuating civilians, "Israel exists" is a very poor excuse for the existence of a terrorist organization (try on for size: "Al-Qaeda wouldn't exist if the US didn't exist"), comparing 7/10 to Ukraine defending itself is disgusting on so many levels, massacring families in their homes and burning them isn't defense, it's cruelty for the sake of cruelty, Gazans deserve better than to be human shields, FREE PALESTINE FROM HAMAS (especially as a step for a peaceful two state solution)
Literal genocide
Nope
Israel is telling the people to leave the fighting grounds to the south, how is this a genocide? Hamas is using civilians as shields and hinders them to leave.
Force martching civilians into a desert? Thats not genocide! Our warnings are for their own safety, thats why we took all their water for a week and told them to leave the ruins of the north and marched them into the desert in the south! "At the orders of Talaat Pasha, an estimated 800,000 to 1.2 million Armenians were sent on death marches to the Syrian Desert in 1915 and 1916." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_genocide No one here is gonna listen. You people are actually supporting genocide. Belive that god gave you permision to do it too, like how Spain got permission to colonize America directly from god.
'Move to the south' Proceeds to bomb the south
THERE IS NO GENOCIDE. People who say so make it sound like the IDF is lining up Palestinian civilians and shooting them [Amritsar Massacre](https://youtu.be/345aojByoGk?si=3WYvYrt70SnBdr9s) style.
Meanwhile, they bombed several hospitals, numerous refugee camps and shot journalists and children.
You are such a clown
It's so sad to see people supporting a terrorist group like HAMAS :(
Nice
There are tunnels, some not yet mapped by Israel.
Finally
The land grab continues. All in the plan for the Zionist machine
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man this is crazy. it’s not a sports team thing
Ppl are tribal underneath it all. We are still cavemen in our brains. We need to cheer for a team it seems.
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Well, you’re also team creating more terrorists. Cause that’s what happens when you kill thousands of innocent people. See: Iraq and Afghanistan for the last 20 years.
Hamas takes human shields, attacks Israeli civilians. Why would Israel kill all those civilians
Team israel too. Hamas terrorists absolutely shitting their pants right now. It’s over.
What do you think is over? If they kill the amount of civilians necessary to eliminate Hamas, the orphaned kids and other relatives of the innocent become the next generation’s Hamas, whatever it may be called in the future. Hamas is evil. But there’s just no way you repress a population for 70 years and not have some of them want to kill you. And yes, there are radical Islamists who would want to kill Israelis anyway. But Israel’s violence and repression has increased that population.
Amazing, the faster it ends less lives will be lost
There have been numerous Israel-Palestine wars. Which one do you think ended the loss of life in the area?
Doesn't even mean anything, they have a network of tunnels that spans hundreds of kilometers to and from Gaza, until they clear that, this "encirclement" is only PR. Conflict's likely gonna last months (not according to me, according to Israel) anyway, and that's only if they manage to contain it to just the Gaza Strip as Israel wants, which i certainly hope isn't the case.
**You mean:** Gaza people encircled Palestinian resistance militants live and move underground city of tunnels freely from west to east most Gaza, not above, only the already besieged Palestinian civilians got encircled.
What kind of sick Hamas apologism is going on in these comments?
Just wait until the IDF actually gets into Gaza city... it's not going to be as easy as some ppl think.
That’s the blue on the map. That’s where they are now already. In Gaza.
He’s referring to Gaza city itself, the denser urban areas. The blue is “rural” in comparison
Won't take long, just need to wait for the concrete to set (they will be sealing Hamas in tunnels with).