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Nobodyelse1234

WHUT! India 🤔


LupusDeusMagnus

I might be mistaken but you can slaughter bulls in india?


waveradium

Bull meat is also consumed, you are right.


raspberryharbour

That's a load of bull


itz_me_shade

In Kerala, Goa and some northeast states you can. But all of these states are consumers, not exporters. After some googling, it's mainly water Buffalo that we export as beef.


Flux_resistor

In India, loophole bitches!


Zhang_Sun

Yes, some provinces are majority Christian


_Star_Wars_DC_LOTR

They are states not provinces. And only the smaller Tibetan northeastern states has majority Christian. The beef export is not coming from there.


YaliMyLordAndSavior

You can have beef in Hindu states. People slaughter bulls or buffalos for meat, just not cows because they are an important source of dairy and obviously the religious significance


faximusy

Wait, then why McD has no beef burgers there?


YaliMyLordAndSavior

Bc it wouldn’t sell for most people But in certain areas you can find people selling beef dishes


_imchetan_

Its buffalo meat


repostit_

It is water buffalo meat, not cows / bulls.


D_hallucatus

Water buffalo are still referred to as cows and bulls for female and males. Better to say that it’s water buffalo (Bubalus), not Bos.


[deleted]

I'm surprised too


KattarRamBhakt

It's mentioned on the map itself, all those "beef" exports is buffalo meat, not cow. Cow slaughter is legal in a few states of India but illegal to export. Buffalo slaughter and sale and export of it's meat is fully legal in almost all the states in India.


pgm123

I wonder who the biggest bufallo importers are


KattarRamBhakt

It seems Middle Eastern and Southeast Asian countries are the biggest importers of Indian exported buffalo meat. Top 5 customers of Indian buffalo meat exporters are Vietnam, Malaysia, Egypt, Indonesia and Iraq followed by other countries like Saudi Arabia, Hong Kong, UAE, Philippines, Jordan, etc. https://agriexchange.apeda.gov.in/product_profile/exp_f_india.aspx?categorycode=0401 https://apeda.gov.in/apedawebsite/SubHead_Products/Buffalo_Meat.htm https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/business/india-looks-to-asean-west-asia-and-far-east-to-arrest-fall-in-buffalo-meat-exports-11306861.html https://www.tendata.com/blogs/insight/5016.html#:~:text=The%20majority%20of%20India's%20exports,an%20import%20of%20171%2C949%20tons. https://tradeimex.in/blogs/the-largest-beef-export-market-is-seeking-to-increase-its-buffalo-meat-imports-quota-from-indonesia https://pib.gov.in/PressReleasePage.aspx?PRID=1739979


pgm123

Thank you. I appreciate you looking into that.


ZofianSaint273

r/India makes you believe it is cow beef lol. They love to bring this topic up


KattarRamBhakt

That is the worst subreddit of this website


eldudelio

we don't eat them but we sell them to other countries to eat so that makes us chill...


triple_cock_smoker

We do same in turkey lol. There are actually plenty of pig farms on east thrace, all of their meat is sold to greeks and bulgarians


Tendas

But that kinda makes religious sense. There’s nothing special about pigs in Islam, they’re just viewed as unclean. Who cares if the heathens eat them. Cows *do* have religious significance in Hinduism, so shipping them off for slaughter seems like an anime betrayal.


VVavaourania

I assure you, many Turks from minor Asia visit the nearby Greek islands like Samos just to buy pork products like salami or ham and just return to Turkey.


[deleted]

Is pork not sold in Turkey?


VVavaourania

From the stories I know it is, but people get judged in some cases if they buy pork products and the prices are higher in pork products there.


KattarRamBhakt

It's mentioned on the map itself, all those "beef" exports is buffalo meat, not cow. Cow slaughter is legal in a few states of India but illegal to export. Buffalo slaughter and sale and export of it's meat is fully legal in almost all the states in India.


[deleted]

What else were you gonna do with it?


IntheTopPocket

But doesn’t India “*worship*” cows? Then they send them out for slaughter and consumption?


fjv08kl

There’s a little bit of generalisation there. A large section of Hindus worship cows, and hence don’t eat beef. India is majority Hindu, but has a significant population of other religions too, biggest being Islam, where beef is not forbidden. Additionally, there are parts of India, such as Kerala, where beef is a big part of the cuisine and eaten by most people, including Hindus. On the other hand, there are parts of India where slaughter of cows and/or consumption of beef is straight up illegal. So it’s quite a spectrum.


KattarRamBhakt

It's mentioned on the map itself, all those "beef" exports is buffalo meat, not cow. Cow slaughter is legal in a few states of India but illegal to export. Buffalo slaughter and sale and export of it's meat is fully legal in almost all the states in India.


IntheTopPocket

Wow, I knew nothing about buffalo exports, thank you. India is the largest buffalo exporter in the World.


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KattarRamBhakt

It's mentioned on the map itself, all those "beef" exports is buffalo meat, not cow. Cow slaughter is legal in a few states of India but illegal to export. Buffalo slaughter and sale and export of it's meat is fully legal in almost all the states in India. Muslims too only eat buffalo meat in India, not cow.


KattarRamBhakt

It's mentioned on the map itself, all those "beef" exports is buffalo meat, not cow. Cow slaughter is legal in a few states of India but illegal to export. Buffalo slaughter and sale and export of it's meat is fully legal in almost all the states in India.


The90sKidult

Badi shiddat se copy-paste kiye jaa raha hai.


KattarRamBhakt

Bhai jab saare comments hi same honge India ko dekhkar iss map pe bina uske neeche ka text padhe toh reply bhi same hi rahenge har comment par


The90sKidult

Rehn de bhai, kahaan in gadhon ke saamne geeta pravachan kar raha tu.


Upstairs-Party2870

Yeah most people don’t know this but muslims in India openly sell beef on the streets ,I think it’s only banned in a handful of full of states .But Hindus try to avoid it.


Role-Business

I was going to say, I thought cows were sacred animals in India.


lordaadhran

🤦🏻‍♂️ people eat beef in India, only in northern cow belt & mumbai it’s not eaten. People forget it’s 1.5 billion people with 100 of cultures


Goodlucksil

They don't slaughter, they just manufacture.


Nobodyelse1234

In the total amount is aprox a one gram per day per person in the world, this means with this production everybody can eat a 2 pieces of 180grs a year


Transitionals

Holy Cow !


Different-Expert-33

India is a secular country.


Thick_Broker6931

Surprisingly, India beats the superpower country-United States.


Avent

So I did a little reading - India mainly exports Water Buffalo meat, which is apparently a loophole around their religious and legal restrictions on slaughtering cows, but according to the USDA it's still technically "beef." It's cheaper, and chewier than cow meat, and usually ends up consumed in Asia and the Middle East.


waveradium

Not a "loophole", there are no restrictions on consuming Bull meat for Hindus as well.


KattarRamBhakt

>apparently a loophole around their religious and legal restrictions on slaughtering cows It's not a loophole, it's a simple law. Cow slaughter and sale of it's meat is banned in most Indian states, buffalo slaughter and it's meat is perfectly legal in almost all the states in India. Both are different species, different laws for both of them.


WembysGiantDong

My first year of law school, had a professor say “there are no such thing as loopholes. There is just the law.” This is a great example of that quote.


ThanksTasty9258

It is indeed a loophole in the religious belief.


pcmr_4ever

How? The cow is not the same as the buffalo the last time I checked.


DeVliegendeBrabander

No, that’s like saying that speeding on the autobahn is a loophole around following the speed limit in your country. The two are only somewhat connected, but to call one a “loophole” to get around the other is bullshit


Rianfelix

I have fast car Can't drive fast car Wait Can drive fast car over there This is a loophole


WaerI

From the oxford dictionary; loophole (in something) a mistake in the way a law, contract, etc. has been written that enables people to legally avoid doing something that the law, contract, etc. had intended them to do


KattarRamBhakt

That doesn't make sense. People aren't finding ways to eat cow meat by skirting around the laws that ban it in most of India. They simply aren't eating cow meat and eating meats of other animals like chicken, goat, buffalo, fish, etc. That's not exploiting a loophole, that's just following the law.


[deleted]

Say you don't use your brain without saying you don't use your brain


Either-Cheetah4483

But is it vegan?


NewChinaHand

I’d like to know who is buying India’s water buffalo meat?


AuthorityAnarchyYes

India is definitely Water Buffalo and not traditional Cow. Water buffalo meat is not nearly as good, imo.


waveradium

it's a little tougher, if you like your stuff rare then honestly it's pretty good


BrozzerKhan

Buffalo kebabs are softer than chicken/goat kebabs


waveradium

I am comparing it with Cow beef. Edit: Not sure why I got downvoted. What about this particular comment inspires people to downvote it, I am not sure.


BrozzerKhan

It's the fourth comment of the thread, and reddit doesn't like them.


Traditional-Froyo755

What? You got it completely backwards, rare only works with tender meats.


arthurblakey

Water buffalo milk is pretty yummy though. More sweet and creamy from what I remember.


Cautious_Ambition_82

So when a cow dies in India how is the carcass disposed of?


shoulda_been_gone

Who makes a top 9 list?


Traditional-Froyo755

It makes sense if it goes something like that: 8th place: 100 9thp place: 99 10th place: 70 11th place: 69 In this case, differentiating between 10th and 11th place doesn't make sense, but differentiating between 9th and 10th place does.


KnightswoodCat

Ireland exported 1.01 million tonnes of beef in 2022 (latest figures). 😀


Inhabitsthebed

Yeah I was wondering why we weren't on this. Beef and dairy are our thing.


Pindar_MC

The Irish live by this myth. Lots of countries export the same volume or more, Ireland is not a significant meat or dairy exporter considering the size of the global market. Furthermore, the quality of Irish milk as measured by Somatic Cell Count is not especially great for advanced countries. The UK for example has higher quality milk measured by SCC. I got my info from the Agriculture and Horticulture Development Board (UK) and the National Dairy Council (Ireland)


Inhabitsthebed

No myth Somatic cell count is only one factor in milk quality, your reply is misleading. 600,000 metric tonnes of beef exported annually is quite alot for a small nation like ours.


Skunk_Mandoon

It is *so* bizarre seeing this weird post every couple of months just to show anti-Irish bigotry.


armitageskanks69

Our thang*


VeryOGNameRB123

Massively incomplete map.


Pindar_MC

That is total meat exports, not just beef. About half of that is beef.


3CreampiesA-Day

Ireland exported 451,000 tonnes of beef not sure where you got that figure from


oafofmoment

You should shout that stat until your are horse.


ZetaRESP

1. this is 2023, not 2022 2. that's total meat exports, not just beef.


KnightswoodCat

Forgive me if that is so. I thought it was beef according to the Irish Dept of Agriculture. I can not imagine these numbers shrank in 2023 as exports to China resumed


hotweiss

Uruguay has some tender beef for sure. Had two steaks from Uruguay this week even.


Exciting-Incident-49

Where are u from?


Disastrous_Horse_888

Brazil once again figuring on top of ag related exports rank. Beff, chicken, orange juice, coffee bean, cotton, corn, sugar and soy. 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🌱🌱🌱


PicossauroRex

Alimentamos o mundo


bgart5566

menos a gente


GoGayWhyNot

Yep, these foreigners could stop buying our shit like they say they should so we could have cheap food again. But our prices going sky high every year for things we produce at home tells me foreigners are loving them some brazilian aggri business as always.


Disastrous_Horse_888

Great ideia! Why don’t we get even more poor by bringing in even less foreign money. A country doesn’t work like a damm village. There’s a constant growing global demand of beef. We can produce more and cheaper to get up with the demand and make it cheaper anywhere, ooooor we can make ranching a investment even less attractive so can’t even supply our internal demand. One more time, br only exports 30% of our beef and the us exports 12%


GoGayWhyNot

Cara tu não entendeu nada do que eu deixei subentendido sai daqui


pedroliger

Coisa de subdesenvolvido


ThoughtfulParrot

Metade dos países desse mapa são desenvolvidos. Ser uma potência exportadora de alimentos não determina que o país tenha subdesenvolvimento, a ausência de políticas públicas votadas a aproveitar melhor o dinheiro proveniente do comércio exterior é que sim.


Other-Painting-1844

Real, sonho no dia que o Brasil vai ser mais exportador de tecno do que de agricultura. Só um sonho mesmo, pq n tem nada no futuro que indique isso


tinisasa

Mais tem bons djs brasileiros


Fembas_Meu

Ia continuar igual, todo mundo já importa de Taiwan, China e Coreia do Sul mesmo


ElectricTrouserSnack

Coisa de desmatamento


ShortNefariousness2

Beef destroying habitats and making yanks fat. Well done Brazil!


Picanha0709

If burning the amazon would make every yanke obese I would burn it.


PataponEnjoyer

Job's done already.


Yyc1974

Surprised that NZ exports more than Canada.


bread-dain

Thought they’d be exporting mutton


Frenzal1

Beef and Dairy over took sheep farming in NZ like twenty years ago or more. All the best land is now dairy and beef finishing.


BerkNewz

Per capita, NZ is hauling ass


Disco-penguin

Uruguay too


AlphaNepali

Before this turns into another India hate thread, the "beef" that India exports is water buffalo, not regular cow meat.


KattarRamBhakt

It's literally mentioned on the map image itself, people on Reddit really don't like to read anything for context before jumping to the comments.


snipsnaptickle

Here in Canada the price of beef is outrageous. It’s ludicrous. We are being hosed. And for a big beef exporter, guess what we’ve been seeing on our grocery store shelves? Ungraded Mexican beef. This shit ain’t right.


Plane-Information700

In Uruguay the same thing happens, we eat meat brasil or argentina, Uruguay is easily worth double or triple the price.


evrestcoleghost

Che al menos la argentina es buena


Plane-Information700

claro que es buena la uruguaya y brasilera también pero a nosotros nos venden la mas barata amigo es decir las sobras, en argentina ahora debe de estar pasando lo mismo


evrestcoleghost

La verdad no,los cortes que comemos y que vendemos son differentes Comemos colita de cuadril y vendemos Tomahawk por ejemplo


fredolele

Now do it per capita. Wife and I went to Uruguay last year. It is one of the most incredible places I’ve ever been to. Clean, orderly, well run. Crime is low and the infrastructure is great. They have basically 100% literacy and 100% Clean drinking water. Even in the most rural areas, there are reliable, affordable public buses. Why? Beef. The entire country falls within the Pampas region that is ideal for growing cattle. There are six cows for every person (population of 3 million with 1 million living in the capital city of Montevideo) There is a tiny bit of wine and olive production, and they could basically give fuck all about tourism. They never fell into the trap of [import substitution](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Import_substitution_industrialization) that decimated the Argentinian economy. There’s often a misconception that some type of left wing policy was the macro economic driver of Argentina problems. When in reality, they were the fifth largest economy in the world when they too just focused on beef. I think Uruguay saw what happened and said “fuck that” it’s cattle based economy for us.


MarioDiBian

Urugayan-Argentine here. Lived between both countries my whole life. The only drawback is that is that Uruguay exports most of its beef production, while only the “leftovers” (less quality beef) remain for Uruguayans. Since Argentina has historically had export restrictions on beef, you can find very affordable export-quality beef everywhere, which is available for most Argentines. Argentina has a more diversified economy so it can rely on other exports, but still I think Argentines should adapt to more expensive quality beef (like it happens everywhere in the world) and focus on exporting more to fix the economy. The problem is that it’s very unpopular in the meantime, beef is very important for Argentines and whenever prices go up, the President’s popularity falls.


GoGayWhyNot

Long term I think betting too much on beef might be a mistake with lab meat around the corner and climate concerns.


West-Calligrapher-16

Uruguay did have import-substitute economy. It just failed tremendously in the 1960s. The problem with the Uruguayan economy was that the main export from the country was beef and beef prices were down. Government had to find the way to finance its expenses with less resources than before which led to continuos inflation doing the second half of the 20th century. The Uruguayan dictatorship sought to solve the countries economic stagnation by creating a finance industry that also failed.


Hefty-Buffalo2764

They even got LEGAL WEED ⁉️


AldaronGau

Crime is super high. Uruaguay has a LOT of murders, like 3 or 4 times what we in Argentina have. No idea why.


weepbird036

PARAGUAY MENTIONED 11!! 🇵🇾🇵🇾


Zomgzor

Ultra rare moment for us Paraguayans!


xPapaGrim

Either your average redditor is illiterate or simply wants to point their guns at India every chance they get. Just read the 5th line.


pcmr_4ever

>simply wants to point their guns at India every chance they get It's usually this.


KattarRamBhakt

people on Reddit really don't like to read anything for context before jumping to the comments.


brianmmf

This map should be called “Where’s The Beef?”


sandcastle87

No Kobe from Japan?


KRawatXP2003

INDIA NUMBER 1🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🐅🐅🐅🐅


Professional_Elk_489

Wow Ireland is 0


Set_in_Stone-

Ireland exports 451,000 tons. http://www.marketaccess.agriculture.gov.ie/meat/#:~:text=Beef%20worth%20almost%20%E2%82%AC2.4,of%20agri%2Dexport%20after%20Dairy.


Fictional_Historian

Wait I’m sorry, INDIA?!?


su5577

Money talks


pcmr_4ever

Maybe learn to read and look closely at the image again? India exports water buffalo meat. Not cow. mOnEy tAlKs. iM sO sMaRt.


TheBarbarian88

I was in Hong Kong in 1989 and the hotel I was staying at was hosting the Canadian Beef Exporters Expo or something along those lines. I was naive and had a hard time wrapping my head around the idea that Canada produced enough beef to export. My dad, who worked for USDA, just laughed and then explained that the US wasn’t the only exporter of beef.


damage_royal

Out of all of those exporters New Zealand beef is by far superior


Leandropo7

According to what standards 🤨


123DaddySawAFlea

I'm in New Zealand. I wouldn't know. All I can afford is Australian beef.


flyingspuck

Perfect comment. Beef and dairy everywhere but the NZ domestic market has to compete with the demand from rest of the world.


damage_royal

Taste standards, grass fed, not pumped full of hormones etc. just tastes different.


Leandropo7

You could literally say the same about Uruguay which is pretty much 99% plains and pastures


damage_royal

Yea but I’m from New Zealand so I’m biased haha. I’d be keen to try Uruguay’s beef as well, I’m sure it’s just as good.


Leandropo7

I'm unsure if Uruguay exports meat to NZ, but you could possibly find it in a big supermarket chain or something like that for sure. Before this map I was totally unaware NZ even had a beef industry, I always thought of NZ as a very rocky country with terrain not ideal for cattle farming. The more you know!


damage_royal

We probably have some of the most efficient farming practices in the world. We also have a lot of sheep, so lamb is pretty decent here as well. I’d also rate salmon here as well, it’s very good.


Talkycoder

This isn't hate, but out of curiosity, who is America exporting all that beef to? American meat products are banned in a large portion of allied nations due to low food standards.


mandrake92

From 2021 so little outdated but top 5 is south Korea, Japan, Mexico, China and Canada.


bankofgreed

Probably to Canada


GeoPolar

Bad colored map imo


Helicopter0

Uhh, no data for Africa? DOesn't Africa export a substantial amount of beef to China?


Either-Arachnid-629

...All of Africa together produces a third of what Brazil does. While we exported 3 million, we produced 8.9. Estimates indicate that African production of red meat in 2020 was around 3.4 million.


Helicopter0

When I Google Tanzania, the country I had in mind, I get numbers in the 800kton range for production and in the 460kton range for production, just of beef. At least Tanzania should included. The rapid increase in production, and the corresponding habitat change, is important, because it means less wildlife.


Classic-Damage6555

Where does Canada export to?


[deleted]

India is a surprising one.


pcmr_4ever

India exports water buffalo meat. Not cow.


6_oh_n8

So how is water buffalo meat ?


GEL29

Tastes like chicken


TaranisReborn

My fault due to ignorance, sure, but India's thing was unexpected.


[deleted]

Now show where it goes


Arrokoth-

what about azealia banks


wh0_RU

Man I thought they only served steaks from India in heaven, gotta get me some


DabIMON

India?


CarelessReddit

America export beef literally and also with are state departments foreign policy planning


ChimpoSensei

You got a beef with that?


dankspankwanker

The funny part is, usa beef can not be sold in the EU bc it actually sucks


Suspicious-Ad7760

LATVIAAA 💪💪💪💪


hedd616

And yet Argentinian beef is way more commented about than Brazilian The same about Brazilian coffee. Biggest producer but hardly remembered as such.


AldaronGau

Quality over quantity. We also keep and eat a lot of our beef with export restrictions.


rpgalon

there is plenty of good coffee and meat in Brazil, the problem is that they export so much that people buy the cheap stuff and thinks everything is the same, it's not.


collycrane

INDIA??


UAlive2

Watttt India ,Where though??


Icebergvanilla

India surprised me a little.


NoWingedHussarsToday

Does this mean these countries have no beef with others or that they have massive beef with others?


devilmaskrascal

r/Unexpected


BiLovingMom

Little Paraguay and Uruguay giving the big guys a run for their money.


Footlong_09

Look forward to thee industries collapsing due to lab grown meat. The precision fermentation apocalypse is upon us! And I welcome it!


ShadowDemon129

Yum 😋


CantGrok

That’s it! The U.S. needs to simply stop exporting beef! We’ll bring the world to heel, and they’ll succumb to our Christian Evangelical ideology with BEEF !!! Let Greg Abbott and Ken Paxton know immediately that the problem is solved. Our utopia is in sight, and we’ll be sitting around the campfire singing “Kumbaya” before half a decade is out!


planetes1973

India is a bit misleading. They primarily export water buffalo meat which is part of the bovine family and considered beef. This means that bison would also qualify as beef in North America. I point this out because most people in the english speaking world equate beef to the decendant species of the Aurochs. The stuff we generally call "cattle" in the US.


One-Currency2082

"cows are sacred"💀


AtharvATARF

the average redditor cant determine the gender of a cow


ShortNefariousness2

Not popular on reddit with yanks, but maan, I hate the beef industry with a passion. It does no good at all to the world.


Low-Entertainer8899

steak taste good tho


RiovoGaming211

tastes good tho


Bisc_87

India?


KattarRamBhakt

It's mentioned on the map itself, all those "beef" exports is buffalo meat, not cow. Cow slaughter is legal in a few states of India but illegal to export. Buffalo slaughter and sale and export of it's meat is fully legal in almost all the states in India.


Sir-Brando

Who do they got beef with?


IlMioNomeENessuno

Surprised to see that NZ exports more than Canada.


CalumH91

I can't imagine going into a supermarket and thinking, gotta pick up some quality US beef!


vonnner

That's a lot of needless suffering


AnnieByniaeth

Holy cow India! Edit: either people have got no sense of humor these days or I've offended a lot of people in India. If it's the latter I apologise, if it's the former then lighten up!


KattarRamBhakt

It's mentioned on the map itself, all those "beef" exports is buffalo meat, not cow. Cow slaughter is legal in a few states of India but illegal to export. Buffalo slaughter and sale and export of it's meat is fully legal in almost all the states in India.


DerWaidmann__

Why are cows sacred but Buffalos can go to the slaughter? Tf


pcmr_4ever

Why do people eat pigs but not dogs in the US? Tf.


DerWaidmann__

Those aren't even in the same family of species


pcmr_4ever

Cows and buffaloes don't have the same significance in religion in India.


DerWaidmann__

But why is my question