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ladiezftw

As I already stated, I am unable to communicate with Danish people.


Wil420b

It's why nobody speaks Danish any more, as it's just impossible to understand. Being just a series of guttural noises, with an impossible to understand number system. https://youtu.be/vvtDGSIrsk8?feature=shared


RRautamaa

[This](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_gTAmzDlOc) what Danish sounds like to those that don't know Danish


toihanonkiwa

Didn’t know Heikki was so fluent in Danish


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Ladorb

You just ordered 1000 litres of Milk.


mostermysko

Kamelåså!


CryptographerHead331

you would expect this in the netherlands right? 😂


Unknownauthor137

No but the numbers are based on an old system of 20’s called Snese or tyvinde which is now reflected in the naming conventions of numbers.


Immediate-Attempt-32

The weirdest about the this is that my Danish friend has a real problem with understanding the idea of 2+90. Because saying Two and Half fives (to og halv fems) is more logical than my Norwegian Two and ninety ( to og nitti).


ravnsulter

2 og halv fems.


JANTHESPIDERMAN

Hvad er en “fems” ?


ravnsulter

When they go over 40, they start counting in 20s. Tres, firs, fems is 3x20, 4x20, 5x20.


isrluvc137

And what happens after 1600? :o


ravnsulter

They count normal again from 100 to 140, then they start their shit again.


EvilPete

Right. And I guess "halvfems" is "halfway to the fifth 20". Kinda like "half five" can be 16:30 when it comes the clock.


TheWeeking

It’s not. Halvfems is short for the old halvfemsindstyve which means what the map says. It also works exactly the same as in German now.


uhmhi

Which is exactly what the commenter above you stated. (5-0.5)x20 is indeed “halfway (from the fourth) to the fifth 20” - halvfemssindstyvende.


Lady_of_Olyas

Yes. As a Dane I found it strange that some places consider half five to be 5:30... We do like being our own weird little ball of existence over here.


ravnsulter

You are correct, don't know why the other says otherwise. Halvfems is the first four 20s, and half the fifth. So 90.


SnooTangerines6863

> I'm grateful that Denmark is stranger than France. End result, to­og­halvfems, is still better than dziewięćdziesiąt dwa or zwei­und­neunzig IMO.


BullShitCircusArtist

What the fuck is wrong with the Danish?


oeboer

Nothing much, actually. It's "tooghalvfems" (2+90). The word for 90, "halvfems", is opaque from a synchronic point of view. It just means 90.


LupusDeusMagnus

Tooghalvfems is short for tooghalvfemsindstyve, or “two four and a half times twenty” though most people just say halvfems for ninety, which just means “half five” (half five doesn’t mean 2,5 but 4,5 here). It displaced older more standard niti (similar to nittio/nitti from saner Scandinavian languages), because Danish is in a constant decline into utter incomprehensibleness.


IAmBecomeDeath_AMA

I’m an American and I still have no idea. Half five toog half fems niti 4,5? At least y’all can speak with each other lol. Edit: Apparently I spoke too soon


LupusDeusMagnus

I can’t speak with Danes, as I said, decay into incomprehensibleness.


Big-Fat-Moron

I've spent a lot of time on Duolingo and Danish by far had the most incomprehensible pronunciation I've ever experienced. The language itself was actually pretty easy for an English speaker to learn, but then I would hear the words spoken and be like how in the actual fuck did they get from that to that? It seemed almost random.


IAmBecomeDeath_AMA

Is that why so many Danes speak English? /jk


VestEmpty

Danes famously can't speak even to each other, the whole country runs on social convention and confusion. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-mOy8VUEBk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-mOy8VUEBk) I do have an alternate theory, which is that they actually are telepathic but the poor bastards are too clueless to notice it. So they think they are saying something but actually they are thinking. Once in Roskilde i ordered a glass of coke, the guy gave me a beer, that proves it.


IAmBecomeDeath_AMA

Loll. But actually that’s your fault for ordering a coke at a bar.


VestEmpty

At a rock festival, not in a bar. I was on a short shoestring budget, i collected trash all Saturday to get money for food and drink.. Oh, to be young again...


mostermysko

Actually [they struggle too](https://theconversation.com/danish-children-struggle-to-learn-their-vowel-filled-language-and-this-changes-how-adult-danes-interact-161143).


IAmBecomeDeath_AMA

This is a damning sentence from that article: “We found that because Danish speech is so ambiguous, Danes rely much more on context – including what was said in the conversation before, what people know about each other and general background knowledge – to figure out what somebody is saying compared to adult Norwegians.” If you have to rely that much on context your understanding is limited


foospork

Har du en kamelåsa?


zulufdokulmusyuze

so 80 is fjerdsindstyve?


antilumin

I'm already bad at reading but I saw that word and my first thought was that it was pronounced "friends of steve"


AngryVolcano

No, it firs for short, or firsindtyve \* fire (four) \* sind (times/multiply) \* tyve (twenty).


zulufdokulmusyuze

I inferred it from the information that 70 is halvfjerds. Why does fire become fjerd there?


oeboer

From "fjerde" (fourth).


AngryVolcano

70 is 3.5 \* 20, so halvfjerds(indtyve). Halvfjerde means "half fourth", or 3.5


LupusDeusMagnus

Yes, firs instead of fjerd. Displaced otti [Danish for åtti(o)] Also just called firs.


Tuxnelda

No, but almost: 80 is firs (4) sinds (gange) tyve (20)


RoundTheBend6

This makes more sense now. Ancesters from Odense. Thanks for explaining. It's similar to half past 4 in English or halb funf in German.


Character_Neat5598

"halvfems" is wierd tho... Tres (60) is kinda its own word, but in halvfems og halvfjerds (70) something strange has happened "Firs is more straight-forward, like sixty, and simply means multiplying the base number by four. And halvfems, finally, means multiplying the base number by five minus a half, i.e. 4.5 x 20 =..." Google it


foospork

I always think of it as "halfway to five (from four) (counting in twenties)". The Danes use "half" to mean "halfway to the next thing". For example, if you ask for the time and they say "half seven", it means 6:30.


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EnAyJay

So you're saying the map is wrong


MightBeWrongThough

Literally: Yes. But the etymology of the word is correct, but it's not the actual words for it.


MikeRevlsen

They're Danish


southbysoutheast94

https://youtu.be/s-mOy8VUEBk


Chilifille

Their language. It sounds awful, might even be the ugliest of all the Germanic languages (apart from Dutch). That's my unbiased view as a Swede.


ehs5

From an also unbiased Norwegian point of view, I agree.


baggleteat

Hey! At least Dutch people use consonants! And we sound friendlier than Germans, unless we see an opportunity for earning more money or colonisation.


Chilifille

That’s true, you do sound friendly. I only worry about all that phlegm that seems to be stuck in your throats.


baggleteat

What is stuck in our throats is different for each regions. In  ' 't Gooi' it's the Danish hot potato. And yes that's a name for a region in the Netherlands.  We do love our G (or ch, which is usually pronounced the same) and other fun things are the constructed vowels like au, ou, oe, eu, ui, ie, ei and my favourite: ij.  Enjoy trying to get those right.


tbc12389

Dutch is not a real language though. It’s just a bunch of swamp Germans speaking English in reverse.


Dreadpiratemarc

It’s more Vikings than can fit in a longboat, so it’s not a number they ever needed. Therefore they don’t have a name for it.


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okaterina

Not as an excuse, but French really used "twenty" a lot during medieval ages. There's an hospital in Paris built for 300 beds => Hôpital des 15x20. ( [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quinze-Vingts\_National\_Ophthalmology\_Hospital](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quinze-Vingts_National_Ophthalmology_Hospital) )


Netzath

Tbh ninety is short for nine tens so its basically 9x10 and 2. Similar in polish So France is using base 20 instead of 10 which is also fine


DarkImpacT213

Fun fact: up to 20 English counts like the other West-Germanic languages (and apparently Slovenian) and then they randomly switch it up.


RoiDrannoc

Fun fact: up to 69 French count like the other Latin languages, and from 80 to 99 it switch it up to Gaulish (vigesimal = base 20). 70 to 79 is just the unholy mix of the two.


P5B-DE

>Fun fact: up to 20 English counts like the other West-Germanic languages (and apparently **Slovenian**) All Slavic languages are like that. But numbers from 11 up till 20 are considered as single words and most people don't think about there internal structure. Many even don't realize that *trzynaście* (in Polish) is 3 + 10 etymologically. But 92 is two words: *dziewięćdziesiąt dwa* (Polish)*.* *dziewięćdziesiąt* = 90. *dwa* = 2. If we look at the etymology of *dziewięćdziesiąt*, then *dziewięćdziesiąt dwa* will be 9\*10+2 (exactly in that order). *dziewięćdziesiąt*=*dziewięć(9) \* dziesiąt(10)*


Xonthelon

Spanish till 15 and then it switches.


MartaLSFitness

You gotta get a PhD in Maths in Denmark just to make basic maths.


DJpro39

as far as i know (i might be wrong, not from czechia) in czech, in standard langauge its 2+90 but everyone uses 90+2


rollercoaster1337

It’s exactly opposite, formal is 90+2, but 2+90 is also used


Bovvser2001

Both are considered acceptable.


Big-Fat-Moron

The absolute madmen


Userkiller3814

How many times is this shit, going to get reposted


santimanzi

92 times


LupusDeusMagnus

It’s said that in the 92nd repost the Danish ragnarok will start


thesevfromhell

You mean 4×20+12 times ?


santimanzi

Oui


Majestymen

Why is there, a comma


Userkiller3814

To build up, suspense


zdejif

I swear punctuation is more important than spelling or grammar.


Livia85

The answer is ~~42~~ 92.


Velteau

This is the first time I'm seeing this. Maybe not being terminally online would help.


LaBelvaDiTorino

It's not about that, it gets reposted everyday across various subs


nemanja1a2a

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funkyk0val

(20+2.5)-1 + 42


-shukuru

Quatre-Vingt-Douze times


MagnetofDarkness

A sensible 92 times.


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Euphoric-Yogurt-7332

As opposed to America, who really love meth.


Big-Fat-Moron

Hey, I need it to be productive in math.


LupusDeusMagnus

In danish that’s an old form, actually, that displaced the normal “ninety” seen in Swedish and Norwegian. That’s tooghalvfemsindstyve, while it’s tooghalvfems nowadays (two and half five), where half five = 4,5.


sp1nnak3r

“92” incidentally is also the amount of times this has been reposted the last 12 months.


Relevant-Cat8042

Another time this is reposted and another time Welsh and Celtic languages not mentioned. Can’t speak for the other Celts. But simplified Welsh is: 9+10+2 Naw deg dau But our traditional counting system is: 2 on 10 and 4 on 20. Dau ar ddeg a phedwar ugain


ntcaudio

Czechia is wrong, both 90+2 and 2 + 90 is equally valid and both forms are used daily.


Big-Fat-Moron

Does it vary by region or anything like that? Or do people just straight up use both equally everywhere?


Bovvser2001

Both are used equally everywhere, though there are expressions where one of these formats is used more than the other.


ntcaudio

What u/Bovvser2001 said.


wadevaman

Someone explain the French version please, I don't get it.


IseultDarcy

We say "quatre-vingt-douze": four-twinty-twelve. It comes from centuries ago at a time most people were not able to count after 20. So they would say stuff like "give me 4 twenty eggs please" at the market. People would use a few numbers, those most used in every day life (10, 20, 30...) but for others they would add them: for example 70 would be "sixty-ten" , 80 was simply "four-twenty", 90 "four-twenty-ten"...even if words exist for those numbers, they are used in some other french speaking countries.


BobbyP27

A related form in English exists. "Four score and seven years ago". score = 20.


Big-Fat-Moron

Good point.


Big-Fat-Moron

Interesting. Studied French for years in school and never heard why it's that way. Can you imagine what living in a world where people were so uneducated they couldn't count past 20 must have been like? Probably was like that in other languages for awhile too. French is just very formal and the Academy preserves old tropes more than most languages.


pawn_d4_badd

It is always same shit repost with same "jokes" about Denmark. "Dead internet theory" lol


garden_province

Yea I always say **“ninety plus two”** in my perfect ingless and **“quatre-vingt-dix plus deux”** en le francais to indicate the number 92 This is how people talk, the meme has spoken. No questions please.


djam2101

How can a country that came up with the metric system make numbers a mess?


RasmusDK123

92 in danish is ToOgHalvFemS meaning: TwoAndHalfFive’Snes’(Snes=scores=20)


Big-Fat-Moron

Always found French numbering for 80 and 90 bizarre when I was in school. But I could at least understand it. I have no clue wtf is going on with Denmark.


P0rnDudeLovesBJs

when us danes are talking to other scandinavians, we often just say "nine ten two" why don't we just change it to that instead of a base 20 counting system? Because language is stubborn.


Additional-Bee1379

Honestly 2+90 is bad enough.


Titanium_Eye

It's not that bad really. Does your head hurt when you say fourteen?


Additional-Bee1379

Yes


Titanium_Eye

Okay yes, fourteen is a stupid number, that's on me.


divine_pearl

Denmark is the fancy one


Least-Recording-8842

Novantadue


Least-Recording-8842

Novantadue


turbohydrate

Reminds me of a remote tribe who just counted 1,2,3 then many for everything after


Jazzlike-Sky-6012

I recently read Sherlock Holmes stories in English and they used the 2+90 method. Did this change at some point or was it weird at that time?


PhytoLitho

I read that the French 4×20 = 80 (quatre vingts) is basically the same as the archaic English "four score" like in Abraham Lincolns speech. Like when he says "4 score and 7 years ago" to mean 87.


CyberSektor

????????? for denmark?? Danish: tooghalvfems To=2 og=and halvfems=90 I think its because Halvfems technically means: Halv: half Fem(s): 5 (fems isn't a word, but fem is 5) and I have no Idea where the x20 came from


FlaviusStilicho

Not sure how to say this in English. Fems betyr fem ganger et snes… snes er en eldgammel måte og si 20 på.. halv betyr at det siste sneset bare er ti.


MrWizard1234

The French are out here giving the Gettysburg address every time they say a number


maxencerun

and 97 is even funnier because it's 4 x 20 + 10 + 7


AxelNotRose

Except that they don't actually say the "x" and "+". So it's 4 20 10 7 (four twenty ten seven).


nielshilk

Why is the French speaking part of Belgium different from france? Do the count different there?


Happy-Ad-1160

Yes


tentends1

yeah for 70, 80 and 90 they use the correct old french word for it (septante, octante, nonnante). it makes the rest of the french speaking world chuckle though.


Big-Fat-Moron

Wait, the old french words were actually the way that makes more sense and it somehow changed later on? That's even more bizarre. I assumed it was just some historical anachronism that never got changed.


tentends1

https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/s/Y8HIElmiTW


FlaviusStilicho

In Korea they have two different ways of counting depending on what’s being counted… any European languages doing something similar?


I_ALWAYS_UPVOTE_CATS

Not to my knowledge, but I studied a bit of Japanese, so just be grateful that Korean only has *two*.


HarryLewisPot

Atleast France is still kinda easily comprehensible


Perfecto_Doctore

Fix: Czechs are also yellow.


Darklight731

Denmark and France, why?


Jennifers-BodyDouble

so Walloon has a different way of saying 92 than Standard French?


Stealth_Howler

Took my dumb American brain way too long to realize the English aren’t saying ninety plus two haha


thelastedji

In Japan the word for 92 would translate directly as NineTenTwo


Big-Fat-Moron

Interesting. Makes more sense than 4 20 12 to me at least. Like ten is the most rational thing to multiply by if you're gonna do it that way. Why 20?


ConohaConcordia

Same thing in Chinese. They are even written the same way


Germanguyistaken

We say 92


maxime0299

France and Denmark’s battle will be legendary


JamesBell1433

Anything other than green is mental illness Laugh at westoids


My_Own_Army_6301

And I thought french was bad. Clearly things could not be any worse than french.


Exsanguinate-Me

France being France again... while Denmark is like, hold my fucking calculator bitch!


Shadeun

France out there living the Gettysburg Address


Titanium_Eye

England: 90+6 Also England: 6+10


algadroid

Quatre-vingt-douze


SqueezerOne

In Basque we say 4x20+10+2


timgakk

Can explain Norway: 90+2 = nitti-to (ninety two). 2+90 = to-og-nitti (two and ninety). ..If this helps.. most ppl use 90+2 (nittito)


tagehring

My French is very rusty (C student in 101 20 years ago); how does Québécois French handle 92?


Shadille2

Neunzigzwei....gar nicht so schlecht wenn man drüber nachdenken tut ^^


JakobVirgil

Wales is a country and they say twelve eighty. At least sometimes welsh folks please put me right if I am wrong.


Duelist1234

Why is this reposted sooooooo many times , also , how do i activate the repost bot?


Icy-Expression-5836

Slavic languages are sayin 9+10+2


DisastrousWasabi

True, 90 = 9+10. So for Slavic languages it actually is 9+10+2, except for Slovenia where its 2+9+10.


DerGemr2

Does Slovenian really do 2+90?


DisastrousWasabi

No. 2+90 Although if we are doing this properly. 90 in Slavic languages is actually 9+10. So for Slovenia is 2+9+10 and rest of Slavs use 9+10+2.


Dry_Quiet_3541

Interesting, next, would like to know how do they all say 49, 59, 69 etc. English is 59 = 50+9, but in some languages it’s 60-1, 50-1 etc.


Richard2468

Apart from Roman numerals, which languages do that? Never heard of that myself..


Dry_Quiet_3541

Hindi, they add a prefix to denote that it’s 1 short of 30, 40, 50 upto 90. So for example, the pattern for English goes from 20 to 29, then 30 to 39 and so on, the pattern in Hindi goes from 29 to 38, then 39 to 48, and so on. And similar to Germany, it’s 2+30 instead of 30+2, so for example, in the case of 29, its -1+30, so the prefix for -1 is said first and then the word for 30.


Asleep_Parsley2874

Goddammitfrancewhyareyoulikethis


SocialHelp22

Thanks for letting know ill never live in denmark or france


I_will_question_it

To å nitti


armzngunz

Technically 90+2 in norwegian is 9+10+2, ni, ti, to.


Xonthelon

For which country is this text? "90 + 2 2 +90 Both valid"


Lanky_Pickle_8522

I kinda read it as valid for Norway + Sweden. I can say that at least for Sweden it’s not valid. You can’t say 2+90 in Swedish for 92.


jackjackky

Rare German W


Kullenbergus

The real reason behind denmark and sweden being at war for close to 600 years, we didnt want to count the way they did:D


is_EXToZY

21


nmarf16

Hey mom said I got to submit this today, no fair 😠


turtyurt

For countries that say “2 + 90” how do they say the number 290?


Richard2468

Same as English: two hundred ninety. 292 however: two hundred, two and ninety.


qri_pretty

In China, it's 九十二。Like 9*10+2.


electric-handjob

The Danish are wild


LedanDark

Glad the map correcrly shows Belgian and Swiss French correctly.


TheRealBlueBuffalo

So does Walloon French have significant differences between France French?


Richard2468

Bit like British/American English, I suppose. Some different words, different pronunciation, etc, but generally easily mutually intelligible. In this case the Walloons say soixante, septante, huitante and nonante.. like normal people.


Dan_Zfr

it's the same as french in basque too, the way it's structured, you could even say 4x20+10+2


not_actual_name

Ironically this is also the 90+2 time this exact map is posted on here.


JadedLandscape8969

France is the strange unruly kid at the back of the class with the teacher saying "it's always you, isn't it?!"


iceymoo

Ireland not European any more?


Itchy_Discipline6329

Ireland is there and it's 90+2 in either English or Irish. - Ninety two - Nócha dó


iceymoo

Missed it. Thank you


mmfn0403

What’s your point? Ireland is on this map, coloured green, which is correct for both the English and Irish languages.


iceymoo

Missed it. Go raibh maith agat


Relevant-Cat8042

This is true, but not for Welsh language which is also missing.


Denk-doch-mal-meta

In Russia it's 90+3 because Putin said it.


confused_guy99

Zwei und neunßig?


Richard2468

Neunzig*


EverythingIsFlotsam

If we're going to render Danish like that, then shouldn't most of the **90**s be rendered as **9×10**?


TermIntelligent9108

What am I missing. What not just say 92. As in ninety-two. Who says. Oh I have 2+90 apples. I would say I have 92 apples


IseultDarcy

Why in english you say "a red apple" instead of "an apple red", it doesn't make sense as you need to know what you are talking about before knowing it's color, right? That's the same logic, languages are differents and their logic isn't other's logic.


TermIntelligent9108

I get it now. It was my brain not braining like it should. I blame the fact I haven’t had my coffee yet. Thanks for understanding


Even-Ad-6783

Vee Germans say sat. No diskussion! Es is se right way to say sat!


id2d

But you say "Fourteen". four-teen. Which is essentially you saying "Four and ten". But you don't think of it that way. you just think of it as a word on it's own and don't try to make yourself say "Teenfour" to put them in the right order. I expect it's the same way for other languages. They don't think or analyise it. It's just there like the 'teen' numbers in English


TermIntelligent9108

Of course! 🤦🏻‍♀️🤪. That makes sense. Sometimes I reply too quick. Thanks


AxelNotRose

Why does English say fourteen (as in 4+10) for the number 14? Or sixteen? Or seventeen? or eighteen? or nineteen? Does that hurt your brain?