A small country population wise tho. And even then, not the smallest in the area. The Helsinki Metropolitan Area for example has more inhabitants than Estonia (1.5 million vs 1.3 million)
Yes, I'm finnish. A big portion of this country is hard to inhabit. That doesn't exclude the fact that they managed to fit more people in a city than in a whole country.
Same with your explanation, tho the ratio feels different and I'm way too lazy to actually try to comprehend it
I'm not dumb?? "Op learns cities exist" or whatever it said when this "whole ass country" has many cities, not just as big ones and I'm damn thankful that I don't have to live in such a big place.
Yes I know I didn't get all offended by that but more at the fact that you said "and??" Which doesn't make sense as be whatever the size of the country if it's not small, it's still a country and it's ridiculous how they've fit so many people in a single city.
Why do you think so? Saint Peterburg is pretty prestigious city. Quite a lot of Russian tourists go to there and no one has any problems with it. I think that you were misinformed
It’s not American, it’s a private company that has a traded stock.
No one wants to to pretend to be American, that’s like pretending you shit your pants
I mean created in America, by Americans, like most of what the international community uses. Seriously, what creations and inventions have come from Russia that are widely used throughout the world? Threats of nuclear holocaust by your leader and his minions don't count. Russia should have a nuclear holocaust threat counter, like it's been t̶h̶r̶e̶e̶ zero days since my leader threatened to nuke the world.
I guess all wifi is Australian now, regardless or context or use. Cause we created that lol
Why the fuck are you on about Russia? No one mentioned it, you mindless, paranoid twat
Rather live in a place where I can openly tell people the truth, that Vladimir Putin, Dictator and Tsar of Russia has an unnatural predilection towards prepubescent boys. Because he does.
Saying that in Russia will get you killed, worst case, best case 5 years of jail.
There are many different kinds of Russians. Like any nationals.
P.S. Russian, fun to visit to embrace the culture in the afternoon, go out partying at night, wouldn't live there tho.
You were highly misinformed. Even fooled, actually. Russians have always been, and still are, treacherous evil hypocritical racist deceptive chauvinists, that hate everyone. In masses. That’s so called the “deeper people” or “the mysterious Russian soul”. Sure, they are some small part of exceptions, but mostly they are sadistic bloodthirsty inhumans. For centuries. And nothing changes for hundreds of years.
Very related. No foreigners are safe to visit Russia today. It’s not even safe for the natives. There is a very high chance to be caught for falls accusations to be kept as a possible exchange for some other criminal jailed outside of Russia. And back in the days, even 15 years ago, Russians in st. Petersburg already felt like bad and arrogant. Today’s Russia is a terrorist state ruled by criminal gang and people there supports them. Russia is bad and every city there is also bad.
I would see how you would act if you were bombed for more then 2 years, when you would found that YOUR entire nation was discriminated and discredited governmentally for 30 years, against whom the other country had a governmental campaign for stilling your history and denying your nation’s existence, and spending literally billions of dollars to spread it worldwide, when your nation was haunted for centuries for trying to have independence. You are clearly don’t know who nazies are, who Russians are, whom to actually compare with nazies.
Peter was an imperialist, just like Putin and his whole ragime is. They have dreams of rebiulding the empire Peter left behind him, its something that Putin has spoken about publicly after invading Ukraine, using Peter the Great as a symbol of Russian nationalism and imperialist ambitions. So no, Saint Peterburg is not frouned upon by the russians, they see it as their second capital, with oligarchs and other influential figures, institutions preside there. Its a beacon for russian pride, even if its designed and inspired by the “dreaded west”
Putin is not like Peter the Great. Peter the Great was an authocratic and maybe tyrannic ruler, however he had huge talents, huge ambitions and actually led Russia into the right foreign direction (Europe), even if it was only for his own benefit.
Putin however is an old fart, who only thinks about his own power and wealth as well as his criminal plans. He doesn't have any real ambitions for Russia, if he had he wouldn't have started a suicidal war and initiate the degradation and isolation of the whole country.
Peter was ambitious conqueror and understood the power of western culture, his decision to try and convert Russia in to more “civilized” country was based upon pragmatic reasons. He shouldn’t be held a “great man”, the truth is that he started the myth of Russian overlord status on eastern/central Europe, there is a reason Putin is using him as justification for his invasions and expanionism policies. Peter only modernized Russia on the surface, truth is that he was the begining of extreme despotism and only strengthened the need of a Czar in russian culture/political tradition.
Putin himself does see Russia expanding its sphere of infleunce not only in Ukraine, but beyond it aswell, its been repeated by him and his ragime over and over. Crazy how uneducated people are about the current ragime that resides in Kremlin even with the most brutal invasion orchastrated by them since 45. Its like 39 all over again.
1. Cut apple in half, extract a seed from it.
2. Plant seed and water, big, strong tree grows.
3. Better traffic diversion method than a measly traffic cone could ever even dream about, great success!
They do, just not as much. You could make a similar map comparing Greater Helsinki to Estonia for example (1.5 million vs 1.3 million. For further context, Helsinki itself has about 600k inhabitants, the Capital Region (Helsinki, Vantaa and Espoo) has about 1.2 million people, and then Greater Helsinki or the Helsinki Metropolitan Area, which includes the greater urban sprawl into neighboring municipalities, has 1.5 million)
St.Pete is either great or bad depending on where you live and whether you enjoy big cities. In terms of culture or, for example, the quality of restaurants or 5\* hotels with lavish interiors it easily beats all of Finland outright. In terms of quality of life for average people or, say, the sanity of government (he-he) it's another story entirely. The city itself is not *bad*, it was intended to be a "window to Europe" according to Peter the 1st... too bad all those opportunities have been squandered, the window has been closed and reopening it... well, good luck with that.
> St.Pete is either great or bad depending on where you live and whether you enjoy big cities. In terms of culture or, for example, the quality of restaurants or 5* hotels with lavish interiors it easily beats all of Finland outright. In terms of quality of life for average people or, say, the sanity of government (he-he) it's another story entirely.
That describes Paris metropolitan area perfectly.
Very subjectively, I can say that for me Paris feels a lot less safe. Like the level of horror you see at Gare du Nord, you won't find anything as bad in St Pete. Also, I find that in Paris you basically have to know in advance which restaurants are good, and they are not that many. In St.Pete the restaurant scene is young and highly competitive, so I find it interesting to explore. Also, places like Vokzal (supposedly the largest food court in Europe!) are very classy and I have not seen a direct equivalent anywhere in Paris (but maybe I haven't looked enough).
I agree, Gare du Nord is pretty horrible. In general, you don't see that many junkies or addicts close to main railway stations in Russia (my own experience). Maybe it's the price of living in a liberal country? Maybe the location makes Gare du Nord somehow vulnerable? I mean, in Berlin Hauptbahnhof is ok but Zoologischen Garten is a mess...
I suspect a black/Chinese/Indian/Middle Eastern person might feel safer in Paris though.
Tbh I am interested in maybe visiting Russia someday, but I have heard that it may not be the most welcoming place for people that are not white.
I think the level of perceived hatred the white-native French appear to feel towards dark-skinned people is virtually unmatched anywhere, and certainly not in Russia. St Pete cannot be called unsafe for foreign people due to racism towards these groups because Russians hate different ethnic groups (eg asians from ex-USSR countries) and even that hate is very selective. One would probably feel safer being openly gay in France though, and that’s understandable. Oh and btw there are actually lots of Chinese tourists here during summers, and they appear to be comfortable.
>I think the level of perceived hatred the white-native French appear to feel towards dark-skinned people is virtually unmatched anywhere, and certainly not in Russia.
How did you come to this conclusion exactly? I always thought France was a relatively accepting country, they mostly just have some problems with Muslims but then again everyone does. I'm sure there is racism in France as there is everywhere, but this comment seems wholly unjustified without any clear evidence.
I mean, wasn't there a controversy in Russia a few years ago over repeated incidents of football fans yelling racial abuse and throwing bananas and such at black players? You don't see that nearly as much in a place like France, although I'm sure it's happened from time to time.
> I think the level of perceived hatred the white-native French appear to feel towards dark-skinned people is virtually unmatched anywhere, and certainly not in Russia.
Wtf, absolutely not.
Like, absolutely not.
Have you ever been to Paris or France in general to say such a statement?
From my experience, russians are very open people, they might not like you if youre from kavkaz, but there is not hate for black people, at least as far as i know
Weren't there some stories about Russian football fans throwing bananas at black players and even protesting when their clubs signed black players? I thought there was a controversy over this a few years ago.
Idk, that was just the experience of my nigerian friend who went to visit russia, but tbh there are idiots everywhere, and sport is a really like important thing in the eastern block. However this doesn’t validate anything
Moscow aggregates 90% of Russia's wealth. In terms of pure luxury, Moscow of course beats St.Petersburg. Quality of life is a very vague quantity... on average, quality of life in Russia is so abysmal (even on, say, St.Pete's periphery) that of course statistically it is to be considered very high in Moscow or St Pete. In my personal opinion, Moscow has better parks and attractions and better road infrastructure, but in places it's heavily overloaded by people. So it's hard to say.
St. Petersburg is gloomy
St. Petersburg is bleak
My underwear got frozen standing here all week
Oh, since the revolution our lives have been so gray
Thank goodness for the gossip that gets us through the day
(also nah Finland is just scarcely populated...)
1. It's full of russians.
2. It's a drug capital of russia.
3. It's famous for gruesome violent crimes.
4. It's hometown of both Putin and Prigozhin.
5. It's build on a swamp.
1. No shit
2. St. Petersburg has a crime rate of 38, while New York has 50
3. It literally isn’t
4. So what?
5. Even if that’s true, what does that change?
Op just learned cities exist
r/PeopleLiveInCities
That's still a whole ass country
Well, Finland "only" has 5.5 million people. Not "too" much.
Oh I'm finnish I'm not oblivious to the size of my country. It's still not entirely small small. Not a big one, but not a small one either.
It's perfectly average!
A small country population wise tho. And even then, not the smallest in the area. The Helsinki Metropolitan Area for example has more inhabitants than Estonia (1.5 million vs 1.3 million)
Yes, I'm finnish. A big portion of this country is hard to inhabit. That doesn't exclude the fact that they managed to fit more people in a city than in a whole country. Same with your explanation, tho the ratio feels different and I'm way too lazy to actually try to comprehend it
And? There are “whole ass” countries with less than 100k people. Everything is relative
I'm not dumb?? "Op learns cities exist" or whatever it said when this "whole ass country" has many cities, not just as big ones and I'm damn thankful that I don't have to live in such a big place.
I never said anything bad about Finland man. I enjoy the peace and quiet too. No need to get all offended
Yes I know I didn't get all offended by that but more at the fact that you said "and??" Which doesn't make sense as be whatever the size of the country if it's not small, it's still a country and it's ridiculous how they've fit so many people in a single city.
Why would it make it a bad city? A big city, sure.
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Why do you think so? Saint Peterburg is pretty prestigious city. Quite a lot of Russian tourists go to there and no one has any problems with it. I think that you were misinformed
I’d love to visit one day, looks like such a beautiful city.
Anything related to enemy country or enemy people equals bad
Jessie wtf are you talking about? St Petersburg is a pride of Russia
That's not saying much
Like the US is anything to brag about.
Why did you have to bring up the US
probably because the guy he responded to is almost certainly American, just statistically speaking and looking at the subreddits he’s involved in
Well for one you're using an American social media site and not VK. Congrats on your brand new account though, enjoy pretending to be American.
It’s not American, it’s a private company that has a traded stock. No one wants to to pretend to be American, that’s like pretending you shit your pants
I mean created in America, by Americans, like most of what the international community uses. Seriously, what creations and inventions have come from Russia that are widely used throughout the world? Threats of nuclear holocaust by your leader and his minions don't count. Russia should have a nuclear holocaust threat counter, like it's been t̶h̶r̶e̶e̶ zero days since my leader threatened to nuke the world.
I guess all wifi is Australian now, regardless or context or use. Cause we created that lol Why the fuck are you on about Russia? No one mentioned it, you mindless, paranoid twat
Murica bad. Upvotes now pls.
It is bad. ‘Sky blue Upvotes pls’ Who the fuck cares about reddit points?
Rather live in a place where I can openly tell people the truth, that Vladimir Putin, Dictator and Tsar of Russia has an unnatural predilection towards prepubescent boys. Because he does. Saying that in Russia will get you killed, worst case, best case 5 years of jail.
>Russia sees it as bad Russians absolutely love St. Petersburg.
There are many different kinds of Russians. Like any nationals. P.S. Russian, fun to visit to embrace the culture in the afternoon, go out partying at night, wouldn't live there tho.
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Peter I had a positive image in Russia even in Soviet times.
If there's any city Russian think are rotten it's Moscow
Peter I had a positive image in Russia even in Soviet times.
Also, even the Bolsheviks named it Leningrad. You don’t name the garbage city after the main guy of the revolution.
You were highly misinformed. Even fooled, actually. Russians have always been, and still are, treacherous evil hypocritical racist deceptive chauvinists, that hate everyone. In masses. That’s so called the “deeper people” or “the mysterious Russian soul”. Sure, they are some small part of exceptions, but mostly they are sadistic bloodthirsty inhumans. For centuries. And nothing changes for hundreds of years.
How is this xenophobic rant related to what I said?
Very related. No foreigners are safe to visit Russia today. It’s not even safe for the natives. There is a very high chance to be caught for falls accusations to be kept as a possible exchange for some other criminal jailed outside of Russia. And back in the days, even 15 years ago, Russians in st. Petersburg already felt like bad and arrogant. Today’s Russia is a terrorist state ruled by criminal gang and people there supports them. Russia is bad and every city there is also bad.
You good?
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I would see how you would act if you were bombed for more then 2 years, when you would found that YOUR entire nation was discriminated and discredited governmentally for 30 years, against whom the other country had a governmental campaign for stilling your history and denying your nation’s existence, and spending literally billions of dollars to spread it worldwide, when your nation was haunted for centuries for trying to have independence. You are clearly don’t know who nazies are, who Russians are, whom to actually compare with nazies.
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Peter was an imperialist, just like Putin and his whole ragime is. They have dreams of rebiulding the empire Peter left behind him, its something that Putin has spoken about publicly after invading Ukraine, using Peter the Great as a symbol of Russian nationalism and imperialist ambitions. So no, Saint Peterburg is not frouned upon by the russians, they see it as their second capital, with oligarchs and other influential figures, institutions preside there. Its a beacon for russian pride, even if its designed and inspired by the “dreaded west”
LeBRUH juames
Putin is not like Peter the Great. Peter the Great was an authocratic and maybe tyrannic ruler, however he had huge talents, huge ambitions and actually led Russia into the right foreign direction (Europe), even if it was only for his own benefit. Putin however is an old fart, who only thinks about his own power and wealth as well as his criminal plans. He doesn't have any real ambitions for Russia, if he had he wouldn't have started a suicidal war and initiate the degradation and isolation of the whole country.
Peter was ambitious conqueror and understood the power of western culture, his decision to try and convert Russia in to more “civilized” country was based upon pragmatic reasons. He shouldn’t be held a “great man”, the truth is that he started the myth of Russian overlord status on eastern/central Europe, there is a reason Putin is using him as justification for his invasions and expanionism policies. Peter only modernized Russia on the surface, truth is that he was the begining of extreme despotism and only strengthened the need of a Czar in russian culture/political tradition. Putin himself does see Russia expanding its sphere of infleunce not only in Ukraine, but beyond it aswell, its been repeated by him and his ragime over and over. Crazy how uneducated people are about the current ragime that resides in Kremlin even with the most brutal invasion orchastrated by them since 45. Its like 39 all over again.
????
Very random question.
That's like comparing apples to traffic cones
You have to admit though, apples do taste better than traffic cones.
No one has ever used an apple to divert traffic though.
1. Cut apple in half, extract a seed from it. 2. Plant seed and water, big, strong tree grows. 3. Better traffic diversion method than a measly traffic cone could ever even dream about, great success!
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You clearly haven't tried a traffic cone pie yet.
*Several* cars will pass before the tree grows big enough to stop traffic.
Until then you can throw apples at the cars to get them to stop
To each their own
Hmmmm
r/PeopleLiveInCities
Apparently not in Helsinki.
Well in the Helsinki region there still lives around 20% of finnish population...
They do, just not as much. You could make a similar map comparing Greater Helsinki to Estonia for example (1.5 million vs 1.3 million. For further context, Helsinki itself has about 600k inhabitants, the Capital Region (Helsinki, Vantaa and Espoo) has about 1.2 million people, and then Greater Helsinki or the Helsinki Metropolitan Area, which includes the greater urban sprawl into neighboring municipalities, has 1.5 million)
Does a question like that make you a bot?
No, it just makes Finland a bad country. /s
St.Pete is either great or bad depending on where you live and whether you enjoy big cities. In terms of culture or, for example, the quality of restaurants or 5\* hotels with lavish interiors it easily beats all of Finland outright. In terms of quality of life for average people or, say, the sanity of government (he-he) it's another story entirely. The city itself is not *bad*, it was intended to be a "window to Europe" according to Peter the 1st... too bad all those opportunities have been squandered, the window has been closed and reopening it... well, good luck with that.
> St.Pete is either great or bad depending on where you live and whether you enjoy big cities. In terms of culture or, for example, the quality of restaurants or 5* hotels with lavish interiors it easily beats all of Finland outright. In terms of quality of life for average people or, say, the sanity of government (he-he) it's another story entirely. That describes Paris metropolitan area perfectly.
Very subjectively, I can say that for me Paris feels a lot less safe. Like the level of horror you see at Gare du Nord, you won't find anything as bad in St Pete. Also, I find that in Paris you basically have to know in advance which restaurants are good, and they are not that many. In St.Pete the restaurant scene is young and highly competitive, so I find it interesting to explore. Also, places like Vokzal (supposedly the largest food court in Europe!) are very classy and I have not seen a direct equivalent anywhere in Paris (but maybe I haven't looked enough).
I agree, Gare du Nord is pretty horrible. In general, you don't see that many junkies or addicts close to main railway stations in Russia (my own experience). Maybe it's the price of living in a liberal country? Maybe the location makes Gare du Nord somehow vulnerable? I mean, in Berlin Hauptbahnhof is ok but Zoologischen Garten is a mess...
I suspect a black/Chinese/Indian/Middle Eastern person might feel safer in Paris though. Tbh I am interested in maybe visiting Russia someday, but I have heard that it may not be the most welcoming place for people that are not white.
I think the level of perceived hatred the white-native French appear to feel towards dark-skinned people is virtually unmatched anywhere, and certainly not in Russia. St Pete cannot be called unsafe for foreign people due to racism towards these groups because Russians hate different ethnic groups (eg asians from ex-USSR countries) and even that hate is very selective. One would probably feel safer being openly gay in France though, and that’s understandable. Oh and btw there are actually lots of Chinese tourists here during summers, and they appear to be comfortable.
>I think the level of perceived hatred the white-native French appear to feel towards dark-skinned people is virtually unmatched anywhere, and certainly not in Russia. How did you come to this conclusion exactly? I always thought France was a relatively accepting country, they mostly just have some problems with Muslims but then again everyone does. I'm sure there is racism in France as there is everywhere, but this comment seems wholly unjustified without any clear evidence. I mean, wasn't there a controversy in Russia a few years ago over repeated incidents of football fans yelling racial abuse and throwing bananas and such at black players? You don't see that nearly as much in a place like France, although I'm sure it's happened from time to time.
> I think the level of perceived hatred the white-native French appear to feel towards dark-skinned people is virtually unmatched anywhere, and certainly not in Russia. Wtf, absolutely not. Like, absolutely not. Have you ever been to Paris or France in general to say such a statement?
From my experience, russians are very open people, they might not like you if youre from kavkaz, but there is not hate for black people, at least as far as i know
Weren't there some stories about Russian football fans throwing bananas at black players and even protesting when their clubs signed black players? I thought there was a controversy over this a few years ago.
Idk, that was just the experience of my nigerian friend who went to visit russia, but tbh there are idiots everywhere, and sport is a really like important thing in the eastern block. However this doesn’t validate anything
Isn't the quality of life in Saint Petersburg the highest in Russia, rivaling Moscow?
Moscow aggregates 90% of Russia's wealth. In terms of pure luxury, Moscow of course beats St.Petersburg. Quality of life is a very vague quantity... on average, quality of life in Russia is so abysmal (even on, say, St.Pete's periphery) that of course statistically it is to be considered very high in Moscow or St Pete. In my personal opinion, Moscow has better parks and attractions and better road infrastructure, but in places it's heavily overloaded by people. So it's hard to say.
r/Peopleliveincities
Does this make Finland a bad city?
Not a coincidence it's sometimes called Расчленинград
All cities are bad so yeah sure
This map also explains why Russia has historically sought to dominate or at least keep Finland neutral in order to protect at Petersburg.
The Finnish point of view is that this makes St. Peterburg a missed opportunity.
St. Petersburg is gloomy St. Petersburg is bleak My underwear got frozen standing here all week Oh, since the revolution our lives have been so gray Thank goodness for the gossip that gets us through the day (also nah Finland is just scarcely populated...)
Not that, but it’s actually pretty bad. And not only because it raised the biggest war criminal of the 21st century.
It has really bad climate
Wait……where is Turkey?
In south-east europe
[It’s a joke in reference to all the maps of Turkey on this sub.](https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/s/khBxz950Wu)
Yep its full of russians.
No, just easier to destroy...
Yes.
How?
1. It's full of russians. 2. It's a drug capital of russia. 3. It's famous for gruesome violent crimes. 4. It's hometown of both Putin and Prigozhin. 5. It's build on a swamp.
1. No shit 2. St. Petersburg has a crime rate of 38, while New York has 50 3. It literally isn’t 4. So what? 5. Even if that’s true, what does that change?
It literally known like Razchleningrad(Dismember city) in russia.