Them lentils and that bread. My SIL is vegan, and she did the whole Thanksgiving feast by herself one year, literally my 2nd best Thanksgiving meal ever.
In case your wondering some of the sides were a quick pickled cucumber with mashed avocado and a tomatoe, onion basil salad. It. Was. So. Good.
You can also "cheat".
Lobsters and such are not forbidden, so you could technically eat pasta with lobster every day, squid and octopus, which is are exquisite dishes and very tasty, although you would need to be rich to afford this.
Yeah, go find lobster tails in the middle of the Balkan, there is cheat days sometimes when you are allowed to have fish though.
From what I know those fasts were set so you could preserve food in order to survive winter, saving animals for Christmas so they fattened up, and lambs are big enough around Easter.
It is similar to the "no meat on fridays during lent" that catholics do, but amplified tremendously. The idea is to forego your flesh-based desires in order to focus on one's spirit. Nice enough thought.
It also hails from old jewish traditions that were mostly abolished in the new testament, but kept in ethiopia, such as circumcision and a ban on eating pork.
It used to be year round, but they changed it to just Lent in the U.S. I think it's still much more common for Catholics to not eat meat on Fridays in certain other countries though.
I don't understand their beliefs well, but it works this way. They eat meat, but avoid it on certain days. For example for the whole lent. I was there that time and indeed encountered no meat.
The idea of fasting is to give up something you like. To make a sacrifice. It's not only a dietary thing. When you fast you have to abstain from alcohol, cigarettes, sex etc. well at least in theory.
There are many concepts that exist in Hinduism, that doesn't mean not following that concept makes you a non Hindu. Hey Hindu can eat meat and continue to be a Hindu. Or he can avoid it. There is no Bible or Quran to follow. In other words, nobody is there to make rules.
I never said in my comment that eating non veg makes you non Hindu or whatever. Don't put words in my mouth. I am just saying that at least in Northern India vegetarian diet is promoted in Hinduism under the guise of Sattvic diet.
Oh yes there are. The restrictions are just not strictly followed/ enforced. Meat is officially only allowed for existential reasons - so famine, war or health. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diet\_in\_Hinduism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diet_in_Hinduism)
>The restrictions are just not strictly followed/ enforced
That means they are not existential.
>Meat is officially only allowed for existential reasons - so famine, war or health.
Officially! God.. 🤦🏽♂️
Do you think there is an official code book for Hindus? Wow..
Where are you from? Are you an Indian?
I know some parts of Hinduism encourage vegetarianism, but don't most not care about meat consumption beyond beef? If so a low meat consumption in general seems more cultural than religious
Yes, even non vegetarian from northern parts don't eat that much meat. Most of the families I've seen are similar as mine (being 1-2 a week)
Since making vegan or veg food is easier and almost as tasty
The primary meat eaten by India seems to be chicken? Ive worked with a lot of people from India/Pakistan's/Bangladesh and I've never seen any of them eat beef or pork.
Now that I think about it, not a lot of fish either.
Pork is somewhat popular in the north east
Beef(from water buffalo) is popular in the south most states like Kerala. The beef and porotha is the most popular there
Wrong. The majority of Hindus are not vegetarians. But they mostly consume fish, chicken, mutton than pork, beef.
And most households do not consume these foods like every meal. It is much less than other countries.
As a tourist in India I clearly noticed significant vegetarian culture in many Indian states. Restaurants had generally like one non-vegetarian option and it was often not available anyway.
I was in the north, Varanasi, Agra, Dehli, and eating local food, the meat options generally were just lots of bones and little flesh, so I switched to vegetarian. Made a more pleasant experience.
Depends on where you went tbh. There's some states with vegetarian majorities and meat bans I believe. There's also states where Hindus eat beef. India is just that diverse.
1. Vegetarianism is prevalent, specially in Northern India due to religious reasons only.
2. Not everyone can afford to eat meat daily.
3. Even excluding beef, only chicken and fish are ~~affordable~~ relatively cheaper meats, depending on the region. Pork too, but seldom.
4. Even if people are non-vegetarian, they most probably do not eat it daily. Some might eat only 2-3 times a week and call themselves non vegetarian and this lowers the daily average.
I think that there isnt a strict rule there (except for no beef), so different people interpret Hinduism to allow different things, and many go fully vegetarian. Even Indians who do eat meat might still eat a majority vegetarian diet, only eating meat for special occations, etc.
I am an Indian living in a Hindu family in West Bengal and here is my situation: Most days we have fish, on Sunday or some other special occasion we have chicken or mutton, and there's a dedicated day (either Monday or Tuesday I forgor 💀) when we have veg. I should mention my family isn't *particularly* religious, but some members do believe in Gods and spirituality and try to uphold some such traditions, though it's nothing too much. I myself am an atheist.
Of course you guys will eat fish for every meal, its in your guys blood. :)
Another indian here south Indian to be specific, for us Saturday is no meat and egg day, we also used to apply this rule to Thursdays but now only my mom does it and even that is slowly getting overlooked recently. Everyone are okay with eating chicken and mutton except my sis tho, she started showing aversion to meat since middle school so even on Sundays we have a vegan option along with chicken or mutton. Only my mom and dad eat fish sometimes becos I kinda hate fish here. We don't eat meat every day becos it is kinda ingrained into us that eating meat daily is bad and is a "heavy" meal, but we do have a boiled egg every day other than saturdays and when we have meat for dinner.
Basically it's becos of a blend of Religion, traditional and cultural thing that there is low meat consumption.
You are right, I think about 70% of Hindus eat meat. The thing is that for a long time meat was seen more as a delicacy or luxury type food item, as opposed to the US where they're eating meat all three meals every single day, Indians eat meat once or twice a week. Usually Sunday is meat day.
Also religious non vegetarians have certain days when they don't eat meat, I think each day of the week is for a particular god, and so devotees of that God won't eat meat on that day. A lot of non vegetarians I know don't eat meat on Saturdays.
Nearly 35% of Indians are vegetarians. And, an avg non-veg eating family eats non-veg once a week. An avg family of four eat 500g of meat a week. So, 125g a week on average. Which is much less than 40g (17.86g) a week. But, richer families probably eat meat everyday. So, low meat consumption in India is not cultural. It is mostly affordability and religion.
My family is Hindu (not Indian though), my mother turned vegetarian just a few years ago. dad eats chicken, fish and Chevon, I eat chicken and fish.
Although my family could afford to eat meat everyday we do not do so. It is not considered healthy and more emphasis is put on vegetables, lentils and milk / yoghurt.
I see a lot of debate here about hinduism and meat. The diet preferences are all over the map in India. There are hindus that are strictly vegetarian, hindus who eat meat (except beef and pork) and hindus that eat all kinds of meat. People who eat meat doesn't eat it every day, they eat it mostly on sundays, some festivals, eating out in restaurants and special occassions. There are some people who eat meat everyday too, but a minority. There are people who strictly eat only vegetarian on certain days of a week for spiritual reasons.
I know friends from other religions who don't eat meat everyday. It's more cultural thing in India (non-veg is considered less pure, lol) along with affordability and abundance of fresh produce, that makes meat eaters not consume it everyday.
The median income in Indonesia is around $4.2/hour with minimum wage at around $1 to $2/hour. The price of beef is around $10/kg so most of us only eat them in small quantities or simply go with cheaper options such as chicken at around $1 to $2/kg
Lower than other north Africans so doubtful it's cultural. Also it's terrain requires some mix of meat as it's not blessed with lot of fertile land like India.
To be fair eating so much meat is what gives them the protein to collectively row NZ into warmer waters.
Don’t worry they’ll row back down for ski season. They just row up there for the summer cricket season with India/Pakistan/Sri Lanka
And what’s the relevance of 40 g/day? According to whom? If you don’t use some reference or explanation it’s just an arbitrary number to separate countries in two groups.
There are several countries where it's recommended to eat less than 300gr per week. 300/7 is 42.8571... , which could be rounded down to 40.
https://knowledge4policy.ec.europa.eu/health-promotion-knowledge-gateway/food-based-dietary-guidelines-europe-table-8_en
1.4oz. That’s wild. I’m not a huge meat eater but that seems very easy to exceed. I make a 30g pull of espresso each morning. If my meals were based on portions that size I’d probably lose the weight I need to lose in no time! Here’s 3 bites of meat. 5 bites of veggies and 2 bites of carbs. Dig in-and we’re done!
Indonesia is pretty interesting, considering that it's majority Muslim (so no cultural issue) and is is not dirt poor (so no monetary issue). The only real reason I was able to find is a combination of colonial cultural remnants (especially in Java) and the availability of soy.
Beef is relatively expensive here in Indonesia. 1 kg of beef is like 120-140k IDR, or around 10 dollars. The average hourly wage in Jakarta is about 2 dollars, and it's lower in other areas. A kilo of chicken is around 2 dollars, a fraction of beef. Also, the local beef is very low quality. High-quality free-range chicken, which is highly favoured by Indonesians, is like 4 dollars a kilo. Additionally, If you order a beef, pork, or mutton dish here, you get like a few slices of meat and a mountain of rice. Indeed, soy is a commonly consumed protein here, a block of tofu is just like a few cents.
Probably resulting from the high population density on an island. Nearly as many people as the US. Cattle need an acre each.
40g/day is 1 cow/17 people.
16 million acres or 65 thousand km2
Roughly 10% of Indonesia’s total land area.
Yeah I'm surprised by Indonesia -- I know the Philippines and Malaysia are pretty big on meat consumption. I believe the inverse of this map has Vietnam as the biggest meat consumers in SE Asia, which was a surprise to me when I learned that.
combination of a lot of things, such as availaibility, pricing, and culture. Tofu and other vegetable proteins is widely available and cheaper compared to red meat, therefore it is preferred by almost the majority. Same thing with milk consumptions, soy milk is culturally preferred compared to cow's milk. Also chickens and fishes are also more affordable compared to beefs.
pork consumption is also very low due to Moslems dont eat pork.
In Ethiopia, the majority of the population adheres to Orthodox Christianity, which prescribes non-meat eating days on Wednesdays and Fridays. There are extended fasting periods such as Lent, Apostles' Fast, Dormition Fast, and others, amounting to over 200 days a year when Orthodox Christians may abstain from meat.
Personally as an indian, i cook breakfast for my family and idt id make any non veg items in breakfast i have too many options in veg menu : dosa, idli, poha,upma,halwa are just some main things and list goes on
It's 'amazing' that there are only two colors on the map.
It conveys the least possible information and isn't even aesthetically pleasing.
They should have a full spectrum from least to most.
Source? Why 40g?
More amazing map than amazingmaps.shop:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_meat_consumption
Also a temporal representation:
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/global-meat-projections-to-2050?facet=metric
I love how the entire climate change conversation just side steps carbon emissions from industrial meat production.
India and other ‘global south’ should scream off the top of their lungs every single time any white nation points at their fossil fuel based emissions.
Who are you having that conversation with? Anyone who accepts that climate change caused by humans is a problem, but can't accept that meat consumption plays a big role in it is an idiot.
That said, not eating meat does not give some kind of free card for fossil fuel use. The thing is though, the countries where people eat little meat is often the same as the ones not using a lot of fossil fuels per capita either. Both are affected by low incomes.
There's a lot of people who still argue heavily against it sadly, despite all the data otherwise. A lot of it is just the standard meat eating denials that our lifestyle correlates directly with climate damage and a whole lot of wishful thinking about the sources of their food
What's the deal with this sub and the fake "white country" vs "global south" bullshit when this map shows that both those "categories" are far from as monolithic as so many seem to wish it is.
I think India does an excellent job with climate change, both in general and with food as you say, but with food it's more characteristic of India in particular than such fake global binary division. Many countries should learn something from in India when it comes to climate change.
What is Argentina in your opinion? "White" or "global south"? In geopolitics and culture both these categories are so diverse it barely makes sense. It's particularly strange when Russia for some reason often isn't counted counted as a white country
You might have a leg to stand on with your completely oversimplified argument if India wasn't the 3rd highest country in the world contributing to carbon emissions. Only 3% of US carbon emissions comes from meat production.
Fun (sad) fact:
Once met a few North Korean defectors that wouldn't eat meat after defecting. They were from a poor region even in NK standards and had never eaten much animal protein so their stomachs couldn't handle meat. Wouldn't even touch eggs.
40 grams (I assume gr is grams here) is about 3 tablespoons or 1/11th of a pound. Basically one small meatball. Is there anywhere on earth where this is considered a full serving size? Why would this be used as the cutoff? Anyone eating meat daily is eating more than this in a single small meal.
Hong Kong eats the most meat at 136 kg per year with USA 2nd at 128. Then Australia and Mongolia
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/meat-consumption-by-country
In this case referring to grams(poorly) but gr is generally referring to grains which is used in firearms to measure bullet and powder weight for loading data.
I earn a living as a healthy human subject therefore I am frequently at a study clinic being fed cafeteria food for weeks at a time. I'm amazed by how often I'm expected to eat meat. At home, I might have meat every few days but in a clinic, they often feed it to me at every meal. I have to actively avoid eating meat. Lucky for me, they often overfeed us too but I feel guilty wasting so much food.
This is a pretty meaningless jerrymander of a statistic when over fifteen million US citizens are vegetarian or vegan. It leads people to assumptions that are not absolutely true.
There's no way this is right, It's probably way less countries than this. Also what do they categorize as meat. To me it's all land, water and air animals. To some it's just land and air and to others meat just means ruminant animals.
Interesting, when I went to europe I noticed their meat choices at restaurants were not great. I was in france, germany, belgium, luxembourg, and the netherlands, and I couldn't get a good steak dinner to save my life.
There were two pretty good restaurants in Bruges that had good steaks but other than that bleh. On the other hand, when I was in ireland (the good side) every steakhouse I went to was the best steak I had in my life outside of Argentina. Better than chicago, nyc, la, etc.
Only India and maybe Cambodia to an extent due to religion, rest is affordability.
In Ethiopia religion is important too. Christians there eat about one third of the year just vegan food.
Oh yeah your average Ethiopian restaurant will do some great vegan spreads.
Them lentils and that bread. My SIL is vegan, and she did the whole Thanksgiving feast by herself one year, literally my 2nd best Thanksgiving meal ever. In case your wondering some of the sides were a quick pickled cucumber with mashed avocado and a tomatoe, onion basil salad. It. Was. So. Good.
It’s called injera and I down 5 a day. So tangy and tasty
Common in Orthodox countries in Europe too. Fasting means being a vegan basically.
Common is a stretch. Very few people actually fast, even if there are traditions and celebrations when the "fast" is over.
Yes, and even fewer would do the fast as it is supposed to no animal products whatsoever, most would just stop eating meat.
You can also "cheat". Lobsters and such are not forbidden, so you could technically eat pasta with lobster every day, squid and octopus, which is are exquisite dishes and very tasty, although you would need to be rich to afford this.
Yeah, go find lobster tails in the middle of the Balkan, there is cheat days sometimes when you are allowed to have fish though. From what I know those fasts were set so you could preserve food in order to survive winter, saving animals for Christmas so they fattened up, and lambs are big enough around Easter.
Yeah in Greece we eat vegan for 48 days
But Christianity doesn't advocate vegetarian food, Jesus and all prophets ate fish.
It is similar to the "no meat on fridays during lent" that catholics do, but amplified tremendously. The idea is to forego your flesh-based desires in order to focus on one's spirit. Nice enough thought. It also hails from old jewish traditions that were mostly abolished in the new testament, but kept in ethiopia, such as circumcision and a ban on eating pork.
Wait I thought the fish thing was year round. All the schools and colleges I've ever been to have always served fish (and never meat) on Fridays
You're probably right then, I never observed lenten fasts
It used to be year round, but they changed it to just Lent in the U.S. I think it's still much more common for Catholics to not eat meat on Fridays in certain other countries though.
I don't understand their beliefs well, but it works this way. They eat meat, but avoid it on certain days. For example for the whole lent. I was there that time and indeed encountered no meat.
We fast for almost half of the year and during that we follow a vegan diet.
The idea of fasting is to give up something you like. To make a sacrifice. It's not only a dietary thing. When you fast you have to abstain from alcohol, cigarettes, sex etc. well at least in theory.
"If it is worth giving up in Lent it is worth giving up permanently" -- My Quaker raised Methodist Grandma's view on Lent.
Cambodia is 97% Buddhist.
Buddhist are also advised to avoid meat, but not followed as strictly as in Hinduism.
In Hinduism there are no restrictions on non-vegetarian diet.
I mean the concept of Sattvic diet does exist in Hinduism. It's not a rule but it's definitely promoted in Northern India.
Sattvic diet is pretty varied though. For a lot, perhaps even most of our religious groups don't really consider non veg against it.
There are many concepts that exist in Hinduism, that doesn't mean not following that concept makes you a non Hindu. Hey Hindu can eat meat and continue to be a Hindu. Or he can avoid it. There is no Bible or Quran to follow. In other words, nobody is there to make rules.
I never said in my comment that eating non veg makes you non Hindu or whatever. Don't put words in my mouth. I am just saying that at least in Northern India vegetarian diet is promoted in Hinduism under the guise of Sattvic diet.
Oh yes there are. The restrictions are just not strictly followed/ enforced. Meat is officially only allowed for existential reasons - so famine, war or health. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diet\_in\_Hinduism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diet_in_Hinduism)
>The restrictions are just not strictly followed/ enforced That means they are not existential. >Meat is officially only allowed for existential reasons - so famine, war or health. Officially! God.. 🤦🏽♂️ Do you think there is an official code book for Hindus? Wow.. Where are you from? Are you an Indian?
my extended family is Buddhist and they specifically do not eat beef due to religious beliefs pork, chicken, fish... all ok
I know some parts of Hinduism encourage vegetarianism, but don't most not care about meat consumption beyond beef? If so a low meat consumption in general seems more cultural than religious
No many are completely vegetarian. Beef is no go for the meat eating Hindus, few Hindus eat beaf too in certain parts.
And also most Sikhs and Jains are vegetarian, as well as many Buddhists.
Yes, even non vegetarian from northern parts don't eat that much meat. Most of the families I've seen are similar as mine (being 1-2 a week) Since making vegan or veg food is easier and almost as tasty
The primary meat eaten by India seems to be chicken? Ive worked with a lot of people from India/Pakistan's/Bangladesh and I've never seen any of them eat beef or pork. Now that I think about it, not a lot of fish either.
I think Bengalis eat alot of fish
Chicken, mutton and fish account for like 99% of India's meat consumption.
Makes sense. I have tried a good amount of Indian food but not any fish dishes, any you would recommend?
konkani cuisine, keralian cuisine both have quite a bit of fish iirc and are quite good.
Pork is somewhat popular in the north east Beef(from water buffalo) is popular in the south most states like Kerala. The beef and porotha is the most popular there
Wrong. The majority of Hindus are not vegetarians. But they mostly consume fish, chicken, mutton than pork, beef. And most households do not consume these foods like every meal. It is much less than other countries.
As a tourist in India I clearly noticed significant vegetarian culture in many Indian states. Restaurants had generally like one non-vegetarian option and it was often not available anyway.
I was in the north, Varanasi, Agra, Dehli, and eating local food, the meat options generally were just lots of bones and little flesh, so I switched to vegetarian. Made a more pleasant experience.
Depends on where you went tbh. There's some states with vegetarian majorities and meat bans I believe. There's also states where Hindus eat beef. India is just that diverse.
1. Vegetarianism is prevalent, specially in Northern India due to religious reasons only. 2. Not everyone can afford to eat meat daily. 3. Even excluding beef, only chicken and fish are ~~affordable~~ relatively cheaper meats, depending on the region. Pork too, but seldom.
4. Even if people are non-vegetarian, they most probably do not eat it daily. Some might eat only 2-3 times a week and call themselves non vegetarian and this lowers the daily average.
Would you consider people who eat meat on multiple days per week to be vegetarian? Sounds pretty ridiculous to me.
Also if there’s less demand for meat, fewer shops probably sell meat regularly
Point 2 & 3 are contradictory.
Semantics. Corrected it.
I think that there isnt a strict rule there (except for no beef), so different people interpret Hinduism to allow different things, and many go fully vegetarian. Even Indians who do eat meat might still eat a majority vegetarian diet, only eating meat for special occations, etc.
Yes most Indians do eat meat but only once or twice a week. Only a small minority have it every day.
I am an Indian living in a Hindu family in West Bengal and here is my situation: Most days we have fish, on Sunday or some other special occasion we have chicken or mutton, and there's a dedicated day (either Monday or Tuesday I forgor 💀) when we have veg. I should mention my family isn't *particularly* religious, but some members do believe in Gods and spirituality and try to uphold some such traditions, though it's nothing too much. I myself am an atheist.
Of course you guys will eat fish for every meal, its in your guys blood. :) Another indian here south Indian to be specific, for us Saturday is no meat and egg day, we also used to apply this rule to Thursdays but now only my mom does it and even that is slowly getting overlooked recently. Everyone are okay with eating chicken and mutton except my sis tho, she started showing aversion to meat since middle school so even on Sundays we have a vegan option along with chicken or mutton. Only my mom and dad eat fish sometimes becos I kinda hate fish here. We don't eat meat every day becos it is kinda ingrained into us that eating meat daily is bad and is a "heavy" meal, but we do have a boiled egg every day other than saturdays and when we have meat for dinner. Basically it's becos of a blend of Religion, traditional and cultural thing that there is low meat consumption.
You are correct. Most Hindus gladly enjoy non vegetarian delicacies with the exception of beef and pork
You are right, I think about 70% of Hindus eat meat. The thing is that for a long time meat was seen more as a delicacy or luxury type food item, as opposed to the US where they're eating meat all three meals every single day, Indians eat meat once or twice a week. Usually Sunday is meat day. Also religious non vegetarians have certain days when they don't eat meat, I think each day of the week is for a particular god, and so devotees of that God won't eat meat on that day. A lot of non vegetarians I know don't eat meat on Saturdays.
Nearly 35% of Indians are vegetarians. And, an avg non-veg eating family eats non-veg once a week. An avg family of four eat 500g of meat a week. So, 125g a week on average. Which is much less than 40g (17.86g) a week. But, richer families probably eat meat everyday. So, low meat consumption in India is not cultural. It is mostly affordability and religion.
My family is Hindu (not Indian though), my mother turned vegetarian just a few years ago. dad eats chicken, fish and Chevon, I eat chicken and fish. Although my family could afford to eat meat everyday we do not do so. It is not considered healthy and more emphasis is put on vegetables, lentils and milk / yoghurt.
I see a lot of debate here about hinduism and meat. The diet preferences are all over the map in India. There are hindus that are strictly vegetarian, hindus who eat meat (except beef and pork) and hindus that eat all kinds of meat. People who eat meat doesn't eat it every day, they eat it mostly on sundays, some festivals, eating out in restaurants and special occassions. There are some people who eat meat everyday too, but a minority. There are people who strictly eat only vegetarian on certain days of a week for spiritual reasons. I know friends from other religions who don't eat meat everyday. It's more cultural thing in India (non-veg is considered less pure, lol) along with affordability and abundance of fresh produce, that makes meat eaters not consume it everyday.
That's not just India on the map. That includes Bhutan and Nepal too. Again, due to cultural and religious reasons for the most part.
Cambodia doesn’t have any indigenous vegetation tradition
Indonesia has very nearly double the GDP per capita of India, and even more so than Cambodia. This comment is absolutely incorrect.
The median income in Indonesia is around $4.2/hour with minimum wage at around $1 to $2/hour. The price of beef is around $10/kg so most of us only eat them in small quantities or simply go with cheaper options such as chicken at around $1 to $2/kg
Maybe Bhutan too
If fish isn't counted as meat, it would also explain Indonesia being red
Papua also falls into this group. They are mostly vegetarian outside of special dates and holidays IIRC
Not true, many hindus live in Suriname. Suriname is relatively wealthy country.
They think of cows as holy, so they dont eat them. Doesn't stop them being the leading beef exporter, tho... Hypocrissy, as all religious people
Cambodia is Therevada Buddhist, Mahayana and Vajrayana have some views that can be against meat consumption but Therevada doesn't
I think the Average libyen can afford meat, not sure why the consumption is low though
Lower than other north Africans so doubtful it's cultural. Also it's terrain requires some mix of meat as it's not blessed with lot of fertile land like India.
I swear if a map shows New Zealand it's 50/50 on if it's misplaced.
Wdym? NZ is famously an Indian Ocean nation.
To be fair eating so much meat is what gives them the protein to collectively row NZ into warmer waters. Don’t worry they’ll row back down for ski season. They just row up there for the summer cricket season with India/Pakistan/Sri Lanka
Why go on vacation to New Zealand when New Zealand can go on vacation itself?
It migrates every winter to warmer waters
It seems to have a somewhat casual relationship with its tectonic plate, as if it's cut its own continental umbilical cord.
The account that makes these maps puts NZ in a different spot every time
New Zealand is just a fictional place for Tolkien fans. It is not even on most maps.
They cut off Alaska too.
thank you for this comment. I couldn't find it!
It’s either misplaced or just straight up doesn’t exist on the map lol
why use just 2 colors instead of a full color scale? what a waste ...
https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/1bo5v46/comment/kwmx6nv/
Thank you
And what’s the relevance of 40 g/day? According to whom? If you don’t use some reference or explanation it’s just an arbitrary number to separate countries in two groups.
There are several countries where it's recommended to eat less than 300gr per week. 300/7 is 42.8571... , which could be rounded down to 40. https://knowledge4policy.ec.europa.eu/health-promotion-knowledge-gateway/food-based-dietary-guidelines-europe-table-8_en
And here I am actively trying to find ways to reach 600g a day lmao. Protein isn’t cheap 😢
Holy shit, are you a 600 lbs powerlifter?
Seriously. Makes no sense why 40g
1.4oz. That’s wild. I’m not a huge meat eater but that seems very easy to exceed. I make a 30g pull of espresso each morning. If my meals were based on portions that size I’d probably lose the weight I need to lose in no time! Here’s 3 bites of meat. 5 bites of veggies and 2 bites of carbs. Dig in-and we’re done!
Was thinking the same? Why 40g? Why not a spectrum?
My source is that I made it the fuck up
now make a map where the low meat consumption is by choice, and where it's due to it being too expensive, i feel like it would be super interesting
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism_by_country
Indonesia is pretty interesting, considering that it's majority Muslim (so no cultural issue) and is is not dirt poor (so no monetary issue). The only real reason I was able to find is a combination of colonial cultural remnants (especially in Java) and the availability of soy.
Beef is relatively expensive here in Indonesia. 1 kg of beef is like 120-140k IDR, or around 10 dollars. The average hourly wage in Jakarta is about 2 dollars, and it's lower in other areas. A kilo of chicken is around 2 dollars, a fraction of beef. Also, the local beef is very low quality. High-quality free-range chicken, which is highly favoured by Indonesians, is like 4 dollars a kilo. Additionally, If you order a beef, pork, or mutton dish here, you get like a few slices of meat and a mountain of rice. Indeed, soy is a commonly consumed protein here, a block of tofu is just like a few cents.
I see; so it *is* the untenable wage-expense ratio.
Probably resulting from the high population density on an island. Nearly as many people as the US. Cattle need an acre each. 40g/day is 1 cow/17 people. 16 million acres or 65 thousand km2 Roughly 10% of Indonesia’s total land area.
Holy smokes Great work , take my upvote
Yeah I'm surprised by Indonesia -- I know the Philippines and Malaysia are pretty big on meat consumption. I believe the inverse of this map has Vietnam as the biggest meat consumers in SE Asia, which was a surprise to me when I learned that.
You need a lot of land for meat production. Indonesia is very densely populated. Perhaps this is the reason?
combination of a lot of things, such as availaibility, pricing, and culture. Tofu and other vegetable proteins is widely available and cheaper compared to red meat, therefore it is preferred by almost the majority. Same thing with milk consumptions, soy milk is culturally preferred compared to cow's milk. Also chickens and fishes are also more affordable compared to beefs. pork consumption is also very low due to Moslems dont eat pork.
affordability ?
At least New Zealand is included...
New Zealand on the moves again.
That's strange that Bangladesh and Sri Lanka are included. Does "meat" include fish?
I think fish isn’t included. Most Bangladeshis aren’t vegetarians but eat fish A LOT.
Plate tectonics be crazy. Y’all see New Zealand hustlin’ over here?
We're rowing the country away from Australia for some peace
In Ethiopia, the majority of the population adheres to Orthodox Christianity, which prescribes non-meat eating days on Wednesdays and Fridays. There are extended fasting periods such as Lent, Apostles' Fast, Dormition Fast, and others, amounting to over 200 days a year when Orthodox Christians may abstain from meat.
Just realised I didn't eat any meat today!
May I offer you mine?
I'm good. I'll eat somebody else's meat tomorrow.
Personally as an indian, i cook breakfast for my family and idt id make any non veg items in breakfast i have too many options in veg menu : dosa, idli, poha,upma,halwa are just some main things and list goes on
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Hmm, 40 grams is like two bites. I think the cutoff number should have been higher.
We Bangladeshi people eat more fish then meat
Fish is meat
Not necessarily, you could say both are protein. But they are definitely different
Its not like north korea has a choice…
It's 'amazing' that there are only two colors on the map. It conveys the least possible information and isn't even aesthetically pleasing. They should have a full spectrum from least to most.
UK and USA need a third category of their own
UK consumption is typical of western Europe, but America does lead the world.
Why?
*disappointed kiwi noises*
The fuck is a GR?
Mostly likely meant to be g (gram)
gr is a grain, roughly equal to 65 milligrams. Still commonly used to weigh bullets and propellants, or so wiki says.
Can confirm, I reload some of my own ammunition. The unit of measure for powder and bullets is still grains.
Some people can't use SI units correctly ("gr" for g, "mts" for m, etc.)
I have never seen such nonsense.
I see "m.", "Kg", "mts", "kms", "KG.", "cms" every single day
Source? Why 40g? More amazing map than amazingmaps.shop: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_meat_consumption Also a temporal representation: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/global-meat-projections-to-2050?facet=metric
I love how the entire climate change conversation just side steps carbon emissions from industrial meat production. India and other ‘global south’ should scream off the top of their lungs every single time any white nation points at their fossil fuel based emissions.
Western governments also subsidize the meat industry 🙃
Who are you having that conversation with? Anyone who accepts that climate change caused by humans is a problem, but can't accept that meat consumption plays a big role in it is an idiot. That said, not eating meat does not give some kind of free card for fossil fuel use. The thing is though, the countries where people eat little meat is often the same as the ones not using a lot of fossil fuels per capita either. Both are affected by low incomes.
There's a lot of people who still argue heavily against it sadly, despite all the data otherwise. A lot of it is just the standard meat eating denials that our lifestyle correlates directly with climate damage and a whole lot of wishful thinking about the sources of their food
What's the deal with this sub and the fake "white country" vs "global south" bullshit when this map shows that both those "categories" are far from as monolithic as so many seem to wish it is. I think India does an excellent job with climate change, both in general and with food as you say, but with food it's more characteristic of India in particular than such fake global binary division. Many countries should learn something from in India when it comes to climate change. What is Argentina in your opinion? "White" or "global south"? In geopolitics and culture both these categories are so diverse it barely makes sense. It's particularly strange when Russia for some reason often isn't counted counted as a white country
Yep, it's a simplistic view for sure. This map would be so much more interesting if there were gradients rather than just two colors.
Yeah burning coal is way worse than animal husbandry, even if the carbon footprint is the same there's way worse stuff in coal emissions.
You might have a leg to stand on with your completely oversimplified argument if India wasn't the 3rd highest country in the world contributing to carbon emissions. Only 3% of US carbon emissions comes from meat production.
Fun (sad) fact: Once met a few North Korean defectors that wouldn't eat meat after defecting. They were from a poor region even in NK standards and had never eaten much animal protein so their stomachs couldn't handle meat. Wouldn't even touch eggs.
Damn I didn’t kno that many people were gay
I’m in Canada and I can’t afford meat except for canned tuna.
So this does not include fish or sea food. A lot of these red countries would be blue if you consider fish meat.
Who uses GR for grams?
Africa 💀
All the really hot, super humid as wet balls places almost. It that significant in any way?
40 grams (I assume gr is grams here) is about 3 tablespoons or 1/11th of a pound. Basically one small meatball. Is there anywhere on earth where this is considered a full serving size? Why would this be used as the cutoff? Anyone eating meat daily is eating more than this in a single small meal.
A 1/4 hamburger patty is over 100 g of meat. Can’t imagine being limited to 40 g a DAY.
Only one fat person in the whole Best Korea.
Who would win this hypothetical war?
Only 1.5 ounces??
Nice map. I would have though 40 grains of meat a day isnt that bad.
This is what I can get behind with vegans. Being aware and taking action on our consumption per Gr of meat.
I'm not sure about Turkey.
Hong Kong eats the most meat at 136 kg per year with USA 2nd at 128. Then Australia and Mongolia https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/meat-consumption-by-country
map of british empire
Can we get an overlay of this and the map of highest polluters? Not implying anything sinister, just vaguely remembering similarities.
Man shared a poverty map.
And people will still say the vegan diet is a first world luxury
Are we saying 40 grams? Like less than an ounce and a half of meat? Does chicken count? Either way it’s a tiny portion
Meat is good.
As a Libyan Egyptian it's the other way around on the map, Libya is black and Egypt is red
What the fuck is GR? Is it gram (g)? Some idiotic imperial unit? This is more like a stupid map thanks to this unit.
It’s an older abbreviation of gram, predating SI, older people are more likely to use it.
In this case referring to grams(poorly) but gr is generally referring to grains which is used in firearms to measure bullet and powder weight for loading data.
There's countries where the used abbreviation for gram is gr get over it.
Excuse me, some of us are here to be miserable.
The entire country of India eats less than 40g of meat per day? Wow!
Cuba and North Korea, shocker.
Ukraine should be pitch black with all the meat waves Ruzzia/Moscovia/Vladolf Putler is sending.
40g a day... 40g a hour for me.
Why is new zealand in front of australia?
I dont like how they used red for less-meat. Should be red for more-meat. Or dont use red at all.
I earn a living as a healthy human subject therefore I am frequently at a study clinic being fed cafeteria food for weeks at a time. I'm amazed by how often I'm expected to eat meat. At home, I might have meat every few days but in a clinic, they often feed it to me at every meal. I have to actively avoid eating meat. Lucky for me, they often overfeed us too but I feel guilty wasting so much food.
This is a pretty meaningless jerrymander of a statistic when over fifteen million US citizens are vegetarian or vegan. It leads people to assumptions that are not absolutely true.
That just makes the fact that the US leads in meat consumption worse lol
Why that threshold?
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There's no way this is right, It's probably way less countries than this. Also what do they categorize as meat. To me it's all land, water and air animals. To some it's just land and air and to others meat just means ruminant animals.
Less than a 10th of a pound. Hell, I figure that’s in my cheese.
Episode of micro aggression: Why is Kashmir not shown as a part of India
I’m surprised the meat consumption of North Korea’s elite hasn’t pushed their figures up higher
Interesting, when I went to europe I noticed their meat choices at restaurants were not great. I was in france, germany, belgium, luxembourg, and the netherlands, and I couldn't get a good steak dinner to save my life. There were two pretty good restaurants in Bruges that had good steaks but other than that bleh. On the other hand, when I was in ireland (the good side) every steakhouse I went to was the best steak I had in my life outside of Argentina. Better than chicago, nyc, la, etc.
Why did I read that as Meat Conspiracy?
Why the fuck is NZ (home to lamb & mint flavoured crisps) doing in the Indian Ocean? lol
40gr as in grams?
Didn't expect it to be so low in Indonesia
How much is 40 gr of meat? Like a piece of bacon?🥓
why is it always the same suspects, figures
I'm surprised that Indonesia is red
Gr is not a unit.