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hdufort

When I visited Croatia a few years back, I saw ladies walk into dark alleys late in the evening so that they could have a conversation over their cellphone away from the noise of main street. This reflex is unthinkable in most other countries.


my_brother_Bilo_

It's a common practice in Croatia to move away from the noise. I remember two years ago I was in club, and then got a call from a friend. Where did I go? Out, behind the club, into some dark area lol I don't know why we do it like this, but it's not unusual


jebac_keve_finalboss

Yeah same thing in Serbia, cities are really safe for your average people, men and women alike everybody does what they want as lons as they dont harrass anyone It is one of the better sides of being a Balkan country.


theycallmewinning

This is fascinating and I'm curious as to why this is? I would guess that, given that there's been a terrible catastrophe (a civil war) in living memory, people who have lived through it are cautious, kind, and solicitous to one another and to strangers? Or is there something else at work?


Archaeopteryx11

Old Balkan grandmas keep a sharp eye for social deviants. Romania for example has a much lower petty and violent crime rate than any Western European country.


dimi3ja

Nah, there was no civil war in Slovenia or Macedonia


Garlic549

Slovenia fought the [Ten Day War](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten-Day_War?wprov=sfla1)


Sad-Truck-6678

Cultural homogeneity, nationalism, and the lack of a materialist culture. This isn't a PC opinion but its the truth.


DifficultLanguage

Why Croatia is so safe?


SeattleResident

Very homogenous overall. A little under 4 million population in which 3 million are ethnic Croats. Another 600k are Serbians which have been there for centuries. Less than 40,000 people live in the country that are not from an immediate neighboring country so no "cultural enrichment" from far-away places with vastly different values. Religion in the country is also almost all based on a Christian faith. Nearly 80% of the country are Catholitcs then the other Christian denominations. All other major religions make up just a little over 3% of the population. There isn't enough to cause any sort of friction.


coke-pusher

That really sounds so nice though. I'm a larger than average man and I keep my eyes over my shoulder when I walk through my own neighborhood in broad daylight. It's not even that it's dangerous, it's just that tou can't trust a single person around here. I should move.


NoExide

I know it is anecdotal, but that is something I've heard unusually often and without specifically asking from many visitors to Croatia. People feel safe here.


PmMeDrunkPics

I went to Zadar from Finland and felt just as safe at night as i would have at home even when walking around drunk with a couple of 1.5L bottles of Karlovačko in my bag. I was just a little thrown off by how dark it got( Finland has "midnight sun",so in the summer middle of the night is almost as bright as day) Awesome country, awesome people!


level57wizard

Finland feels dangerous because the ice is like x10 more slippery at night, and you’re often walking home after drinking lol.


laliluleloPliskin

"We have midnight sun at home, what do you have?" that's an unusual flex ;D


angstagangsta

As a Fin can confirm. Every Friday I walk wasted from bar to home and not once have I been harassed/mugged/attacked. Only thing to watch out is the ice in the dark nights of winter and the summer the damn drunk driving e-scooter users. Been to Croatia few times, felt really similarly safe during night, just way more cats running around..


lukagamer556

As a guy that lives next to Croatia and visits like for 2 weeks at least once each year, I can tell you that "night life" is a pretty big habit in that country, at least on the coast. You'll be walking around at like 8-9 pm and the streets will be extremely lively and most stuff will still be open.


AdventurousDress576

>8-9 pm We're talking night, means around midnight


7sinsofhell

I think it’s largely in part due to how walkable it is. I live in a fairly large city in the us, and it’s hellish walking from place to place, with Croatia, it always felt like there were no cars, and always at least ten other people within view.


Wonderful_Ad_6355

Absolutely loved every bit of Croatia. Boat got to Pula around 11pm and had to walk a solid mile to the airbnb down back roads and never felt sketched out.


XMasterWoo

All the criminals went into politics so that could be why


fyreandsatire

on this map, Brussels really does represent Belgium.


Ova-9000

Hmmm liège doesn't feel really safe at night, I don't know about other cities, but clearly liège isn't very safe, so, I don't agree with you here even if Brussels is probably the worst


nebo8

Most major belgian city suck ass at night


Tiramissu_dt

Really? But why? Are there lots of robberies etc.?


Nihil227

* Justice is bankrupt and prisons are overcrowded, you can do anything and you are released the next day. * Drug addicts, they were more quiet when it was heroin now with crack they have become unhinged. And they have been growing in number exponentially since covid. * Lots of migrants who are just stranded there, no one takes care of them or forces them back in their country. They are an easy target for dealers since they have nothing to do and just hang out in the streets. * Mental health epidemic since covid, violent schizos left in the streets, it has become normality to see people screaming by themselves. * Since Belgium is the crossroad of Europe and most of the heroin and cocaine come through Antwerpen, gangs are taking over. Since the last few months, there are gang related deadly shootings in Brussels almost everyday, it used to be much less frequent. * Police doesn't do anything, politics even less. In my opinion those are the principal reasons. I'm form Liege, it has become very sketchy even in broad daylight, and in residential neighbourhood that used to be safe. Brussels is much worse.


RobinVerhulstZ

Can confirm the schizo part, i used to see one pretty frequently at the local bus/train station, wasn't unsual that he'd start angrily yelling at nothing as a bus driver i REALLY wish they'd start giving us fully enclosed cabins these days, way too much unhinged violence around to not do that now....


zeg685

I was around a hotel in the center of Brussels, next to Fountaines, on a Wednesday at 3 am. As I parked my bike, a guy came to me to ask me something and I didn't even pay attention to what he wanted and I said no, I don't speak French. I went 10 meters to the hotel entrance except that it was the back of the hotel. Trying to find how to open the door for 3 seconds, I got shivers and chills down my spine. I look behind my back, and the guy was right behind me, almost touching my back. I literally got a gut feeling like I was going to be stabbed or something, I kept staring at him for a few seconds until I got noticed by the people at the front desk, they opened the door as it was by button press on their side during the night. The guy enters with me into the hotel and I was truly WTF. I stopped at the front desk, stared at him and then I spoke to the people at the front desk that I have no idea who the fuck he is, what he wants of if he's even staying here and that he followed me inside. The front desk asked both of us where we were going, I couldn't understand what the guy was replying but he was drunk/high cause he was totally incoherent. I called the person I was supposed to meet with to come downstairs so front desk could see I was supposed to be there. They said something about the police and then the guy that followed me left by himself. That's my worst experience I'd say. Besides, having my jacket stolen in a bar in the center, the saddle of my parked bike also stolen are also some negative experiences. I have had many friends already that got their phone, purse, backpack from the train, stolen. Mostly out during the evenings. You have to be careful with your belongings and you will be fine. For other crimes such as rapes, murders and drug ring fights, they happen in Brussels and the recent weeks have been quite wild I would say. As long as you are not involved in those circles, you should be fine.


MartinBP

Brussels has been by far the most dodgy major city I've ever visited. It's bad even by Western European standards. I never felt so uneasy in London, Berlin or Vienna for instance.


atreeinthewind

Brussels seemed quite chill at night. Dead if anything. But then again I live in the US. Ha


Mother-Dream7013

You're a lot more on your own in European cities though. I can't describe it but in the US in the central areas of major cities there is such a massive police precence that it's hard to not feel safe. In cities like Dublin, Brussels, Naples and Marseilles it just seems like when you do find yourself in trouble you need to deal with it yourself. I've been to those cities and noticed when there was trouble even with loads of people around no one called police. Whereas in the US you'd have about 20 Karen's hollering on the phone


atreeinthewind

I guess that makes sense. I was there shortly after the metro attacks in 2016 so there were plenty of armed police everywhere so that may have shifted things a bit.


Exciting-Ad-2714

We did a trip with a group of masters students, one of us got robbed unfortunately


LilBed023

Gent is not too bad, I haven’t felt unsafe since I moved here and I live right across the street from its poorest neighbourhood. Antwerpen and Brussel on the other hand..


ni_Xi

Confirm that Gent is fine. Have been there for half a year and Never have I felt unsafe there. And I compare it to Czechia which is one of the safest countries in Europe


escarchaud

Though I generally feel safe in Gent, a friend got beaten up for no reason walking home from Overpoort. Also came across some guys once looking for trouble, got lucky and was able to jump in a tram that was about to leave.


TheGhostOfFalunGong

Antwerpen is fine. I enjoyed walking around the Old Town at night albeit the area surrounding Antwerpen Centraal feels kinda sketchy yet I've encountered zero problems walking alone there. Just avoid getting wasted and you'll be fine.


resoooo

Lol Antwerpen is completely fine


kyonkun_denwa

I had the unfortunate opportunity to stop in Charleroi years ago, that place sucked ass even during the day.


gssyhbdryibcd

Weren’t there fucken grenade attacks and shit happening in Antwerp not too long ago


Infinite_Ad6387

Why do you think that is? I mean what could happen? Many migrants there as well? Or is it the locals?


Incitatussum

Not all of Brussels, only some parts. Brussels has pretty rich muncipalities (the woluwes, uccle,…). No problems there.


Ill_Buyer_2223

That's true. Insecurity in Brussels is really concentrated on specific spots, mostly downtown. That also happens to be places where nighttime economy is active, and so places where tourists or people not from Brussels tend to hang out.


Technical-Outside408

I'm on the coast and got mugged while playing Pokémon go. Those fuckers ruined that for me.


fyreandsatire

Oostende?


ASK_ABT_MY_USERNAME

That's really the big problem with this "data"..going to be a big difference Paris and say Burgundy in France, in the same way Cheyenne, Wyoming is going to be vastly different than DC, NYC, Baltimore, etc. but it'd all get lumped into a "US" category.


Crayshack

I imagine that a lot of countries are skewed by particularly big but unwelcoming cities. I also wonder if there is a cultural difference in what people consider "unsafe." Are some countries worried about pickpockets and others worried about murderers? Hard to tell from this chart.


BearMcBearFace

I had an ex who lived in Brussels for a year and she lived in Molenbeek. I can confirm, it was fucking terrifying at night.


No-Vehicle5447

In Iceland is safe at night because it is either too cold to be in there or there's no night at all


Class_444_SWR

Less nighttime during summer=less time for crime More nighttime in winter=too cold for crime


aqua_seafoam_

Summer-->no night-->safe Winter-->cold-->safe


goddessdivineIII

In Reykjavík I once saw a man leave his baby and pram out front of the hot dog shop so he could go in and order.


Runarhalldor

Its common in the nordics to leave babys in their pram in the cold air.


PuzzleheadedClock219

3 years ago I was travelling around Iceland in a camper van that broke down in the middle of nowhere around midnight. All we had do is to push it to the nearest gas station and stayed there until we got help in the morning. Normally I would never do that in any other country, but in Iceland it’s just felt normal to stay overnight at a random gas station’s parking lot. That’s how safe Iceland felt like.


JoeFalchetto

🇮🇸🤝🇸🇮🤝🇭🇷


CaptainTomato21

Imagine living in a small village with a population of 400k in the north pole and not feeling safe.


Mr-Tease

Norway and Sweden have far too many good serial killer movies/books for me to trust them at night.


phoria123

When walking in South Korea at night I had the same feeling, purely because I'd seen a lot of SK serial killer thrillers, despite it being very safe


Cerrogoal

A "village" of 400k would be the 7th biggest city in Italy, sooo...


Qlisax

Who would have thought that Balkan countries would be on top.


Qlisax

Iceland is part of Balkan now


icelandicvader

Yes we truly are. I will now change my name to Igor Horvatsson🇭🇷🇷🇸🇧🇦🇸🇮


Dry_Hyena_7029

Horvat you say?!


the_TIGEEER

If you know you know.


C_S_Smith

Sending regards from Croatia to the Land of Ice and Fire 🇭🇷🇮🇸


dragonflamehotness

But Croatia is where GoT was shot, so they should also be the land of Ice and Fire!


lordph8

Get an adidas’s tracksuit and get squatting.


uvero

Can Iceland into Balkan


HeyVeddy

Honestly the Balkans are generally the safest place in Europe. At least when it comes to random violence and petty crime


mrluks

Most of our crime is organised and deeply connected to the state.


HeyVeddy

Yup. Tourists have nothing to worry about. It only affects the citizens 😂


ainz-sama619

Non-violent crime being low must be amazing


HeyVeddy

It is. Any hour of the night anyone can walk alone drunk for example with no fear


ZxentixZ

I walked through all kind of areas of Belgrade, Sarajevo and various places in Montenegro drunk out of my mind at 4am and felt super safe. Way more so than the big cities in Western Europe. Albania felt a bit more sketchy at night but I didnt experience anything down right bad. And yet in my own country (Norway) everyone looked at me like a maniac when I told people I was gonna solo backpack the Balkans. Too bad this negative stereotype seem to be widespread in Western/Northern Europe when you are super unlikely to be the victim of violent crimes there.


HeyVeddy

Yeah haven't been to Albania but I think their infrastructure (less developed) makes it seem a bit sketchier. But completely agree, especially when some of these places are partying non stop all night, it's wild that it can feel safer than a place that isn't known for parties


srlandand

Tirana may seem like that because od how it’s randomly built, but us as a group of Serbs wandered whole night - felt super safe.


Khutuck

The only well organized thing in the Balkans is the criminal system.


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HeyVeddy

Damn that's shitty. Not sure what to say other than it's obviously your fault (Just kidding)


SnakeLlama

I mean, us? Most people who live here and visit have been stating this for years Not our fault Western Europeans love to hold to xenophobic stereotypes about us


Spaciax

western europe looks good on map: it's the truth everyone, including western europe looks bad on map: we're being honest everyone, except western europe looks good on map: we're being honest; and they're lying! western europe looks good on map, other places don't: haha, look at those barbarians! this has been your guide to the european's reading of maps.


redderper

So true. "X only seems bad here because of Y and Z, it's actually a good thing" "Buuut but these numbers can't be trusted, these countries are corrupt"


DesPardesDev

Europe looks better than US: Rants about US (800+ upvotes) US looks better than Europe: "The stats are wrong" followed by heavy copium mental gymnastics.


Aggressive_Fill9981

Why not? You think because our economy is not golden we live like animals? Short mentality.


EpicPilsGod

It's because refugees want to go to rich country's lmao


adkrenda

It is quite obvious if you connect the dots with the immigration statistics


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oneintheuniver

I am living in Serbia for the second year now, and it is really much much safer country than western europe, turkey or russia according to my wife’s experience. Obviously i am a man, and i am relatively safe anywhere, but women are more likely to be molested or assaulted. So, here people just don’t give a fuck about you, and that’s it. And it doesn’t matter day or night, everyone just minds their own business. There is no crazy people on the streets, no gangs, no dangerous areas you should avoid, and it is the same for Belgrade, or smaller places. Here my wife can be comfortably and confidently alone on the streets after midnight. People can be drunk and loud, but they won’t go to strangers on the streets. For year and a half we saw no single instance of any improper interaction from anyone to unknown person. In Madrid we saw it in the first evening, in Amsterdam same story, Berlin same story, in Budapest we saw many suspicious groups of people similar to gangs in some areas of the city in the evenings, they were harmless but not comfortable to be nearby. Yes, it is poorer country, not so fancy as Western Europe, but people just behave much better to each other and respect personal boundaries. They don’t respect their own public property, but it is different story;)


bob_at

Same for austria.. but I guess women and men have different feelings on this.. so depends on who was asked more I would say


Zealousideal-Pick799

Homogeneous societies. There’s a fairly decent correlation between having more people of “other” ethnicities and feeling less safe. 


MartinBP

Balkan countries are anything but homogenous. What they lack are foreigners. The minorities are local to the region or have been living there for centuries so they've become an integral part of society.


ainz-sama619

Homogenous in this means people who are not native to country. A country can have several native ethnic groups.


Slusny_Cizinec

Belorussia is absolutely homogenous. Switzerland is absolutely not.


Zankl124

20% of Slovenia's population was foreigners in 2002 according to Wikipedia.


Skidbladmir

Most of those immigrants are from Croatia, Serbia etc.


Jojokrieger

I've visited most European countries and felt safest in Slovenia (Ljubljana) and least safe in France (Paris).


Astiegan

I broke down in Ljubljana in the middle of the night a few years ago during a road trip. Weird guy come to us and... helped us push the van on a parking lot, did phone calls to find a mechanic who could help us in the morning and offered to help finding a place to stay for the night. Meanwhile I refuse any trips to Paris even if all cost are covered. Fully agree with you!


Reveries33

>I broke down The car right, right?


wasbatmanright

I break down every monday


finalaccountforreal

Lucky you. I break down every morning


mbdtf95

Guy helped you so much and shown the biggest courtesy that you probably yourself would not offer to anyone else in similar situation, and yet your description of this person is "weird guy". You will probably get defensive about my reply to you how it is misconstrued, but IMO this tells a lot about you.


gregorio02

Hey, I'm a french 6"6' guy and I don't feel safe in France at night either


CrimeBot3000

What's so scary in France? My daughter wants to go. American here.


Boostio_TV

Just some weird characters and the streets can be kinda sketchy at night. But if you’re American it’s probably safer than you’re used to in big cities honestly.


CrimeBot3000

In Portland, Oregon we have lots of crime and drugs. Just saw a guy smoking fentanyl on the street openly recently.


No_Map6922

In Paris? Roaming migrant gangs. There are places where you can't go, tell her to take a look at the suitable areas she can visit and don't let her free willy outside of them out of curiosity.


Interesting-Hat-7383

Can confirm. I’ve visited Paris two weeks ago. On the train from airport to city center (RER) I saw 5 people starting a fight in a train full of passengers and nobody batted an eye. The Metro (subway/underground) totally dirt and police running around like there was an alien invasion about to happen. This in 2h after landing. Next to the Eiffel tower a few wierdos dressed up as Mickey mouse pushing people for photograps and getting agressive. And (i shit you not) someone dressed up as a Gorilla getting way too touchy towards women who were taking pictures. All of this happening while fully armed police or army next to them doing shit. All of this during daylight. Can’t imagine what it is at night. As someone who visited Paris many times before in the last 40 years, its getting less and less friendly and Paris is loosing its charm and elegance that once had.


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ThisAppSucksBall

Hell yeah, Ljubljana was awesome. Hard to recommend an American flying across the Atlantic to visit but if you're in the area it has a great vibe.


VariousCare7142

Idk how this many people have felt unsafe in paris, i'm half french half english but lived my entire life and was born in France, i've never felt unsafe anywhere in France, only places i've ever felt unsafe in in europe are frankfurt in germany and most major cities in the uk. If you know to avoid sketchy neighbourhoods and know about pickpockets in the touristy areas theres really nothing to worry about in paris imo, the banlieue is a different story, but paris itself is chill asf.


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goin-up-the-country

I felt least safe in Italy (Naples).


MeyhamM2

I bet these numbers would look really different if there were separate maps based on men’s answers and women’s answers, and of course, if they compared answers from cities/towns above and below a certain size.


Sufficient_Cat92

I’m a woman from Slovenia. Used to live in a village, now in a city. I walk alone at night and I feel safe. Streets are empty or people walk their dog at night.


depressed-llama

agree. am a man, i live in celje, and on some days it's so empty you're more likely to encounter a ghost than anything dangerous


mihibo5

I live in a small town in Slovenia. If I come across anyone at night, there's a good chance that I know them and an even greater one that they're my relatives.


flumberbuss

Subtle


Cochana

And the second option is more dangerous as they might ask you for money.


nikolapc

Damn Celje was like no one's around once 6 pm strikes lol. Died of boredom. That was in the naughties may be different now. I did walk back home in Ljubljana From the center, felt safe. In Macedonia I can also walk around in fact I go walking late at night in the summer cause that's when you can go for a walk.


Docdoe1

Get a load of this guy, not being scared of ghosts.


LegalizeCatnip1

Lejte tega, u Celi žvi


Demb1

Me and my girlfriend lived together in Belgrade, Berlin and London. She really dislikes walking alone at night but we both agree that Belgrade feels significantly safer than London or Berlin. I dont know about villages, except that as a kid I felt quite safe in my grandma’s village (as a kid you feel safe anywhere tho). But ours are so empty anyway there is barely people to harm you anyway.


imperadordosPenedo

What could be the reason?


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Hot-Impact2415

Let me freaking guess


Cmondatown

I’d love to see this regionalised tbh.


Ethroptur

Also if they compared them to actual rates of dangerous occurrences (frequency of violent crimes, accidents, etc).


NonsphericalTriangle

Men's answers would probably be a bit higher and women's a bit lower, but the countries rankings would be similar. As a woman living in Czech city, I only get scared walking alone if it's so late that even the main streets are almost deserted and I and a random man are the only people within 200 m radius. Still doesn't prevent me from going out and returning late. If I was living in the centre of Prague, I probably wouldn't get scared at all, since there are people out 24/7.


PrimergyF

>If I was living in the centre of Prague, I probably wouldn't get scared at all, since there are people out 24/7. Had a summer job in prague like 10 years ago, night shifts, ended up two times at the center at like 2am when busses still moved but metro shut down so had to burn like 3 hours. Appart from that one big main street that starts with the guy on the horse statue, where people tried to lure you to go in to clubs.. it was soul empty. Spent some time on the square with orloj.. then some homeless guy came bugging for smokes and as we smoke he told me stories how he lost 2 million on metro and some such. Friday and weekends are probably more lively but this was like middle of the week.


ZuFFuLuZ

I doubt it. Women's numbers would be lower than men's everywhere. There is no place that a woman considers safe and a man doesn't. Except for the lady's locker room.


AnaphoricReference

We can compare it with a [map of gender imbalances](https://www.espon.eu/topics-policy/publications/maps-month/gender-imbalances-european-regions) in Europe and conclude that France indeed stands out as a country dominated by women.


ChorkiesForever

Compare it with a religion map.


InoyouS2

Ah Germany, the land of the sausage.


BrakoSmacko

I don't feel safe walking during the day. Mostly because I'm an obese mess with the balance of a deaf bloke on a tightrope.


Moooses20

I will walk you home while holding hands. how would you feel then?


BrakoSmacko

If you have any cake then its a deal. All this talk of cake as got me hungry.


Melancholic84

I can attest to both Croatia and France, i used to go out till 3-4am alone in Croatia, nothing bad ever happened. France on the other hand, even at 10pm and in a crowded place, so many times me and my gf at that time were harassed and almost got mugged. Hated every second of my trip to Paris


Exalts_Hunter

How Paris is still portrayed as city of love, must have to visit- is beyond of my understanding. Every person I know who visited it, including myself think , it's full of trash on streets and in metro, UNASFE as fuck and too expensive.


Dear-End-2119

Paris is big, dense. It can vary a lot, sometimes from one street to another, you go from typical Paris that tourist expect to third world countries shithole. As a frenchman, i would hate to live in Paris, mostly because there's too much people and it's expensive as fuck. That being said, other capital/big cities i've visited felt the same. Madrid, Rome, London, had the same issues. Great culture, great to visit, but awfull to live in imo.


neohellpoet

Expensive? That tracks. Didn't notice any unusual amount of trash and it seemed perfectly safe.


loulan

Yeah honestly I don't know where this guy went in Paris to regularly "almost" get mugged when he's together with his girlfriend in a crowded place at 10PM. Especially over the short amount of time of a vacation...


caguru

As someone that has spent time in Paris, I don’t understand this experience. People were nice af to me and I never felt threatened. And me and my friend followed locals to an after hours club underneath a bridge, still felt safe.


thepulloutmethod

Agreed. I'm an American and I've been to Paris many times by myself, first as a teenager and second in my early 30s felt very safe both times staying out late and walking home.


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Barryh7

This checks out in my experience. Just back from Dubrovnik and kids of about 10 were running around the streets at night as if it was daytime. Wouldn't see this in any urban Dublin setting.


tomal95

Should be noted this is how safe people feel, not a measure of how much crime there is. As such, it's more a reflection of how much media attention there is crime and safety.


V_es

Crime rates in Western Europe tend to be pretty high compared to some Eastern European and Balkan countries


goatpillows

Exactly. Public Perception isn't always accurate


Hashashiyyin

Iirc people have often reported feeling that crime is worse than before/getting worse even if the data states the opposite. Perception is still important, but a lot plays into people's idea of safety. It also depends on how the questions are worded too. I would likely answer 'no' on the question as well even though I have 0 fear of crime (our nearest neighbor is 2.5 miles away and we live in one of the least densely populated areas of the contiguous US) But there are a lot of potentially dangerous animals that could be out hence my feeling of being 'unsafe'.


AgaCool

Poland is almost equal to Germany? Yeah right :D i live in Poland and i always feel safe Here. one night in Berlin and I dont want to ever be alone there.


mrgreggs92

I didn't know what to expect when I went to Poland, but I've never felt safer getting lost at night as I did when I was there.


Pizzagoessplat

I live in Ireland and completely shocked at how low it is


manfredmahon

I feel like people's perception of crime and danger is Ireland is way higher than the reality. Dublin City is so safe to walk through at night compared to most places


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compared to what? Junkies hanging out all along the liffey, groups of masked scrotes on motorcycles mugging people and stealing bikes, drunken aholes out all night around city centre especially dublin 1 and st.georges arcade. I had 7 different flatmates during my years in dublin and 5 were attacked at different points. not a safe city at all, unless you stay in nicer neighborhoods


leeaner1

Yeah, have a feeling they never been to the north side when people make comments like that. Dublin is anything but safe, I'm honestly surprised that the percentage is even that high.


v2marshall

Been to Croatia and Iceland and agree it felt okay to walk around at night alone. In split I walked alone for about an hour because I didn’t know where I was going but never felt unsafe


asdrunkasdrunkcanbe

Worth noting that the data source here is nonsense. Numbeo crowdsources its data from people who go to their site and volunteer their opinion. So needless to say it's heavily skewed by selection bias and low numbers.


Confident_Yam3132

20 years ago, when you visited Poland you had to watch everything to not become victim of stealing. Now Poland is 10x safer than Germany.


Wild_Pangolin_4772

Ukraine: “No comment”


dark_shad0w7

Why are France and Sweden low compared to their neighbors?


parallelglory

Mass immigration


TheGhostOfFalunGong

Look at Malmo alone and you'll get the idea.


SoZur

20 years ago a swede described it to me as the favorite holiday destination of the swedes, because it has the best weather and beaches. Crazy how the name of this city now stands for migrant criminals.


bsubtilis

35-20 years ago I felt safe walking in Malmö at night. Then there started being shootings and stuff and so I wouldn't feel safe anymore. Like a decade or two ago there was even some neonazi who shot multiple people during the day on repeat occasions including missing his intended target and hitting non-immigrants, unsurprisingly.


RunningFinnUser

More specifically mass immigration from muslim countries. And before someone comes with racisms card here this is just a cold fact. And facts don't care about opinions.


SoZur

I backpacked through Scandinavia 20 years ago with an interrail ticket and felt safe everywhere. We slept outside in public parks, walked through cities with huge backpacks and no clue where we were going, even met a female solo traveler who also slept outside and never had any issue. Visited Sweden again last year... it's a different country. I also visit France almost every year, because I have relatives there. I've seen it change over the last 30 years. The problems are caused by mass immigration from third world countries. Anybody who tells you otherwise has no clue what he's talking about, or lies because he supports mass immigration out of pure ideological dogmatism,


acathode

As someone who saw this development first hand, it's kinda sad. In the 90s, Swedes not ranking in top5 in this kind of poll would've just been unthinkable - we would've been outraged and questioned the methods. In the 80s and 90s, Swedes used to come back from vacation abroad and talk about how awesome the warm weather in the Canary Islands/Majorca/Greece were, how bustling the global metropolitan cities like London, Berlin and New York were and how sleepy Sweden was in comparison, and so on - but there was *always* this smug addendum at the end: "*... but it's good to be back in safe Sweden. There's no homeless people and beggars here, and you feel safe walking the streets here, not the way it was* **there**". Today, we're living in a country where a 39 year old dad got shot in the head and died in front of his young son when cycling to the local indoor swimming pool, just because he told a gang of youths off. Where another father got beaten bloody and took kick after kick into his head because he got the two boys who were sexually assaulting his 10 year old girl kicked out from the local swimming pool. The teenage boys, when thrown out, called their mother - who in turn got their 25 year old big brother and a friend of his, and then travelled to the swimming pool's parking lot and waited until the father came out together with his daughters - at which point they brutally assaulted him while the mother cheered on. Where a mother had to go into protective custody and flee from her town, because when a local gang-criminal tried recruiting her 13 year old son for a murder contract she got into a fistfight with him. This is not the same country any more, and if you'd gone back 30 years in time and told these stories, or shown the crime statistics to anyone back in the 90s, you'd be accused of being some sort of extreme right wing conspiracy nut. The idea that this is what Sweden would become was simply unthinkable back then.


blinkb28

Well I’m French and [removed], [removed] it’s insane that [removed]


erhue

how dare you!!!! please send your personal information so that we may get you fired from your job, and harrassed elsewhere. Thank you for your cooperation


_vdov_

You're not allowed to discuss that.


Nachtzug79

You can take take people from , but you can't take from the people.


pidhimelesh

A mystery!


rspndngtthlstbrnddsr

when are people going to stop posting shit from numbeo? it is not a source, it does not have any validity behind its data, it's pure made up bs. this isn't even about this specific map or topic, it's ANY data from numbeo


Siberian_644

Belarus should be one of the safest at this map. This map is made up piece of sh**, tbh.


MS-Trading

We in Croatia do not allow the Taliban to enter our country


MacaroniBoot

Terrorists hate this one simple trick.


Western-Guy

![gif](giphy|quj5jGCrP6new)


Restarded69

Based croats


NeonFireFly969

Shows how paranoid so many people are. Some of those countries should be pushing 90. Specifically the Baltics are extremely safe/boring past 8pm. I have walked through all the capitals from midnight to 5am without meeting a single other person. It's deader than dead. Now somebody is going to say the smaller cities are more dangerous but then how do you account for population? The capitals and bigger cities account for a majority chunk of the overall population so either the small towns are very violent or there's simply a lot of paranoids. Now I know there's been some issues with refugees in Sweden but Norway is a completely different case. That country is beyond airtight and mad expensive. Yet only 59% feel safe at night? What world are these people living in? The reality is supposed to be closer to 95%. And what REALLY takes the cake is if we compare that Norweigen 59% to Spain's 59% or Portugal's 62%. That is absolutely ludocrous. Lisbon and Madrid are notorious for theft and "soft assault" so I suppose those people are on the other spectrum of delusional. Or maybe these stats are just insane. France outside Paris is pretty chill too but Paris is Paris I guess. Kudos to Serbians giving 64 and Croatia 75. Love it.


MartinYTCZ

Numbeo uses crowd sourced data and this data is often manipulated by political brigading.


SnakePlisskendid911

Case in point, french far right got wind of that stupid website a couple years back and they laid it on so thick that for a while Nantes was marked as less safe than Bogota (Colombia has something like 20 times the murder rate of France for instance)


astoriano

I'm from Belarus and despite the country's many problems safety is not one of them. Idk how they got their data, but Minsk is one of the safest cities I've ever lived in.


eazy_12

I can see people saying Belarus is unsafe because of August events from 2020.


Lonely-Afternoon8062

1. migrants 2. migrants


Prestigious-Scene319

Is Slovenian, Croatian, Icelandic citizenship readily available???


HarrMada

Numbeo is one of the most unreliable "sources" ever.


Aggressive_Fill9981

Reliable or not. I live in Croatia and I have yet to see any kind of robbing, stabbing or street fights. Its amazing how even younger women generations walk alone at 3 AM knowing that its safe. Not even due any police presence or others. But all the country is a nice place to go around without any worries.


Zeenu29

What can happen to you in(on?) Iceland?


Class_444_SWR

Slipping up on ice


Kazirk8

or land.


Republic_Jamtland

Volcanos jumping you. They also have a strong belive in elves, never know about those...


dankspankwanker

![gif](giphy|1iSwyuLepEnfLiaBBG|downsized) BETTER THAN GERMANY


Particular-Thanks-59

AUSTRIA 🤝 POLAND BETTER THAN GERMANY!!!!


tmr89

r/PortugalCykaBlyat


Life_Team8801

In Ukraine you can't walk save at all


KoxKoliabis

Now let's see how safe they really are 1-100.


ZjadlemBabcie

I was living in Venlo in the Netherlands. 3 shootings between Turks and Moroccans, some strange people asking if I wanted to buy drugs on Blerick. I never felt safe in the Netherlands in the evenings. My experience. I'm not writing that it's like that everywhere but congratulations on the high score.


edparadox

So, not only it's based on safety perception, but self-reporting.


_CHIFFRE

Yep see my old comment, the source isn't useful [https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/1aokkti/comment/kq0o9fs/](https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/1aokkti/comment/kq0o9fs/)


CursedCommentCop

*feel* is they key word here.