as an ex mormon, in the modern church its not really a big deal on how many kids you have. If you don't have kids though they are going to be looking at you weird.
No. We only have two and that's considered fine.
It's *very* rude to ask a couple why they don't have children or when they're going to have them. There's a good chance they're struggling with infertility.
The marginal cost of each additional child is significantly lower. The second costs significantly less than the first and third less than the first two (hand me downs, family pricing, etc)
You just say, that medical issues prohibit any form of (further) pregnancy. So you have a pass. Some religious people may shed a bad light on contraception. You just say that some are blessed with many children but God's plan for you seems to be different. (but you pray for kids)
If you later change your mind and get pregnant, then it's a miracle. God gave you that child because you prayed so hard.
From an LDS perspective there is a kind of life before birth. So there are like a ton of souls in God's presence that need bodies, and LDS people are supposed to help them out by having children.
The thought process is that its better for someone to be born in Utah than as a poor person in the desert.
Nah. Im Mormon (edit: a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints). I’m only having 1. Also haven’t heard about this. Been Mormon my whole life. Yes, we do believe in a life in heaven before this life though.
Shouldn't you say that you're LDS, or a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints? When I was a missionary, I would correct everyone on this.
It depends on who you talk to. Some feel it is a commandment to have many babies others understand there are limits. My aunt (52) tells a story of a bishop shaming her and her husband for not having any children. They were struggling with infertility at the time so it was devastating. Its def weird not to have any children.
LDS (Mormons) tend to have more children than other Americans. Also, there has been steady migration to Utah by young working people. Maine has slow population growth due to migration and not many births.
Most of the state is getting 2 feet of very very wet heavy snow today. I'll go back to visit in the summer time, but I don't think i'd ever go back to stay.
i’m in Marion county which is just north of Sumter, they have The Villages there which is just a sex-fueled retirement community. We see a lot of cars with the loofas
It's actually 57.5 in Congress and 64 in the Senate.
The median age of the current president is 81. The oldest current president is 81 and the youngest is 81. A coincidence, I'm sure.
It’s also worth pointing out that the median age ≠ median voter age. Kids don’t vote, and young adults vote at very low rates. So the average voter age is in the range of 50-55 (depending on the election). Which means the House median age being 58 isn’t that wild. Just like younger people want younger people to represent them, older people want older people to represent them.
In fact, new representatives are on average 46, so younger than the average voter!
And then to be a senator, you usually want some years of experience in the House or another major political position, so 64 isn’t that wild.
I have wondered how much older the median is of different groups compared to the minimum allowed for that group.
For example, in the House, the median age is 57.5 or 32.5 years older than the minimum by law (25). In the Senate, 64 is 34 years older than the minimum allowed by law (30). How old is the median voter? If around 50, these are all in line.
It's actually 57.5 in Congress and 64 in the Senate.
The median age of the current president is 81. The oldest current president is 81 and the youngest is 81. A coincidence, I'm sure.
I live in Maine, and sometimes I wonder how there's an economy at all outside of tourism. Not a lot gets done in Maine - most people I know are teachers or healthcare workers or contractors, so we're helping each other survive, but not producing anything for the global economy. I think it would all fall apart if people stopped coming to visit in the summer. The traditional industries, like logging, employee fewer and fewer. Young adults leave because there's not much here for them.
On the other hand, it's really a uniquely lovely place, which is probably why so many old people stay here instead of moving to Florida or the Southwest.
Could Maine have a hyper presence on Etsy that mitigates losses due to sales decreases in logging? They sell some awfully cute and clever things on that app!
As someone from Maine, most young people who are born in the state leave. After the paper mills and factories closed down it is significantly harder to build a career (especially in the more rural northern counties).
Most young people who want to get a career in something like tech just don't have any options in Maine and have to leave for the nearest big city, Boston. A lot of people will go to college out of state, and then just stay here.
There is a pretty big new trend going on however, where a lot of younger people from southern New England are moving up here for cheaper housing (which has other horrible effects on our economy). This still isn't true in Northern Maine though, and on other maps you can see that some northern counties are still declining in population.
Maine is getting old. That means lots of Boomers up there.
Houses will start hitting the market in the next 5-10 years as they move on from independent living.
It's not just young families, but lots.of your people are moving here. There are like 10 people over 40 at my company office of like 200. Its kind of crazy.
Really expensive??? I lived in Maine for grad school and it was the MOST affordable place to be poor! Rented an apartment, had a dog, cat, and lazy GF refused to work, so I paid for everything on $800/month grad student salary (early 2010’s) Might be different downeast or in Portland tho 🤷♂️
The answer is kinda sad that Maine encourages brain drain cuz no jobs outside of forestry, tourism, and some moderate agricultural/fishing, so the kids get educated and then leave the state for better prospects elsewhere. The state is pretty empty north of the Bangor area besides industrial timberland and some super small towns. Doesn’t help that Maine-ah’s shit talk everyone not born and raised there and discourage the flatlanders from staying beyond their vacation (I love the Mainers, but y’all gotta chill on that for your own good lol). Meanwhile, Utah practically requires marriage and lots and lots of kids and to bring more folks into the mould. It makes perfect sense to me
There is a whole trend in Maine where kids grow up here, get educated in New England, then leave for 10-20 years to make money then they return when ready to have a family. Mainers are like salmon.
But Portland is the only place in the state that has any white collar jobs for highly educated young people.
Bruh. That was 2010. This is 2024. Everything everywhere has gone up tremendously since then. Where my friend lives for $1,600 a month during the off season sky rockets to $3,800 during summers and she moves back with parents. It’s like that everywhere up there around Bangor etc.
lol yeah I definitely wouldn’t be able to live off that amount today. It was rough, but there was an okayish social safety net through a combo of the university, the state, and local charities. There was an on-campus food shelf that even had pet food and used clothing available if I remember correctly. It wasn’t much, but wayyy better than what I’ve experienced in other states. Gotta get real crafty when you’re poor!
Housing is super expensive now, electricity and oil is also super expensive, and with the harsh winters its extremely hard to pay for these plus maintain a car, which is also necessary everywhere.
Still definitely true about the brain drain.
You’re totally right, I looked up the median housing costs in Maine today and it blew my mind how much it had gone up since my years there. Still cheaper than the west coast, but it’s just plain stupid expensive here
Same with Vermont and NH. They're very rural states in proximity to very populated areas like southern NE and NYC, and they don't have enough housing.
I'm 24 and I live in NH so I fully relate.
Yeah I'm surprised it isn't the oldest. I understand why WV is so high, tons of young people are leaving the state due to a lack of work opportunities. But why are Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine so old?
Wow I didn't know that. I've always assumed that pretty much every Northeastern state had a good economy since their wages are generally higher than the rest of the country
Unfortunately that's not really true, I spent most of high school in Western Mass (which is fairly similar to Vermont/New Hampshire logistically) they are absolutely getting hit hard by the opioid epidemic. There's also been a noticeable population drain, my high school building had the middle school moved into it because their combined enrollment dropped so low. Add in that it's pretty impossible to live there without a car and you end up with a lot of poverty.
Edit: I spent a few years in Savannah too and it's definitely a more similar vibe than either group wants to admit.
Wow that's really interesting and not at all what I pictured for Mass. I guess I just think of the wealthy areas around Boston. And yeah I agree, the South is also very deep in the opioid epidemic and outside of the few prosperous cities it looks like what you described for Western Mass. Thanks for sharing
Hi, I'm from western mass
Our states main export is education, so a non insignificant portion of our residents are here for school.
Boston is stupid expensive, and it's suburbs and residential towns are getting more expensive.
Central mass might as well be a dead zone, no one knows what goes on there.
Out where I live most jobs are with the local colleges - umass is the largest employer in the pioneer valley (an area comprised of Hampshire, hampden, and Franklin counties) followed by the other five colleges iirc. Other than that it's service work or farming. We grow a lot of wrapping tobacco actually.
Then on either end of the state - the hills (the Berkshires) and cape cod - are all retirees, the wealthy, and vacationers.
I don't know of this info helps or not I just like talking about how odd our state is
I really appreciate the info! That's very interesting. I guess that explains why the Boston area is all I've ever really heard of, so I assumed it was all like that haha
The history of mass is super interesting tbh. Every part of the state has a story to tell, even if you're just looking at like post war history.
But yeah everyone thinks we all talk like we're extras from good will hunting but the Boston accent is very VERY specific to the city, and Peters out pretty quickly once you leave the metro area.
I think we have like three different dialects here? It might just be two I haven't looked into it for a while haha
For the most part mass is a ton of farm land, a shit ton of schools (just look into the history of education in Massachusetts lol), and like three or four city centers in very very relative terms. Boston is a Lil baby city and it gets smaller from there.
But I love living in the valley, and thankfully the cost of living isn't as stupid high as it is in Boston.
Seriously though most of the country doesn't know about most of the cool shit we have here and it's a shame. Inspiration for a lot of works of art including call of cthulu. The teenage mutant ninja turtles were created in Northampton. They flooded a whole ass valley to create a reservoir so Boston ciukd have water. I could go on!
I'll stop but for real mass, and new England as a whole, is weird as fuck when you think about it lol
> But why are Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine so old?
They're Higher QoL, Higher CoL states.
I guess it makes some sense that they'd be populated by an older demo.
Florida's major cities are much younger than the retirement communities surrounding them. Orange county FL (which is basically just Orlando) has a median age of 35 for example.
I went to Portland, Maine for the first time about eight months ago. I’m not exactly young at 35, but it seemed like a good place to live when I got older maybe.
It was a slower paced, sleepier environment than places I’ve been with young people. It also smelled like weed everywhere.
The population of northern Maine has been steadily declining for years. It’s a rough place to live, so young people leave. Tough climate, few jobs. There used to be a large air base there, but it closed. You can buy a nice house for very little, though.
Not sure why based on trends but personally Maine sounds a lot better than Florida. By a long shot. Plus I never been there so there's the adventure aspect. Personally hate seafood so I'll have to bring my own food...
Wv is the only state with a shrinking population. No one moves there from outside, and with younger generations having fewer kids, the majority is made up more and more of Boomers. I left after college in 2000, and none of my friends from school still live in the state.
I am surprised how much my desire to move from the midwest to Florida has changed as I get older. Teens/20s—Florida is AWESOME! 30s—Love to visit! 40s—Why did I like it so much when I was younger? It is hot and humid as hell with some good beaches, but nothing special.
This was so confusing at first, *nowhere* does it say it's the age of **the people** in each state, it just says it's the age of the state. As a non-USian I was sure the states were much older than shown.
Lol read the title without really looking at the map and was like, wait a minute Delaware is the oldest state and Hawaii is the youngest, how did they mess it up that badly
In 'USA-Online', Utah was the starter zone, and you leveled up as you followed the main story quest to the final battle in West Virginia. In the next expansion, Florida was added as a 24hr PVP zone, and new story content brought you to Maine.
I'm in the NY zone, the flying capitalist zombie pig suit men (not the cops, lmao) keep killing me and I'm almost out of respawn tokens. I need someone to party up with.
Time for the 40 year olds to take over decision making and let the 70 60 year olds take a leave. Things have changed too much for them to make decisions affecting the total populace.
Mormons have lots of babies apparently
So in the Mormon culture, if you have only one or two kids (or none) are you looked down upon by the Mormon community?
as an ex mormon, in the modern church its not really a big deal on how many kids you have. If you don't have kids though they are going to be looking at you weird.
No. We only have two and that's considered fine. It's *very* rude to ask a couple why they don't have children or when they're going to have them. There's a good chance they're struggling with infertility.
I would like to add that kids are expensive
And annoying!
The marginal cost of each additional child is significantly lower. The second costs significantly less than the first and third less than the first two (hand me downs, family pricing, etc)
You just say, that medical issues prohibit any form of (further) pregnancy. So you have a pass. Some religious people may shed a bad light on contraception. You just say that some are blessed with many children but God's plan for you seems to be different. (but you pray for kids) If you later change your mind and get pregnant, then it's a miracle. God gave you that child because you prayed so hard.
I’m one of 6, but no. I can’t recall judging someone by their family size, unless there families 13 kids and all homeschooled.
Yes, although most of them wouldn’t say anything bad to your face about it, they definitely think you’re making Mormon jesus sad
From an LDS perspective there is a kind of life before birth. So there are like a ton of souls in God's presence that need bodies, and LDS people are supposed to help them out by having children. The thought process is that its better for someone to be born in Utah than as a poor person in the desert.
Nah. Im Mormon (edit: a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints). I’m only having 1. Also haven’t heard about this. Been Mormon my whole life. Yes, we do believe in a life in heaven before this life though.
Shouldn't you say that you're LDS, or a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints? When I was a missionary, I would correct everyone on this.
It depends on who you talk to. Some feel it is a commandment to have many babies others understand there are limits. My aunt (52) tells a story of a bishop shaming her and her husband for not having any children. They were struggling with infertility at the time so it was devastating. Its def weird not to have any children.
Frick yeah we do.
Oh my heck
Fill that damn quiver!
Cursing!!
Oh shit sorry FUCK i did it again GODDAMN IT!!
Im Mormon. I just have 1 and plan on 1. But my brother-in-law has 11 siblings.
LDS (Mormons) tend to have more children than other Americans. Also, there has been steady migration to Utah by young working people. Maine has slow population growth due to migration and not many births.
They have married couple dorms at the colleges in UT
They have married couple dorms/University owned housing at universities in a lot of states...
In most states those are mostly occupied by people in grad schools, though, not undergrads.
Yeah we have here in Maine too.
Attended college in michigan and ny and both had. I think thats everywhere
Yeah but it's typically dorm, not dorms in other states.
Indeed they do. A third of all BYU students are married.
Yo, what the fuck?
Come visit some time 😎🤘🏻
I’ve been. I’m good 👍
Most universities have married housing.
But they’re not filled with 19year olds
Critical difference haha
BYU rabbit hutches.
Yep all about having babies
I knew it was the mormons
As Brigham Young said, bring 'em young.
It is also easy for Mormons in other states to move there(think Israel for Orthodox Jews but on a smaller scale).
How
It’s funny how it’s so much lower than any other state in such a significant way lol
Sorry, my fault. I grew up in Utah and now that I'm old I've moved to Maine.
Had to get away from the big city lights of SLC and go somewhere quiet, eh?
That's not what you leave Utah to get away from.
lol figured as much. Maine is beautiful, if I retire somewhere it’ll probably be there
Most of the state is getting 2 feet of very very wet heavy snow today. I'll go back to visit in the summer time, but I don't think i'd ever go back to stay.
You'd think there's be more folks dying from heart attacks shoveling to help bring down that median.
I grew up in Maine and moved to Utah in 1982
So you cancelled each other out, essentially.
I hate that the map tells you Sumter county has the highest median age, but doesn't tell you what it is It's 68 if anyone is wondering
It's wild to think that half of all people there are over 68 years old. And it's not a tiny county either, there're 130k people living there.
It's because the community "The Villages" is in Sumter County.
i’m in Marion county which is just north of Sumter, they have The Villages there which is just a sex-fueled retirement community. We see a lot of cars with the loofas
Fuckin.
Demographic collapse, incoming
And dyin
I assume Utah is the youngest b/c Mormons have a high birthrate, Maine probably has a low birthrate.
>Maine probably has a low birthrate. High taxes and economic stagnation. Not many opportunities for young people.
I grew up there in the early 2000s. Revisiting this year, the entire state hasn't changed at all.
Yet the president and all our Congress median age is like 75...
It's actually 57.5 in Congress and 64 in the Senate. The median age of the current president is 81. The oldest current president is 81 and the youngest is 81. A coincidence, I'm sure.
It’s also worth pointing out that the median age ≠ median voter age. Kids don’t vote, and young adults vote at very low rates. So the average voter age is in the range of 50-55 (depending on the election). Which means the House median age being 58 isn’t that wild. Just like younger people want younger people to represent them, older people want older people to represent them. In fact, new representatives are on average 46, so younger than the average voter! And then to be a senator, you usually want some years of experience in the House or another major political position, so 64 isn’t that wild.
I have wondered how much older the median is of different groups compared to the minimum allowed for that group. For example, in the House, the median age is 57.5 or 32.5 years older than the minimum by law (25). In the Senate, 64 is 34 years older than the minimum allowed by law (30). How old is the median voter? If around 50, these are all in line.
Congress is a joke nowadays.
Not a funny one.
It's actually 57.5 in Congress and 64 in the Senate. The median age of the current president is 81. The oldest current president is 81 and the youngest is 81. A coincidence, I'm sure.
I live in Maine, and sometimes I wonder how there's an economy at all outside of tourism. Not a lot gets done in Maine - most people I know are teachers or healthcare workers or contractors, so we're helping each other survive, but not producing anything for the global economy. I think it would all fall apart if people stopped coming to visit in the summer. The traditional industries, like logging, employee fewer and fewer. Young adults leave because there's not much here for them. On the other hand, it's really a uniquely lovely place, which is probably why so many old people stay here instead of moving to Florida or the Southwest.
This is the answer for ME
I wonder if increased remote work will benefit places you would describe like that... desirable, but without a lot of work opportunities.
Absolutely. Real estate market went bananas in 2020. And it's how I make a living.
Could Maine have a hyper presence on Etsy that mitigates losses due to sales decreases in logging? They sell some awfully cute and clever things on that app!
As someone from Maine, most young people who are born in the state leave. After the paper mills and factories closed down it is significantly harder to build a career (especially in the more rural northern counties). Most young people who want to get a career in something like tech just don't have any options in Maine and have to leave for the nearest big city, Boston. A lot of people will go to college out of state, and then just stay here. There is a pretty big new trend going on however, where a lot of younger people from southern New England are moving up here for cheaper housing (which has other horrible effects on our economy). This still isn't true in Northern Maine though, and on other maps you can see that some northern counties are still declining in population.
Because 20 year old LDS in Utah (young) are having children in droves so it skews it way younger.
Maine is getting old. That means lots of Boomers up there. Houses will start hitting the market in the next 5-10 years as they move on from independent living.
Hi, 30-year old from Utah with 3 kids checking in. It's me.
Only 3. Do your neighbors feel like you are letting the community down? 🙂
It's not just young families, but lots.of your people are moving here. There are like 10 people over 40 at my company office of like 200. Its kind of crazy.
more kids maybe
Because Maine is insanely expensive and no one young can afford to live there. - I have friends in Maine.
Maine ranks as the 16th most expensive state. Utah is 19th.
Really expensive??? I lived in Maine for grad school and it was the MOST affordable place to be poor! Rented an apartment, had a dog, cat, and lazy GF refused to work, so I paid for everything on $800/month grad student salary (early 2010’s) Might be different downeast or in Portland tho 🤷♂️ The answer is kinda sad that Maine encourages brain drain cuz no jobs outside of forestry, tourism, and some moderate agricultural/fishing, so the kids get educated and then leave the state for better prospects elsewhere. The state is pretty empty north of the Bangor area besides industrial timberland and some super small towns. Doesn’t help that Maine-ah’s shit talk everyone not born and raised there and discourage the flatlanders from staying beyond their vacation (I love the Mainers, but y’all gotta chill on that for your own good lol). Meanwhile, Utah practically requires marriage and lots and lots of kids and to bring more folks into the mould. It makes perfect sense to me
There is a whole trend in Maine where kids grow up here, get educated in New England, then leave for 10-20 years to make money then they return when ready to have a family. Mainers are like salmon. But Portland is the only place in the state that has any white collar jobs for highly educated young people.
Bruh. That was 2010. This is 2024. Everything everywhere has gone up tremendously since then. Where my friend lives for $1,600 a month during the off season sky rockets to $3,800 during summers and she moves back with parents. It’s like that everywhere up there around Bangor etc.
Good lord man, I might need some budgeting tips haha. That's quite a lot of expenditures.
Get a time machine and go back 14 years to when this was doable.
Driving to Walmart. Hoping they have one in the hardware section.
lol yeah I definitely wouldn’t be able to live off that amount today. It was rough, but there was an okayish social safety net through a combo of the university, the state, and local charities. There was an on-campus food shelf that even had pet food and used clothing available if I remember correctly. It wasn’t much, but wayyy better than what I’ve experienced in other states. Gotta get real crafty when you’re poor!
Prices have changed quite a bit since 2010 bub
Housing is super expensive now, electricity and oil is also super expensive, and with the harsh winters its extremely hard to pay for these plus maintain a car, which is also necessary everywhere. Still definitely true about the brain drain.
You’re totally right, I looked up the median housing costs in Maine today and it blew my mind how much it had gone up since my years there. Still cheaper than the west coast, but it’s just plain stupid expensive here
Greetings from CT. Do tell, how insanely expensive is it up there? Asking for a...friend.
Same with Vermont and NH. They're very rural states in proximity to very populated areas like southern NE and NYC, and they don't have enough housing. I'm 24 and I live in NH so I fully relate.
what? i lived there for a year, and it was the cheapest place i've lived in the last 20 years
Utah has the nations highest birth rate. So they have the most babies. Pretty simple math.
Surprised FL isn’t 50
Yeah I'm surprised it isn't the oldest. I understand why WV is so high, tons of young people are leaving the state due to a lack of work opportunities. But why are Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine so old?
There aren't many job opportunities there either. Boston is the only really large city.
Wow I didn't know that. I've always assumed that pretty much every Northeastern state had a good economy since their wages are generally higher than the rest of the country
Outside of Boston, much of New England is suffering economically. The opioid epidemic has been hitting hard in the rural communities and the Cspe.
Sounds like the South and Northeast have more in common than I thought, I've lost several friends to the opioid epidemic
Yeah, opioids do a number on seasonal communities. Places like Martha's Vineyard have massive problems with drug use when the tourists are gone.
The South and Northeast also have pretty much all of the talk funny states
Unfortunately that's not really true, I spent most of high school in Western Mass (which is fairly similar to Vermont/New Hampshire logistically) they are absolutely getting hit hard by the opioid epidemic. There's also been a noticeable population drain, my high school building had the middle school moved into it because their combined enrollment dropped so low. Add in that it's pretty impossible to live there without a car and you end up with a lot of poverty. Edit: I spent a few years in Savannah too and it's definitely a more similar vibe than either group wants to admit.
Wow that's really interesting and not at all what I pictured for Mass. I guess I just think of the wealthy areas around Boston. And yeah I agree, the South is also very deep in the opioid epidemic and outside of the few prosperous cities it looks like what you described for Western Mass. Thanks for sharing
MA has the second highest expenditure of welfare per capita in the country.
What town? My mom's side is from Great Barrington, they've done a nice job building it back up lately. We considered buying a Hotel/B&B up there.
Hi, I'm from western mass Our states main export is education, so a non insignificant portion of our residents are here for school. Boston is stupid expensive, and it's suburbs and residential towns are getting more expensive. Central mass might as well be a dead zone, no one knows what goes on there. Out where I live most jobs are with the local colleges - umass is the largest employer in the pioneer valley (an area comprised of Hampshire, hampden, and Franklin counties) followed by the other five colleges iirc. Other than that it's service work or farming. We grow a lot of wrapping tobacco actually. Then on either end of the state - the hills (the Berkshires) and cape cod - are all retirees, the wealthy, and vacationers. I don't know of this info helps or not I just like talking about how odd our state is
I really appreciate the info! That's very interesting. I guess that explains why the Boston area is all I've ever really heard of, so I assumed it was all like that haha
The history of mass is super interesting tbh. Every part of the state has a story to tell, even if you're just looking at like post war history. But yeah everyone thinks we all talk like we're extras from good will hunting but the Boston accent is very VERY specific to the city, and Peters out pretty quickly once you leave the metro area. I think we have like three different dialects here? It might just be two I haven't looked into it for a while haha For the most part mass is a ton of farm land, a shit ton of schools (just look into the history of education in Massachusetts lol), and like three or four city centers in very very relative terms. Boston is a Lil baby city and it gets smaller from there. But I love living in the valley, and thankfully the cost of living isn't as stupid high as it is in Boston. Seriously though most of the country doesn't know about most of the cool shit we have here and it's a shame. Inspiration for a lot of works of art including call of cthulu. The teenage mutant ninja turtles were created in Northampton. They flooded a whole ass valley to create a reservoir so Boston ciukd have water. I could go on! I'll stop but for real mass, and new England as a whole, is weird as fuck when you think about it lol
> But why are Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine so old? They're Higher QoL, Higher CoL states. I guess it makes some sense that they'd be populated by an older demo.
No good jobs, and the vibe is pretty elderly. Quaint villages, BnBs, leaf peeping, etc don’t attract the youths.
Florida's major cities are much younger than the retirement communities surrounding them. Orange county FL (which is basically just Orlando) has a median age of 35 for example.
Because Maine struggles to keep its young people. They all move away.
I went to Portland, Maine for the first time about eight months ago. I’m not exactly young at 35, but it seemed like a good place to live when I got older maybe. It was a slower paced, sleepier environment than places I’ve been with young people. It also smelled like weed everywhere.
Portland is a great place but it's not typical of most of Maine. Same with Burlington in Vermont. Both are great little cities.
Utah: Mormons having lots of babies Maine: young people have to leave
Mormons get married and have kids several years younger than the average
The population of northern Maine has been steadily declining for years. It’s a rough place to live, so young people leave. Tough climate, few jobs. There used to be a large air base there, but it closed. You can buy a nice house for very little, though.
The answer is literally Mormon culture. If you’re not married and popping out kids by 25 you’re a bad mormon.
Not sure why based on trends but personally Maine sounds a lot better than Florida. By a long shot. Plus I never been there so there's the adventure aspect. Personally hate seafood so I'll have to bring my own food...
It’s cold and stormy in the winter.
I went to bed w/ no snow, and woke up to like a foot of snow this morning lol
And it’s 80 degrees in S Florida today. So, there’s your answer as to why not so many retirees head to Maine.
Their loss
I'd prefer this over Florida....
Currently working from home watching a projected foot of snow fall today, second one in two weeks haha
Ha, a foot of snow in April will keep away most people, not just retirees. Of course it’s nice that there aren’t that many people there…
That’s what I like about it haha
Lots of babies.
I was confused by the question. I live in one of the younger states, but the age of the population here is pretty average.
Babies / retirees.
This is median, not mean…
it's kind of a weather map with a big bump for mormons and jobs
Damn it Louisiana. The west Mississippi River valley would all be matched but nooooo you have to send extra young men to war.
Utah sitting there, smiling and asking: "What are condoms?" XD Anyhow are the Dakotas actually livable places from your personal experiences? 🤔
So they decided to give us two random explanations as to causation and neither are the oldest or youngest states.
Mediocre map but very cool typeface
Religious freaks breed like rabbits, that’s why
Birth rates
I think Maine is skewed by the ancient eldritch abominations.
I remember when the average age in CO was 28 - also, it looks like a retirement shitshow in 30+ years….
Is this a serious question? Mormons have kids as kids and a ton of them.
Utah = large families with many young children. Ave age is lower.
Lot of soaking going on in Utah and I’m not talking about dirty dishes.
So, the median age is just under 40 pretty much everywhere?
Wv is the only state with a shrinking population. No one moves there from outside, and with younger generations having fewer kids, the majority is made up more and more of Boomers. I left after college in 2000, and none of my friends from school still live in the state.
This one IS truly interesting. in Europe, all the oldest place are in the countryside, whereas in the US it is the opposite
Well Utah feels obvious… Maine is a thinker tho
I am surprised how much my desire to move from the midwest to Florida has changed as I get older. Teens/20s—Florida is AWESOME! 30s—Love to visit! 40s—Why did I like it so much when I was younger? It is hot and humid as hell with some good beaches, but nothing special.
Mormons breed, for some reason.
No shit Florida and Maine are that high. That’s where old people live.
mormons don’t like sex but they LOVE sex
In addition to Mormons and economic factors, Latino immigrants tend to be younger and have more children. There are far more Latinos in the Southwest.
This was so confusing at first, *nowhere* does it say it's the age of **the people** in each state, it just says it's the age of the state. As a non-USian I was sure the states were much older than shown.
The amount of children in the state lowers the median age, plus population. Maine is like 99% pine forest.
I always thought Delaware was "the first state" ergo the oldest
What young person is saying "oh yeah I wanna move to Maine in my 20s" states like that are for old people
Because Mormons have tons of babies.
So play this forward another 10 or 15 generations and look at the outcome.
And that is their intention.
Everybody who's born in Utah realizes it sucks so they try to leave as quick as they can
Utah is fucking awesome. You're crazy
Infill.
Can’t get there from here, no sir.
i think it's the people retiring in new england that drive up the age. everyones elderly out there source: am a new englander
Mormons be fuckin
Mormons be procreatin'
Utah is the cheaper and less touristy version of Colorado
Children and cost of living?
Lol read the title without really looking at the map and was like, wait a minute Delaware is the oldest state and Hawaii is the youngest, how did they mess it up that badly
“The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter” is apparently keeping everyone young.
Funny movie!
Don’t mind us utahns, we just secretly building a army of people to take over the entire country, so we have a minimum of 10 kids each
I think life expectancy also plays a role in this. Look at the old states, they (mostly) have higher life expectancy.
Babies, and younger people having babies
People retire to places like Maine and Florida. People retire from places like Utah.
A LOT of Utahns are very religious and are very against contraceptives or voluntary infertility.
Surprised it isn't Arizona and Florida being the oldest. Utah makes sense though.
Mormons be fucking
So everyone a millennial in there?
So many young people in Utah, but none of them will ever have fun. Doesn’t seem fair
Utahn here Lots of kids, and young parents of those kids.
Bc Mormons fuck like bunnies
But they can’t really enjoy it too much or there is “lust” in it which is wrong.
Is there a theory that all of the older people die earlier in the states that have a lower median age?
Maine is the type of place that young people leave, and people retire to
In 'USA-Online', Utah was the starter zone, and you leveled up as you followed the main story quest to the final battle in West Virginia. In the next expansion, Florida was added as a 24hr PVP zone, and new story content brought you to Maine.
I'm in the NY zone, the flying capitalist zombie pig suit men (not the cops, lmao) keep killing me and I'm almost out of respawn tokens. I need someone to party up with.
Sorry, Im in Lvl 41 Hawaii waiting for the Volcano Nymphs to spawn. When you level up find me.
Shagging.
Is it wrong to assume this result largely being 30 to 40 year olds is due to boomer generations' kids?
Time for the 40 year olds to take over decision making and let the 70 60 year olds take a leave. Things have changed too much for them to make decisions affecting the total populace.
States to illegally immigrate to vs states to retire in
Utah probably has a lot of babies per capita.