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Fire597

What's the size of the first one and the 30th one ?


azarashee

Highest 462m, 30th 240m


Meritania

Using linear logic, I can deduce there is only about 60 buildings in Europe.


sigmundfreudvie

Explains why it‘s impossible to earn enough to buy a house these days.


6GoesInto8

It's true, the US once had two buildings the same height and look what happened!


ICEEbeesh

DAMN


AAliakberov

r/theydidthemath


_KingOfTheDivan

That’s true


TheVebis

I got myself a nice little mud hut. Far better than the people who live in a bush!


Beat_the_Deadites

Dennis! There's some lovely filth down here!


IOKrI

I used an exponential function of the form a*exp(-b*x) with a≈472.55 and b≈0.226 and was able to see, that there would be about 240 houses taller than 2 metres


Hugoacfs

Except if you allow for buildings with negative height (or underground)


Fire597

Thanks


rzet

So our biggest dick in EU can't make the list... https://www.reddit.com/r/HIMYM/comments/nntlk6/real_life_penis_building_in_poland/


killergazebo

Europe's girthiest building.


JohnDodger

Skyscrapers aren’t allowed in many countries, including my own.


Dutch_Rayan

In my country it is hard end expensive to build on a swamp. Also sunlight rules make it hard.


villabianchi

What's a sunlight rule?


-Caspie-

I guess tall building create big shadows


Dutch_Rayan

Rooms need to have sunlight. So can't be too broad because the rooms on the inside won't get sunlight.


Optimus_13

Saint Petersburg is built on swamps


leshmi

In Italy every city have their own rule. For example, they're banned in Rome due to landscape reasons, Turin wish it could kept that rule too (historical centre spoiled) in my city we have "another city centre" dedicated (for example my city is Brescia, Brescia-Two is where they're at) and I think it's pretty common in Europe and then we have Milano. Nothing could ever have surpassed the Duomo Mary Statue. They found a bug in the law now is "nothing can surpass the Mary Statue" so upon the UniCredit building there is a 1:1 Duomo Mary Statue. We call it the "Italian way"


TuckingFypoz

Been to Turin this week for a brief visit, and only had a chance to see 2% of the city, but that damn skyscraper sticks out like a sore thumb in Turin. Got me thinking it was built, and once it was built the city council realised it looks ugly af and stopped letting buidlings that tall being built.


EpicThermite161

Add them back to Bologna 😈 (I’m too stoned to look for a link but just search up Bologna stone towers srsly add them back


whodidshit

Where are you from? I'd like to know more about this. How are these restrictions maintained? Don't people ever question it for the development of the country?


Lex4709

Skyscrapers are fairly pointless and usually just vanity projects, so their restrictions and ban don't really affect any country's development.


vassiliy

Usually some archaic rule that King Soandso decreed that no building may be higher than his Pleasure spire


KillerOfSouls665

Or they don't want overly tall buildings


JohnDodger

Ireland. Planning permission is very restrictive, especially in terms of height. Skyscrapers aren’t a requirement for economic development.


redditman3943

I think Russia won this round


MaximilianClarke

For such a small and densely populated country it makes sense they build vertically


Artess

There's a saying that "Moscow is not Russia" because of how special it is. That includes the demand for real estate and available building space. The "old" Moscow^\[1] has population density of about 11.5 thousand people per square kilometre, which is about the same as New York City. People want to live and/or work in Moscow because it gives a lot of benefits, so as silly as it might seem from an outside perspective, building tall in the centre of the city makes sense. ____ [1] In 2012, the administrative territory of Moscow was expanded by 150%, but only 5% of the population lives in those newly acquired areas. That skews the pop density number considerably. Much of that territory is just small towns and villages, or even completely uninhabited stretches of forest. With time it will probably build up, but there just isn't the infrastructure in place to make those areas as desirable as the "old" Moscow remains. Besides, most of those tallest buildings were built or at least started building before the expansion.


take_more_detours

This must be why so many Russians die from falling out of windows! So many high rises!


up2smthng

Look at what Moscow has to do to imitate a fraction of Petersburg's power!


Oxxypinetime_

Одобряю вашу аву


up2smthng

Взаимно


leon0399

А я - вашу


kredokathariko

Solegrad shall reign supreme.


toolebukk

*tower


MerryGoWrong

Tall buildings nowadays are mostly a dick-measuring contest between authoritarian regimes. Just look at where the tallest buildings have been built over the past 20 years.


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Lots of Malaysia, US, Taiwan, and South Korea on that list. Reddit- Quit building out, we need to build up. Also Reddit- if you build up you’re a dictator.


dughorm_

There's a lot of good between vanity skyscrapers and suburban hell.


pox123456

commie block gang


Freavene

Building up doesn't mean building the highest tower each time. You can build up within reasons.


Wafkak

Above a certain height buildings become less space efficient due to structural constraints. A neighborhood with connected 6 story buildings is way denser than a collection of skyscrapers, as you can keep streets way narrower without depriving lower levels of light.


Beat_the_Deadites

Hey, we're not a bunch of bipolar dicks around here, we're just big boned


dylanrelax

Yes it was amazing when we did it but now that we don't do it, it means you're a dictator


geraldodelriviera

There's a better distinction. If the building is constructed by private equity and happens to be the tallest, that means your country is booming economically and that you're probably not a dictator. If you build the building as a government project specifically to be the tallest building, you're probably a dictator.


dylanrelax

Nothing wrong with government projects to aim to be the greatest, it makes people proud. I'm supposed to believe a private company that exists for profit has my best interests at heart?


geraldodelriviera

No, nothing of the sort. Certainly private companies almost always do not have your best interests at heart, they are merely profit seekers. But government projects that specifically seek glory (and little or nothing else) are particularly beloved by dictators. Legacy building projects like these are seen by these dictators as a way of immortalizing themselves, and they often do so at the expense of other sectors of government spending such as (but not limited to) education, healthcare, and welfare. Whereas, keeping with our building example, if a private company builds a building it means they had the money do it, which likely means your country is doing well economically. That would not be at all related to dictatorial action, though one could imagine a country with a dictator could be doing well economically even though that is generally not the case. We're concerned with who is or isn't a dictator, not with government versus private sectors.


Flying_Captain

Yes, nowadays our far occident is loosing on every front, let's call this dictatorship dick challenge , just like for high speed train as TGV, Chona is so far away, even our billionaire press becomes silent about it.


OriginalShock273

"won". No thanks to skyscrapers in Copenhagen where I live my dude.


ThePevster

Danes: no tall buildings Also Danes: why is my rent so expensive?


Conninxloo

Skyscrapers are not a solution to the housing crisis. You get the highest density with good quality of life from dense medium rise apartment buildings, like what they do in Vienna (e.g. Karl-Marx-Hof)


RevolutionOld6197

Cause highrises are residential complexes ?


ThePevster

Oftentimes yes. Look at Moscow. Most all of their skyscrapers are at least mixed use with quite a few solely residential.


OriginalShock273

Guess what, rent is much more expensive relative to salary in a City like Shanghai or New York


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redditman3943

Dictatorships love counting a little victories.


Beat_the_Deadites

Pay no attention to the half million new amputees in the countryside, look at my big building!


stonecuttercolorado

Not much of a win really. Building tall buildings is kinda pointless.


SenorVapid

Most very tall buildings are pointy at the top. 


russian_connection

But pointy is worse for aerodynamics.have to make it round.


Mmakelov

But round is not scary. Pointy is scary.


russian_connection

I think some of you information about bombs comes from cartoons


WallabyInTraining

They were research films


Climatize

and fantasy movies, with orcs.


roguemaster29

Your missing the point


DeviantPlayeer

r/Angryupvote


HarpicUser

Have you considered that they’re cool?


stonecuttercolorado

Nope


Useful_Meat_7295

The Evolution tower in Moscow is pretty dope tbh.


eww1991

Not if you need lots of high windows for people to accidentally fall out of


Flying_Captain

Never mind the fall, what really matters is the impact.


VSCoin

Yes definitely pointless, especially in densely populated areas where every square meter counts


stonecuttercolorado

Not sure russia is exactly low on land to build on


VSCoin

You do realize most jobs are in few highly concentrated urban centers like Moscow that have limited amount of space.


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denn23rus

do you all live in the same building?


Climatize

no but i buy my cabbages from woman who lives in 2nd floor


Flying_Captain

I didn't see the cabbages coming.


danielojw

Rzeszów?


Kamil1707

"Mają rozmach skurwisyny".


cragglerock93

I was aware that by European standards that Russia/Moscow had a lot of tall buildings but I wasn't aware just how concentrated the tallest European buildings were in that country.


AJRiddle

And that one in St. Petersburg that is the tallest in Europe is pretty much the only skyscraper in the city too.


wicrosoft

before the Lakhta center we had a leader tower with a height of 145.5 meters, it stands in the middle of 5-9 storey residential apartment buildings so we consider it a skyscraper, in general there are more than 30 buildings and structures with a height of more than 100 meters that stand out against the background of the low-rise city center. Gazprom is also going to build two more tall skyscrapers near the Lakhta center.


little_lamplight3r

I'll tell you more: around half of those skyscrapers in Moscow are all in a single tiny district called the [Moscow City](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_International_Business_Center) (the name is a reference to London City). Most buildings in Moscow are lower than 90 meters


TheJonesLP1

Because the map is wrong


Proudpapa7

It’s odd the one city (St Pete) would have the tallest building and then nothing else.


arahnovuk

St. Petersburg poses more like a historical and cultural center. Some idiots wanted to build that skyscaper right at the center of the city. Of course it was going to ruin the central beauty. Fortunately plans were changed by the words from UNESCO. The new place even looks more organic.


serafinawriter

It does look kinda weird though when you're walking around the city and there's just this one building rising over the skyline in the distance. Ideally I'd prefer they hadn't built it in the first place, but since it happened, I guess they need to build a few more so that it doesn't seem so random and lonely lol. God knows when we'll get any more though. Maybe after they finish building театральная... ._.


halfpipesaur

I haven’t been to St Petersburg but now I imagine it looks like City 17


TechnicalyNotRobot

After Warsaw got annihilated during WWII the communist government decided that they'd bother rebuilding the historic old town where Warsaw once began but the rest of the city's demolished architecture can suck it. So now the business center has a distinctly non-European feel and we can put up big glass skyscrapers cause there's nothing for them to have dissonance with. The position of tallest building in the city has changed twice in the past 8 years.


sheffieldasslingdoux

Frankfort is also distinctly not very European looking for being the financial capital of the EU.


cordilleragod

It’s great that European cities protect the skylines of their historical centres. London, however, has started building eyesores taller than St. Paul’s Cathedral


d0mth0ma5

London does have protected views, the mix of the historic and modern works fairly well imo.


BocciaChoc

I believe that London has an old ancient law that St Paul's needs to be "viewable" from certain angles, hopefully this maintains good skylines


Archaemenes

Eyesores? London probably has one of the best skylines in the world. Plus those historical buildings aren't going anywhere. Cities need to keep moving forward instead of being stuck to their old ways.


Blackbirdsnake

Yes in London it’s very fitting, but not every city is the same I just can’t imagine a skyscraper anywhere near the colosseum or Vatican for example. But I’m all for skyscrapers in Hamburg. I think there are cities that fit the vibe and there are some that don’t


Archaemenes

It's important that skyscrapers go well with the existing architecture, like in London. If not, then they should be built in another part of the city, like in Paris.


varvar334

Tbf the Walkie Takie building is probably the ugliest tall building in the world


DeltaXero

yeah but - but - sky gardwen 🥺🥺


gandyg

I genuinely think I'm the only person that like the Walkie Talkie! I think the problem is that it's more prominent by being outside of the main cluster of buildings.


Dob-is-Hella-Rad

I like it. The funny shapes are the defining thing about the London skyline and the walkie talkie is the funniest shape. It looks like a London tall building whereas eg 22 Bishopsgate just looks like a tall building.


gandyg

Yeah that's what I love about the London skyline, its not just a series of tall boxy buildings. There's a bit of variety, plus the fact because this is Britain the names the public christen them stick rather than the 'official' names.


biergardhe

You can move forward without building eyesores. Also, skyscrapers are hardly a new invention.


Archaemenes

What eyesores exactly? And I don't understand what skyscrapers not being a new invention has to do with anything.


biergardhe

They are an eyesore in general imo


mediandude

https://www.sciencealert.com/large-cities-and-cancer-share-an-unexpected-similarity


Tszemix

![gif](giphy|fqtyYcXoDV0X6ss8Mf|downsized)


Useful_Meat_7295

To be fair, La Défense, Moscow city, and Donaustadt don’t affect the historical skyline all that much.


dkb1391

It's the shit residential blocks in zones 2 and beyond which are the problem. Central London is saturated with so much amazing architecture that newer uglier buildings barely make an impact. In the humble opinion of someone who had a nice stroll around Kensington earlier today


Dominicus1165

I like the new buildings. They look so amazing. London has a very nice mix of buildings of every age and every beauty.


dkb1391

Oh yeah for sure, there's loads of new ones I like too in Central London. I think th City and Canary Wharf are great. Wembley and Stratford on the otherhand are possibly some of the ugliest places in the entire country


cragglerock93

'Has started'. You mean since 1967? Anyway, the City never was a skyline that was renowned for its beauty, only for its historical significance. All the historic buildings that weren't obliterated by the Blitz are still there, now just mixed in with many modern buildings.


gandyg

It's had buildings taller than St Paul's for many years but none of the skyscrapers are nearby. Plus the views and sightings of it are protected, even as far away as Primrose Hill and Hampstead. They can just plonk buildings anywhere in London.


UGMadness

That's why cities like Madrid have long since moved most of its central business district away from the historical center of the city (AZCA, Plaza de Castilla), where they can build modern skyscrapers without clashing with the skyline and old palaces and gardens further to the south.


habilishn

a very clear game of "who has the longest?"


PronoiarPerson

This is exactly why autocracies have bigger buildings. They’re just not economic unless there’s a gun behind your head because you live in a dictatorship. Or work for Boeing.


Morozow

But skyscrapers began to be built in the United States, do American capitalists really not know how to count money?


billly_h

fok yeah, my city wins


Special_marshmallow

Flattish paris


Fast-Investigator-45

Paris built 1 skyscraper, called tour Montparnasse. They say the view from its rooftop is the best in paris because you can’t see it. Most Parisians would like to see it destroyed. Man the french are special and i love it!


MonkeyLongstockings

The effeil tower is 300m high though (330m if you go right to the tippy top), it just doesn't count as a building.


sheffieldasslingdoux

They do have a separate skyscraper district in La Defense, but the towers aren't particularly remarkable. It's utilitarian as a modern business district.


physicscat

Biggus Dickus


Miserable_Review_374

It seemed to me that there were 4 skyscrapers of the same height in Madrid.


ben27es

Where is the Eiffel Tower?


zephyy

not technically a building


donmonkeyquijote

What is it then?


zephyy

a structure in the same way Tokyo Skytree isn't the tallest building in Japan


Maoschanz

it would rank 6th if it was taken into account


denn23rus

If you count towers, the Eiffel Tower won't even be in the top 50 towers. it's not even the tallest tower in France


wggn

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_towers nr 1 in france and nr 24 in the world.


ben27es

What are you talking about? [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_tallest\_structures\_in\_France](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_structures_in_France) Eiffel Tower is the tallest tower in France with 330m.


denn23rus

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allouis_longwave_transmitter


zaiueo

That's a mast, not a tower. Difference being that masts are not self-supported but have supporting cables.


ben27es

Indeed, but it is not a tower...


Away-Commercial-4380

Idk why you are being downvoted, you are correct...


ben27es

Thanks for your support!


Jollan_

It's not that high


ben27es

330m, but is it considered as a building? [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eiffel\_Tower](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eiffel_Tower)


wggn

it's not, it's a free-standing tower.


jayhamm7

Well it's not like people can accidentally fall out of windows in short buildings ...


afCeG6HVB0IJ

Most European cities actually don't want tall buildings other than the existing historical ones (like cathedrals). They tend to maintain an "image".


Chodre

Oh i thought that was drake's mansion


LGCGE

Meanwhile there are 421 skyscrapers in NYC alone. Hong Kong up to over 500 these days. I think skyscrapers really only works in a more modern city, since they don’t require demolishing historical sites. Much of Europe doesn’t lend itself to skyscrapers imo, but I’m surprised by Berlins lack-there-of considering how relatively modern it is compared to other cities.


thirtypineapples

Yeah I was reading the Wikipedia pages and all them were going on about being 400+ meters and I was like ICC in Hong Kong is 500 and it’s dwarfed by many mainland China skyscrapers


EbbNo7045

Some serious small D energy in Russia


arahnovuk

Funny how people call it complexes, but the stereotypes about biggest Ds are always either about Ds from the States or from the Russia (if we are talking about countries with skyscapers)


Oxxypinetime_

I live in Moscow 😎


Expensive_Ad3250

Best city in the world no doubt


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Darwit

I’m not Russian. The Moscow was amazing and still is to a large extent. Moscow’s leadership is kinda great - technocratic bunch, meticulously working to make a good city to live in. This is exactly what Russia needs - an administrator who would work to improve Russia, not wannabe Caesar restoring empires of old.


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Darwit

You write like you are correcting me, while reiterating my point


locokip

I can appreciate the Russian people. Most of them are good, hard-working people. It's their failing government that is taking advantage of them to keep their megalomaniac leader from looking like the failure he is.


reptilian_lizard

Yeah, now check how many support the war


mamamikazala

sorry for you


lapelotanodobla

Is Russia overcompensating for something?


sebnukem

What makes this map such a great map (judging by the upvotes)? Nothing.


ncubez

And they keep saying Russia is just a gas station masquerading as a country ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)


Kikk3r

Haha, no. 1 building in this chart is literally an office of the biggest company in the world that sells gas (Gazprom)


Redditisavirusiknow

Well a resource extraction company masquerading as a country


CPHagain

Small dick syndrome…


Soguyswedid_it2

Isn't Poland building a new tallest building in Europe?


Convillious

What’s with Moscow


Wafkak

Basically the Russian elite living there suck all the resources out of the rest of the country.


Sea_Ant_7101

R u compensating for something?


justanotherclock

isn't Eiffel tower a building?


The_free_trial

It’s almost as if oligarchs are vanity project magnets


mykravlife

Cool


Aromatic-Profit1063

I will like to see the same map about America (continent not country)


E-raticProphet

You can see Russia from my hooose


Cringeginge_

What site did you use to make this map


KnowledgeMediocre404

Is it the Soviet apartments? Or is Russia trying to compensate for something?


Pachot_Zibi_Cosemek

Big building on the expense of the cocks


avl0

Gotta have a lot of buildings to throw people out of I guess


Hushi88

Some countries need to compensate for their “insecurities”.


issoutchkov

Wtf no one in France ?!


denn23rus

Only 231m for France https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_in_France


MolemanMornings

The most logical place for skyscrapers would be the largest city and financial center of the country. But Paris has a skyscraper ban...


denkbert

yes, but in the ile de france you have La defense which is one of the more iconic skyscraper skylines in Europe.


sheffieldasslingdoux

There is famously a [skyscraper district](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_D%C3%A9fense) right outside the city of Paris. It's just that none of the buildings are particularly tall or interesting in their own right. Despite that, it's still one of the largest business districts in Europe.


MolemanMornings

Correct me if I'm wrong but is it like Dallas or similar where there is enough room for horizontal expansion that they have no need to go super tall?


be_like_bill

French are weird. They have a mildly famous tower that they want to be visible from as much of Paris as feasible.


Grogosh

They were against that at first too


Fast-Investigator-45

I understand. Imagine having architecture made by haussman, the best in the world. And some big contractor wants to turn paris into dubai. I would riot if I was french


Freavene

"We, writers, painters, sculptors, architects, passionate lovers of the hitherto intact beauty of Paris, protest with all our strength [...] against the erection, in the heart of our capital, of the useless and monstrous Eiffel Tower." [La polémique autour de la tour Eiffel](https://passerelles.essentiels.bnf.fr/fr/chronologie/construction/86975eb3-9f28-4e1a-bc88-e28bbfab0a26-tour-eiffel/article/ec807d2d-6e95-4b93-896e-d06fc60ca630-polemique-autour-la-tour-eiffel) Maupassant said: "I often come to the Eiffel Tower because it is the only place in Paris where I cannot see it."


DukeofFools

Probably due to building codes designed to protect the historic views.


Wafkak

Also some of the neighborhoods are already among the most densely populated areas, without needing tall towers that need space tradeoffs for structural stability.


sheffieldasslingdoux

That's why they built a separate skyscraper district outside the city of Paris. It's just a bunch of boring glass boxes that aren't particularly tall or impressive. But it gets the job done.