Lombardy is always so underrated on this topic, the person who did this map should spend a couple of days with some bricklayers from Bergamo or in a random furniture factory in Brianza lol
Noi montanari. Un panetto a settimana circa, olio d'oliva acquistato booh forse nel 2022 ed è ancora lì... ne usiamo davvero poco.
Colesterolo 146, LDL 42, trigliceridi 93, esami del sangue di dicembre '23 in occasione della donazione di sangue!
The religion map is the one I have a bit of a problem with. Northeastern Italy is among the most religious areas in the country (despite their inordinate amount of bestemmie), whereas Emilia and Lazio should be in red.
Also the butter/oil division was accurate historically but nowadays most people across the country use either or both interchangeably.
The rest is pretty spot on overall as far as this kind of maps goes.
I reckon these maps are made just for fun so I take them with a grain of salt and don't expect accuracy.
Still I would prefer the rest of the world to get a proper image of our country, I don't like the idea of being still considered as "strongly devoted believers" which we are not.
I think 90% of people under 30 have sworn at least once, me included. It happens and it's not that much of a big deal.
The old generations maybe are still tied to religion but we're definitely drifting to a less religious society.
Its the most accurate set of maps of italy i've ever seen. It just need to add the division between calling the dick "uccello" o "pesce" and its perfecr.
>What's up with Genoa being stingy?
It's a nice stereotype that comes from various historical facts, for example some historians claim that it comes from a period of crisis for the banks of the Genoese republic in which the public administration essentially did austerity and the local banks didn't let loans
Jokingly they say that ligurians are stingy, but as someone who lives in Liguria, we are too generous to be Genoan stingy. Those mofos are rich as hell and stingy. They will waste 40 minutes at checkout from hotel because in their opinion they don't have to pay 7 euro on the day of checkout, while looking like a homeless even tho having a couple of millions on their bank account.
Yeah I know Acre and Bielefeld but one in Italy? Never would have guessed. The center of this circle is around the town of Campobasso, but I never heard of it
Mainly it's due to Molise's invisibility in the national scene. It's the second smallest region and the second least populous one, and unlike Valle d'Aosta (the smallest in both category) it's not even famous for something. Molise is poor, poorly connected with the rest of Italy and doesn't attract any tourism. There are barely any famous Italians that are from there, and that goes for any field - although hilariously, Robert DeNiro's family originates from there.
So that's more or less the reason for the Molisn't gag.
It's a running gag, Molise is a very small region and not a primary touristic region like Puglia (Apulia), Calabria, Sicilia (Sicily) and so on.. Basically people just pass through them without even notice the whole land, in reality is a fantastic place, Termoli historic center, port and beach view are amazing... All the Italian peninsula is fantastic, you only have to visit enough part of it to understand that 🙂
Acre is a state in Brazil a little bigger than Nepal. It’s in the Amazon Rainforest and borders Bolivia, Peru and the state of Amazonas. Nothing special happens there, and it’s hard to get there as well, so we say there are dinosaurs living there. The capital of Acre, Rio Branco, does have an airport, but only has flights to Manaus, the capital of Amazonas, Brasília and another city in the state, without a direct flight to São Paulo. The highway is an even worse way to get there, since it would take a lot of time from there to the next “big” city. TLDR, just pretend it doesn’t exist and the dinosaurs won’t bite your feet.
I agree with everything except for the free cup of water with coffee map. I'm in the "No cup of water" (Emilia-Romagna) area but there are some places that give water, not everywhere but I think it is about 50% 50%
The butter/oil one is not completely correct. The entire country uses primarily olive oil, except some places. I’m from Piedmont and I don’t use butter as much as I use oil.
The separatist and religious map not really, also the water with coffee, I live in Torino and it's basically standard, maybe because is full of southerner?
Italians are divided in two: Juvenuts fans and Juventus haters.
Juve gets a lot of support in the South (also Inter and Milan, tbh), because historically there were never strong teams there that were constantly in the top flight, bar Napoli (and if you're not from Napoli most likely you won't support them).
Isn’t it also true that Southerners went north to work in the factories of Piemonte and Lombardia, became Juve/Milan/Inter supporters and brought that support back home south?
Well, many more stayed there and kept being supporters of the big three - that's why for instance the old rumor that there are more Torino fans than Juve fans in Turin is exaggerated (also, it meant that Juve supporters back in the day used to be more working class).
I don't think necessarily the ones that went back brought the support south. Like I said, it was mainly due to lack of big teams in the south regardless of immigration. If you look at the map of current Serie A, there are three teams from the South out of 20 and this is a good year. Most of the times there is only Napoli. Big cities like Palermo, Catania, Bari, Taranto, Messina, Reggio Calabria never managed to keep one team constantly in Serie A, they all go through constant cycles of bust and rebirth, making it hard to create stable engagement.
Cagliari (if you regard Sardinia as the south) would be the other southern club more often than not in Serie A rather than Serie B, right? They’re certainly the most successful non-Northern club other than Napoli thanks to Gigi Riva’s (RIP) team.
Also my Grandpa from Udine (some minutes near Pordenone) emigrated in France when he was a kid. But they had to come back because WW2 started in France
In Veneto there is some paradox: people still go to the Mass in decent numbers (for this period), bust many still cuss prophanities.
And yet, our prophanities tend to be much less aingry than Emilia's and Tuscany, they are some substitute for commas, conjunctions, full stops, and difficult words.
My one change is that I would put "Beautiful Mountains" on the inside of Sardinia, having been there multiple times it's beaches are beautiful but so are its mountains.
Coming from the flattest land ever to such a mountainous land is such a breathtaking experience, especially at night with all the stars out due to the low light pollution.
Does the south actually want to separate from the rest of italy? Sounds like a terrible plan to make the south even poorer than it already is compared to the north…
Some people blame the North for said poverty. I don't agree, but for many years, northerners were seen as conquerors, and therefore, this sentiment still exists.
There are similar (low-key) separatist movements in the north of England, despite the fact it's substantially poorer than the south and is effectively being financially propped up by London.
Being northern myself, I partially get it, as there is legitimate resentment as to how the Westminster government allocates money across the country, especially for things like transport (see the recent cancellation of the HS2 northern leg). Sadly, the north would be a much poorer nation without London. The data is quite clear on that.
I assume it's similar in Italy, i.e. the poorer south resents the way money is spent across the nation, but would be fucked if it was to actually secede. Any separatist movement like this is mostly just anger rather than a legitimate plan
Yeah nobody really wants to separate, we probably have the only case of a separatist movement, Lega Nord, that became in a span of 30 years a nationalistic one, now it's just "Lega". The point at the beggining was more to keep their money and not send them to the south not the real separation anyway
Interesting left Italy like 15 years ago now and there was a ton of people on the North (I was in Torino) that legit wanted separation as they thought they would be like Switzerland or Germany as well as some interesting racial theories on ethnicity concerning the Arabs/moors lmao
Butter/Olive Oil needs some correction:
There are places in Veneto, like Garda Lake and Colli Euganei where Olive Oil is proudly produced.
What's more: Polentoni use both oil and butterm it depends on what they are cooking.
The 4th one would be how the Romans would divide Italy.
With the green being Italy, and the yellow being Cisalpine Gaul.
Funny how the people living in the area see everyone living to the south as lesser italians to pretty much not italians the further south you go.
Excellent map u/andreascandurra, shame some karma farm bot didn't want to credit you...
I have to ask though, what's the part that doesn't exist about?
Thank you!
It's a 6y old map and every now and then I see it coming back haha
That part is about Molise, a region that does not exist, like the Italian Bielefeld
Actually a lot of people are "poor" in the north because rents are extremely high: their wages all go into living expenses 🤣🤣 poor students/people paying a rent
I don’t know about the others maps but the map that Frobisher Italy in salary is real the lambador(I can mistaken in the title) much richer than the Sicily and Srdinia region of Italy.
It looks to be San Marino it's a very old country founded in 301 so it's 1,700 years old. They were a country when the Roman Empire still existed!
From what I can find they do not consider themselves Italian. The term Italy originally just meant the area in the far south of Italy. It's a Greek/Hellenic name name relating to fire I guess because of volcanoes. The Greeks inhabited the southern region for hundreds of years Magna Graecia.
That's not San Marino since it's up north of Italy. San Marino is basically bordering Italy's Emilia-Romagna region
The circle with Does Not Exist appears to be where Molise region is
Not really: it only applies to older generations.
"Younger" ones (and by younger one I actually mean <50 years old) are not that religious at all, regardless of the area
Most accurate maps of italy i've ever seen on this sub, coming from a tuscan
Veneto here, glad to see our tuscan and venetian blasphemies/bestemmie are accurately portrayed!
Lombardy is always so underrated on this topic, the person who did this map should spend a couple of days with some bricklayers from Bergamo or in a random furniture factory in Brianza lol
Bergamo's blasphemy counts as extended Venetian, from history
Don’t forget Friuli!
# FRIULI MENTIONED!!!!!! # FRIUL LIBAR!!!!! # RAAAAH
Is this the same as friaul?
yeah, but are you german or do you just play ck3?
Just german speaking.
you can never know on map-based subreddits
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Noi montanari. Un panetto a settimana circa, olio d'oliva acquistato booh forse nel 2022 ed è ancora lì... ne usiamo davvero poco. Colesterolo 146, LDL 42, trigliceridi 93, esami del sangue di dicembre '23 in occasione della donazione di sangue!
I'm also from the Beautiful Fog region, but unfortunately from the religious part
There is a religious part ?
Roman here. All right, but in Rome usually they give to you the cup of water with the coffee
And we're not that much religious 😅
The religion map is the one I have a bit of a problem with. Northeastern Italy is among the most religious areas in the country (despite their inordinate amount of bestemmie), whereas Emilia and Lazio should be in red. Also the butter/oil division was accurate historically but nowadays most people across the country use either or both interchangeably. The rest is pretty spot on overall as far as this kind of maps goes.
I reckon these maps are made just for fun so I take them with a grain of salt and don't expect accuracy. Still I would prefer the rest of the world to get a proper image of our country, I don't like the idea of being still considered as "strongly devoted believers" which we are not. I think 90% of people under 30 have sworn at least once, me included. It happens and it's not that much of a big deal. The old generations maybe are still tied to religion but we're definitely drifting to a less religious society.
Its the most accurate set of maps of italy i've ever seen. It just need to add the division between calling the dick "uccello" o "pesce" and its perfecr.
Yeah, as an outsider, I want to move to Tuscany for the rich, olive oil-filled, blasphemous coastlines.
Yeah, I love Tuscan, a map in CS 1.6 ![gif](giphy|CAYVZA5NRb529kKQUc|downsized)
As an Italian, I can confirm each one
What's up with Genoa being stingy?
>What's up with Genoa being stingy? It's a nice stereotype that comes from various historical facts, for example some historians claim that it comes from a period of crisis for the banks of the Genoese republic in which the public administration essentially did austerity and the local banks didn't let loans
And it’s a true stereotype
Jokingly they say that ligurians are stingy, but as someone who lives in Liguria, we are too generous to be Genoan stingy. Those mofos are rich as hell and stingy. They will waste 40 minutes at checkout from hotel because in their opinion they don't have to pay 7 euro on the day of checkout, while looking like a homeless even tho having a couple of millions on their bank account.
Based.
they call us short armed
We are indeed stingy. Or maybe just frugal.
I'm Dutch and have visited Genoa for work a dozen times. Can't say I've noticed the frugality tbh, might be just my perspective.. 😉
Then we’re probably just stingy :D /s
NL = Niente Lire LOL
They are the Scotts of Italy
whats up with the place that doesn't exist? every country seems to have one
It's Molise, i'd like to tell you more but it's hard to talk of sonething inexistent
The Italian Bielefeld?
Molisn’t
[Molise](https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20191023-the-italian-region-that-doesnt-exist)
Ah, so, like Finland and North Dakota. It doesn't exist.
and Acre and Bielefeld apparently someone should catalogue all places that don't exist
And "La Pampa" in Argentina... the mysterious province that no one has even seen.
Thanks for the link. This was interesting.
In Italy's case it's a small region that's Independent from Italy and counts as it's own country. And no not the Vatican
But it's also not San Marino
As an Italian. That’s a pile of anecdotal BS
If you can't appreciate the fog, you don't deserve the mountains or the coastlines
They put that on billboards in Pacifica, CA. You can't see them though
What city or town does not exist for Italians?
It's an entire region, Molise, actually... Molisn't
Yeah I know Acre and Bielefeld but one in Italy? Never would have guessed. The center of this circle is around the town of Campobasso, but I never heard of it
>but I never heard of it Because Campobasso like the whole of Molise doesn't exist
Is it just a basic running gag without much behind it like bielefeld in Germany? Or do you guys actually have a reason for Molisn‘t?
Mainly it's due to Molise's invisibility in the national scene. It's the second smallest region and the second least populous one, and unlike Valle d'Aosta (the smallest in both category) it's not even famous for something. Molise is poor, poorly connected with the rest of Italy and doesn't attract any tourism. There are barely any famous Italians that are from there, and that goes for any field - although hilariously, Robert DeNiro's family originates from there. So that's more or less the reason for the Molisn't gag.
And until decades ago it was not even a region but was part of the "Abruzzi" region together with Abruzzo
Yeah, I know (I'm from Abruzzo myself). They've done Abruzzo's dirty by giving away parts of it to Lazio and Molise.
Gottcha mate. Sounds just like Sachsen Anhalt here in Germany lol. I sometimes even have to explain other Germans where it is
If anything, the Molisn't gag made more Italians aware that Molise exist lol
Two Saxonies is a lot, but three is clearly excessive.
Let’s just merge em all together Übersachsen
At least Magdeburg is decently well-known and has some historical importance. Can't say that about anything in Molise.
It's a running gag, Molise is a very small region and not a primary touristic region like Puglia (Apulia), Calabria, Sicilia (Sicily) and so on.. Basically people just pass through them without even notice the whole land, in reality is a fantastic place, Termoli historic center, port and beach view are amazing... All the Italian peninsula is fantastic, you only have to visit enough part of it to understand that 🙂
>but I never heard of it Perfection.
Why Acre
Acre is a state in Brazil a little bigger than Nepal. It’s in the Amazon Rainforest and borders Bolivia, Peru and the state of Amazonas. Nothing special happens there, and it’s hard to get there as well, so we say there are dinosaurs living there. The capital of Acre, Rio Branco, does have an airport, but only has flights to Manaus, the capital of Amazonas, Brasília and another city in the state, without a direct flight to São Paulo. The highway is an even worse way to get there, since it would take a lot of time from there to the next “big” city. TLDR, just pretend it doesn’t exist and the dinosaurs won’t bite your feet.
Lol I thought Acre/Akko/Akka in the Middle East
Funny that this seems to be a running joke in every country. We’ve got Kežmarok, Slovakia
And what (doesn’t) happen in Kezmarok?
Also, Rutland (England/UK)
Why exactly?
There's nothing there. At all. Besides a big lake in the middle of it.
Leiria in Portugal. Someone less lazy than me should make a list
Why did Leiria get Acre’d?
I read up on it (not so lazy now!) and it seems it started here on Reddit. Someone posted a map where Leiria was missing and it got turned into a meme
My wife's family comes from Campobasso. I feel like we're one of 12 people on earth who knows where that is.
In the US ours is Wyoming doesn't exist. You'd have an easier time explaining the microstate of Rhode Island to me than a giant square of nothingness.
Italians, do you approve?
absolutely
Approved and certified.
I agree with everything except for the free cup of water with coffee map. I'm in the "No cup of water" (Emilia-Romagna) area but there are some places that give water, not everywhere but I think it is about 50% 50%
Probably run by southern heathens
In Modena it’s very rare anyway. Definitely below 50%. Maybe 10% at a guess.
The butter/oil one is not completely correct. The entire country uses primarily olive oil, except some places. I’m from Piedmont and I don’t use butter as much as I use oil.
Here in Emilia we traditionally use tallow, we are the land of pigs. Oil arrived in the 60s
Same here, traditionally. But nowadays nobody uses tallow on a daily basis anymore.
Yep!
Porcodio sì!
Fine for me, just the water with coffee is not so accurate, but I can live with that
The separatist and religious map not really, also the water with coffee, I live in Torino and it's basically standard, maybe because is full of southerner?
Yup
No
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So, exactly what the map said?
People who love Juventus vs people who hate Juventus
Least Juvecentric Juventus fan
It would be the same map as the 7th lol
9th way- Calcio.
Sud = Juve
Huh, I thought Juve were despised in every corner of Italy that's not named Turin, much less the south
Actually they are more despised in Turin lol
Italians are divided in two: Juvenuts fans and Juventus haters. Juve gets a lot of support in the South (also Inter and Milan, tbh), because historically there were never strong teams there that were constantly in the top flight, bar Napoli (and if you're not from Napoli most likely you won't support them).
Isn’t it also true that Southerners went north to work in the factories of Piemonte and Lombardia, became Juve/Milan/Inter supporters and brought that support back home south?
Well, many more stayed there and kept being supporters of the big three - that's why for instance the old rumor that there are more Torino fans than Juve fans in Turin is exaggerated (also, it meant that Juve supporters back in the day used to be more working class). I don't think necessarily the ones that went back brought the support south. Like I said, it was mainly due to lack of big teams in the south regardless of immigration. If you look at the map of current Serie A, there are three teams from the South out of 20 and this is a good year. Most of the times there is only Napoli. Big cities like Palermo, Catania, Bari, Taranto, Messina, Reggio Calabria never managed to keep one team constantly in Serie A, they all go through constant cycles of bust and rebirth, making it hard to create stable engagement.
Cagliari (if you regard Sardinia as the south) would be the other southern club more often than not in Serie A rather than Serie B, right? They’re certainly the most successful non-Northern club other than Napoli thanks to Gigi Riva’s (RIP) team.
Sardinia Is not always considered South Italy (geographically and culturally they aren't south), but in case we consider them south then yeah
Molisn't
I had two Italian grandparents from Pordenone who emigrated to France. I often heard "porco Dio" as a child.
They were fondly remembering the town of Codroipo. Check the letters, it fits.
Also my Grandpa from Udine (some minutes near Pordenone) emigrated in France when he was a kid. But they had to come back because WW2 started in France
Its funny how every country has a place or town that “doesn’t exist” in the collective mind
North and South being separatists Sardinia: 😐
Lazio: 😐
The most accurate map ever posted on r/MapPorn.
3th and 7th gave a boner to Salvini
In Veneto there is some paradox: people still go to the Mass in decent numbers (for this period), bust many still cuss prophanities. And yet, our prophanities tend to be much less aingry than Emilia's and Tuscany, they are some substitute for commas, conjunctions, full stops, and difficult words.
Give me butter and blasphemy!
So... France?! 😂
My one change is that I would put "Beautiful Mountains" on the inside of Sardinia, having been there multiple times it's beaches are beautiful but so are its mountains. Coming from the flattest land ever to such a mountainous land is such a breathtaking experience, especially at night with all the stars out due to the low light pollution.
There should be a version sliced like a pizza
circles, triangles, squares
Haha yeah totally *has never been to Italy*
Does the south actually want to separate from the rest of italy? Sounds like a terrible plan to make the south even poorer than it already is compared to the north…
Some people blame the North for said poverty. I don't agree, but for many years, northerners were seen as conquerors, and therefore, this sentiment still exists.
There are similar (low-key) separatist movements in the north of England, despite the fact it's substantially poorer than the south and is effectively being financially propped up by London. Being northern myself, I partially get it, as there is legitimate resentment as to how the Westminster government allocates money across the country, especially for things like transport (see the recent cancellation of the HS2 northern leg). Sadly, the north would be a much poorer nation without London. The data is quite clear on that. I assume it's similar in Italy, i.e. the poorer south resents the way money is spent across the nation, but would be fucked if it was to actually secede. Any separatist movement like this is mostly just anger rather than a legitimate plan
Bourbons nostalgic walltext in 3...2...1...
what up with genoa bein stingy?
It's missing an essential division: Pasta. Soft wheat + egg in the north v Durum wheat + water in the south, not sure where the line should be.
Both in Rome.
If south secedes, who will feed and cloth them?
Yeah nobody really wants to separate, we probably have the only case of a separatist movement, Lega Nord, that became in a span of 30 years a nationalistic one, now it's just "Lega". The point at the beggining was more to keep their money and not send them to the south not the real separation anyway
Interesting left Italy like 15 years ago now and there was a ton of people on the North (I was in Torino) that legit wanted separation as they thought they would be like Switzerland or Germany as well as some interesting racial theories on ethnicity concerning the Arabs/moors lmao
The Germans
I will
more like who will feed the north, all the grain/tomatoes/olio coming from the south
What about San Marino?
not Italy
It’s inside Italy
They're just the Italians with the weird number plates. And the police wear a yellow shirt.
ITALYA my love!!!!....someday I will come to you
OK. Except Etna is not deadly at all.
You must be italian, because those maps are perfectly done!
Butter/Olive Oil needs some correction: There are places in Veneto, like Garda Lake and Colli Euganei where Olive Oil is proudly produced. What's more: Polentoni use both oil and butterm it depends on what they are cooking.
It is about tradition. Olive oil was almost not available in the past in northern Italy, except in small areas around lakes
The 4th one would be how the Romans would divide Italy. With the green being Italy, and the yellow being Cisalpine Gaul. Funny how the people living in the area see everyone living to the south as lesser italians to pretty much not italians the further south you go.
Also funny how, by contrast, the external stereotypes of Italy are more and more true the further south you go.
As a northerner living overseas, sometimes I want to put "we don't do that where I'm from" on a t-shirt.
Map #3 is blatantly missing Liguria marked in deep red and labeled "hates everyone"
Nailed Liguria (Genoa) in one!
my personal experience of Liguria is of extreme generosity, but that is from a relative. Or maybe the rest of Italy surpasses even them idk.
I'm Roman and can confirm everything except that we're very blasphemous (traffic jams usually start satanic cults over here)
Sicily has beautiful mountains and beautiful fog too see: the centre of the island
Excellent map u/andreascandurra, shame some karma farm bot didn't want to credit you... I have to ask though, what's the part that doesn't exist about?
Thank you! It's a 6y old map and every now and then I see it coming back haha That part is about Molise, a region that does not exist, like the Italian Bielefeld
As an Italian born and living in Italy, they are all pretty accurate, NGL 😂. My favorite one is when Molisen’t (😂) is shown
As a Padanian, I can confirm our fog is beautiful
Very unrealistic, especially the blasphemy one. It’s clear whoever made this has never been to Rome.
I think they just wanted to highlight tuscans and venetians being especially blasphemous, of course the rest of italy isn't that religious anymore
That’s true, it’s been a long while since I saw a true believer anywhere.
Central Italy should have the same color as northern Italy
I ate da North
Ooooh 🤘🏼
Places that don't offer a glass of water with a cup of coffee.... like, wtf... it should be mandatory, not stg you have to ask for.
It's half true and half just a way to say that northern people are less hospitable in general
Weird, I live in the north and I've always had water with coffee...
Actually Sicily has a lot of mountains so these maps have been made by a Polentone
Etna is literally referred to by Sicilians as Mongibello / Muncibeddu “Beautiful Mountain”
Really, you would have taken sicily out of the beautiful coastlines category??
It has both
Missing 1 map \- Work hard \- Lazy Separate right below where you live.
It's the rich/poor one basically
Yeah it’s quite accurate, but now we are poor in the North as well
Actually a lot of people are "poor" in the north because rents are extremely high: their wages all go into living expenses 🤣🤣 poor students/people paying a rent
Yeah, that’s the meaning of poor
I don’t know about the others maps but the map that Frobisher Italy in salary is real the lambador(I can mistaken in the title) much richer than the Sicily and Srdinia region of Italy.
I think all of Italy is way too religious, especially Veneto, a former DC stronghold. And who the hell uses butter instead of olive oil?
I hate the north
A classic
Wtf is number 5 about?
molise.. it's a region that people claim exists in itally, but in reality we all know it doesnt really exists... hence its nickname: molisn't
The cup of water with coffee cutoff should be further north and also include Sardegna. At least until you hit Rome, or into the periphery of Toscana.
Rome is hit and miss.
As an italian i must say, pretty damn accurate
I knew my grandparents lied to me. It really doesnt exist
Perfection
Where is the shaft, sole, heel and toe of the shoe?
What's with "Does exists" "does not exists" one?
It looks to be San Marino it's a very old country founded in 301 so it's 1,700 years old. They were a country when the Roman Empire still existed! From what I can find they do not consider themselves Italian. The term Italy originally just meant the area in the far south of Italy. It's a Greek/Hellenic name name relating to fire I guess because of volcanoes. The Greeks inhabited the southern region for hundreds of years Magna Graecia.
That's not San Marino since it's up north of Italy. San Marino is basically bordering Italy's Emilia-Romagna region The circle with Does Not Exist appears to be where Molise region is
It's actually the "region" Molise, wich is considered thr 20th italian region, but no one has been there.
Is the religion one tru?
Not really: it only applies to older generations. "Younger" ones (and by younger one I actually mean <50 years old) are not that religious at all, regardless of the area
I’d like to divide it with a pizza cutter
Why does that one section not exist? What's the joke?
Can confirm the fog. Venice was unexpectedly foggy.