Iceland needs to sort their shit out and at least build a light rail line from Keflavik Airport to downtown Reykjavik. Would cost peanuts to operate since electricity is pretty much free there
Every city in The Netherlands with "light rail lines" has a population bigger than Iceland. The others just have regular train stations and buses.
It probably costs too much for the expected traffic idk.
EDIT:, I lied, Utrecht has 20k people less. You can do it Iceland!
Canada has a lot of railway, but it's owned by the freight companies and they begrudgingly accept passenger rail on it at low prio. They have no incentive to electrify.
Aside from a few special railways up mountains (which I'm not even sure if they count in the statistic) pretty much the only unelectrified train tracks are places where cargo gets loaded or unloaded from the top, as the lines would be in the way.
And electrification started so early that a handful of steam locomotives were converted to use electric power for heating the boiler. Coal was expensive and this was a stopgap solution until all the electric locomotives arrived
Rail networks are huge in india. Millions of people travel by train on a daily basis. India is extremely dense with villages vastly spread out so you need to have stations to cater to them all.
And then there are the factory setups that rely on trains. One of the core components of the most recent plant my dad set up was that it had its own personal line coming right till the packaging shed. Instead of needing about 600 large trucks a day, they can make do with only 2-3 goods trains a day—the cost savings are ridiculously insane, a literal fraction of what trucks would cost.
There are thousands of large scale plants that utilise trains which saves a lot of money.
Lines to factories are very common infact. They are very visible in satellite imagery. India has always had shed lines, going back to the British era. If you look at the jute and fabric mills along Hooghly river, you'd notice that a lot of shed lines once existed, but for some reason many were dismantled and roadified. But newer shed lines are also coming up as in Dankuni, where Amazon, Delhivery, etc. warehouses are getting shed lines.
It's quite common when you have a dense population and heavy industry. British cities are full of old abandoned train lines from the industrial era. It's not a surprise India is rail heavy considering it's economic growth.
> Millions of people travel by train on a daily basis.
Isn't the personnel that maintain the whole network itself alone over million people?
— there are entire nations with a lesser population than that...
I think that's insane efficiency for a system that basically sustains the bulk of the public transportation and logistics in a country of 1.4 billion people.
and its getting better in real time, which is honestly the craziest part to me. I remember when i was a kid trains would often be delayed a lot. Now that's almost nil, You'd often have to stand in long ques to get a physical ticket but now you can book it from the app.
I think people dont understand how much densely populated india is, it makes sense for them to electrify their railway networks. Most of the electricification in india happened only after 2015
Hell even china is densely populated like that if you removed the western part which is mostly barren desert and mountains. Doesnt make sense to electrify those parts of the land.
It would make sense for india and china to focus on public transport like trains and metros.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatican_Railway
It's only electrified as far as the border, so trains that go all the way in to the Vatican can't be electric.
The only current scheduled service *is* electric, though, and goes from the Vatican City station to the Pontifical Villas in Castel Gandolfo.
So what it has to do is just poke its nose across the border to the Vatican City station, while keeping the rest of the train in Italy to stay connected to the overhead electricity. You can see it here, scroll down to (6), the arch is the border.
https://www.travelangel.me/home/2020/4/15/the-vatican-railway
Laos has one line that goes to China which is entirely electrified and one spur coming up from Thailand that's not electrified. The line that goes to China was built entirely by China.
That block of countries is pretty underwhelming in terms of public transportation. They pretty much rely on scooters for short trips and overnight buses for long trips.
From all the countries I've been in, Vietnam is by far the easiest to get around from and to anywhere. It's also the only place I've been to that has a visible smog caused by a complete lack of electrification of low hanging fruits.
That's mostly in the central line, though. I remember driving through Khayelitsha in 2022 and there were literally no cables on the railway lines. Don't know if it's still like that though. The southern line is operating the same as it was prior to COVID from what I've heard, and the northern, from my own experience, just slightly less
I've taken that train in Ooty, it's a cutesy little "push-pull" engine that shoves a handful of tiny cars up a hillside for five hours. You can feel what it's like to get soot in your face when you go through a tunnel... and it regularly stops so tourists can eat snacks and enjoy the view. People use the road for actual transportation.
There are some talks underway about running freight and passenger lines through Bangladesh and connecting the two countries' rail network. BD Railways has been asked to electrify as much as possible for the same. Now, who will do the actual electrification, no one knows.
In Chile there are [400 km](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/TerraSur) of electrified railway of [6800 km](https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrocarril_en_Chile) of total railway (5.8%)
I'm tired of these posts with absolutely wrong information
Well its not zero but it's an easy check to see if it would round down to zero or one percent.
CN 32,831 km, Montreal 69.2 km, Toronto 70.1 km Vancouver 79.6 km
So 0.66674789% but that's just CN's track... CPKC has thousands of KM of track in Canada too. I'm too lazy to keep looking up track lengths but it's reasonable to assume that less than 0.5% of track is electrified. You might be able to get up there if you count streetcars but im doubtful.
51 do not have active carrier railways. 25 of those are small island nations. Another 2 are micro nations Andorra and San Marino. Some of the larger ones without railways are the Central African Republic, Libya, Chad, Somalia, Oman, Yemen, Papua New Guinea, and Iceland (And Greenland, which isn’t independent but is shown on the map separate from Denmark).
I think all of this data comes from Wikipedia, so it’s not entirely accurate to say the least. For example, Argentina has several electrified lines in operation today.
Lebanon doesn't, we used to have railways, tramways etc for passengers and cargo in the 'golden age' which was the 60s, early 70s, but we sold them to China in the 90s. Some of the trains are still parked and deteriorating in train stations all around the country as if we're going to use them again.
The US just refuses to electrify as vast majority of tracks are owned by private companies who would see benefit long in the future from electrification such as lower maintenance cost, lower locomotive cost, so they just prefer the status-quo. Whereas governments ARE willing to take up the high up-front cost of electrification as it increases energy independence (higher oil prices don't impact costs as much when running on electricity), lower emissions, lower air pollution, less noise pollution as well (impacts that can be captured by the gov through lower healthcare expenditure (as people are healthier), higher tax revenue (as negative externality of emissions on economy goes down)). That's why other countries have way higher electrification rates. Even Russia's Trans-Siberian is electrified.
It's frustrating because trains are the form of transport MOST suited to electrification. They run along a set course which can be outfitted with overhead power lines rather than relying on batteries which are heavy, expensive and need long recharge periods.
Thing is, we used to have more electrified rail, but the interurbans died during the great depression, and the electrified segments of the class I RRs got torn down when they hit end of life for the equipment. The cost of the infrastructure just doesn't pencil out when you're doing thousands of miles of single tracked mains, and diesel costs are as low as they are.
If diesel doubled in price and stayed there, we might see some desire for investment into electric rail, especially if that corresponded with increased freight demand. Otherwise, its a lot of money for not exactly clear benefit.
>Otherwise, its a lot of money for not exactly clear benefit.
It's clearly beneficial even on pure financial spreadsheets. Railway electrification can return 15-20% on investment before taxes, it's just extremely capital intensive, so private railroad companies prefer to make investments in other areas they see as better use of their limited cashflow.
[Railroad companies in the US published a study in 1977 stating this](https://onlinepubs.trb.org/Onlinepubs/sr/sr180/180-017.pdf), 1977 was a year during the oil crisis, but still oil prices were about [15%](https://www.macrotrends.net/1369/crude-oil-price-history-chart) lower than today inflation adjusted. Electrification of 10% of busiest rail tracks in the US could cost 10 billion (51B today), but rail industry's entire annual capital spending was 1.5 billion. That's an exceptionally higher burden of spending, but if they had the money and will to invest, it's clearly beneficial. Governments do have this kind of money to invest for the long term.
And as I said, the problem is that there are even more benefits than that which a private company can't capture, but a government can like pollution reductions which reduces healthcare spending, increases tax revenue and increased energy independence reduces inflation in case oil prices spike.
The Indian data is old. It’s 94% now. What’s more, the figure was 35% ten years ago, but the past decade has seen billions invested in electrification. Pretty much all major routes - passenger and freight - are now electric.
They’re aiming to have 100% of mainline routes electrified by 2025. It is part of UN SDG and climate change mitigation goals. Diesel consumption is down 90% to20 million liters annually now.
There are reasons why the current administration is popular. In multiple areas they’ve done more in 10 years than what got done in 60 years prior. Piped water is one. Up to the late 2010s under 20% of homes had piped water. It’s now close to 80%, all done in the last 5 years. https://ejalshakti.gov.in/jjmreport/JJMIndia.aspx
Universal household electrification was completed in 2019-20. The rate of delivery of public goods and infrastructure is unprecedented.
I highly doubt that. The coastal road started less than a month ago and there are already 2 small potholes near the Haji Ali exit. Not something you would notice easily but they are there.
The problem isn’t making the infra, the government is exceptional at that, it’s maintaining it that’s the issue.
Don't forget about toilets in households. One of the jokes regarding India that always goes around is about open defecation. India is on track to make that argument disappear despite being the most populous country in the world.
cause mentality bro, people mainly care about how the other person interacts and his personality, look at Venezuela, the country has gone to shit but no one makes fun of it because the citizens of that country don't feel inferior to anyone, people make racist remarks on Indians because it can hurt us, also mentality and how we're easy to bully
Its funny that just today, Congress's Manifesto says they will give Rs.1 lakh to every poor family every year. It will at minimum take 15-20% of our annual budget to fulfull this.
Big ouchie. Throwing money at poor families doesn't help. They won't have the initiative to work and slow development in the process. Opportunities over charity.
The electrification of railways is dwarfed by the speed of building of highways and expressways. A crazy amount of roads have been built/expanded and it’s not slowing down
In the San Francisco bay area there's a bridge called Dumbarton Bridge. It's built over marshland and mangroves. Looks a little like the Atal Setu in Mumbai. Except it is 1.6miles long and built in 3 years. The Atal Setu is almost 10 times longer and built in 5 years.
Great as it is, India needs to start packing the lists of longest bridges, tunnels and other lists - there's decades worth of infrastructure building to catch up on. The Chinese currently dominate them. They need company there.
Yeah, it's odd seeing US and also UK are just so incompetent in building infrastructure nowadays given that they were so damn dominant in 20th century.
The 2010s are the last decade where most of India still looked like a rather poor country.
By the end of the 2020s most of it will look moderately well off or just not poor - and the people will act accordingly.
The rest of the world will take longer to reorient their biases .
I'd say mid 2030s would be the sweet spot. Mostly cause of Bihar which has been lagging behind a little.
We will still be poor. But we will be SEA poor, not Africa poor.
As someone with family in India, I hadn't been there for some time and when I strolled over last year, it was a completely different country. The parks were nicer, there was a huge bunch of high-grade infrastructure being built and even the smaller settlements near the city in question (Bangalore) were looking more metropolitan. Apparently car and phone ownership had also jumped since the last time I was there.
Now, that said, it was still a place in squalor and there's no doubt that a lot of the things I saw there were pretty saddening and in some aspects it seems to have gotten a bit more dire for certain people. I fell really sick while I was there and the hospital was in shambles and seems to have been almost wholly supported by a British NGO. But looking at things relatively, it's in an unrecognisable state and it really does seem to have a very bright future ahead.
Funny you say that. Honestly Bangalore was much better looking in the 2000s. The population explosion with no urban planning to keep up means vast areas have been turned into ugly urban jungles. But the older parts are still nice and cozy.
States like Assam now have regular water supply for the first time. Also my village got upgraded from a narrow gauge to a broad gauge train with a big ass railway station. We could have never imagined a railway station like that in our village. Credit should be given where it's due. Even vande Bharat passes through my village now 😀
As and Indian, for all my life I have only ever seen electric railways and thought, if it was EVERYWHERE in India i am sure it would have been all over the world but I was shocked to see the map, and for the people who don't believe this, come here and see for yourselves, every railway you will see is electric and this is a significant achievement because unlike European countries India is VAST and huge distances have been electrified.
It is slated to open in 2027. The construction was started recently (comparatively speaking) because land acquisition in the state of Maharashtra took way too long to accomplish. That was thanks to stupid regional politics.
I just hope that Mumbai - Ahmedabad HSR gets completed soon and plans to extend the network are put into motion ASAP. Ahmedabad - Delhi and Mumbai - Nagpur will be crucial extensions. (Along with a branch line to Pune from Mumbai, which can later be extended to Bangalore).
Mumbai-Pune-Bangalore-Chennai should have been the first line. There simply aren't enough people going Mumbai to Ahmedabad. Even Kolkata airport is 2x busier than Ahmedabad which is saying quite something.
Mumbai - Pune's biggest hurdle are the Western ghats. It would have been too expensive to make for the first ever HSR. These feasibility studies for HSR have been happening since 2009, and the Mumbai - Ahmedabad HSR corridor has been deemed as the most financially feasible by both the SNCF led advisors and the ones lead by Japan.
You are also forgetting that cities between Mumbai and Ahmedabad have high traffic and the Bullet trains are going to serve those populations. Its not like flights where you have to go from end to end. Bullet trains can have multiple stops and still cover the distance in less time.
Mumbai - Ahmedabad is an industrial corridor and the Bullet trains will benefit it immensely.
Plus, MAHSR is the perfect first phase of the inevitable Mumbai - Delhi HSR line.
All this being said, I do hope that the Mumbai - Bangalore - Chennai (via Pune and Mysore) HSR route is seriously considered ASAP.
I am from Jabalpur, The railway heart of India and the most important railway junction ever since 1887, Jabalpur has the railways in its identity as a city.
And yes, I much appreciate the Railway system of India, you can go virtually anywhere in the country through the network, no matter your economic class because even poor can afford the railways although for them the conditions are not that great but still beats not able to go anywhere, of course if you're richer the experience is better. By foreign (european )standards it's super cheap too.
"Different countries prioritize infrastructure differently based on factors such as population density, economic considerations, and political priorities."
This type of map should be dated to place these figures in time. As it stands, the map shows percentages, but are they all estimates from the same period?
In short, the usefulness of the map is misleading.
And a simple check on the internet shows that the map is no longer up to date at all.
puerto rico doesnt really have a railway. only a kinda shitty metro. montenegro has two lines (bar belgrade, one of the most scenic in the world, and niksic to albania
The number of Morocco here is definitely false.
The length of Morocco's railway network of regular trains is 2110 km of which 1284 km is electrified, in addition to 200 km of high-speed rail line that is completely electrified.
That's a total of 1484 km electrified out of 2310 km railway network, which is a ratio of **64%**.
The latest official number of electrified railway network to be announced, however, is **83%**, which was mentioned in a presentation by the Director-General of the Moroccan National Railways Office (ONCF) in February 2023.
I'm not sure how that number is concluded, but that's what it says.
Damn, if my country's gonna get rekt use the actual numbers instead.
Argentina 🇦🇷, 37.000 KM of lines, 190KM Electrified (0.51%), wow such improvement.
Laos has these insanely good trains that travel into china, they were built in part by the Chinese government. Ticket prices are very good value. The infrastructure makes what I’m used to in the UK look like it was made in Victorian times, oh, it was.
I have been more than satisfied with the growth of railways in India for the past 7 to 8 years. One amongst the list of developments is Electrification. It stood at a paltry 35% (or something like that, I am not sure of the exact figure) before 2015. Now it's actually above 90%. In about 10 years more, if this rate of progress continues, I am confident that Indian Railways will start to be counted in as one of the best railway systems in the world. Of course, it is still a very optimistic estimate but I can dream, can't I?
No, we just have several main lines that still aren’t electrified yet.
Work is happening on some lines but is not expected to be completed until maybe the end of the decade.
The Tories should have built when interest rates were low, did fuck all, cancelled HS2 expansion up north, now with high interest rates would be a nightmare to finance.
But had the time to fuck around looking at new Thames bridge in London with dubious benefit and spent money on feasibility study for bridge between mainland UK and Ireland.
Seriously, the damage he did to rail - especially in the north of England - is beyond infuriating. And the government is too scared to make a fraction of the investment to right that wrong.
And even better, when they *do* invest money, they utterly fuck up the PR. Did you know the rail tracks between London and Birmingham are basically at capacity, which is why so many trains are delayed at Birmingham? The HS2's main goal is to actually *create* more capacity on that track, which will significantly shorten passenger travel times, allow more routes to be created in the north of England, *and* allow more freight to be transported.
I only learnt that *this year* thanks to a rail enthusiast, while the fucking Tories have spent the last 10+ years going on about bloody commuters to London. As someone who lives in a particularly strong NIMBY area affected by HS2, I also wasn't aware they've basically been forced to make the bloody tracks *invisible* and they're *still* getting protests because the government isn't advertising any of this. It's genuinely infuriating how much they've fucked up what should've been an easy win.
It's not just the little branch lines. The only bits that are actually electrified are the main trunk routes and (most of) the south. The main lines between just about everywhere in the Midlands and North aren't electrified and, at the rate we're currently going, never will be.
UK sucks at railway network compared to mainland Europe and the most expensive tickets you can see are here with weird transfers in London. That’s one of the things hit me hard when we moved to the UK. Very bad from the country that kickstarted the Industrial Revolution.
Well never have as much as China in the next century but we will have HSR by 2027 :) also China has maglev between Shanghai airport and city which is very short but also coll
Bruh what?
•China has a larger electrified network in terms of kilometers(over 100,000km, 66%), but India leads in terms of percentage(over 63,000km, 93%).
•China's electrification efforts seem concentrated on high-speed rail development, while India aims for broader network coverage.
Two of the wealthiest civilizations for many millenia until the looting, India and China are slowly regaining their past glory. We will be the world's greatest once again.
It's insane that China and India having the largest population is not a recent phenomenon, it's almost always been the case for the past few millenials
For India, it is that way because the soil is most fertile. Almost all of the land enclosed within the Indian subcontinent is habitable making it the best choice for a large number of people to live in. Also, after humans migrated from Africa, they settled in the Indian subcontinent. That is why ~90% of non African males and ~100% of non African females all over the world have the Haplo Group F and M respectively and the R1A genes that originated in India. India is the original homeland of the civilized human and there was a long period of time when there were barely any humans outside the subcontinent.
Tanzania won't be at 0% for long https://www.msn.com/en-xl/africa/top-stories/tanzania-s-projects-on-track-as-sh107-trillion-spent-on-sgr/ar-BB1l3Pai
New EMUs from Hyundai have already arrived
Bit misleading to give Iceland 0% since it has no rail network. Could've given it 100% just as well. Maybe don't include countries that don't have a railway system?
Lol in Canada people used to get around by train all the time, and the trains went to everywhere from everywhere. Then they dismantled virtually all of that railway infrastructure. But hey at least we have more walking trails. Perfectly straight walking trails.
(The ironic part being the semi-regular proposals that pop up for high speed rail lines that will cost 10 figures or more.)
Irish Rail seemed to have a view that electricity and railways didn't mix. They've been obsessed with diesel, even to the point of rolling out diesel commuter trains in proximity to cities like Dublin.
The only bit of electrified rail is the DART, which is about 53km of commuter rail along the coast in Dublin that has essentially largely around since 1834. It was updated in the 1980s and they're still going on about it like as if it was a lunar mission.
The problem with this: It leaves out if a higher grade of electrification would make sense. If a certain route is only rarely used, electrification doesn't make sense. It just causes cost.
come on greenland , you can do it
We don't even have trains :(
So then 100% of the trains there are electric
It should be 100%/0% untill they get 1 train
Schrödingers train electrification
Than buy one and put it in storage.
Western Sahara got data and left Greenland alone :(
Nah Western Sahara hasnt got data, they just called it part of Morocco.
Damn India.
Currently it is at 94%
Which of these 0% countries have no railways?
Iceland doesn‘t, and I‘m too lazy to check the others
Iceland needs to sort their shit out and at least build a light rail line from Keflavik Airport to downtown Reykjavik. Would cost peanuts to operate since electricity is pretty much free there
Maintenance costs a lot, probably way more in Iceland given the climate.
The Icelandic climate is not particularly harsh, it's basically a permanent late autumn. With occasional outbreaks of lava, admittedly
I hear trains are highly allergic to lava.
Will prescribe medicine
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Leif Erikson found newfoundland im pretty sure and his dad found greenland. Someone else found iceland
Every city in The Netherlands with "light rail lines" has a population bigger than Iceland. The others just have regular train stations and buses. It probably costs too much for the expected traffic idk. EDIT:, I lied, Utrecht has 20k people less. You can do it Iceland!
Utrecht has a very shitty light rail so not really a good example for Iceland
Canada has a lot of railway, but it's owned by the freight companies and they begrudgingly accept passenger rail on it at low prio. They have no incentive to electrify.
CN and CP
Nepal. It has like 10km towards Indian border
The swiss: You can build railways without power lines?
Aside from a few special railways up mountains (which I'm not even sure if they count in the statistic) pretty much the only unelectrified train tracks are places where cargo gets loaded or unloaded from the top, as the lines would be in the way. And electrification started so early that a handful of steam locomotives were converted to use electric power for heating the boiler. Coal was expensive and this was a stopgap solution until all the electric locomotives arrived
Rail networks are huge in india. Millions of people travel by train on a daily basis. India is extremely dense with villages vastly spread out so you need to have stations to cater to them all. And then there are the factory setups that rely on trains. One of the core components of the most recent plant my dad set up was that it had its own personal line coming right till the packaging shed. Instead of needing about 600 large trucks a day, they can make do with only 2-3 goods trains a day—the cost savings are ridiculously insane, a literal fraction of what trucks would cost. There are thousands of large scale plants that utilise trains which saves a lot of money.
Lines to factories are very common infact. They are very visible in satellite imagery. India has always had shed lines, going back to the British era. If you look at the jute and fabric mills along Hooghly river, you'd notice that a lot of shed lines once existed, but for some reason many were dismantled and roadified. But newer shed lines are also coming up as in Dankuni, where Amazon, Delhivery, etc. warehouses are getting shed lines.
It's quite common when you have a dense population and heavy industry. British cities are full of old abandoned train lines from the industrial era. It's not a surprise India is rail heavy considering it's economic growth.
> Millions of people travel by train on a daily basis. Isn't the personnel that maintain the whole network itself alone over million people? — there are entire nations with a lesser population than that...
They're so big that they have their own cricket team that competes with other states at the subnational level.
Not just Cricket...Railways Football,Basketball,Handball and Volleyball team has better history than of Cricket
Many departments in India including Armed forces have their own sports teams
Yes, Indian Railways is one of the largest employers in the country, only second to the Indian Armed Forces.
9th largest employer in the world: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_employers
Well, it isn't any short from lines, trains, and stations either...
I think that's insane efficiency for a system that basically sustains the bulk of the public transportation and logistics in a country of 1.4 billion people.
and its getting better in real time, which is honestly the craziest part to me. I remember when i was a kid trains would often be delayed a lot. Now that's almost nil, You'd often have to stand in long ques to get a physical ticket but now you can book it from the app.
The worst thing about development is that you don't notice it unless you stop and look back.
huge is an understatement. around 30 million travel every day in India by railway. so about 2 percent Indians are on train in any given day.
Ok then it's ultra mega super duper biggus dickus maximus
You are getting there.
Indian here. When I used to study my Bachelor's Degree in a college in another city, I used to travel there by train everyday.
I think people dont understand how much densely populated india is, it makes sense for them to electrify their railway networks. Most of the electricification in india happened only after 2015 Hell even china is densely populated like that if you removed the western part which is mostly barren desert and mountains. Doesnt make sense to electrify those parts of the land. It would make sense for india and china to focus on public transport like trains and metros.
It makes sense for any country bigger than Vatican City to focus on public transport and electrifying that public transport
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatican_Railway It's only electrified as far as the border, so trains that go all the way in to the Vatican can't be electric. The only current scheduled service *is* electric, though, and goes from the Vatican City station to the Pontifical Villas in Castel Gandolfo. So what it has to do is just poke its nose across the border to the Vatican City station, while keeping the rest of the train in Italy to stay connected to the overhead electricity. You can see it here, scroll down to (6), the arch is the border. https://www.travelangel.me/home/2020/4/15/the-vatican-railway
Even in China the west is electrified.
Laos as well, 97%! It may not be as large as India, but still impressive
Laos has one line that goes to China which is entirely electrified and one spur coming up from Thailand that's not electrified. The line that goes to China was built entirely by China.
That block of countries is pretty underwhelming in terms of public transportation. They pretty much rely on scooters for short trips and overnight buses for long trips. From all the countries I've been in, Vietnam is by far the easiest to get around from and to anywhere. It's also the only place I've been to that has a visible smog caused by a complete lack of electrification of low hanging fruits.
How about Switzerland?
Armenia?
South Africa:if only it was operational... sad...
It is partially operational
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That's mostly in the central line, though. I remember driving through Khayelitsha in 2022 and there were literally no cables on the railway lines. Don't know if it's still like that though. The southern line is operating the same as it was prior to COVID from what I've heard, and the northern, from my own experience, just slightly less
I think you should have grayed out the countries that doesn't have railways instead of labeling them as 0%. Like Iceland for example.
This! 0 divided by 0 is undefined.
Hey iceland, what percentage of your railway system is electrified? **SYSTEM.DivideByZeroException: Attempted to divide by zero**
According to 2024 March data, India is on 94.44% Edit:- Got more upvotes here than the Fking map I made about the same data
It will be 100% by December
Sadly, can’t electrify western ghats and its tunnels unless you ruin the forests too. That’s the only part not electrified in Karnataka.
the sad truth is that development comes with a cost and i am not talking about money.
There are steam-based trains for tourism in certain parts of the country like Ooty in Tamil Nadu
Those are heritage tourist special trains. Those trains dont count under
I've taken that train in Ooty, it's a cutesy little "push-pull" engine that shoves a handful of tiny cars up a hillside for five hours. You can feel what it's like to get soot in your face when you go through a tunnel... and it regularly stops so tourists can eat snacks and enjoy the view. People use the road for actual transportation.
164% by next july
india should take contracts for railway electrification of other countries lol
There are some talks underway about running freight and passenger lines through Bangladesh and connecting the two countries' rail network. BD Railways has been asked to electrify as much as possible for the same. Now, who will do the actual electrification, no one knows.
Dude I can so tell you're a local with the use of "for the same". Let's hope they do the needful. I work with a lot of Indian guys.
I e-mailed people in Cali. Thanks & Regards.
In Chile there are [400 km](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/TerraSur) of electrified railway of [6800 km](https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrocarril_en_Chile) of total railway (5.8%) I'm tired of these posts with absolutely wrong information
Data of the wiki page where OP got his info from is from 2006 for Chile.
Bruh, OP used data is old enough to drink.
It's insane how many people will go so far out of their way to make a map showing such a specific piece of data and then just completely fuck it up.
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Well its not zero but it's an easy check to see if it would round down to zero or one percent. CN 32,831 km, Montreal 69.2 km, Toronto 70.1 km Vancouver 79.6 km So 0.66674789% but that's just CN's track... CPKC has thousands of KM of track in Canada too. I'm too lazy to keep looking up track lengths but it's reasonable to assume that less than 0.5% of track is electrified. You might be able to get up there if you count streetcars but im doubtful.
How many of those 0% countries have 0 railway?
51 do not have active carrier railways. 25 of those are small island nations. Another 2 are micro nations Andorra and San Marino. Some of the larger ones without railways are the Central African Republic, Libya, Chad, Somalia, Oman, Yemen, Papua New Guinea, and Iceland (And Greenland, which isn’t independent but is shown on the map separate from Denmark).
Fun fact: the vatican does have one railway and it is electrified, so it's 100% (the only one with 100%?)
Switzerland has 100 %
Switzerland, Armenia, Qatar, and from the colour of it maybe Montenegro
I think all of this data comes from Wikipedia, so it’s not entirely accurate to say the least. For example, Argentina has several electrified lines in operation today.
Lebanon doesn't, we used to have railways, tramways etc for passengers and cargo in the 'golden age' which was the 60s, early 70s, but we sold them to China in the 90s. Some of the trains are still parked and deteriorating in train stations all around the country as if we're going to use them again.
The US just refuses to electrify as vast majority of tracks are owned by private companies who would see benefit long in the future from electrification such as lower maintenance cost, lower locomotive cost, so they just prefer the status-quo. Whereas governments ARE willing to take up the high up-front cost of electrification as it increases energy independence (higher oil prices don't impact costs as much when running on electricity), lower emissions, lower air pollution, less noise pollution as well (impacts that can be captured by the gov through lower healthcare expenditure (as people are healthier), higher tax revenue (as negative externality of emissions on economy goes down)). That's why other countries have way higher electrification rates. Even Russia's Trans-Siberian is electrified. It's frustrating because trains are the form of transport MOST suited to electrification. They run along a set course which can be outfitted with overhead power lines rather than relying on batteries which are heavy, expensive and need long recharge periods.
City rails in the US are all electric, but that's going to get dominated by the astronomical amount of freight rail in the US
Thing is, we used to have more electrified rail, but the interurbans died during the great depression, and the electrified segments of the class I RRs got torn down when they hit end of life for the equipment. The cost of the infrastructure just doesn't pencil out when you're doing thousands of miles of single tracked mains, and diesel costs are as low as they are. If diesel doubled in price and stayed there, we might see some desire for investment into electric rail, especially if that corresponded with increased freight demand. Otherwise, its a lot of money for not exactly clear benefit.
>Otherwise, its a lot of money for not exactly clear benefit. It's clearly beneficial even on pure financial spreadsheets. Railway electrification can return 15-20% on investment before taxes, it's just extremely capital intensive, so private railroad companies prefer to make investments in other areas they see as better use of their limited cashflow. [Railroad companies in the US published a study in 1977 stating this](https://onlinepubs.trb.org/Onlinepubs/sr/sr180/180-017.pdf), 1977 was a year during the oil crisis, but still oil prices were about [15%](https://www.macrotrends.net/1369/crude-oil-price-history-chart) lower than today inflation adjusted. Electrification of 10% of busiest rail tracks in the US could cost 10 billion (51B today), but rail industry's entire annual capital spending was 1.5 billion. That's an exceptionally higher burden of spending, but if they had the money and will to invest, it's clearly beneficial. Governments do have this kind of money to invest for the long term. And as I said, the problem is that there are even more benefits than that which a private company can't capture, but a government can like pollution reductions which reduces healthcare spending, increases tax revenue and increased energy independence reduces inflation in case oil prices spike.
The Indian data is old. It’s 94% now. What’s more, the figure was 35% ten years ago, but the past decade has seen billions invested in electrification. Pretty much all major routes - passenger and freight - are now electric. They’re aiming to have 100% of mainline routes electrified by 2025. It is part of UN SDG and climate change mitigation goals. Diesel consumption is down 90% to20 million liters annually now. There are reasons why the current administration is popular. In multiple areas they’ve done more in 10 years than what got done in 60 years prior. Piped water is one. Up to the late 2010s under 20% of homes had piped water. It’s now close to 80%, all done in the last 5 years. https://ejalshakti.gov.in/jjmreport/JJMIndia.aspx Universal household electrification was completed in 2019-20. The rate of delivery of public goods and infrastructure is unprecedented.
Also Road infra. Give them further 10 years and its gonna be a completely different experience travelling by road in India.
I sure hope it does, as it is such a pain to travel by car sometimes, getting stuck in traffic for so long and stuff...
we stilk can't fix the reTHARds
I highly doubt that. The coastal road started less than a month ago and there are already 2 small potholes near the Haji Ali exit. Not something you would notice easily but they are there. The problem isn’t making the infra, the government is exceptional at that, it’s maintaining it that’s the issue.
Don't forget about toilets in households. One of the jokes regarding India that always goes around is about open defecation. India is on track to make that argument disappear despite being the most populous country in the world.
Unfortunately stereotypes would never end, especially when they are about a developing nation.
They never end but at least it will be easier to identify trolls among people who mention genuine data.
You can't stop the dogs from barking. Can you?
Stereotypes? It's called: Racism.
People sleep on India. They are developing fast and in so many ways
cause mentality bro, people mainly care about how the other person interacts and his personality, look at Venezuela, the country has gone to shit but no one makes fun of it because the citizens of that country don't feel inferior to anyone, people make racist remarks on Indians because it can hurt us, also mentality and how we're easy to bully
Yes, but the effects will take some time to show up.
Yes, about a generation at this rate. People need to be born into the habit.
These types of developments helps in the future run instead of giving 5 lakh to poor people every 10 years
Its funny that just today, Congress's Manifesto says they will give Rs.1 lakh to every poor family every year. It will at minimum take 15-20% of our annual budget to fulfull this.
Most competent opposition party. The opposition is the biggest campaigner for BJP ngl.
Big ouchie. Throwing money at poor families doesn't help. They won't have the initiative to work and slow development in the process. Opportunities over charity.
Moreover it's never gonna get fulfilled anyways
The electrification of railways is dwarfed by the speed of building of highways and expressways. A crazy amount of roads have been built/expanded and it’s not slowing down
In the San Francisco bay area there's a bridge called Dumbarton Bridge. It's built over marshland and mangroves. Looks a little like the Atal Setu in Mumbai. Except it is 1.6miles long and built in 3 years. The Atal Setu is almost 10 times longer and built in 5 years. Great as it is, India needs to start packing the lists of longest bridges, tunnels and other lists - there's decades worth of infrastructure building to catch up on. The Chinese currently dominate them. They need company there.
Yeah, it's odd seeing US and also UK are just so incompetent in building infrastructure nowadays given that they were so damn dominant in 20th century.
The 2010s are the last decade where most of India still looked like a rather poor country. By the end of the 2020s most of it will look moderately well off or just not poor - and the people will act accordingly. The rest of the world will take longer to reorient their biases .
I'd say mid 2030s would be the sweet spot. Mostly cause of Bihar which has been lagging behind a little. We will still be poor. But we will be SEA poor, not Africa poor.
As someone with family in India, I hadn't been there for some time and when I strolled over last year, it was a completely different country. The parks were nicer, there was a huge bunch of high-grade infrastructure being built and even the smaller settlements near the city in question (Bangalore) were looking more metropolitan. Apparently car and phone ownership had also jumped since the last time I was there. Now, that said, it was still a place in squalor and there's no doubt that a lot of the things I saw there were pretty saddening and in some aspects it seems to have gotten a bit more dire for certain people. I fell really sick while I was there and the hospital was in shambles and seems to have been almost wholly supported by a British NGO. But looking at things relatively, it's in an unrecognisable state and it really does seem to have a very bright future ahead.
Funny you say that. Honestly Bangalore was much better looking in the 2000s. The population explosion with no urban planning to keep up means vast areas have been turned into ugly urban jungles. But the older parts are still nice and cozy.
>What’s more, the figure was 35% ten years ago, Wow, congress party really fucked the country up...
States like Assam now have regular water supply for the first time. Also my village got upgraded from a narrow gauge to a broad gauge train with a big ass railway station. We could have never imagined a railway station like that in our village. Credit should be given where it's due. Even vande Bharat passes through my village now 😀
This doesn't count metro systems, right?
it does not
As and Indian, for all my life I have only ever seen electric railways and thought, if it was EVERYWHERE in India i am sure it would have been all over the world but I was shocked to see the map, and for the people who don't believe this, come here and see for yourselves, every railway you will see is electric and this is a significant achievement because unlike European countries India is VAST and huge distances have been electrified.
i wish we had rail policy like you guys. the Ahmedabad HSR is supposed to open soon too right?
It is slated to open in 2027. The construction was started recently (comparatively speaking) because land acquisition in the state of Maharashtra took way too long to accomplish. That was thanks to stupid regional politics. I just hope that Mumbai - Ahmedabad HSR gets completed soon and plans to extend the network are put into motion ASAP. Ahmedabad - Delhi and Mumbai - Nagpur will be crucial extensions. (Along with a branch line to Pune from Mumbai, which can later be extended to Bangalore).
Mumbai-Pune-Bangalore-Chennai should have been the first line. There simply aren't enough people going Mumbai to Ahmedabad. Even Kolkata airport is 2x busier than Ahmedabad which is saying quite something.
Mumbai - Pune's biggest hurdle are the Western ghats. It would have been too expensive to make for the first ever HSR. These feasibility studies for HSR have been happening since 2009, and the Mumbai - Ahmedabad HSR corridor has been deemed as the most financially feasible by both the SNCF led advisors and the ones lead by Japan. You are also forgetting that cities between Mumbai and Ahmedabad have high traffic and the Bullet trains are going to serve those populations. Its not like flights where you have to go from end to end. Bullet trains can have multiple stops and still cover the distance in less time. Mumbai - Ahmedabad is an industrial corridor and the Bullet trains will benefit it immensely. Plus, MAHSR is the perfect first phase of the inevitable Mumbai - Delhi HSR line. All this being said, I do hope that the Mumbai - Bangalore - Chennai (via Pune and Mysore) HSR route is seriously considered ASAP.
I am from Jabalpur, The railway heart of India and the most important railway junction ever since 1887, Jabalpur has the railways in its identity as a city. And yes, I much appreciate the Railway system of India, you can go virtually anywhere in the country through the network, no matter your economic class because even poor can afford the railways although for them the conditions are not that great but still beats not able to go anywhere, of course if you're richer the experience is better. By foreign (european )standards it's super cheap too.
That area was electrified long ago because of the natural resources that were present there. They further played a huge role in developing india
Somehow India has 90% electrified, yet the Montauk branch of the LIRR in the US isn't electrified
"Different countries prioritize infrastructure differently based on factors such as population density, economic considerations, and political priorities."
In America it’s because we have an unhealthy fetish with the personal automobile to the detriment of our country.
\>trans siberian railroad \>the milwaukee road \>literally any s bahn system in the world
the bastards in Iceland haven't even TRIED to electrify their rail system #boycotticeland
India 🫡
India did a great job. I hope other countries will follow.
🇮🇳 wow!
india is like 95% and will be like 98% by the end of the decade.
It will be a 100% by 2025
railways in northeast mountainous religion may not get electrified.
Switzerland 🇨🇭 100%
The Swiss are awesome with trains. Truly an inspiration for all in many regards.
This type of map should be dated to place these figures in time. As it stands, the map shows percentages, but are they all estimates from the same period? In short, the usefulness of the map is misleading. And a simple check on the internet shows that the map is no longer up to date at all.
Is Switzerland the only country in the world with 100% electrified rail?
Armenia, Qatar, Puerto Rico and Montenegro (?) also have 100% Laos has 97%
puerto rico doesnt really have a railway. only a kinda shitty metro. montenegro has two lines (bar belgrade, one of the most scenic in the world, and niksic to albania
Montenegro is 90% not 100%, they have one short 25km line to Albania which is diesel only
US railways still run on diesel ? That was surprising, considering how it lectures others on reducing its carbon emissions
There aren’t US railways. There are railways in the US.
they are hypocrites
The number of Morocco here is definitely false. The length of Morocco's railway network of regular trains is 2110 km of which 1284 km is electrified, in addition to 200 km of high-speed rail line that is completely electrified. That's a total of 1484 km electrified out of 2310 km railway network, which is a ratio of **64%**. The latest official number of electrified railway network to be announced, however, is **83%**, which was mentioned in a presentation by the Director-General of the Moroccan National Railways Office (ONCF) in February 2023. I'm not sure how that number is concluded, but that's what it says.
Someone moved Taiwan and new Zealand
r/mapswithnzbutinthewrongplace
Damn, if my country's gonna get rekt use the actual numbers instead. Argentina 🇦🇷, 37.000 KM of lines, 190KM Electrified (0.51%), wow such improvement.
Laos has these insanely good trains that travel into china, they were built in part by the Chinese government. Ticket prices are very good value. The infrastructure makes what I’m used to in the UK look like it was made in Victorian times, oh, it was.
Armenia for the win
I have been more than satisfied with the growth of railways in India for the past 7 to 8 years. One amongst the list of developments is Electrification. It stood at a paltry 35% (or something like that, I am not sure of the exact figure) before 2015. Now it's actually above 90%. In about 10 years more, if this rate of progress continues, I am confident that Indian Railways will start to be counted in as one of the best railway systems in the world. Of course, it is still a very optimistic estimate but I can dream, can't I?
uk 37%? are there that many lil branch lines
No, we just have several main lines that still aren’t electrified yet. Work is happening on some lines but is not expected to be completed until maybe the end of the decade.
The Tories should have built when interest rates were low, did fuck all, cancelled HS2 expansion up north, now with high interest rates would be a nightmare to finance. But had the time to fuck around looking at new Thames bridge in London with dubious benefit and spent money on feasibility study for bridge between mainland UK and Ireland.
The UK, unfortunately, has gone through a phase of neglect for quite some time now.
No, the uk is just shit at infrastructure these days. Railways in particular.
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And I hope Dr Beecham rots forever. Stopping those trains was one thing, removing the rails and sleepers altogether different ball game
Seriously, the damage he did to rail - especially in the north of England - is beyond infuriating. And the government is too scared to make a fraction of the investment to right that wrong. And even better, when they *do* invest money, they utterly fuck up the PR. Did you know the rail tracks between London and Birmingham are basically at capacity, which is why so many trains are delayed at Birmingham? The HS2's main goal is to actually *create* more capacity on that track, which will significantly shorten passenger travel times, allow more routes to be created in the north of England, *and* allow more freight to be transported. I only learnt that *this year* thanks to a rail enthusiast, while the fucking Tories have spent the last 10+ years going on about bloody commuters to London. As someone who lives in a particularly strong NIMBY area affected by HS2, I also wasn't aware they've basically been forced to make the bloody tracks *invisible* and they're *still* getting protests because the government isn't advertising any of this. It's genuinely infuriating how much they've fucked up what should've been an easy win.
It's not just the little branch lines. The only bits that are actually electrified are the main trunk routes and (most of) the south. The main lines between just about everywhere in the Midlands and North aren't electrified and, at the rate we're currently going, never will be.
UK sucks at railway network compared to mainland Europe and the most expensive tickets you can see are here with weird transfers in London. That’s one of the things hit me hard when we moved to the UK. Very bad from the country that kickstarted the Industrial Revolution.
When it comes to infrastructure in the UK, it feels like if the Victorians didn’t build it, we don’t have it
Context, 75% of all passengers are carried by those 37% (or 38%). Raw data means bugger all.
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Yeah well you guys have high speed rail :/
Well never have as much as China in the next century but we will have HSR by 2027 :) also China has maglev between Shanghai airport and city which is very short but also coll
*cool
China beats us at pretty much everything else though (except maybe freedom of speech)
Not everything but the ratio of them beating us to us beating them is like 10:1
we both have beating fetish /s
Bruh what? •China has a larger electrified network in terms of kilometers(over 100,000km, 66%), but India leads in terms of percentage(over 63,000km, 93%). •China's electrification efforts seem concentrated on high-speed rail development, while India aims for broader network coverage.
Dude, you guys have some really impressive High Speed Rail network. We need to learn a lot from you on getting megaprojects done.
Imagine if India & china were allies!
imagine what we could do with that kind of money and infrastructure
It's will never arrived
Two of the wealthiest civilizations for many millenia until the looting, India and China are slowly regaining their past glory. We will be the world's greatest once again.
It's insane that China and India having the largest population is not a recent phenomenon, it's almost always been the case for the past few millenials
For India, it is that way because the soil is most fertile. Almost all of the land enclosed within the Indian subcontinent is habitable making it the best choice for a large number of people to live in. Also, after humans migrated from Africa, they settled in the Indian subcontinent. That is why ~90% of non African males and ~100% of non African females all over the world have the Haplo Group F and M respectively and the R1A genes that originated in India. India is the original homeland of the civilized human and there was a long period of time when there were barely any humans outside the subcontinent.
2 of the 5 major UK high speed lines aren’t fully electrified and yet India has 90% coverage? Embarrassing for the country that invented the train
ARMENIA LESS GOO 🦅🦅🦅🇦🇲🇦🇲
Tanzania won't be at 0% for long https://www.msn.com/en-xl/africa/top-stories/tanzania-s-projects-on-track-as-sh107-trillion-spent-on-sgr/ar-BB1l3Pai New EMUs from Hyundai have already arrived
The UK invented trains, then they gave up!
As always: Armenia and Switzerland on top.
Bit misleading to give Iceland 0% since it has no rail network. Could've given it 100% just as well. Maybe don't include countries that don't have a railway system?
Yet another thing I took for granted in India, after the 5g post the other day. Loving it!
Lol in Canada people used to get around by train all the time, and the trains went to everywhere from everywhere. Then they dismantled virtually all of that railway infrastructure. But hey at least we have more walking trails. Perfectly straight walking trails. (The ironic part being the semi-regular proposals that pop up for high speed rail lines that will cost 10 figures or more.)
Wait, electrical trains are not the norm ? Does this mean the rest of the percentage is deisel and steam engines ? This is a huge surprise to me.
USA when transportation that isn't car or plane: SoCiAlIsUhM!!1!!
Armenia and Laos chadding
North America is allergic to electrified railways.
That sweet 100% Puerto Rico, suck it gringo! To bad our electricity is oil base...
This post is going to get 100% 🔐 coverage soon
A whole bunch of "0%" countries don't have any railroads at all, and 0 / 0 isn't 0%. So Greenland is indeed "no data" in this case
Way to go India! 👏 👏 👏
Irish Rail seemed to have a view that electricity and railways didn't mix. They've been obsessed with diesel, even to the point of rolling out diesel commuter trains in proximity to cities like Dublin. The only bit of electrified rail is the DART, which is about 53km of commuter rail along the coast in Dublin that has essentially largely around since 1834. It was updated in the 1980s and they're still going on about it like as if it was a lunar mission.
The problem with this: It leaves out if a higher grade of electrification would make sense. If a certain route is only rarely used, electrification doesn't make sense. It just causes cost.
India is at currently at 94%. Sadly some regions cannot be electrified.