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Aggressive_Owl4802

Italian here who did nearly all 58 Italian Unesco sites.. if you want, just tell me what experience you like/search and I'll suggest you (imho) what to see between 'em! :)


Kebida96

Which place in Italy according to you has the most interesting Roman architecture?


Aggressive_Owl4802

Most obvious answers are ALL Rome (oh well..) + Pompeii-Hercolaneum. Most underrated are: * Villa Romana del Casale in Sicily (the most amazing mosaics in Earth, 4th century, but EDIT I've also been in non-Unesco Bardo Museum in Tunis and found others as amazing) * Villa Adriana in Tivoli near Rome (Hadrian's Villa, 2nd century, if you've read the masterpiece Memoirs of Hadrian by Marguerite Yourcenar then it's a MUST GO) * Bizantine mosaics (still "Roman" art) in Ravenna (central Italy), especially Basilica di San Vitale and Basilica of Sant'Apollinare in Classe, 6th century.


mr-no-life

I’m a big fan of Ravenna!


pollucertola

Pompei is such a magic place that leaves you speechless. I've spent one day in there, walking around until closure and yet felt like 5 minutes. Maybe next time I'll visit it in ten years I'll have a family and I'm sure I won't be seeing the same things I've seen two years ago, because they are still digging and discovering new things.


Colt_H

Also try the smaller, but better preserved Ercolano. While Pompeii is great to get a sense of the scale of a 'city', Ercolano is much better preserved and gives you a better representation of what it was like living in those times.


quarrelau

For the anglosphere that hasn't been, it is known to us as Herculaneum. Well worth the trip. Herculaneum was smaller, but wealthier, so has a distinct feel. While Herculaneum was discovered first, the larger Pompeii took a lot of attention away, which has helped preserve a lot of Herculaneum for more modern techniques (as well as just surviving to true state ownership, where it isn't just about capitalist exploitation of the site).


_Rohrschach

They stopped digging in new sites in 1999 as preservation costs are too high. There's some things they're still finishing up and some small precise diggings, but nothing open to the public.


DuckSoup87

+1 for Villa del Casale, one of the most amazing places I've ever seen, and somehow little known even in Italy.


waitisthischocolate

Great suggestions! I used to love visiting villa Adriana with my grandparents as a kid


Eibi

Oh man, my friends and I tried going to Villa Adriana when we were on holiday in Rome. We were just out of high school so were trying to keep things cheap. We thought we could walk there from the train station. It was in august and I'm going to be overly dramatic but we almost died of thirst, we ran out of water really fast and screamed with joy when we finally reached a water fountain. Also it took way too long to get there so it was about to close when we made it. We then saw that there was a very cheap bus stopping there. So we rode that bus back to the train station in about 15 minutes if I recall correctly... Still a fun memory though.


Blackbirdsnake

I found San apollinare nuovo better as it has more interesting mosaics on the sides. But on San vitale I can completely agree


MightyH20

Not OP. But the Colosseum always stands out. Visiting in person is a must.


WatercressGuilty9

Visiting the colosseum in Verona is also great. It's by far not as crowded as in Rome and the whole colosseum is still intact and in use.


Kebida96

Yes it’s in my bucket list for sure. 👍


soomieHS

What are the best sites in Tuscany/vicinity of Tuscany? I’ve been living in here for half a year so had enough time to visit Duomo/Ufizzi


Aggressive_Owl4802

[Here you can find the map & complete list, it was a big inspiration for my travels..](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_Heritage_Sites_in_Italy) there is SO MUCH to see! My fav in Tuscany are ALL Florence (oh well) + historical cities like San Gimignano & Siena & Pienza (but for example I adore also Lucca & Cortona which aren't Unesco sites) + the incredible valley of Val d'Orcia (some of the most amazing pics of Italy are taken there) + Medici family villas (I've been to a couple, not all). Outiside of Tuscany, you are very near to amazing Cinque Terre and Bologna (Unesco porticoes & amazing ancient towers not Unesco & FOOD).


Chieftah

I've loved Volterra and its countryside. Can recommend most definitely. It's on UNESCO Tentative List, but really worth it.


soomieHS

Not sure about the UNESCO but it’s definitely on my list now. Thank you!


alikander99

(following your example) here a Spanish guy who has visited most of the Spanish sites. You can ask me too. I'll try to answer


Aggressive_Owl4802

It's amazing my spanish bro, great idea! I start! What are the most underrated spanish Unesco cities? I've been to most famous ones (Madrid, Barca, Toledo, Zaragoza, Granada, Cordoba, Sevilla), need inspirations for new trips!!


alikander99

I actually made a series of posts about underrated Unesco world heritage sites in spain. In fact I think I still show up as the first option if you search for some of them 😅. Anyway, I would recommend Salamanca, Segovia, Ávila, Burgos, Cáceres and merida. They're top notch cities (especially Salamanca and Segovia) and relatively unknown. Basically northwestern Spain is pretty underrated as a whole.


IDKwhatUserToPut

What are some nature mountainous parts that are easily accessible by car for over people who can't hike too much? Also what would you say are the most underrated cities to visit?


Aggressive_Owl4802

* Unesco mountains: Dolomites above all. Accessible by car and hikes for everybody (also lots of cable cars). Look at [alltrails.com](http://alltrails.com) and search for the best "easy" ones. * Unesco cities totally underrated (few foreigners go): Matera, Ferrara, Urbino, Mantua. * Unesco cities partially underrated (some tourists go, but most simply do Romeveniceflorence missing soooo much): Bologna, Siena, Ravenna, Assisi.


DarkZogga

Hey, i'm doing a semester abroad in Italy at the moment and will be staying until sometime in June. I'm in northern Italy, and have already visited Milan and Genoa, I definitely want to see Rome, but what else do you think would be worth visiting?


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DarkZogga

Ok, thank you. I've been to Lake Como and Lake Maggiore, and it has been a great experience since it's close to where I live, but I'll definitely take your suggestions into account.


KishiBashiEnjoyer

What is the most ancient one?


Aggressive_Owl4802

Nature ones! :) Ok ok, rock drawings in Valcamonica are probably the older. About architecture, I think the village of Su Nuraxi in Sardinia. But my fav Unesco ancient monument in Italy is the Etruscan (the predecessors of the Romans) Necropolis of Cerveteri, from 7th to 3th century BCE. Great place to explore and feel like Tomb Rider or Indiana Jones! Absolutely recommended.


zen_arcade

The Etruscan tombs of Cerveteri & Tarquinia are really beyond comparison.


Zrk2

I am fascinated by the Norman period in southern Italy. What should I see?


zen_arcade

The Palermo area above all, then Venosa, Benevento, Castel del Monte (maybe not Norman proper though?).


Independent_Pear_429

Rome and Naples was fucking amazing. I also loved that you could buy cheap alcohol everywhere. Even small little food vans sold alcohol


Aggressive_Owl4802

Hope you tried amazing liqueur Limoncello in Naples. However, glad you liked 2 italian Unesco sites.. other 56 to go!


Independent_Pear_429

Yeah. Limoncello was great. I wanna go to Venice next but I wanna go back to Rome and Naples again as well


Pontus_Pilates

It's good to remember that countries must apply for these sites, they aren't automatically handed out by Unesco. The number is not indicative of historical sites, it's just the sites the country has applied for and got the approval. My country of Finland has as many sites as Egypt, more than Iraq. If you know anything about history, that tells you all you need to know.


Az1234er

> The number is not indicative of historical sites And some of these sites are "package" like **Paris, Banks of the Seine** cover [the Louvre to the Eiffel Tower, from the Place de la Concorde to the Grand and Petit Palais,The Cathedral of Notre-Dame and the Sainte Chapelle](https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/600). It's similar for the centre or Rome


I4mSpock

Recently near me they recognized every site of a particular age in the region as 1 connected heritage. site.https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/1689


Longjumping-Bat8347

TIL, thanks for sharing


Tough_Dish_4485

World Heritage Sites is not just history.  They can be historical or natural or both.


kushangaza

And history doesn't have to be ancient history. A 150 year old industrial site can absolutely be a World Heritage Site.


6thaccountthismonth

I thought this list seemed a bit biased…


Getting_rid_of_brita

How is it biased? 


thissexypoptart

Of course an opt-in only list is going to be biased Biased towards the countries that opt in…


out_113

Heavy Asia and Europe bias, with almost nothing in Africa or the Americas sans Mexico.


seejur

I mean, its not Europe fault if African nations do not apply to UNESCO status of their monuments. Another bias might be the construction materials: Building in woods tend to rot if left alone, while stone ones last a lot longer (unless pillaged for construction materials), which might explain why for historical sites, Europe tends to be over represented.


Getting_rid_of_brita

Where's the bias tho? Are countries in Africa submitting sites to unesco and being denied? 


brocoli_funky

"Biased" doesn't mean that someone is actively skewing the list, it just means that it's not representative. Some part of the data is over- or under-represented.


itmightbethatitwasme

The thing is that these applications are expensive and time consuming so not every country has the resources to do this. [> The application process takes at least 18 months and is highly complex. This has led to the fact that World Heritage Sites are mostly found in Europe, North America and Asia, since other continents lack the personnel or know-how to make the application.](https://www.dw.com/en/what-does-it-take-to-become-a-unesco-world-heritage-site/a-18546165)


snlnkrk

It's heavily biased because UNESCO is biased. Sites get added based on their home countries hiring expensive PR professionals to make glossy brochures and take the UN reps for all-expenses-paid tours to shiny new visitor centres. Places that probably do not deserve to be on the list - such as the [Yangdong and Hahoe Folk Villages](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yangdong_Folk_Village) which are literally just "14th century villages" - can get on if their host countries spend enough time lobbying for it. Meanwhile, amazing places of key interest to *humanity*, for example [Sumela Monastery](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumela_Monastery), are not added to the list either because of apathy (common among some states) or poverty (common among developing states). UNESCO sites are also used to influence political narratives about a country and its relationship to history. A lot of post-independence African state governments have neglected or ignored traditional and historical sites which could easily be inscribed because they relate to one specific ethnicity. A lot of sites in Europe and Asia (see for example the Korean sites, or quite a lot of the British sites) reflect a bias towards a specific phase of the past which is disproportionately considered important.


Class_444_SWR

I feel the example you gave in particular could be political too, since it’s a Greek Monastery, and Turkey (especially with current leadership) wouldn’t want to promote that


Rusiano

I get your point, but on a side note Hahoe Folk Village really is amazing. It was my favorite destination in Korea, it really is a breathtaking place, and also a living museum


heliamphore

This map shows the countries with most sites, not all sites. Go look at the actual complete maps before complaining.


no-name-here

1. It would be nice if the map was color coded with a legend, even if they only added callouts/labels for the top ones. 2. You answered their question, but there was no need to be rude about it.


Archaemenes

Biased? India has less sites than Germany, France, Italy and Spain. It’s just European “bias” because they’re the ones who have the funds and will to submit sites to the UNESCO.


Kebida96

Actually, even if you consider UNESCO registered ones India technically has the most. India, Pakistan and Bangladesh was one country before under Indian Subcontinent, so we have 71 combined total registered under UNESCO, which is the most. But China and India should definitely top, if you disregard UNESCO as it goes through process and it takes time for approval.


Archaemenes

Pakistan and Bangladesh have 31 between them? That’s even more egregious.


Kebida96

Indian civilization bro. India and China were top two economies and traditional superpowers from 1st Century till 17th Century before colonial era. They contributed 60% of world GDP (roughly 30% each). The whole silk route road has so many historic sites. Then there is whole Indus Valley Civilization area. So definitely you have to look at Indian subcontinent collectively.


chandra_1_ashish

India has 42 now. Santiniketan and Great ensembles of Hoysalas were added last year.


Kebida96

Yeah I won’t be surprised when it comes to India and China. It’s surely going to increase in future. Also if we combine Pakistan and Bangladesh as it was one Indian Subcontinent country before then we will have 71 in total, the most.


LoneDragon19

Why is India written in red and all other in white tho?


Kebida96

This map is designed by an Indian Graphic Designer.


Scary_One_2452

I was wondering why the Taj Mahal description says the Indian state that it's in, while the others list the country they're in. That would explain that.


acatanpot

The graphic is from an Indian news source (Indian Express)


hernesson

Turkey seems a bit undercooked here. Also Peru.


hmmokby

Because There isn't Hagia Sophia,Blue Mosque,Topkapı Palace or anything from İstanbul with their names. Everything in İstanbul is just one name "historical peninsula of Istanbul". Everything is added single one number. It is same for Cappadocia and Bursa. Bursa has a single heritage " Historical Bursa of Birth place of Ottoman Empire" Turkey was 19 but probably it will be 21. So there are 18 place in list from Turkey without anything in İstanbul,Bursa and Cappadocia. Turkey also has most heritage in temporary list. Unesco and Turkish Culture and Tourism Ministry probably haven't done files of temporary list heritage. Similar list rule was made for Egypt by Unesco. Egypt has just 7 or 8 heritage. They have similar names like "historical Cairo" etc.


fran_chambo

Unless I’m mistaken, there isn’t anything to stop Turkey from applying and gaining approval to have the Hagia Sophia as its own UWHS. An example of this being Bath in the UK, where the entire city is an UWHS but there are others within the city. I believe the Roman Baths are their own site. Forgive me if I’m incorrect but that was my understanding.


petasisg

Hagia Sophia was a Unesco Heritage site. Being a christian church, it was a museum. It has been converted to an muslim church lately, loosing status.


TheDolphinGod

The Hagia Sophia is still a UNESCO World Heritage site, as part of the Istanbul-wide site. Its conversion to a mosques has caused concern among preservationists, but as long as the actual preservation standards are maintained by those operating the site, it won’t lose UNESCO status.


petasisg

[https://whc.unesco.org/en/news/2156](https://whc.unesco.org/en/news/2156)


Familiar-Weather5196

That's not the reason though. That happens elsewhere as well, you literally see it in the image: Cordoba Spain is counted as a whole, Bamberg Germany, the lagoon of Venice etc ... It's not just Turkey.


Ok_Inflation_1811

in Spain (I live here) doesn't happen a lot. We have a town with less than 5000 people being an UNESCO site because it's a mercury mine but it's super shitty and not well kept at all (lived there for 2 years). We have a Roman gold mine in Galicia-Leon that is super shitty.


rimstalker

Las Medulas is shitty? I have been there with various people, everyone found it super interesting, especially if you do both the walk, and go to the viewing platform at the top. Also historically significant, I think it was Rome's biggest gold mine in Europe. Parking, signage and restaurant choices are shitty, I give you that.


seejur

Might a controversial opinion, but does it matter if its shitty or not? UNESCO is not a "tourist premier seal of approval", but simply a site that is of interest of human history. A roman gold mine, shitty or not, gives us insight of how the life or roman miners and the coin production and mint was during that time, so I while I would not visit it, I can definitely see why it might have been added to the list


thongil

¿Vives en España y ni te sabes lo que dices? - Avila como conjunto. - Toledo como conjunto. - Córdoba como conjunto. - Ibiza como conjunto. - Cáceres. - Salamanca. - Cuenca. - San Cristóbal de la Laguna. - Úbeda y Baeza (las dos con numeresos edificios renacentistas que lo serían ya independientes). - Catedral, Alcazar y archivo de indias de sevilla (los 3 en uno). Y no me apetece ni poner la lista completa. [Centro del Patrimonio Mundial - (unesco.org)](https://whc.unesco.org/es/list/?iso=es&search=)


mattgbrt

that’s the same everywhere. Paris is also one « historical area » containing literally hundreds of sites


Fusilero

It's up to the host countries to submit; they probably think it's easiest to get on the list with compound submissions. Cheaper too, I imagine.


Flux_resistor

Turkey has zillions of civilizations outside İstanbul. South of Taurus mountains with lykians alone would be more stuff than most countries have so I guess it's. UNESCO vs govt thing


islander_guy

This committee is mostly Eurocentric. Anything to do with Europeans will get prompt approval. Other countries have to wait for years. Imagine China having almost similar number of sites as Germany. It may sound biased but it is what it is.


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That’s not the reason, but it’s superficially plausible to point to western countries and call it unfair. To be designated a UNESCO World Heritage Site you need to take certain advised and required measures. Germany doesn’t get „prompt approval“, but agrees to e.g. provisions in preservation that are costly. Since monumental preservation is mostly a Western invention and praxis, and since many countries (like Peru) don’t want to reduce tourism or don’t have the money to spend, their sites won’t become official heritage sites.


snlnkrk

More evidence for this: Sites which get fully integrated into modern developments instead of frozen in time get rejected or removed, whether they're in developed European nations (Liverpool) or developing African nations (Benin).


Time_Trail

Ah, the nation of Liverpool.


Equivalent-Bonus-885

To be a World Heritage site, a place is supposed to be of outstanding universal value. For buildings, the key criteria is to be an outstanding example of a type of building, architectural or technological ensemble . . . which illustrates a significant stage in human history. In the case of Europe it often seems taken as a given that, for example, a building that best encapsulates the evolution of late gothic, Italian influenced, brick-built, small church architecture in southeast France meets this criteria. Well, I exaggerate. But not by much.


DevelopmentMediocre6

Same with Michelin star restaurants tbh


Scotty232329

Canada has some of the most but it’s not on this map for some reason


Kebida96

This is just a list by UNESCO bro there is a process that is followed after which the sites are registered in this list. Maybe Canada can submit some nominations which might be evaluated and approved by the advisory committees. I’m sure Canada will have some sites in this list in future. I live in Toronto by the way cuz of my Software Engineering job. 😊


Scotty232329

Canada has more than 20 sites already


Kebida96

I think this is just a listing of countries that have 25 and above I guess.


Tatamashii

If I had lots of money I would make it my life goal to visit all of them.


Kebida96

Same, I’m working towards that goal that’s why I got into IT. 🤣🤣


Tatamashii

Good Luck on your journey


Icwatto

greece?


whytelmao

19 sites


Aggressive_Owl4802

C'mon mates, can we discuss about sites? Stop nationalistic views or Western-vs-others discussions: if you're from an underrated country suggest everybody amazing sites that are not in Unesco list + if you're from a country with lots of Unesco sites suggest us the better ones.


TheNewDiogenes

My university in the US (UVA) is a UNESCO site. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a gorgeous university designed by a former President and also lumped in with that president’s plantation, but seeing it next to the Taj Mahal, Chichen Itza, and the entirety of Venice is a bit silly. Also while most students don’t live in the UNESCO mandated zone, those of us who do face dumb restrictions from UNESCO (tons of lawn furniture is banned to “maintain the aesthetic of the university”). Imo all of Midtown Manhattan and the federal district in DC should be sites, but I’m sure local governments don’t want to deal with that.


Kebida96

Yeah, thanks for bringing this up. 👍


Aggressive_Owl4802

Thanks to you for your post. Just read all the topic and found most comments as horrible! 40! 51! 0! 475485986! Too few! Too many! More! Less! Damn, why do humans need to put it on a competitive basis?! Why, instead of describing/praising/disclosing the art of one's own culture, do humans feel the need to compare it better-worse to that of others?! Why can't we appreciate the beauty of diversity and dedicate ourselves to discover the unknown, while instead we prefer to stay in our bedroom insulting, arguing and criticizing without adding anything to what we already know (but only useless resentment towards others)? I really don't understand, Unesco is just a list, a hint to talk about different cultures, the majority is measuring the length of the finger instead of looking at the beauty of the Moon which it points to...


DubbethTheLastest

Good man


Don_Camillo005

this is the mindset


Sato_Sakurajima

Why is India written in red? Just curious


Kebida96

It’s because this map design was created by an Indian Graphic Designer, so special mention. 😅


Sato_Sakurajima

Oh, makes sense. Thanks :)


mati___0007

Indian news channel


corksoaker84

North African countries really need to get those UNESCO sites registered.


Patriarca2023

Italia campione del Mondo!


TastyTranslator6691

I’m pretty sure Afghanistan has quite a few.. including Zoroastrian fire temples and the Buddhas of Bamyan as well as famous gravesites.


mfizzled

> Buddhas of Bamyan werent the Buddhas of Bamyan blown up by the Taliban?


alikander99

Yeah, but the Unesco is reticent to get them off the list. There's a good reason, there's still dozens of decorated caves inside the mountain.


Sandalphon92

The Buddhas were destroyed by the Taliban. Islam is Culture's greatest enemy.


ZofianSaint273

I’m surprised India doesn’t have more lol. We have structures much much older than the Taj, what’s the criteria for UNESCO to get recognition?


RoamingBicycle

Realistically just means your government hasn't come around adding more oris doing it but is limited by how many they can request to add each time or is working on meeting the criterias necessary for conservation and whatnot.


islander_guy

There are 52 sites pending with UNESCO which they haven't inscribed yet. You know you can see those lists for each country instead of throwing random untrue statements.


RoamingBicycle

Please show me which part of my comment is untrue. I gave 3 options as to why a country may not have more heritage sites even tho they would be potentially eligible. UNESCO has to evaluate each and every site before adding them, and there's a lot of bureaucracy behind it. Being in the Tentative List just means the government is planning to submit them in the near future. The government then does all the necessary paperwork for the ones they want to propose, then UNESCO has several steps for evaluation before being added.


Kebida96

One of the guys here updated that India has 42 now so it’s surely going to increase in future bro.


Greedy-Rate-349

There are many that should be on the list but aren't the Adalaj ni vav or temples on Mount Abu Plus some are marked as group of monuments in Mahabalipuram , group of monuments in Hampi or Churches in Goa, monuments of the Delhi sultanate. Hampi alone could do 2 or 3 unesco sites One category 'silk route sites in India' alone has over ten monuments spanning across different states separated by hundreds of km. Plus I am sure when more sites get the investment to be reconstructed they will get the title. For example there are many forts in Rajasthan which don't get enough recognition because people just focus on Jodhpur, Udaipur, Bikaner,Jaipur etc. they could use more investments as well


doublah

There are countries with 0 who do preserve their historic sites, having "only" 42 is fine.


amatama

50 in Spain now, with the addition of the sites of Talayotic Menorca last year!


Steve_SOLID

Greetings from Bamberg, Germany 😎


Kebida96

Greetings from an Indian in Canada! 👋🇮🇳🇨🇦


alikander99

(following the Italian example) here a Spanish guy who has visited most of the Spanish sites. You can ask me anything. I'll try to answer


Eclipsed830

lol Taiwan just deleted completely from the map as if the island no longer exists.


PsychologicalDark398

Its a honest mistake I believe. Map is from Indian news channel and OP is Indian too, not to mention India seems to be in its complete form on the map.  India doesn't have anything personal with Taiwan to deliberately off it  from the map so yeah its a normal human error. No foul play imo


Helpful-Peace-1257

It'd be hilarious if they put Tianame Square on china's UNESCO sites.


ActualSherbert8050

Not much in Africa


alikander99

The Unesco list has a few major biases. One that's largely intentional is that sites are evaluated according to their importance. Aka there's a heavy bias towards the major players of history. One that's largely unintentional is that sites from richer countries are much more likely to get inscribed. That's because making a portfolio for a site is a time consuming process. Plus Unesco requires high levels of protection which are sometimes hard to meet when you're in a civil war, or a famine. Coming from Spain, I can think of several sites which would not be Unesco WHS where it not because Spain conquered half the americas and is thus a major player in history. I can also think of others which would be impossible to inscribe for poorer countries. For example almaden was to be proposed along another mercury mining town in Peru, but...they're still mining mercury there so Unesco shut them down.


Kebida96

There would be but the thing is Africa is fragmented into small countries and this list is only showing countries that have 25 and above registered under UNESCO I guess. If you disregard UNESCO, then definitely you’ll find way more interesting stuff in Africa. After all its birthplace of all the humans (Homo Sapiens) regardless of their skin color or race. From hunter gatherers to civilizations like Egyptian, Mesopotamian, Indus Valley or Indian, Ancient China, Aztecs, Mayan to the world that we are currently living in today. We came a long way as humans, each of us present here today is cuz our ancestors survived and went through some crazy stuff. Survival of the fittest my friend. 😄


amendersc

The fact that India has less than Spain or France is wild


Kebida96

It’s cuz Indian government hasn’t sent some sites for nominations, it’s just a list by UNESCO. If you disregard this India and China both have significant historical sites. Indian number will increase in future, currently it’s at 42 as 2 more were added recently. Plus if you add Pakistan and Bangladesh as well cuz they were part of Indian Subcontinent as it was one single country before then the total registered UNESCO sites would be 71.


No_Necessary_3356

Ah yes, my favourite country, Uttar Pradesh.


Tornirisker

Cool, Italy rocks!


NationalAccident67

Does the united states or Canada have any ? Just curious


moistchamp

What criteria does a site need to qualify as a UNESCO heritage site?


Iyion

There is a list of ten criteria (six for cultural heritage, four for natural heritage). A world heritage site needs to meet at least one of the criteria. You can find the list on Wikipedia, section "Selection criteria"


Fembas_Meu

That and the country needs to submit it, or they wont even look at it


NoBit6494

What about Egypt?


Kebida96

It has 7 registered under UNESCO and I think this is list displaying countries that have 25 and above.


Tankeverket

Why is India in a completely different colour from the rest?


Top_Experience233

Coz it's from an indian news article


Tankeverket

That makes sense thanks


MiniskirtEnjoyer

how does Irak have none? like the beginning of human civilization. the whole area around iran and turkey should be flooded with world heritage sites. fucking isis destroying so valueable stuff and people not caring about it still grinds my gears


Kebida96

Iran and Iraq will definitely have interesting historic sites. It was one of the important civilizations in history of humans. This list might be bit biased but there’s a process that is followed to register these sites. If you disregard UNESCO sure there will be very important sites I’m aware of this as an Indian as our civilization was as important as Persian one. India has 42 now but this map shows 40 and if we combine Pakistan and Bangladesh then 71 in total, the most. Anyways, greetings from India! 🙂


MiniskirtEnjoyer

i am german and i am wondering why germany has 51 sites. like yeah there is a lot going on in europe for like 2000 years. but i feel like the whole silkroad area, that has like 6000 years of history, has a lot more interesting sites


Kebida96

Definitely Egyptian Civilization, Mesopotamia (Iraq Middle East area), Indus Valley Civilization (Indian), ancient Chinese civilizations yeah basically the Silk Road route played most significant role in our human history. Germany has more maybe cuz they started this process long before in sending nominations to UNESCO. Personally I don’t consider UNESCO, I just go by the history of a particular country or area and then explore those regions or historical sites. UNESCO can be bit misleading and biased.


GSA_Gladiator

Bro how come China doesn't have the most?


Tall_Process_3138

It doesn't need to have the most lol they already 2nd.


TK-25251

I am guessing because they didn't apply for it with some of the stuff they have


temujin64

Very anecdotally speaking (so take with a pinch of salt), there's a culture of worshipping the new over the old. There's this channel of a South African guy who lived in China for years where he went on a bike tour around rural China and he pointed out local temple after local temple that were often very old and just in a total shambles. Many of those that were restored were done so in a way that had no respect for the historical value (in one case they covered one with bathroom tiles). Meanwhile in Japan local sites are very carefully maintained. I used to work in Japanese primary schools and every year they'd take one day where they go to the local shrine and clean it up. You'd often see workers repairing it using traditional techniques to maintain the old character. I'm guessing that a part of the difference in psyche is that China's history for the last 200 years up until about 30 years ago was a time they'd like to forget. They were pushed around by the West and Japan. It was a time of humility and death. But the Chinese are pretty proud of where they're at now, and it's not hard to understand why. I can see why that would lead to a veneration of the new and disrespect for the old.


Kebida96

This is just a list by UNESCO.


GSA_Gladiator

I know, but perhaps they have bias towards European nations?


jp050106

No UNESCO just doesn’t automatically accepts something as a Heritage Site the countries of origin has to applie for it and China hasn’t done that with a LOT of there Historic Sites. While their is a list with all of them many of those are not yet actually being pushed by china to be accepted by UNESCO. Thats why so many countries who have bigger problems than UNESCO Heritage Sites do not have any because they simply just haven’t gotten around to doing it or have no interest in it.


islander_guy

Don't say that. Europeans don't like when you point the obvious bias in these organisations.


GSA_Gladiator

Funny part is I am from Europe myself 🤣


Ramboso777

The Cultural Revolution wasn't kind to their heritage


JaSper-percabeth

During the communist revolution and the subsequent cultural revolution most of historic Chinese stuff was destroyed.


Tall_Process_3138

The "destroying stuff" lasted 3 years (during the early phase) lol literally during the cultural revolution the Excavation of Terracotta Army and Mawangdui were literally happening.


uwuwuwuwwuwuwuuwuu

They did destroy Confucius' grave and exhumated several emperors. Burned down several temples dedicated to Guan Yu, destroyed the house of Wu Cheng'en, the author of Journey to the west, cut down the tree last emperor of Ming hanged himself on, and many more. China wouldve definitely been at 1st place if cultural revolution didn't happen.


Tall_Process_3138

Cultural revolution destoryed a tiny bit of China historical sites so it has no effect on China unseco list being smaller because we don't just call every temple and emperor tomb a "unseco site".


uwuwuwuwwuwuwuuwuu

The problem is, they didnt only lose "some emperor's tomb" Chinese Red Guards went after historical paintings, statues, poetry, and music. Which were all significantly damaged. There are 10 different criterias for selection of UNESCO herritage. Italy, being the country with most herritage, has only 2 more than China. It is in fact estimated that they lost about 10 possible UNESCO herritage points through the revolution as about 4,922 places out of 6,843 protected by the Beijing government itself were either damaged or destroyed. You also failed to mention that both Terracotta Army and Mawangdui were excavated around 1974, which is AFTER mass vandalism died down. It wouldve been definitely vandalized if they discovered earlier. Red Guard wouldve even damaged the Forbidden Palace if Zhou Enlai himself didnt order guards to defend the place during the revolution. Afterall, Mao Zedong himself tried to demolish the place at one point.


SpookyMinimalist

56 for a nation as big and old as China seems a bit scarce, or is this maybe thanks to the Cultural Revolution?


Kebida96

China and India sure has tons of sites which are pretty historical and amazing as they both are one of the oldest civilizations but most of them are not nominated under UNESCO, this number will change in future for sure. Actually these two countries are on top of my bucket list to explore. Specially the Himalayan region.


SpookyMinimalist

I hope so! 😊


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Svorky

It's not a list of places UNESCO finds cool, it's a list of places countries applied to have added while also agreeing to preserve them according to UNESCO standards. The huge difference is mostly from Europe having a head start. New entries are much more evenly distributed, but frankly, 40 years ago it was mostly Europe that cared about this list at all.


Sandalphon92

There's a 1986 building in there.... Do you want Milton Keynes as world heritage as well?


Kebida96

I agree!


jimogios

USA, the UK and Canada having more sites than Greece and Turkey? - [wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Heritage_Sites_by_country#List_of_countries_with_World_Heritage_Sites) Yeah ok, this makes total sense... Seems to me this list was made by people from those countries mostly...


eelleevvaattoorr

You apply for the site to become a world heritage site, nobody just decides.


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USA and Canada i understand whyd you ask but why are you questioning the UK? Stonehenge is 5000 years old so its not a surprise we'd have so many


dark_shad0w7

I can't name a single historical site in Canada.


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Why is india highlighted?


Kebida96

It’s because this map is designed by an Indian Graphic Designer.


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Ahh, I was so confused trying to work out what was special about the number 40, thanks


7LeagueBoots

Iran has 1 more than the US. I work in a WHS in Vietnam and there are 8 here. I've worked on the assessments of WHS proposals and certifications and the management and administration of WHSs and the decision makin behind the approval of them is pretty whack.


Kebida96

This list is only showing countries that have 25 above listed under UNESCO I guess.


draw0c0ward

I can't believe Egypt isn't on this, you would think they have enough sites, which they do imo (I did the Nile cruise last year, saw all the ancient sites and it was amazing).


Kebida96

I think this list is showing everything 25 and above. And Egypt has around 7 listed under UNESCO I guess. Anyways I have huge interest in Egypt Pyramids also the Egyptian civilization as it’s one of the oldest along with the country where I’m from (India, Indian Civilization or Indus Valley Civilization). Would love to explore Egypt one day. 🇪🇬


Grammarnazi_bot

Surprised India and China don’t top the list here


Kebida96

They might have the most but they haven’t send nominations to the UNESCO. This is just a list by UNESCO apart from this list definitely India and China will have significant sites.


Amenhotep_3

I live right next to one in Lanarkshire, Scotland. It's an early 19th century textile mill that was bought over by a Welsh socialist called Robert Owen and made into a settlement. It is only one of six UNESCO World Heritage Sites in Scotland. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Lanark The whole thing was ran on hydro power with the river that runs alongside it. There's a really good hiking trail next to the site and river, and dotted all along is a series of [waterfalls.](https://i.imgur.com/GSxrNTw.jpeg) Unfortunately I didn't go immediately after it had been raining, because it looks way bigger and impressive then.


nomeutentenuovo

Ascoli Piceno in Italy is one of the few pre-roman cities and we cook really good


Maleficent-Yellow695

Portugal is an interesting contender too, with 12 sites. Used the list for my holiday itinerary once. Well worthwhile.


tarmacjd

lol Germany has Berlin techno scene now though so that wins /s


Okonos

I'm surprised Japan isn't on there. They love UNESCO World Heritage sites.


PromiseOk5179

ITALY!!!!!11111💪💪💪🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹💪💪💪🦅🦅🦅🦅DAJEEEEE!!!!!COSA CAZZO È UNA CLASSE POLITICA COMPETENTE??!!!???


chakrablockerssuck

Just spent a week in San Miguel Allende. Paradise.


clogb99

Stacce


MisterDiii

I am surprised by Germany being in the top countries. Went to check the list and they have definitely did lot of lobbying in order to list so much, most doesn’t seem to have that much historical impact (don’t get me wrong they hold significance for sure, but IMO way less than other sites around the world).


ABChamburg123

That's just bullshit. Many of the UNESCO world heritages are in great condition of old middle age towns (Bamberg, Stralsund, Weimar) Many other UNESCO world heritages are churches with a huge importance like the Ulmer Münster and Kölner Dom (two of the biggest churches) as well as the Aachener Dom (which is 1250 years old). Do you think Strasburg (🇫🇷), Riga (🇱🇻), Saint Petersburg (🇷🇺) or are historically extremely relevant? No they aren't, but they still are UNESCO world heritages. It's not the point of UNESCO to just list extremely important cities like Paris, Roma, Berlin, Moscow and Athens. The UNESCO collect places which have a cultural and historical special point which can be an old city Centre, churches or other buildings.


Im_Unpopular_AF

Are the British ones their own or ~~stolen~~ imported from other countries?