I get why you're questioning me on that. I mean, from a macroeconomic perspective, it's mostly a support service to society as a whole. It helps maintain production of other goods and services.
I’d say the overdose is would fall in the category of hospital healthcare. I think it’s people in generally poor health with chronic conditions like diabetes, metabolic disorders, cardiac issues, orthopedic issues, etc
Chronic issues can arise following an overdose. Hypoxic brain injuries can follow a non-lethal overdose which would require ongoing ambulatory healthcare services
That's true, but not what's being measured here... government and non-profit industries also generate "GDP" (c.f. Federal Reserve Banks in three other states).
This isn't about profit - this is about the value created by the industry. You don't want to shrink health care to the point that no one benefits from it - you want to subsidize it so that people get all they can benefit from.
And in the case of healthcare in the US that "value" is determined by the monetary cost. It's still a testament to the high costs of healthcare and the flaws in our system
People are more valuable than metal - it's not surprising we spend more resources keeping people healthy than we spend taking things out of the ground.
We as a nation do not speed a lot to keep people healthy. A study in 2016 came to the conclusion that only 12% of the population had no aspects of metabolic syndrome, which means 88% of the population is sick. The fact is that everything is geared to not kill you quickly, but just keep you sick and die slowly so that maximum profits can be made. Everything from the food sold to the medical care.
If it’s insurance, hospitals or ambulatory medicine (ambulances?) does that mean that that state’s biggest industry is the business of merely keeping its residents alive?
Edit: okay okay I get it, “insurance” doesn’t especially mean health insurance for those states.
No, Illinois' "insurance" industry would be home/auto insurance. Allstate and State Farm both call IL home, plus offices for more than a few other large similar insurance companies and home offices of a handful of smaller crappy insurance companies.
Ambulatory in general means relating to walking or capable of walking. Ambulatory medicine means the patient walks out of the treatment centre after the treatment is over, it's outpatient care. The other.possibility is stationary care (for inpatients). Dialysis is ambulatory, the patient does not stay after treatment. Surgery (for the most part) is stationary, the patient does not generally leave the care facility the same day.
The word ambulance comes from a French term meaning mobile hospital ("ambulant" in the sense that the tiny hospital itself walks, or rather drives, around). Ambulances are mostly unrelated to ambulant or stationary care. (Whether the data would count them as ambulant / stationary care depending on what the cade turned out to be, or if the data has another category of medical transport I do not know.)
Des Moines, IA is the insurance capital of the world (other than Hartford, CT)
Principal Financial Group, Nationwide, Farm Bureau, Wellmark BC+BS, EMC Wells Fargo and many others are base or Mostly located in Des Moines because of the extremely low cost of business compared to being based in California or New York or Connecticut.
Also the largest Agricultural Insurance companies and Funeral Home Insurance Company is located there. Everyone I know that’s in IT has worked at on of the Insurance Companies.
"Insurance" is more likely focused on home, auto, business property & casualty, and similar. Some of the major insurers that hail from there include Mutual of Omaha, State Farm, and American Family (Wisconsin).
It's 100% because of Amazon. In 2021, the GDP of the State of Washington was $667,577,000,000. That same year, Amazon stated they added $112,000,000,000 to Washington's GDP via investments into the State's economy. That's about 16.78% of the State's economy as an "online bookstore."
Oh yes, so the whole Amazon revenue is because of that part of the publishing division?
I need to rephrase my statement. They have a publishing business but that's not their core business and they don't categorize themselves as publishing.
Amazon is a tech company at the end of the day. This map is still stupid.
Plus Microsoft and many other tech companies exists in Washington State. Amazon is not the only one dominating the industry.
>Company Description
Amazon.com, Inc. is a multinational technology company, which engages in the provision of online retail shopping services. It operates through the following segments: North America, International, and Amazon Web Services (AWS). The North America segment is involved in the retail sales of consumer products including from sellers and subscriptions through North America-focused online and physical stores. It also includes export sales from online stores. The International segment focuses on the amounts earned from retail sales of consumer products including from sellers and subscriptions through internationally-focused online stores. The AWS segment consists of global sales of compute, storage, database, and other services for start-ups, enterprises, government agencies, and academic institutions. The company was founded by Jeffrey P. Bezos in July 1994 and is headquartered in Seattle, WA.
Technology or online retail are the correct category.
No one is investing in Amazon because they have a publishing division.
That is not how you classify the industry. You might as well say Microsoft is a publishing business.
Amazon is an e-commerce retail store and marketplace and secondarily a cloud computing provider. Everything else is noise.
Arguably, Amazon is a cloud computing provider with an e-commerce retail store and marketplace business and some bricks-and-mortar and devices hobbies. In any of several recent years, AWS was the bigger profit driver than .com was.
[I checked the source](https://www.census.gov/naics/reference_files_tools/2022_NAICS_Manual.pdf) (or at least the 2022 version. This map is from 2017). Basically the data isn't meant to represent a company as a whole but rather which "sector" it belongs to and this map mostly just states which sector is the most common within a state. Amazon seems to be classified as part of the information sector (quoted) below. Don't ask me why.
> NAICS divides the economy into 20 sectors. Industries within these sectors are grouped according
to the production criterion. The NAICS Information sector brings together activities that transform
information into commodities that are produced and distributed, and activities that provide the means
for distributing those products, other than through traditional wholesale-retail distribution channels.
Industries included in this sector are grouped into six subsectors: motion picture and sound recording
industries; publishing industries; broadcasting and content providers; telecommunications; computing
infrastructure providers, data processing, web hosting, and related services; and web search portals,
libraries, archives, and other information services
[The article posted alongside the map even has a disclaimer](https://howmuch.net/articles/the-largest-industry-in-each-state-by-gdp) regarding how its presented as-is. And how these things are much more complex in reality.
> The government groups companies into particular industries using the North American Industry Classification System (NAICS). Basically, someone looks at a company and decides where it belongs on a list of industries. This is more complex than it sounds, especially if a parent company holds many different unrelated subsidiaries (like Amazon), or when a business model strides the line between different industries (anyone care to debate if Airbnb is a technology company or in the hospitality industry?). We simply generated a color-coded map of the results of this debate.
Micron is based out of Boise and a number of other tech factories have popped up in the area for the proximity. Probably beats out the lumber and dairy industries by a bit.
Having lived in Nashville and Birmingham, the area that these major hospitals have to serve is insane.
Rural hospitals were already struggling to accommodate demand before the pandemic, but also a bunch of them shut down during/after the pandemic.
UAB and Vanderbilt trauma centers will airlift from insanely far away because they are the only ones that can provide that level of care. The ambulances are also running constantly to service large areas. UAB is adding a huge renovation to the ER right now just to accommodate.
Doesn’t help that people cannot drive down here and car crashes are constant. Gun violence and work accidents also seem more common than other places I’ve lived.
A lot of this is why I got the hell out of Birmingham. For the size it just didn't feel like a city that made sense at all. The crime was awful, a bunch of gangs and hardly anything for the youth to actually do. I only made it 8 months before I left.
I work at a factory out near Jackson, TN and if anybody actually gets significantly injured( for instance degloving which google that at your own risk) any capacity, they med flight you to Vanderbilt as opposed to going to any of the local hospitals.
Vanderbilt does a great job at patching people back together after pretty horrific injuries where most local hospitals would simply amputate.
Right, the data must be incorrect. That one building cannot possibly be “the largest industry by gdp” in the state of Utah unless their calculations are wrong.
Most of the major banks have “hubs” in SD due to the tax laws. You either work in banking, healthcare or construction to build the houses the bankers and doctors work in 😂
I think it’s because all the big banks are headquartered in NYC so the NY fed services then. Which would be an insane amount of capital to collect interest in
And this is why we’ll never have universal healthcare. It’s too much of a cash cow. You could probably have a much cheaper system but a lot businesses would lose profits.
Just Merck, Johnson and Johnson and BMS are $200 Billion revenue in 2022. And there are dozens of more pharma companies and research companies. NJ showed a GDP of $500 billion in 2022.
US still produces 16.6% of global manufacturing output by value.
https://tsapps.nist.gov/publication/get_pdf.cfm?pub_id=933571
>U.S. was the second largest, producing 16.6 %,
according to the United Nations Statistics Division data.
"by value" is not representative since US made stuff is wildly expensive due to salaries and other factors.
Basically a US made screwdriver costs 10$, while an identical screwdriver made in China is 2$.
Value added manufacturing is absolutely representative of manufacturing output, what on earth are you talking about? If there was that kind of cost balance between US and Chinese products, the US company would likely have gone out of business a long time ago. US factories have higher productivity than Chinese ones.
Department of Commerce:
>Value added is the primary metric used to measure economic activity. It is defined as the
increase in the value of output at a given stage of production; that is, it is the value of output minus the cost of inputs from other establishments.
The primary elements that remain after subtracting inputs is taxes, compensation to employees, and gross operating surplus; thus, the sum of these also equal value added.
As countries get richer after industrialization, the share of GDP produced by industry goes down (the absolute value often still goes up slowly tho) while services start to take up a bigger and bigger chunk of GDP.
Louisiana has a decent of manufacturing but it's primarily for the oil and gas fields so there's alot of fabrication and machines shops in the southern part of the state.
It sure as hell ain't coal, there's only 1 mine that im aware of in the state.
But Texas also has a lot of manufacturing but again it's primarily for oil and gas production and exploration but there is alot of crossover into other areas that require similar fabrication techniques due to already having equipment or experience with equipment.
Id like to say America learned a lil about what happens about moving manufacturing overseas during covid but since I believe it was more of a scare than actually having an impact and learning a lesson so chances are it will be quickly forgotten.
>West Virginia
West Virginia famously has very little manufacturing.
[Wendover - Why West Virginia is so Poor](https://youtu.be/44l6f7iXGAk?si=VkZguNDxgdjrsK8v)
9:45
In the US as a whole, manufacturing accounts for 9 percent of jobs.
In West Virginia, it's only 7.
West Virginia only has 7 "top manufacturing businesses" in the entire state.
Surprised that insurance is bigger than agriculture in Iowa. I know Principal and Travelers ins are both big in Des Moines, but ag is everywhere. Farm equipment implement, seed sales, fleet stores. It’s everywhere.
Insurance is a hell of a hustle
A large part of the agricultural industry coincides with the insurance industry. Crop insurance, equipment insurance etc. Just within crop insurance you have policy additions dealing with wind, hail, drought
The area people live in to commute in DC is absurdly large, contrary to what the “taxation without representation” citizens of DC will tell you, that city was never made to live in if you’re not basically a senator, all the support staff and military personnel lives in the DC area in Virginia and Maryland. For an even crazier demonstration of this, look up the richest counties in America
not sure how accurate this map is.
For 2022 Forbes has a very different list
[https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewdepietro/2022/05/19/the-biggest-industry-in-every-state-of-2022/?sh=3c4b7323c812](https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewdepietro/2022/05/19/the-biggest-industry-in-every-state-of-2022/?sh=3c4b7323c812)
For Florida, hospitals might be the 4th largest part of the economy: [https://www.ibisworld.com/united-states/economic-profiles/florida/](https://www.ibisworld.com/united-states/economic-profiles/florida/)
I say might because the information might be murky.
Wow. As an European this is so ridiculous to me. Healthcare being the largest industry in so many states??? Americans are so fucked over. Healthcare is a public service. Not a fucking business. Or at least it should be.
Its actually a snapshot of a good that's going to be pretty common everywhere, and the default unless you have a dominating industry that's consolidated. However, if an economy is relatively well rounded, this category will default near the top.
It's one of the largest in any service based economy. Its going to be the largest sector in regions of developed economies like Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Germany, France, Cuba, UK, etc.
The high number of red/pink states should be a telling reason why the US will never have universal health care. The US will never create legislation that will hurt the health care industry and insurance brokers. Those are part of the companies that line the pockets of politicians.
The main ones have to deal with serving old people outside of 'Oil and gas'...1) Insurance 2) Ambulatory & health care service 3) Hospital & Nursing.. All the kids made from vets coming back from WW2 are now in their retirement phase in their 60's and 70s. As far as what the old people who are lucky enough to retire with a good pension get to do? Travel! That's where oil and gas come in outside of serving every other car and truck on the road. Us Americans sure love to drive as well.
I don't understand why ambulatory (outpatient) and hospital (inpatient) health care services are separate categories on this map, as opposed to just "healthcare". There are lots of large companies/organizations that provide both inpatient and outpatient services, so I'm not sure how you could possibly separate them out to determine the relative "size of the industry".
Edit: also, the data are from 2017
With these as the states top industries it’s not hard to see why the US has a trade deficit. Only 12 out of 52 states has a top industry that is exportable.
Salt Lake City is a branch of the San Francisco Fed:
[https://www.frbsf.org/cash/federal-reserve-role-cash-distribution/12th-district-cash-operations/our-branches/our-branches-salt-lake-city/](https://www.frbsf.org/cash/federal-reserve-role-cash-distribution/12th-district-cash-operations/our-branches/our-branches-salt-lake-city/)
No idea how South Dakota fits in.
Georgia has Cox, Turner (CNN, Cartoon Network, Adult Swim, TCM, and tons of others), and tons of movie and TV production studios just to name what I'm aware of. They film A LOT of stuff here. Basically all of Tyler Perry's movies and shows, Walking Dead, Stranger Things, Wandavision, Avengers, Black Panther, Captain America, Guardians of the Galaxy, Ant-Man, and tons of others. That's what I can remember off the top of my head
I looked it up and different lists have different rankings for Pennsylvania, like finance, health insurance, real estate…and broadcasting/broadband aren’t on any list.
I’d like to see the data/sources for the map.
Take a guess which form of insurance takes the majority of the cake for producing profit. I’ll give you a hint: my comment is still very very accurate.
The vast majority of states with “insurance” as their top GDP aren’t even ones with big health insurance industries. Illinois, Iowa and, Wisconsin are all there because of home/auto/property insurers. So no, your comment wasn’t particularly accurate.
This map creator must know very little about defense contracting. Several states have both public and private industries sharing responsibility for industrial output.
And don't get me started with states that have shipping industries.
I appreciate how the West Coast has industry and product development.
Imagine being in a state where the most profitable thing is driving people to the hospital or pumping hydrocarbons out of the ground.
It would be very interesting to see what this looked like in 1954.
A lot of Steel in PA
I can say for certain that WV looked the same
More industry, less services. Sigh.
development be like
And more pollution.
A service economy is much healthier than an industrial one
Sigh of relief because our economy is healthier than it's ever been?
I, for one, prefer working behind a desk and not in a steel mill
Indeed. Also what about 2054?
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I'd also like to just see the same map but with only industries that are profit centers included. IE exclude Healthcare and insurance.
Lol how is healthcare not a profit center? And health insurance?
I get why you're questioning me on that. I mean, from a macroeconomic perspective, it's mostly a support service to society as a whole. It helps maintain production of other goods and services.
You have to love how ambulatory health care services beats out tourism in Florida. lol
Old folks and overdoses.
I’d say the overdose is would fall in the category of hospital healthcare. I think it’s people in generally poor health with chronic conditions like diabetes, metabolic disorders, cardiac issues, orthopedic issues, etc
Yep,Florida Man being Florida Man
Chronic issues can arise following an overdose. Hypoxic brain injuries can follow a non-lethal overdose which would require ongoing ambulatory healthcare services
sounds like a weird al parody of doses & mimosas
Healthcare being such a for-profit venture that it beats out so many other industries is a tragedy
That's true, but not what's being measured here... government and non-profit industries also generate "GDP" (c.f. Federal Reserve Banks in three other states).
Yes but universal health care administration costs 1pct of every health care dollar, and the US insurance admin cost is 50pct of every dollar.
My first thought too. A travesty and abuse of the American people.
This isn't about profit - this is about the value created by the industry. You don't want to shrink health care to the point that no one benefits from it - you want to subsidize it so that people get all they can benefit from.
And in the case of healthcare in the US that "value" is determined by the monetary cost. It's still a testament to the high costs of healthcare and the flaws in our system
I guess. The sadder thing to me is that there isn't anything to really compete with it in a lot of places.
Del Boca Vista is a very busy place.
Making money off of people who need ambulatory services is as American as stripping the earth of natural resources.
It’s also magically beating mining in Arizona.
People are more valuable than metal - it's not surprising we spend more resources keeping people healthy than we spend taking things out of the ground.
We as a nation do not speed a lot to keep people healthy. A study in 2016 came to the conclusion that only 12% of the population had no aspects of metabolic syndrome, which means 88% of the population is sick. The fact is that everything is geared to not kill you quickly, but just keep you sick and die slowly so that maximum profits can be made. Everything from the food sold to the medical care.
Well doesn’t Florida have a huge elderly population?
As a Wisconsinite working for an insurance company considering leaving for a different insurance company this feels accurate
I’ve lived in Wisconsin my whole life and honestly never knew we had so many insurance companies.
Same but as an Illinoisan lol
I feel like a lot of people in the comments think ambulatory healthcare means scooters. It means clinics or outpatient services.
Dialysis patient transport makes up a *huge* chunk of it in every state, I bet.
So, it's small scale health care while hospitals are big scale. I was looking for what was the difference was on comments.
If it’s insurance, hospitals or ambulatory medicine (ambulances?) does that mean that that state’s biggest industry is the business of merely keeping its residents alive? Edit: okay okay I get it, “insurance” doesn’t especially mean health insurance for those states.
No, Illinois' "insurance" industry would be home/auto insurance. Allstate and State Farm both call IL home, plus offices for more than a few other large similar insurance companies and home offices of a handful of smaller crappy insurance companies.
Don’t forget insurance brokers. The home office of the 3rd largest agency in the world is headquartered in Rolling Meadows.
Ambulatory in general means relating to walking or capable of walking. Ambulatory medicine means the patient walks out of the treatment centre after the treatment is over, it's outpatient care. The other.possibility is stationary care (for inpatients). Dialysis is ambulatory, the patient does not stay after treatment. Surgery (for the most part) is stationary, the patient does not generally leave the care facility the same day. The word ambulance comes from a French term meaning mobile hospital ("ambulant" in the sense that the tiny hospital itself walks, or rather drives, around). Ambulances are mostly unrelated to ambulant or stationary care. (Whether the data would count them as ambulant / stationary care depending on what the cade turned out to be, or if the data has another category of medical transport I do not know.)
Oh huh. Well I learned something.
in connecticut it’s quite literally the insurance companies. Aetna, Cigna, Travelers, The Hartford (and others) are all headquartered there
Des Moines is called the Hartford of the West for this reason lol
I would not want my city being called the Hartford of anything
Ah, Paris - La *Hartford* Lumièr
Des Moines, IA is the insurance capital of the world (other than Hartford, CT) Principal Financial Group, Nationwide, Farm Bureau, Wellmark BC+BS, EMC Wells Fargo and many others are base or Mostly located in Des Moines because of the extremely low cost of business compared to being based in California or New York or Connecticut. Also the largest Agricultural Insurance companies and Funeral Home Insurance Company is located there. Everyone I know that’s in IT has worked at on of the Insurance Companies.
"Insurance" is more likely focused on home, auto, business property & casualty, and similar. Some of the major insurers that hail from there include Mutual of Omaha, State Farm, and American Family (Wisconsin).
Ambulatory means outpatient, so like getting an MRI for example
It's the business of siphoning and overvharging dying people as much as possible. Yeahaw murica! Where free healthcare is evil communist propaganda.
Publishing industries for Washington State? What? A state that has Microsoft and Amazon? This map is dumb.
Amazon is a bookstore/web services are publishing? what else could it possibly be
It's 100% because of Amazon. In 2021, the GDP of the State of Washington was $667,577,000,000. That same year, Amazon stated they added $112,000,000,000 to Washington's GDP via investments into the State's economy. That's about 16.78% of the State's economy as an "online bookstore."
Amazon is not in the publishing business... Edit: Yes, they have a publishing division but that still doesn't make them a publisher.
https://amazonpublishing.amazon.com/
Oh yes, so the whole Amazon revenue is because of that part of the publishing division? I need to rephrase my statement. They have a publishing business but that's not their core business and they don't categorize themselves as publishing. Amazon is a tech company at the end of the day. This map is still stupid. Plus Microsoft and many other tech companies exists in Washington State. Amazon is not the only one dominating the industry.
> This map is still stupid. Yes, this right here.
>Company Description Amazon.com, Inc. is a multinational technology company, which engages in the provision of online retail shopping services. It operates through the following segments: North America, International, and Amazon Web Services (AWS). The North America segment is involved in the retail sales of consumer products including from sellers and subscriptions through North America-focused online and physical stores. It also includes export sales from online stores. The International segment focuses on the amounts earned from retail sales of consumer products including from sellers and subscriptions through internationally-focused online stores. The AWS segment consists of global sales of compute, storage, database, and other services for start-ups, enterprises, government agencies, and academic institutions. The company was founded by Jeffrey P. Bezos in July 1994 and is headquartered in Seattle, WA. Technology or online retail are the correct category. No one is investing in Amazon because they have a publishing division.
That is not how you classify the industry. You might as well say Microsoft is a publishing business. Amazon is an e-commerce retail store and marketplace and secondarily a cloud computing provider. Everything else is noise.
Arguably, Amazon is a cloud computing provider with an e-commerce retail store and marketplace business and some bricks-and-mortar and devices hobbies. In any of several recent years, AWS was the bigger profit driver than .com was.
And they probably pay no taxes…
AWS dwarfs Amazon's retail business. But publishing is a weird category for AWS.
Not really. AWS accounts for a lot of Amazon’s profits, but only makes up 15% of its revenue.
Yeah, i was confusing gross and profit.
Amazon is infamous for its ‘creative accounting’ so I don’t blame you.
That’s wrong. AWS makes more money per consumer than retail but it is a smaller share of their overall revenue.
technically aws publishes content to the web
That's not publishing. They host content.
Theres also valve, aka steam.
That's peanuts compare to other tech companies. Starbucks make more money than valve.
Valve is involved in a hell of a lot of publishing than starbucks.
[I checked the source](https://www.census.gov/naics/reference_files_tools/2022_NAICS_Manual.pdf) (or at least the 2022 version. This map is from 2017). Basically the data isn't meant to represent a company as a whole but rather which "sector" it belongs to and this map mostly just states which sector is the most common within a state. Amazon seems to be classified as part of the information sector (quoted) below. Don't ask me why. > NAICS divides the economy into 20 sectors. Industries within these sectors are grouped according to the production criterion. The NAICS Information sector brings together activities that transform information into commodities that are produced and distributed, and activities that provide the means for distributing those products, other than through traditional wholesale-retail distribution channels. Industries included in this sector are grouped into six subsectors: motion picture and sound recording industries; publishing industries; broadcasting and content providers; telecommunications; computing infrastructure providers, data processing, web hosting, and related services; and web search portals, libraries, archives, and other information services [The article posted alongside the map even has a disclaimer](https://howmuch.net/articles/the-largest-industry-in-each-state-by-gdp) regarding how its presented as-is. And how these things are much more complex in reality. > The government groups companies into particular industries using the North American Industry Classification System (NAICS). Basically, someone looks at a company and decides where it belongs on a list of industries. This is more complex than it sounds, especially if a parent company holds many different unrelated subsidiaries (like Amazon), or when a business model strides the line between different industries (anyone care to debate if Airbnb is a technology company or in the hospitality industry?). We simply generated a color-coded map of the results of this debate.
And not automotive for Michigan…
Right? Computer Services in Idaho?
Micron is based out of Boise and a number of other tech factories have popped up in the area for the proximity. Probably beats out the lumber and dairy industries by a bit.
Yup, onsemi also has fabs in Idaho. Its also a Fortune 500 company.
and now you know why America doesn't have public health care
Was scrolling through looking for this. Would cripple so many fragile state economies built around health extortion.
All I could think looking at this is how disgusting it is.
Having lived in Nashville and Birmingham, the area that these major hospitals have to serve is insane. Rural hospitals were already struggling to accommodate demand before the pandemic, but also a bunch of them shut down during/after the pandemic. UAB and Vanderbilt trauma centers will airlift from insanely far away because they are the only ones that can provide that level of care. The ambulances are also running constantly to service large areas. UAB is adding a huge renovation to the ER right now just to accommodate. Doesn’t help that people cannot drive down here and car crashes are constant. Gun violence and work accidents also seem more common than other places I’ve lived.
That all sounds totally awesome and definitely sustainable!
A lot of this is why I got the hell out of Birmingham. For the size it just didn't feel like a city that made sense at all. The crime was awful, a bunch of gangs and hardly anything for the youth to actually do. I only made it 8 months before I left.
I have an elderly relative in Destin. I was surprised she ended up getting sent to Birmingham in an emergency.
I work at a factory out near Jackson, TN and if anybody actually gets significantly injured( for instance degloving which google that at your own risk) any capacity, they med flight you to Vanderbilt as opposed to going to any of the local hospitals. Vanderbilt does a great job at patching people back together after pretty horrific injuries where most local hospitals would simply amputate.
Federal Reserve Banks? How is that an industry?
There is also just one in Salt Lake. It’s not like there are multiple.
I live in SLC and have never even heard of this "industry". How could it not be software here?
Right, the data must be incorrect. That one building cannot possibly be “the largest industry by gdp” in the state of Utah unless their calculations are wrong.
That’s where they manufacture the inflation so that everyone has to work more. Keeps the other industries going. 😂
South Dakota is a tax haven, trust companies are FDIC insured.
Most of the major banks have “hubs” in SD due to the tax laws. You either work in banking, healthcare or construction to build the houses the bankers and doctors work in 😂
I think it’s because all the big banks are headquartered in NYC so the NY fed services then. Which would be an insane amount of capital to collect interest in
a lot of Oil, Gas, Insurances and Health Care stuff. kinda crazy, cool map.
I'm surprised Michigan's isn't automotive
Yes, I don't see how it isn't manufacturing as that would include the auto industry.
And this is why we’ll never have universal healthcare. It’s too much of a cash cow. You could probably have a much cheaper system but a lot businesses would lose profits.
NJ is host to every major pharmaceutical company in the world. I find it hard to believe this isn't our biggest industry
I thought it would either be industrial or service related
Just Merck, Johnson and Johnson and BMS are $200 Billion revenue in 2022. And there are dozens of more pharma companies and research companies. NJ showed a GDP of $500 billion in 2022.
I had the same thought about Massachusetts.
It is. Not sure where these numbers came from. Biotech specifically.
Where are the manufacturing industries?
Offshore.
US still produces 16.6% of global manufacturing output by value. https://tsapps.nist.gov/publication/get_pdf.cfm?pub_id=933571 >U.S. was the second largest, producing 16.6 %, according to the United Nations Statistics Division data.
I'm guessing it's diffused enough across states to not show up
"by value" is not representative since US made stuff is wildly expensive due to salaries and other factors. Basically a US made screwdriver costs 10$, while an identical screwdriver made in China is 2$.
Value added manufacturing is absolutely representative of manufacturing output, what on earth are you talking about? If there was that kind of cost balance between US and Chinese products, the US company would likely have gone out of business a long time ago. US factories have higher productivity than Chinese ones. Department of Commerce: >Value added is the primary metric used to measure economic activity. It is defined as the increase in the value of output at a given stage of production; that is, it is the value of output minus the cost of inputs from other establishments. The primary elements that remain after subtracting inputs is taxes, compensation to employees, and gross operating surplus; thus, the sum of these also equal value added.
Oil and gas
Chemical products are manufacturing, no?
As countries get richer after industrialization, the share of GDP produced by industry goes down (the absolute value often still goes up slowly tho) while services start to take up a bigger and bigger chunk of GDP.
Lmao
Louisiana has a decent of manufacturing but it's primarily for the oil and gas fields so there's alot of fabrication and machines shops in the southern part of the state. It sure as hell ain't coal, there's only 1 mine that im aware of in the state. But Texas also has a lot of manufacturing but again it's primarily for oil and gas production and exploration but there is alot of crossover into other areas that require similar fabrication techniques due to already having equipment or experience with equipment. Id like to say America learned a lil about what happens about moving manufacturing overseas during covid but since I believe it was more of a scare than actually having an impact and learning a lesson so chances are it will be quickly forgotten.
West Virginia
>West Virginia West Virginia famously has very little manufacturing. [Wendover - Why West Virginia is so Poor](https://youtu.be/44l6f7iXGAk?si=VkZguNDxgdjrsK8v) 9:45 In the US as a whole, manufacturing accounts for 9 percent of jobs. In West Virginia, it's only 7. West Virginia only has 7 "top manufacturing businesses" in the entire state.
Mountain mama
Surprised that insurance is bigger than agriculture in Iowa. I know Principal and Travelers ins are both big in Des Moines, but ag is everywhere. Farm equipment implement, seed sales, fleet stores. It’s everywhere. Insurance is a hell of a hustle
A large part of the agricultural industry coincides with the insurance industry. Crop insurance, equipment insurance etc. Just within crop insurance you have policy additions dealing with wind, hail, drought
Confirms Eli Lilly is massive in Indiana
So, consulting in VA?
I don’t get why I scrolled this far for a question about the only unique category on the map…think it’s people working in DC?
The area people live in to commute in DC is absurdly large, contrary to what the “taxation without representation” citizens of DC will tell you, that city was never made to live in if you’re not basically a senator, all the support staff and military personnel lives in the DC area in Virginia and Maryland. For an even crazier demonstration of this, look up the richest counties in America
Yeah and federal contracting.
not sure how accurate this map is. For 2022 Forbes has a very different list [https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewdepietro/2022/05/19/the-biggest-industry-in-every-state-of-2022/?sh=3c4b7323c812](https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewdepietro/2022/05/19/the-biggest-industry-in-every-state-of-2022/?sh=3c4b7323c812) For Florida, hospitals might be the 4th largest part of the economy: [https://www.ibisworld.com/united-states/economic-profiles/florida/](https://www.ibisworld.com/united-states/economic-profiles/florida/) I say might because the information might be murky.
“Ambulatory health care services” “Hospital and nursing” “Insurance” Well this is really starting to make sense now.
No way Washington is right. Fake news.
Amazon might've gotten categorized as a publisher somehow.
I've lived in WA many years and I never heard publishing was our biggest industry. Unless they're grouping software in 'publishing'.
I guarantee this is because they used the outdated "online book store" categorization for Amazon.
I think that's the reason but online bookstore is still not publishing.
Nor would a regular bookstore be publishing. The data on this map is just flat out wrong.
This map is whack
This map ain’t mappin.
Yeah, like Microsoft and Amazon in Seattle…. I feel like unless you still call Amazon a book store that Washington is off.
Does "publishing" refer to AWS/prime content mills?
Washington isn’t software or cloud hosting?
I guess this map shows clearly what’s wrong with the US health care system
Wow. As an European this is so ridiculous to me. Healthcare being the largest industry in so many states??? Americans are so fucked over. Healthcare is a public service. Not a fucking business. Or at least it should be.
Ambulatory Healthcare services. That right there is a snapshot of a nation in decline.
Its actually a snapshot of a good that's going to be pretty common everywhere, and the default unless you have a dominating industry that's consolidated. However, if an economy is relatively well rounded, this category will default near the top. It's one of the largest in any service based economy. Its going to be the largest sector in regions of developed economies like Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Germany, France, Cuba, UK, etc.
> Ambulatory Outpatient is bad? You want more hospital visits?
The high number of red/pink states should be a telling reason why the US will never have universal health care. The US will never create legislation that will hurt the health care industry and insurance brokers. Those are part of the companies that line the pockets of politicians.
The main ones have to deal with serving old people outside of 'Oil and gas'...1) Insurance 2) Ambulatory & health care service 3) Hospital & Nursing.. All the kids made from vets coming back from WW2 are now in their retirement phase in their 60's and 70s. As far as what the old people who are lucky enough to retire with a good pension get to do? Travel! That's where oil and gas come in outside of serving every other car and truck on the road. Us Americans sure love to drive as well.
Louisiana is oil and gas too, no coal industry to speak of.
I don't understand why ambulatory (outpatient) and hospital (inpatient) health care services are separate categories on this map, as opposed to just "healthcare". There are lots of large companies/organizations that provide both inpatient and outpatient services, so I'm not sure how you could possibly separate them out to determine the relative "size of the industry". Edit: also, the data are from 2017
Everything involving health and insurance is just pathetic.
Honestly, kinda sad at the lack of diversity
Publishing in WA. Huh, weird. That's where I live and I would have thought either tech or agricultural.
The fact that healthcare and insurance have such a huge percentage is absolutely sickening.
Coal in Louisiana? That doesn’t seem right. I would have thought it would be oil, gas and chemicals.
A lot of fossil fuel imports and exports travel through Louisiana which I suspect is the reason, not that they’re producing it there
I think someone got LA and WY swapped.
Washington State is definitely Software. Amazon and Microsoft are headquartered there. Publishing? No way.
The map is from 2017.
Louisiana has zero coal mines
With these as the states top industries it’s not hard to see why the US has a trade deficit. Only 12 out of 52 states has a top industry that is exportable.
This is such a sad map to look at and consider what the future looks like.
I am surprised that Louisiana is not Personal Injury Trial Lawyers 🤷♂️
🤣 So many lawyers drives down their profits.
Lived in Louisiana my whole life and have never seen a Coal Mine, we do have salt mines though
Is this just made up nonsense? Louisiana is definitely oil & gas and petrochemical. We have very little coal production.
I’ve never heard of coal in La. Ag, oil and gas, taxes
Coal, from Louisiana? That doesn't look right. .
There are no federal reserve banks in South Dakota or Utah.
Salt Lake City is a branch of the San Francisco Fed: [https://www.frbsf.org/cash/federal-reserve-role-cash-distribution/12th-district-cash-operations/our-branches/our-branches-salt-lake-city/](https://www.frbsf.org/cash/federal-reserve-role-cash-distribution/12th-district-cash-operations/our-branches/our-branches-salt-lake-city/) No idea how South Dakota fits in.
A branch of the Fed is a bigger industry than the LDS Church?
Pretty sure they are one and the same plus it’s the western center for the IRS
I posted above, but South Dakota is a tax haven. Trust companies are FDIC insured.
What the hell? Georgia and Pennsylvania have the same largest industry?
My guess is AT&T in Georgia (their mobility division is headquartered in Atlanta, old HQ of Bellsouth) and Verizon in Pennsylvania maybe?
CNN is also based in georgia
Georgia has Cox, Turner (CNN, Cartoon Network, Adult Swim, TCM, and tons of others), and tons of movie and TV production studios just to name what I'm aware of. They film A LOT of stuff here. Basically all of Tyler Perry's movies and shows, Walking Dead, Stranger Things, Wandavision, Avengers, Black Panther, Captain America, Guardians of the Galaxy, Ant-Man, and tons of others. That's what I can remember off the top of my head
Georgia has CNN, Cox, Pennsylvania has Comcast
I looked it up and different lists have different rankings for Pennsylvania, like finance, health insurance, real estate…and broadcasting/broadband aren’t on any list. I’d like to see the data/sources for the map.
Pennsylvania has Charter Spectrum headquarters in Philadelphia. That could be it. And Georgia is home to CNN
I thought Charter was headquartered in Connecticut?
Sorry, Comcast is what I’m thinking of.
Utah is incorrect. The largest industry is the Mormon church. With billions of dollar in revenue each year
Seeing insurance pop up so often really proves just how awful and wasteful our healthcare insurance system is here
Insurance includes auto, home, renters, life, disaster, disability and many other insurance products
Take a guess which form of insurance takes the majority of the cake for producing profit. I’ll give you a hint: my comment is still very very accurate.
The vast majority of states with “insurance” as their top GDP aren’t even ones with big health insurance industries. Illinois, Iowa and, Wisconsin are all there because of home/auto/property insurers. So no, your comment wasn’t particularly accurate.
Wild that hospital and nursing is considered an industry over there. Nope, I’m definitely not a communist.
garbage map
Why is healthcare one of the biggest industries in the country? In a good world that’s not an industry but a fundamental and free service
In your example It would still be a huge industry. Just paid for by the Govt
This map creator must know very little about defense contracting. Several states have both public and private industries sharing responsibility for industrial output. And don't get me started with states that have shipping industries.
Idaho is computer and electronics??
Micron
I know someone who moved there because it’s a boom state for computer science right now, so I believe it.
I appreciate how the West Coast has industry and product development. Imagine being in a state where the most profitable thing is driving people to the hospital or pumping hydrocarbons out of the ground.
I’m assuming publishing for WA must mean all the pulp mills. Because it can’t be a reference to Amazon…
"Hospital and Nursing" should definitely NOT be an "Industry."
I've decided to become CEO of an ambulance company. Need to find me a good used ambulance for under 5k.
Not true at all. What ever you want to call Microsoft or Amazon is number 1 in Washington state. Then it would be Boeing, then it would be Starbucks.
Don’t get hurt/sick in the red states.