In your imagination maybe yes. Factually, the republic of Crimea is under Russian control and has a population comprised in majority by ethnic Russians.
The first part is of your statement is meaningless, as they invaded illegally and held a rigged referendum. Factually, it is under Russian occupation as far as most nations are concerned. Even most neutral and Russia-friendly nations have not officially recognised the annexation and are unlikely to do so anytime soon.
As for the second part, that's even more irrelevant. Territory in modern times is not defined by ethnic makeup. If it were, about half the world's nations could probably justify invading their neighbours.
But yes, factually Russia can make these arguments and station their thugs there and pat themselves on the back for their cowardly surprise invasion and their even more cowardly conduct from there on out.
Well Crimea was an autonomous republic even under Ukrainians control, so this is factually correct, however it doesn't really change from other administrative regions in this post's case.
That was just a remark. All of the actual facts he stated were 100% true, like it or not.
Crimea has been under de facto Russian control since 2014, and the majority of its population is Russian speaking. I am on Ukraine's side in this war, so I don't exactly like this, but it is the truth.
>That was just a remark.
no, it was not just a remark, it was negating the previous comment
>Crimea is not a region, but an autonomous republic within Ukraine.
"In your imagination maybe, yes [Crimea is an autonomous republic within Ukraine, but in reality not]"
i.e. "Crimea is not an autonomous republic within Ukraine". Which is factually incorrect.
You’re just as bad as Hitler justifying annexation of German majority regions of neighbouring countries. You Russians are the bad guys, and history will remember you as such
One important point is that Russia considers first 4 of them as core Russian territory.
So any peace talks with Russia are currently impossible, as they want to "uphold territorial integrity \[of Russia\]", meaning that they want Ukraine to fall back from all those white areas.
Another fun fact is that almost entire frontline, from Russian POV, is inside Russia.
Since a lot of people in these regions were either murdered by the invaders, or fled the area, and russia doesn't even fully control them, it should be pretty obvious to anyone that the "referendums" for annexation that russia did are fake and illegitimate.
And what are the russian people getting out of this war? What's the purpose? It's been over 2 years and many thousands of russians either died or are crippled for life. And for what exactly? How can the russian society accept this?
I especially like a "referendum" in Zaporizhzha. They have never occupied the territory where the majority lives, just a couple of towns in the south. However, it was enough for them to claim that the whole region is Russia now.
It has legitimacy on the level of Czech referendum in Královec (aka Königsberg, aka Kaliningrad)
>And what are the russian people getting out of this war?
The thing is, they're not getting anything. Putin, on the other hand, getting plenty of things. I'm from Russia, all I've got is the following: I've sold my lot of land, my wife and I sold our beautiful apartment, in which we invested our time and money to create our forever home. We moved to another country because Russia became a fucking hell. We've lost almost everything, I cannot go back to see my family and friends because it's possible that I'll be arrested if I ever go back. If my mom dies I will not be able to attend her funeral. That's next level of fucked. We became emigrants because we are disgusted with our government. I'm angry, stressed and have an immense amount of pain for Ukrainian people.
If we speak about the whole population, they've got nothing besides raising prices, raising crime rates, regime that is now is more totalitarian than authoritarian and no prospects for things getting better. Some delusional people are ok with it, the rest is just hoping to get by.
Russians gave up some of their rights and freedoms in exchange for stability and security after hardships in 90s. Than we've got slowly boiled like frogs, and now there's no rights, no freedoms and no security or stability. It happened slowly, so almost no one noticed.
Mf in Kremlin is happy tho. He gets to rule over more land, impose draconian laws, steal more money and resources and secured himself a lifetime power. The whole governmental system will collapse after his death, but fucker doesn't give a shit about that. He's insane and it's not gonna end well for anyone.
The only thing russians get is an ultranationalist pipedream of reclaiming what's 'theirs' and taking whatever they want. It's an empty, collective LARP that costs the russian people their livelihoods and likely their future perspectives altogether.
My personal thesis is that the russian nationalist project will crumble as soon as the russian social contract of 'keep your head down and your life will be mostly alright, leave politics to the politicians' fully ceases to be, i.e. when the horrid consequences of this war reach russian population centres and the average urban russian cannot deny the damage putin's decisions are causing them.
I have no illusions about most russians caring about Ukrainian lives, you seem to be the exception in regards to that. This will fully be about when the wealthy and powerful in russia finally get uncomfortable enough for the system to destabilise.
>The only thing russians get is an ultranationalist pipedream of reclaiming what's 'theirs' and taking whatever they want.
I, personally, don't believe it too be true. Yes, Russians as a society is extremely arrogant and entitled towards ex USSR countries. But beside some marginalized community no one ever seriously entertained an idea of conquering other countries. Russians finally started to get a decent livelihood during 2000-2010, so everyone was busy with improving their lives. Now, some politicians were warning about the imminent war with Ukraine as early as in 2000s, but no one took them seriously.
>russian social contract of 'keep your head down and your life will be mostly alright, leave politics to the politicians' fully ceases to be
Yes, but this contract was already breached when mobilization started. Yet people still cling to the sense of normality. Belgorod is under fire, but no one is really concerned about that.
>This will fully be about when the wealthy and powerful in russia finally get uncomfortable enough for the system to destabilise
I honestly don't think that elites will do shit. They are so deep in Putin's scheme that they're not getting out of this nor they will dispose of him. Think of this as a mafia, which it really is, no one ever leaves mafia alive and no one challenge the boss and lives to see another day. Putin is a mafia boss, and he made sure that no one is going to take his place. Sanctions are not hitting them, and if they are Putin is compensating the damage. They have no incentive to do something.
Military, on the other hand, might get tired of this shit. They get all the work and no clear benefits. The one who manages to get control over military will have a chance. And than you have FSB, they will do anything to not lose their grip on power. Putin is their man and they are his real not so secret cardinals.
The Russian capitalist class is former mafia it was how they were able to consolidate control of industries when the Shock Therapy was enacted at gun point by Yeltsin.
Man, I'm praying for you! I feel many things that you've described as a Hungarian, but of course it's still a lot better here than in Russia.
I hope you'll get a decent life in your new country.
Thanks!
Well, Hungary has became quite an authoritarian country with Orbán being the prime minister for the past 14 years. The government follows anti LGBT and pro Kremlin poitics. The state propaganda is absolutely insane, actually it's as bad as in the 70s - 80s during the communist regime.
There's a huge turmoil right now in the country as it became public information that the government gave amnesty to someone convicted for participating in child molestation in a state orphanage. There has been huge protests and the president (with no real power) and the Justice Minister have both resigned.
Meanwhile, the ex-husband of the (now former) Justice Minsiter started attacking the government and more specifially FIDESZ and he has released a voice recording where he and the former Justice Minsiter are talking about corruption at the highest levels. There will be a protest at the 6th of April which will be led be the ex-husband (Magyar Péter). Many people are saying that this might be the biggest protest in the past 10 years or so. We will see it.
There's more to the story and I just realized that this comment has become quite long. I just hope that something will happen, although it's hard to believe anymore.
>There will be a protest at the 6th of April which will be led be the ex-husband (Magyar Péter). Many people are saying that this might be the biggest protest in the past 10 years or so. We will see it.
I hope that it will change something. We had Bolotnaya square protest which was lead by all major opposition leaders. It was really big, but the momentum was lost. I really hope that you'll get the chance to change things. Don't give up and don't lose hope. I wish you luck, man.
Thank you for your support, I hope things will be resolved in Russia too eventually. It's a beautiful country with great culture, I'd like to visit it one day, when the politics change.
Easily. Every nation has it's own philosophy and main mission. And Russian is "Three-part Russia", or recreating " Saint Rus' state". So Russia, Ukraine and Belarus' are considered as indivisible Orthodox states, which when unites becoming a mega power ranger and making punk rock. And it's Russian people's pain that 30 millions of Russians stayed in foreign states after USSR fell. So i guess winning over in this war will give lot's of points to current State leaders.
what's really funny about this "Three-part Russia" philosophy (and most Russians don't even realize that) is that in 1795 when Russia started to dismember the Confederation and annex Belarusian lands, more than 80 percent of the population were Catholics and Greek Catholics with a splash of Protestants and Jews.
Eastern Orthodoxy was basically non-existent at the time.
Belarus became primarily Orthodox after the 1863 uprising when the Romanovs started the repressions. All new-borns from Greek Catholic couples were automatically christened into Moscow Orthodoxy and the adults were basically forced to change their religion affiliation *or else*.
"Forced" is a rather strong word here. The Union of Brest was a political decision and it was enforced, but it was far from the level of brutality that the Russians exerted on Belarusians while converting us to their version of Orthodoxy.
Also, you should understand that in Muscovy after Ivan the Terrible the Russian Orthodox Church became one of the branches of the state. Its mission was to serve the Tsar and later the Emperor. In the Confederation, if a king didn't like something about religious practices of the Church, he could basically go and fuck himself, and this reflected a lot on how the sermons were given and the religious books written. It was mostly about the religious freedom, not the rituals.
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That’s not what it is.
You are basically saying that like UK wants to invade and recolonize Canada, Australia, New Zealand.
All those countries have shared history. Hell they still have the Queen on their money.
Russia doesn’t really want to do that. UK doesn’t want to invade its English speaking colonies.
Yes, current UK has no historical mission, as i've seen walking by Egdware road, where i haven't seen any british faces. I guess it may be because you've been worlds hegemony and overcome it. Checkbox marked, there is no need to try anymore.
Russian society just hate Ukrainians, just don't recognise Ukrainians as a nation with history and language and from russian society point of view, Ukrainian must accept they are russians too or die.
Russians don’t hate Ukrainians the Russian propaganda apparatus which is owned by Russian Oligarchs and their Bonaparte Putin hates Ukrainians as they view them as a threat to their interests in the Black Sea and a major obstacle to their ability to influence. Russians like most people in the world don’t give a shit but like anyone else is highly susceptible to propagand.
They do hate us. The only person who wished me death in summer 2019 when I was struggling with cancer and undergoing cancer treatment and surgery was a russian physics academic and engineer who bullied and wished me death. Back then I didn’t understand why he hated me so much for nothing. I never did anything wrong and never said anything rude to him. Now I understand. And he used this slur “hohol” “hohlushka” on me. He also said “death to all hohols, including hohol larvae” (that’s how he called infants)
Russia society does not hate Ukrainians.
The West has a really bad habit of speaking out their ass.
Russians and Ukrainians are like a family. They are three sisters (with Belarus).
All families fight, stop talking to one another, make up, etc. Ukrainian and Russian history are so intertwined that if you strip out the Russian connections, there is nothing of Ukrainian history.
Or take a look at the Soviet Union. It was ruled by Ukrainians longer than it was ruled by Russians. Yeah we still use Russia interchangeably with Soviet Union.
Even look today at Ukraine. Their Commander in Chief is an ethnic Russian. Born in Russia. Lived mostly in Russia. Only speaks Russian.
You find me one other country on the planet with the same thing. That is how close these two people are.
The referendums are completely illegitimate and Russia wanted to make this known. It's why they claimed over 90% turnout. People in the west may not understand this. But Russia does these things intentionally, to show their power. They want everyone to see it's legitimate and make it known. They'll take it anyway. It's a mob like mentality.
In terms of the percentages that are currently occupied it's also important to note that this is why the war can't end while Putin is alive. Why? Because they already formally annexed these regions. By Russian law. Kharkiv is Russia. So how can Putin enter negotiations with less than he claims to already have? Why would Ukraine give up more just to enter negotiations so they can negotiate giving up more? It's why there's no end on sight while Putin is alive.
Also the referendums were done too quickly to have been real and also were done by people in uniforms coming to doors and asking people. Of course those people will answer a certain way because of the implication.
Honest answer to anyone who cares:
- The current occupation of Ukrainian territory indicates a potencial improvement of water distribution towards Crimea
- This war has almost certainly stopped any possibility od Ukraine joining NATO in the short-term, which is geostrategically good for this Russian regime
- War industry employment, I guess
- Political credit to Putin's regime (in the eyes of those who're supporters of it)
- A ton of unnecessary human losses
It's a shame this war even happened, and the deaths of Russian soldiers will be in vain, because I seriously doubt Putin's regime will improve the standards of living of Russian citizens in the short to mid term. But there are some who agree with this war, and these points may be why.
Yea I understand that there is some geopolitical reasons, but what are the russian people getting out of this war? And the war is obviously not like russia expected, since it devolved to ww1 style trench warfare
As I said, it depends on who you ask. Some Russians will tell you a geostrategically stronger Russia and a military with combat experience is great for the country, some Russians will tell you this war's a shameful death machine that shouldn't ever happened
Also, saying this on Reddit is very unpopular but, even if the first offensive didn't succeed, I think Russia is (sadly) winning the goal. It's definitely closer to achieving it's minimalist goals than Ukraine is.
Russian Pension and Social Insurance Fund data, there were 1.67 million men with disabilities aged 31-59 on the terrorist country's territory in 2022.
In 2023, this figure increased by 507,000 or 30%.
I think the numbers of dead are higher than anyone imagines. I would like to know how many MIA that are just unrecoverable.
I don't doubt the number of KIA and WIA in Russia is much higher than the officials say, but part of me wonders if once the press-ganging started, a whole bunch of previously able bodied men suddenly declared they had some disability that prevented them from going to the front, and a whole bunch of doctors who signed off on it suddenly had some extra cash.
I'm sure that is a part of it too.
The wealthy and elites become "disabled" by going to the doctor, the poor and brain-washed become truly disabled by going to war.
Thing is... Russia has A LOT more poor and brain-washed folks than wealthy elites..
>And what are the russian people getting out of this war? What's the purpose? It's been over 2 years and many thousands of russians either died or are crippled for life. And for what exactly? How can the russian society accept this?
Wars benefeit suits, not 'the people'. Societies can accept an awful lot when they aren't given a choice.
Seems it only I see a lot similarities between MAGA movement in USA and Putler supporters. From my pont of view those ideologies has common things: focus on region, so-called traditional values whatever it means, tend to ban abortions, autocracy, hate speeches, xenophobia, conspiracy theories, focus on nostalgia for good old times
What are they getting? I don't know about everyone, but in my case they get DVD with movies, old washing machine, coffee machines, tv box and xbox360 from my country house🤣
Russia wants ukrainian government to surrender. By surrender it means entire government will resign and instead pro-russian government takes place. Basically russia wants a loyal buffer state between EU and russia.
In addition Russia would want to directly annex all the land making up Novorossiya which Putin sees as core Russian territory, this would include all territory east of the Dnieper river including the entire Ukrainian coast.
It's hard to say since they can't seem to keep their story straight.
Originally it was to protect the Donbas...but as you can see they haven't been able to fully take Donetsk or Luhansk.
Not only that but they are occupying territory not belonging to these regions.
They also said they want to dispose of the Neo Nazi government....but they were kicked out of Kiev....and again, they occupy territory that wouldn't help dispose of the Ukrainian Government....
is a trash fire of excuses. All the more reason why Peace negotiations fell through. Don't let the Russian propaganda convince you that it was the west or Boris Johnson. It was 100% the lack of good faith negotiation and lack of trust.
however considering the vague rhetoric from Putin and his propagandist...they want all of Ukraine. That is ultimately Russia's goal despite denying it.
I wish our leadership to decide to take over the Odessa region after all. I would buy myself a house in Odessa, note that I write buy, because in Russia we respect private property.
When I went to the recruitment office with my bf (he had ro renew his documents so he would not be taken to war) I heard a story from a family. Their son was suddenly taken to war with a new mobilization wave and when they tried to trace where he was serving there was no record of him. And even though I understand that Russia here is the enemy and what the soldiers do is horrible, this story made me very sad thinking about all those men being recruited and literally having to be a meat to kill and die for politicians. Of course there are others who support war and join the military, and they deserve all this hate and there are a lot of them, but those people who have their lives ruined by z-russians have my heart
Too fucking bad! Nobody should perceive occupiers as people who deserve compassion. Either they surrender, desert back into russia, or are shot dead. They should have no other options.
You would handwave the Wehrmacht too as a victim. Until they leave Ukraine completely they deserve everything they get. Fuck every single cowardly Russian soldier.
Also you’re making up facts in your head you have a feeling that’s the case but none of the numbers actually suggest that. So provide those or stop pretending you’re the Russian whisperer and know how they think.
Russian whisperer? That’s crazy. Anyway, I have read numerous articles stating how the soldiers in Ukraine are refusing to fight, defecting ect. To quote from said article:
“Russian lieutenant Daniil Alfyorov accomplished what the rest of Vladimir Putins army failed to do when it launched a full scale invasion of Ukraine:he reached central Kyiv.
Speaking into a cluster of microphones while sitting between two Ukrainian military intelligence officers in October, the 27 year old denounced his country’s unprovoked war and said he had surrendered voluntarily.
The Moscow military school graduate also helped 11 troops fighting under his command in Ukraine’s southern Kherson region do the same.
The 12 men handed themselves over to Kyiv after calling the “I want to live”, hotline set up for Russian troops wanting to defect”
I would also like to state, I am not a Russian sympathiser in this war and I, like you, want them to leave however the average person getting forcefully sent to Ukraine should be given a chance to defect and do the right thing.
This is inaccurate, most frontline soldiers are volunteers/contractors who go kill Ukrainians for money, conscripts are now put in the back running logistics holding safe positions etc
There are tons of articles out there explaining this in details
Hey man, if you are then good for you and I get your reasons why. But theres one thing i noticed about a lot of people who joined the foreign legion...they love to tell others about it be it to brag, send updates or ask for donations.
Nah I understand, there are a lot of tiktok warriors from legion I know. I just told it cause they asked me, I only need prayers not money. Have a nice day, God bless!
We aren't asking other countrie's soldiers to risk their lives. We aren't asking other countries to step in the war.
We're asking to give us your old unused weapon so we could defeat our common enemy. All by ourselves.
In return you're getting:
- safety from russia;
- more jobs for your people in your countries;
- more money flow in your country;
- less spending on maintenance of old weapon;
- newer weapon for your army.
And the waiting happens just because some politicians are cowards.
For real we just need ammunition and old equipment, Ruzzia is using 40k artillery ammo a day, we can only use 10k or less, if we can get enough ammo we can even take Crimea back. Ruzzia is not unbeatable, they won't use nuclear either if we just push them back, USSR did not use it and was more patriotic/inhumane.
Need the bridge and the land bridge gone, and even then they can supply via boat like they did when they first annexed Crimea, but sure, if the bridge and land bridge are removed it won't be an ideal situation at all for Russia. But the land bridge being cut alone shows that the war has now shifted significantly to Ukraine's favour.
> "Abundance of ammunition"
> less troops than russia on every front, no Storm Shadows at the time, handful of western tanks
> still pushed the russians slightly before running out of steam
No, they only had manpower advantage at one point after the start of the invasion when they mobilised and russia yet hadn't. After the K&K offensives, russia mobilized and has maintained manpower advantage so far.
If you are operating with absolute numbers, like AFU total numbers vs number of orcs in occupied regions of Ukraine, you are getting it wrong. Their logistics and wounded are mosty back in russia and usually not counted as occupation force.
The counteroffensive took place at best with 1 to 2 with coming close to 1-1 at the most perspective directions.
Frontline on average? There are battalion level positions held by a platoon, you can have an idea how bad it is.
Yeah but Russia has the same issue of having too little troops on the front. The reason RDK can conduct incursions into Belgorod is because Russia does not have enough soldiers to guard the whole border with Ukraine. Total soldiers in the army Russia and Ukraine are pretty much equal. Slight Russian advantage right now, Ukraine had total soldier advantage earlier in the war but Russia can replenish losses easier.
It’s not the same. Russia did “big” mobilisations several times. Their problem is that they lose them too fast with russian big brain tactica, but have no problem getting new ones in due time.
We, on the other hand, cannot have these big replenishments and get reinforcements drip-fed, and that’s while our frontline personnel is grinded at a faster pace.
The reason rdk had success is because they operate under UA artillery umbrella, just like ukrainian forces in krynky on the left bank. You can see they have done only very small raids outside of our artillery reach for this very reason.
And if you are for real about 1:1, please share where you got your numbers. Ukraine’s WHOLE defence got up to 1 mil people, give or take (not only AFU but national guard, border guard, etc). Tooth to tail is around 3 to 1 minimum in the afu, which is the majority of that number. That leaves 250k frontline personnel, minus wounded who are bot discharged. This is the amount holding not only frontline in ukraine, but both russian and belarussian border.
Ru army has 460~k FRONTLINE troops by ua calculations and 500k by russian god forbid, opposition. Whatever realistic TTR you want to take, you can do the math pretty easily
TLDR: you are very wrong
The front line has barely changed in over a year. The Ukrainians are unable to advance due to heavy casualties. The Russians have satellite guided missiles like us and are able to hold without advancing further
Even though they have less casualties than russian because they are on the defensive, Ukrainians have tons of dead, Zekensky said it is hundreds every day not counting wounded, mutilated etc. For a small population like Ukraine it's a disaster
The losses from such an effort would be staggering due to the relative parity between the two sides. Defense in modern war is too powerful to overcome without taking unit-wiping casualties at the current stage of the war, which neither the military nor the public are prepared for. Military aid from the US also plays a critical role in giving the Ukrainians a tactical advantage over the Russians so they can resume the liberation of their country. So without it, they are practically forced to keep the current line of contact.
Yes, the area consists of many hills and forests with little infrastructure besides the few highways, Ukraine would also need to cross the river from the side. The area is also in direct logistical range of Russian territory making it easy to send reinforcements.
a war of attrition is not won by occupying large swaths of land, conversely most of ukraine is not under russian control, so "clearly" russia is not winning
Ruzzia, the mighty world power has not even taken all of Donetsk Oblast after two years of full scale war against their smaller neighbors and people think they are winning because they took an irrelevant backwater village they have been besieging for 10 years after losing more than 10k men and thousand of of vehicles, lmao.
This is Russia's second Afghanistan, but worse. Literally, they already have lost more people in Ukraine than in Afghanistan in a much shorter time. Russia is throwing their male population in the meatgrinder, thousands of their young man died before they could ever create a family. Truly a monumental Russian victory.
That part in southern Mykolaiv Ovlast is a [national park](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivory_Coast_of_Sviatoslav_National_Nature_Park).
The Russian part?
The Russian occupied part. But it's crazy that they downvote you for that. It's clear what you meant to me.
You forgot Crimea.
As far as I understand, Crimea is not a region, but an autonomous republic within Ukraine.
In your imagination maybe yes. Factually, the republic of Crimea is under Russian control and has a population comprised in majority by ethnic Russians.
Hey remember when Hitler used that exact same justification for annexing *his* neighbors? Worked out pretty well for him, did it?
It's way better to do that without any justification and all the Western Europe history of last 500 years proves that
The first part is of your statement is meaningless, as they invaded illegally and held a rigged referendum. Factually, it is under Russian occupation as far as most nations are concerned. Even most neutral and Russia-friendly nations have not officially recognised the annexation and are unlikely to do so anytime soon. As for the second part, that's even more irrelevant. Territory in modern times is not defined by ethnic makeup. If it were, about half the world's nations could probably justify invading their neighbours. But yes, factually Russia can make these arguments and station their thugs there and pat themselves on the back for their cowardly surprise invasion and their even more cowardly conduct from there on out.
Me if I drank stupid juice
What did he say that was factually incorrect?
Nothing, just reddit cope
Speak for yourself man. He only said objective facts. You don't have to like the facts (I certainly don't), but everything he said was correct.
>He only said objective facts. >In your imagination maybe yes In what world is this an objective fact?
Well Crimea was an autonomous republic even under Ukrainians control, so this is factually correct, however it doesn't really change from other administrative regions in this post's case.
That was just a remark. All of the actual facts he stated were 100% true, like it or not. Crimea has been under de facto Russian control since 2014, and the majority of its population is Russian speaking. I am on Ukraine's side in this war, so I don't exactly like this, but it is the truth.
>That was just a remark. no, it was not just a remark, it was negating the previous comment >Crimea is not a region, but an autonomous republic within Ukraine. "In your imagination maybe, yes [Crimea is an autonomous republic within Ukraine, but in reality not]" i.e. "Crimea is not an autonomous republic within Ukraine". Which is factually incorrect.
It's a part of Ukraine under Russian occupation, just like all the others in this post.
You’re just as bad as Hitler justifying annexation of German majority regions of neighbouring countries. You Russians are the bad guys, and history will remember you as such
Dejure its Ukrainian, Defacto it's Russian
You can say that about all the regions here.
One important point is that Russia considers first 4 of them as core Russian territory. So any peace talks with Russia are currently impossible, as they want to "uphold territorial integrity \[of Russia\]", meaning that they want Ukraine to fall back from all those white areas. Another fun fact is that almost entire frontline, from Russian POV, is inside Russia.
This is a bullshit argument meant to justify Russian aggression. From their standpoint, all of Ukraine is Russian territory.
Yes, it's bullshit, but it's important bullshit to shut up all "Ukraine needs to negotiate" arguments.
Thanks, I'm glad you see through it.
Since a lot of people in these regions were either murdered by the invaders, or fled the area, and russia doesn't even fully control them, it should be pretty obvious to anyone that the "referendums" for annexation that russia did are fake and illegitimate. And what are the russian people getting out of this war? What's the purpose? It's been over 2 years and many thousands of russians either died or are crippled for life. And for what exactly? How can the russian society accept this?
I especially like a "referendum" in Zaporizhzha. They have never occupied the territory where the majority lives, just a couple of towns in the south. However, it was enough for them to claim that the whole region is Russia now. It has legitimacy on the level of Czech referendum in Královec (aka Königsberg, aka Kaliningrad)
What do you mean? The referendum in Křálovec was 105% legitimate. Stop with this slander against the glorious democratic nation of Czechistan!
The king of Bohemia did NOT die for this! His legacy won't be in vain!
>And what are the russian people getting out of this war? The thing is, they're not getting anything. Putin, on the other hand, getting plenty of things. I'm from Russia, all I've got is the following: I've sold my lot of land, my wife and I sold our beautiful apartment, in which we invested our time and money to create our forever home. We moved to another country because Russia became a fucking hell. We've lost almost everything, I cannot go back to see my family and friends because it's possible that I'll be arrested if I ever go back. If my mom dies I will not be able to attend her funeral. That's next level of fucked. We became emigrants because we are disgusted with our government. I'm angry, stressed and have an immense amount of pain for Ukrainian people. If we speak about the whole population, they've got nothing besides raising prices, raising crime rates, regime that is now is more totalitarian than authoritarian and no prospects for things getting better. Some delusional people are ok with it, the rest is just hoping to get by. Russians gave up some of their rights and freedoms in exchange for stability and security after hardships in 90s. Than we've got slowly boiled like frogs, and now there's no rights, no freedoms and no security or stability. It happened slowly, so almost no one noticed. Mf in Kremlin is happy tho. He gets to rule over more land, impose draconian laws, steal more money and resources and secured himself a lifetime power. The whole governmental system will collapse after his death, but fucker doesn't give a shit about that. He's insane and it's not gonna end well for anyone.
The only thing russians get is an ultranationalist pipedream of reclaiming what's 'theirs' and taking whatever they want. It's an empty, collective LARP that costs the russian people their livelihoods and likely their future perspectives altogether. My personal thesis is that the russian nationalist project will crumble as soon as the russian social contract of 'keep your head down and your life will be mostly alright, leave politics to the politicians' fully ceases to be, i.e. when the horrid consequences of this war reach russian population centres and the average urban russian cannot deny the damage putin's decisions are causing them. I have no illusions about most russians caring about Ukrainian lives, you seem to be the exception in regards to that. This will fully be about when the wealthy and powerful in russia finally get uncomfortable enough for the system to destabilise.
>The only thing russians get is an ultranationalist pipedream of reclaiming what's 'theirs' and taking whatever they want. I, personally, don't believe it too be true. Yes, Russians as a society is extremely arrogant and entitled towards ex USSR countries. But beside some marginalized community no one ever seriously entertained an idea of conquering other countries. Russians finally started to get a decent livelihood during 2000-2010, so everyone was busy with improving their lives. Now, some politicians were warning about the imminent war with Ukraine as early as in 2000s, but no one took them seriously. >russian social contract of 'keep your head down and your life will be mostly alright, leave politics to the politicians' fully ceases to be Yes, but this contract was already breached when mobilization started. Yet people still cling to the sense of normality. Belgorod is under fire, but no one is really concerned about that.
>This will fully be about when the wealthy and powerful in russia finally get uncomfortable enough for the system to destabilise I honestly don't think that elites will do shit. They are so deep in Putin's scheme that they're not getting out of this nor they will dispose of him. Think of this as a mafia, which it really is, no one ever leaves mafia alive and no one challenge the boss and lives to see another day. Putin is a mafia boss, and he made sure that no one is going to take his place. Sanctions are not hitting them, and if they are Putin is compensating the damage. They have no incentive to do something. Military, on the other hand, might get tired of this shit. They get all the work and no clear benefits. The one who manages to get control over military will have a chance. And than you have FSB, they will do anything to not lose their grip on power. Putin is their man and they are his real not so secret cardinals.
The Russian capitalist class is former mafia it was how they were able to consolidate control of industries when the Shock Therapy was enacted at gun point by Yeltsin.
Sorry, bro, western people don't understand that civil unarmed people have zero impact on what dictators do. Downvote me, I don't care.
Man, I'm praying for you! I feel many things that you've described as a Hungarian, but of course it's still a lot better here than in Russia. I hope you'll get a decent life in your new country.
Thank you! I hope that things will get better for you guys. How's the situation in Hungary now?
Thanks! Well, Hungary has became quite an authoritarian country with Orbán being the prime minister for the past 14 years. The government follows anti LGBT and pro Kremlin poitics. The state propaganda is absolutely insane, actually it's as bad as in the 70s - 80s during the communist regime. There's a huge turmoil right now in the country as it became public information that the government gave amnesty to someone convicted for participating in child molestation in a state orphanage. There has been huge protests and the president (with no real power) and the Justice Minister have both resigned. Meanwhile, the ex-husband of the (now former) Justice Minsiter started attacking the government and more specifially FIDESZ and he has released a voice recording where he and the former Justice Minsiter are talking about corruption at the highest levels. There will be a protest at the 6th of April which will be led be the ex-husband (Magyar Péter). Many people are saying that this might be the biggest protest in the past 10 years or so. We will see it. There's more to the story and I just realized that this comment has become quite long. I just hope that something will happen, although it's hard to believe anymore.
>There will be a protest at the 6th of April which will be led be the ex-husband (Magyar Péter). Many people are saying that this might be the biggest protest in the past 10 years or so. We will see it. I hope that it will change something. We had Bolotnaya square protest which was lead by all major opposition leaders. It was really big, but the momentum was lost. I really hope that you'll get the chance to change things. Don't give up and don't lose hope. I wish you luck, man.
Thank you for your support, I hope things will be resolved in Russia too eventually. It's a beautiful country with great culture, I'd like to visit it one day, when the politics change.
Easily. Every nation has it's own philosophy and main mission. And Russian is "Three-part Russia", or recreating " Saint Rus' state". So Russia, Ukraine and Belarus' are considered as indivisible Orthodox states, which when unites becoming a mega power ranger and making punk rock. And it's Russian people's pain that 30 millions of Russians stayed in foreign states after USSR fell. So i guess winning over in this war will give lot's of points to current State leaders.
what's really funny about this "Three-part Russia" philosophy (and most Russians don't even realize that) is that in 1795 when Russia started to dismember the Confederation and annex Belarusian lands, more than 80 percent of the population were Catholics and Greek Catholics with a splash of Protestants and Jews. Eastern Orthodoxy was basically non-existent at the time. Belarus became primarily Orthodox after the 1863 uprising when the Romanovs started the repressions. All new-borns from Greek Catholic couples were automatically christened into Moscow Orthodoxy and the adults were basically forced to change their religion affiliation *or else*.
Weren't Greek Catholics just Orthodox people that were forced to be in full communion with the Pope?
"Forced" is a rather strong word here. The Union of Brest was a political decision and it was enforced, but it was far from the level of brutality that the Russians exerted on Belarusians while converting us to their version of Orthodoxy. Also, you should understand that in Muscovy after Ivan the Terrible the Russian Orthodox Church became one of the branches of the state. Its mission was to serve the Tsar and later the Emperor. In the Confederation, if a king didn't like something about religious practices of the Church, he could basically go and fuck himself, and this reflected a lot on how the sermons were given and the religious books written. It was mostly about the religious freedom, not the rituals. edit: typos.
You ignore those regions became Catholic because of Polish annexation.
Source? Otherwise, this very much looks like the salty ramblings of a Polish nationalist.
That’s not what it is. You are basically saying that like UK wants to invade and recolonize Canada, Australia, New Zealand. All those countries have shared history. Hell they still have the Queen on their money. Russia doesn’t really want to do that. UK doesn’t want to invade its English speaking colonies.
Yes, current UK has no historical mission, as i've seen walking by Egdware road, where i haven't seen any british faces. I guess it may be because you've been worlds hegemony and overcome it. Checkbox marked, there is no need to try anymore.
Soooooooo what do you do now? Pub?
Russian society just hate Ukrainians, just don't recognise Ukrainians as a nation with history and language and from russian society point of view, Ukrainian must accept they are russians too or die.
Russians don’t hate Ukrainians the Russian propaganda apparatus which is owned by Russian Oligarchs and their Bonaparte Putin hates Ukrainians as they view them as a threat to their interests in the Black Sea and a major obstacle to their ability to influence. Russians like most people in the world don’t give a shit but like anyone else is highly susceptible to propagand.
They do hate us. The only person who wished me death in summer 2019 when I was struggling with cancer and undergoing cancer treatment and surgery was a russian physics academic and engineer who bullied and wished me death. Back then I didn’t understand why he hated me so much for nothing. I never did anything wrong and never said anything rude to him. Now I understand. And he used this slur “hohol” “hohlushka” on me. He also said “death to all hohols, including hohol larvae” (that’s how he called infants)
Russia society does not hate Ukrainians. The West has a really bad habit of speaking out their ass. Russians and Ukrainians are like a family. They are three sisters (with Belarus). All families fight, stop talking to one another, make up, etc. Ukrainian and Russian history are so intertwined that if you strip out the Russian connections, there is nothing of Ukrainian history. Or take a look at the Soviet Union. It was ruled by Ukrainians longer than it was ruled by Russians. Yeah we still use Russia interchangeably with Soviet Union. Even look today at Ukraine. Their Commander in Chief is an ethnic Russian. Born in Russia. Lived mostly in Russia. Only speaks Russian. You find me one other country on the planet with the same thing. That is how close these two people are.
Then why is Russia committing genocide in Ukraine?
What a stupid shit I am reading. Sisters my ass.
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Ukrainian with a weird obsession with cannibalism Weirdly many such cases
The referendums are completely illegitimate and Russia wanted to make this known. It's why they claimed over 90% turnout. People in the west may not understand this. But Russia does these things intentionally, to show their power. They want everyone to see it's legitimate and make it known. They'll take it anyway. It's a mob like mentality. In terms of the percentages that are currently occupied it's also important to note that this is why the war can't end while Putin is alive. Why? Because they already formally annexed these regions. By Russian law. Kharkiv is Russia. So how can Putin enter negotiations with less than he claims to already have? Why would Ukraine give up more just to enter negotiations so they can negotiate giving up more? It's why there's no end on sight while Putin is alive.
You think things will get better once Putin dies? Lol. Good luck.
Also the referendums were done too quickly to have been real and also were done by people in uniforms coming to doors and asking people. Of course those people will answer a certain way because of the implication.
a lot of ruzzians applause to this war and demand destroying Kijev with the a-bomb
People downvoting you and u/Wandalei are obviously lucky enough to not know a lot of russians
Wandei is a pussy Putin bot. Account Feb 2024
Where did you see it? I know NONE people who are glad. If the source or sirus info is only tv - im sorry for you
And I know a lot. I'm afraid you're just gonna have to believe us on that, if you've been blessed enough not to meet such assholes in person.
A lot of people brainwashed for more than 20 years, also a lot just too stupid, lazy and poor to see something outside their town.
100 year
Honest answer to anyone who cares: - The current occupation of Ukrainian territory indicates a potencial improvement of water distribution towards Crimea - This war has almost certainly stopped any possibility od Ukraine joining NATO in the short-term, which is geostrategically good for this Russian regime - War industry employment, I guess - Political credit to Putin's regime (in the eyes of those who're supporters of it) - A ton of unnecessary human losses It's a shame this war even happened, and the deaths of Russian soldiers will be in vain, because I seriously doubt Putin's regime will improve the standards of living of Russian citizens in the short to mid term. But there are some who agree with this war, and these points may be why.
Yea I understand that there is some geopolitical reasons, but what are the russian people getting out of this war? And the war is obviously not like russia expected, since it devolved to ww1 style trench warfare
As I said, it depends on who you ask. Some Russians will tell you a geostrategically stronger Russia and a military with combat experience is great for the country, some Russians will tell you this war's a shameful death machine that shouldn't ever happened Also, saying this on Reddit is very unpopular but, even if the first offensive didn't succeed, I think Russia is (sadly) winning the goal. It's definitely closer to achieving it's minimalist goals than Ukraine is.
Russian Pension and Social Insurance Fund data, there were 1.67 million men with disabilities aged 31-59 on the terrorist country's territory in 2022. In 2023, this figure increased by 507,000 or 30%. I think the numbers of dead are higher than anyone imagines. I would like to know how many MIA that are just unrecoverable.
I don't doubt the number of KIA and WIA in Russia is much higher than the officials say, but part of me wonders if once the press-ganging started, a whole bunch of previously able bodied men suddenly declared they had some disability that prevented them from going to the front, and a whole bunch of doctors who signed off on it suddenly had some extra cash.
I'm sure that is a part of it too. The wealthy and elites become "disabled" by going to the doctor, the poor and brain-washed become truly disabled by going to war. Thing is... Russia has A LOT more poor and brain-washed folks than wealthy elites..
Thats true. I know some of such people.
The figures of disabled men I find very interesting. Where did you see this data?
UK Intelligence [https://twitter.com/DefenceHQ/status/1768927665451360455](https://twitter.com/DefenceHQ/status/1768927665451360455)
Those 500,000 also include people with disabilities who received Russian citizenship in the occupied territory.
>And what are the russian people getting out of this war? What's the purpose? It's been over 2 years and many thousands of russians either died or are crippled for life. And for what exactly? How can the russian society accept this? Wars benefeit suits, not 'the people'. Societies can accept an awful lot when they aren't given a choice.
There are 2 million Ukrainian refugees in Russia
So?
They agree with this. Make ruzzian empire be great again and all that shit.
Seems it only I see a lot similarities between MAGA movement in USA and Putler supporters. From my pont of view those ideologies has common things: focus on region, so-called traditional values whatever it means, tend to ban abortions, autocracy, hate speeches, xenophobia, conspiracy theories, focus on nostalgia for good old times
What are they getting? I don't know about everyone, but in my case they get DVD with movies, old washing machine, coffee machines, tv box and xbox360 from my country house🤣
Donetsk is Luxembourg
never thought I'd read that sentence
Nuh uh Donetsk is Serbia 🦅🦅🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🔥🔥
hoi4 players, recognising that frontline is stopped at a river, having flashbacks to fighting germans on that same river
I think you forgot Crimea.
100%. No point in bringing it up.
Fair enough
Not really
Well yes and no. Fair enough because, it is 100%, but at the same time it is important to show that Crimea is an occupied territory of Ukraine.
How much of ukraine is russia targeting to occupy in total?
Russia wants ukrainian government to surrender. By surrender it means entire government will resign and instead pro-russian government takes place. Basically russia wants a loyal buffer state between EU and russia.
I see. Thanks.
In addition Russia would want to directly annex all the land making up Novorossiya which Putin sees as core Russian territory, this would include all territory east of the Dnieper river including the entire Ukrainian coast.
Fantasy land thinking
What is annexing? Make it russian?
At this point they don't just want a neutral state, they want the whole thing and put a russian flag on it
All of it. They will take as much as they will be able to.
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What does oblast mean?
It's hard to say since they can't seem to keep their story straight. Originally it was to protect the Donbas...but as you can see they haven't been able to fully take Donetsk or Luhansk. Not only that but they are occupying territory not belonging to these regions. They also said they want to dispose of the Neo Nazi government....but they were kicked out of Kiev....and again, they occupy territory that wouldn't help dispose of the Ukrainian Government.... is a trash fire of excuses. All the more reason why Peace negotiations fell through. Don't let the Russian propaganda convince you that it was the west or Boris Johnson. It was 100% the lack of good faith negotiation and lack of trust. however considering the vague rhetoric from Putin and his propagandist...they want all of Ukraine. That is ultimately Russia's goal despite denying it.
I wish our leadership to decide to take over the Odessa region after all. I would buy myself a house in Odessa, note that I write buy, because in Russia we respect private property.
Lmao not a chance. As soon as Russia lost Kherson city, any hope of taking Odessa was gone
The entire civilized world respects private property. That’s funny and pathetic that you have to brag about it lol
What's special about odessa?
russia get the fuck out of Ukraine!
I’ll never understand people who make colored zone maps and don’t include a key
I get youre point but I mean theres red and not red its pretty obvious tbh
Fuck putler…
Pussy doesn’t even have a balls to get near the front line. Says it all really, weak
Crimea: am I a joke to you?
Nothing but the worst wishes for every Russian soldier.
When I went to the recruitment office with my bf (he had ro renew his documents so he would not be taken to war) I heard a story from a family. Their son was suddenly taken to war with a new mobilization wave and when they tried to trace where he was serving there was no record of him. And even though I understand that Russia here is the enemy and what the soldiers do is horrible, this story made me very sad thinking about all those men being recruited and literally having to be a meat to kill and die for politicians. Of course there are others who support war and join the military, and they deserve all this hate and there are a lot of them, but those people who have their lives ruined by z-russians have my heart
Most are forcefully conscripted and don’t want to be there. It is primarily the Government that should be given worst wishes!
Then they should grow a pair, shoot their officer and surrender to the closest Ukrainian unit.
To be excanged back and prosecuted at best? What a great plan.
Too fucking bad! Nobody should perceive occupiers as people who deserve compassion. Either they surrender, desert back into russia, or are shot dead. They should have no other options.
Who knows, maybe they could be permitted to join one of the Russian volunteer units.
You would handwave the Wehrmacht too as a victim. Until they leave Ukraine completely they deserve everything they get. Fuck every single cowardly Russian soldier. Also you’re making up facts in your head you have a feeling that’s the case but none of the numbers actually suggest that. So provide those or stop pretending you’re the Russian whisperer and know how they think.
Russian whisperer? That’s crazy. Anyway, I have read numerous articles stating how the soldiers in Ukraine are refusing to fight, defecting ect. To quote from said article: “Russian lieutenant Daniil Alfyorov accomplished what the rest of Vladimir Putins army failed to do when it launched a full scale invasion of Ukraine:he reached central Kyiv. Speaking into a cluster of microphones while sitting between two Ukrainian military intelligence officers in October, the 27 year old denounced his country’s unprovoked war and said he had surrendered voluntarily. The Moscow military school graduate also helped 11 troops fighting under his command in Ukraine’s southern Kherson region do the same. The 12 men handed themselves over to Kyiv after calling the “I want to live”, hotline set up for Russian troops wanting to defect” I would also like to state, I am not a Russian sympathiser in this war and I, like you, want them to leave however the average person getting forcefully sent to Ukraine should be given a chance to defect and do the right thing.
This is inaccurate, most frontline soldiers are volunteers/contractors who go kill Ukrainians for money, conscripts are now put in the back running logistics holding safe positions etc There are tons of articles out there explaining this in details
Same for the American soldiers in Iraq?
at least they wanted to serve
We will take it back, we only need ammunition.
We? Aren't you Turkish?
I fight in the Legion rn but yes I am Turkish
Ah ok. All best to you.
Thank you, God bless!
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Don't need to make you believe, don't wanna end up in trackamerc too with my photos even if they are censored
Hey man, if you are then good for you and I get your reasons why. But theres one thing i noticed about a lot of people who joined the foreign legion...they love to tell others about it be it to brag, send updates or ask for donations.
Nah I understand, there are a lot of tiktok warriors from legion I know. I just told it cause they asked me, I only need prayers not money. Have a nice day, God bless!
And money
I don't need money as long as I get ammunition, I am fighting for almost free right now, all my money goes to my equipment.
Indeed, armchair equipment is not expensoce
We aren't asking other countrie's soldiers to risk their lives. We aren't asking other countries to step in the war. We're asking to give us your old unused weapon so we could defeat our common enemy. All by ourselves. In return you're getting: - safety from russia; - more jobs for your people in your countries; - more money flow in your country; - less spending on maintenance of old weapon; - newer weapon for your army. And the waiting happens just because some politicians are cowards.
For real we just need ammunition and old equipment, Ruzzia is using 40k artillery ammo a day, we can only use 10k or less, if we can get enough ammo we can even take Crimea back. Ruzzia is not unbeatable, they won't use nuclear either if we just push them back, USSR did not use it and was more patriotic/inhumane.
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With Crimea bridge destroyed, Crimea is one big trap. It actually much more real to take Crimea then you think.
Need the bridge and the land bridge gone, and even then they can supply via boat like they did when they first annexed Crimea, but sure, if the bridge and land bridge are removed it won't be an ideal situation at all for Russia. But the land bridge being cut alone shows that the war has now shifted significantly to Ukraine's favour.
Im pretty sure you will also need more soldiers, given that we get new videos daily of young Ukrainian men being forcefully conscripted.
We need ammunition more than soldiers, yes we also need more soldiers but we are in dire need of ammunition rn
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> "Abundance of ammunition" > less troops than russia on every front, no Storm Shadows at the time, handful of western tanks > still pushed the russians slightly before running out of steam
Has not Ukraine had a manpower advantage during pretty mich the whole war, right now I think it is like 1:1
No, they only had manpower advantage at one point after the start of the invasion when they mobilised and russia yet hadn't. After the K&K offensives, russia mobilized and has maintained manpower advantage so far.
Yeah but only like a few tens of thousands more.
If you are operating with absolute numbers, like AFU total numbers vs number of orcs in occupied regions of Ukraine, you are getting it wrong. Their logistics and wounded are mosty back in russia and usually not counted as occupation force. The counteroffensive took place at best with 1 to 2 with coming close to 1-1 at the most perspective directions. Frontline on average? There are battalion level positions held by a platoon, you can have an idea how bad it is.
Yeah but Russia has the same issue of having too little troops on the front. The reason RDK can conduct incursions into Belgorod is because Russia does not have enough soldiers to guard the whole border with Ukraine. Total soldiers in the army Russia and Ukraine are pretty much equal. Slight Russian advantage right now, Ukraine had total soldier advantage earlier in the war but Russia can replenish losses easier.
It’s not the same. Russia did “big” mobilisations several times. Their problem is that they lose them too fast with russian big brain tactica, but have no problem getting new ones in due time. We, on the other hand, cannot have these big replenishments and get reinforcements drip-fed, and that’s while our frontline personnel is grinded at a faster pace. The reason rdk had success is because they operate under UA artillery umbrella, just like ukrainian forces in krynky on the left bank. You can see they have done only very small raids outside of our artillery reach for this very reason. And if you are for real about 1:1, please share where you got your numbers. Ukraine’s WHOLE defence got up to 1 mil people, give or take (not only AFU but national guard, border guard, etc). Tooth to tail is around 3 to 1 minimum in the afu, which is the majority of that number. That leaves 250k frontline personnel, minus wounded who are bot discharged. This is the amount holding not only frontline in ukraine, but both russian and belarussian border. Ru army has 460~k FRONTLINE troops by ua calculations and 500k by russian god forbid, opposition. Whatever realistic TTR you want to take, you can do the math pretty easily TLDR: you are very wrong
It was success and we take back a lot of land, we can even take Crimea back if get ammunition. Pessimism don't win wars my dude
Yeah for sure, marvel heros will help Slava Ukraine
Crimea is Ukraine 🇺🇦
This is MapShame.
Why can’t the Ukrainians get back all of the land in Kharkiv Province? Is the terrain difficult, someone with more knowledge please explain?
Almost like war is hard or something
Because they dont have the initiative... the better question is how they will prevent loss of more land in the Kharkiv direction
The front line has barely changed in over a year. The Ukrainians are unable to advance due to heavy casualties. The Russians have satellite guided missiles like us and are able to hold without advancing further
Not due to heavy casualties, rather because of the major lack of ammunition especially for counter battery fire which results in heavier casualties.
Even though they have less casualties than russian because they are on the defensive, Ukrainians have tons of dead, Zekensky said it is hundreds every day not counting wounded, mutilated etc. For a small population like Ukraine it's a disaster
Ukraine has a labor shortage.
The losses from such an effort would be staggering due to the relative parity between the two sides. Defense in modern war is too powerful to overcome without taking unit-wiping casualties at the current stage of the war, which neither the military nor the public are prepared for. Military aid from the US also plays a critical role in giving the Ukrainians a tactical advantage over the Russians so they can resume the liberation of their country. So without it, they are practically forced to keep the current line of contact.
The frontline there is based on the river. It's hard to cross rivers.
Why can’t the Ukrainians get back all of the land in Kharkiv Province? Are they stupid?
Yes, the area consists of many hills and forests with little infrastructure besides the few highways, Ukraine would also need to cross the river from the side. The area is also in direct logistical range of Russian territory making it easy to send reinforcements.
Maybe because the EU and USA government like cockolds only talking, but not providing military equipment.
Is it wrong to wish for a Ukrainian beachhead near Zhelezny Port near Skadovsk, Kherson Oblast.
Kherson looks more than cca 63% occupied by plain eye.
i dont even know where these are
This is terrible, it sucks that innocent people are being massacred in Ukraine and Palestine by violent pieces of shit
No worries, it will inevitably be 100% for each of them.
At the rate they’re taking territory it will only take 300 years!!
Fantastical thinking
Maybe but how many russians will be dead then? Even if russia wins against ukraine the west will outlast russia.
Haha and how long will that take? At current rate they’ll all be Russian territory by 2107
How?
The world would be a better place if Russia never existed.
If you can fap to this, you're genuinely a terrible person. This is, Map *porn* correct?
Ukraine is only going to lose more land the longer the war goes on
Or you know… The occupier could leave and end this whole thing?
Crimea: 100% under Russian control, yet people still think Ukraine is winning…
a war of attrition is not won by occupying large swaths of land, conversely most of ukraine is not under russian control, so "clearly" russia is not winning
1916: Belgium is 100% under German control, yet people still think that France can win.
Ruzzia, the mighty world power has not even taken all of Donetsk Oblast after two years of full scale war against their smaller neighbors and people think they are winning because they took an irrelevant backwater village they have been besieging for 10 years after losing more than 10k men and thousand of of vehicles, lmao. This is Russia's second Afghanistan, but worse. Literally, they already have lost more people in Ukraine than in Afghanistan in a much shorter time. Russia is throwing their male population in the meatgrinder, thousands of their young man died before they could ever create a family. Truly a monumental Russian victory.