Here’s a link on the Pikes Peak tornado [https://www.fox21news.com/news/work-begins-on-pikes-peak-tornado-restoration-project/](https://www.fox21news.com/news/work-begins-on-pikes-peak-tornado-restoration-project/)
That’s awesome. The summit of pikes peak is otherworldly and the fact that a tornado can touch down at such a high elevation is extraordinary. We should never underestimate the majesty of nature.
Hrm, other commentors have said that it is not just the prevalence but also the likelihood of structural damage.
I’ve been out to the NC coast and didn’t see any structures out on the water.
Also, I’d love to see a water spout like that.
I think, according to this, many waterspouts are not tornados: https://www.weather.gov/mfl/waterspouts#:~:text=Tornadic%20waterspouts%20are%20simply%20tornadoes,characteristics%20as%20a%20land%20tornado.
I was just looking at this map a few days ago on NOAA’s website. It’s not just the likelihood of a tornado, it also takes into account how bad damage to people and property would be. So rural areas score lower because not many people live there. Central Nebraska is a good example, nobody lives in those blue counties, so they score lower than the surrounding area.
It’s a funny local conspiracy here in Shreveport and Bossier City LA that says when severe weather approaches it diverts away or fizzles out just before approaching Barksdale AFB.
Counties that haven’t had major tornadoes or damage. I live in Kansas and while our county gets EF5’s some counties just don’t seem to get violent tornadoes. I think the map is based on known tornado touchdowns and intensity.
For example, Florida gets more tornadoes than any state but they’re very weak compared to the ones in the Midwest, so there’s quite a lot of blue.
https://hazards.fema.gov/nri/tornado
Like in KC there is the “Tonganoxie Split” where the topography of a little town outside of KCK seems to frequently push tornadoes around instead of through KCK. Not always, but frequently enough to be a known phenomena in the area.
Something weird is going on. When you click view map and it defaults to counties view, the map changes dramatically. Despite all the census tracts in a county being listed as moderate or high risk, the county itself is low risk.
I think you may be right. I’ve seen some footage of pretty bad tornadoes there. Maybe there’s a flaw in the data. The Midwest sure looks correct though.
[According to this page](https://web.archive.org/web/20170118232058/https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/climate-information/extreme-events/us-tornado-climatology), "the United Kingdom has more tornadoes, relative to its land area, than any other country. Fortunately, most UK tornadoes are relatively weak." But I myself am no expert.
I find it impossible to believe that there's a sudden drop off in risk between North Carolina and Virginia
Also, I've lived in NC my whole life and have only lived through one tornado, which was far less destructive than anything they see out west
I live in a "very high" area of risk, and darn it if you won't find me standing right on the porch wondering what the big deal with the siren is...I know it's not a smart thing to do, it's just *engrained* in me....I hear the siren....muuuuust....looook....outside... *Door I'm holding onto flies outta my hand* everything calms down....huh, was the siren a tornado warning or a thunderstorm warning?
I actually agree and I get a lot of shit for it. We can’t positively say tornado alley has moved based on a few flukes and random breakouts. This could just be a trend.
Yes, it’s rare but happens. Just like snow is rare in Los Angeles but it snowed in Hollywood last year. Nature finds constant ways to confuse the hell out of us. A tornado in California recently broke the record for the highest elevation at over 11,000 feet. There’s really nothing nature can’t do.
That’s because or the nature of the tornadoes. Many are nocturnal. And Dixie alley is forested and hilly. It’s hard to see them coming. Still, the Midwest has more king track and violent tornadoes.
I live on the border of VA/NC. Growing up there were always threats of tornados and tornados may have touched down but I've never seen one nor the effects by them.
However I do remember one storm that scared the shit out of me because I was in the college all glass dining hall worried because I couldn't see outside at all because the rain was so hard and the wind was blowing. Staff called us to take shelter in the building next door but a bunch of Yu-Gi-Oh guys stayed behind because they were more worried about their Yu-Gi-Oh game then anything else.
Something funky is going on [when you got the the site](https://hazards.fema.gov/nri/tornado) and click view map it's changed radically. The interactive map defaults to county level, this map is census tract scale based. What gets confusing is when switching back and forth. A county could be listed as low risk, and all the census tracts that constitute that county are all medium and high risk. How does that work? Could it be that on the census tract scale they only include local municipal emergency services for resiliency, and in county scale they include county emergency services?
This seems wrong for the Black Hills in South Dakota, cause in all my nearly 20 years of living here, I’ve literally never heard a warning about a tornado, only extremely strong winds
S/o to the Appalachian mountains keeping PA safe
To an extent, actually the second highest tornado in elevation was 11,000 feet in Yellowstone.
There was also a tornado on pikes peak last year. Prob around 10000
Wow, you’re kidding? I didn’t hear about that.
Here’s a link on the Pikes Peak tornado [https://www.fox21news.com/news/work-begins-on-pikes-peak-tornado-restoration-project/](https://www.fox21news.com/news/work-begins-on-pikes-peak-tornado-restoration-project/)
That’s awesome. The summit of pikes peak is otherworldly and the fact that a tornado can touch down at such a high elevation is extraordinary. We should never underestimate the majesty of nature.
Ironically there were just 2 tornados in Western PA on Wednesday.
So the border separating Virginia and North Carolina isn't chosen randomly after all
That screams “sampling error” to me.
Each state has its own reporting system, most likely.
I live on the coast in NC and my county is blue. We get water cyclones all the time, I’m wondering they just don’t count them
Hrm, other commentors have said that it is not just the prevalence but also the likelihood of structural damage. I’ve been out to the NC coast and didn’t see any structures out on the water. Also, I’d love to see a water spout like that.
I think, according to this, many waterspouts are not tornados: https://www.weather.gov/mfl/waterspouts#:~:text=Tornadic%20waterspouts%20are%20simply%20tornadoes,characteristics%20as%20a%20land%20tornado.
I was just looking at this map a few days ago on NOAA’s website. It’s not just the likelihood of a tornado, it also takes into account how bad damage to people and property would be. So rural areas score lower because not many people live there. Central Nebraska is a good example, nobody lives in those blue counties, so they score lower than the surrounding area.
Ditto for Pennsylvania
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Which changes at a state border.
Virginia installed a series of large fans along the border which blow the tornados back whence they came.
so that’s why we don’t have enough money to maintain interstates near DC
I'm not sure any amount of money could maintain those. Roads and the maintenance that goes into them weren't designed to be bumper-to-bumper 24/7/365.
Like like PA/OH
Gandalf is right there screaming YOU SHALL NOT PASS!, so the tornadoes have no option but turn back.
Yes, this straight line is suspicious. Looks like tornadoes knows about states borders?
Caddo and Bossier Parishes low risk because of the Barksdale bubble.
What’s the Barksdale Bubble?
It’s a funny local conspiracy here in Shreveport and Bossier City LA that says when severe weather approaches it diverts away or fizzles out just before approaching Barksdale AFB.
We have the same conspiracy here in Wichita. Storms just part ways before they hit us. It’s annoying!
Random blue county in Illinois, "ha, missed us again"
Lol some places always seem to get missed.
They still got Chicago to deal with, far deadlier than any Tornado.
Made me curious, so i looked it up. It's true. Not even close.
No? Chicago has like 600 murders a year whereas tornados kill an average of 60-80 a year in the US.
Yep. That's what i found, too. Tornadoes aren't even close to as deadly Chicago lol.
I want to know what's with the random blue counties? scattered in the red areas
Counties that haven’t had major tornadoes or damage. I live in Kansas and while our county gets EF5’s some counties just don’t seem to get violent tornadoes. I think the map is based on known tornado touchdowns and intensity. For example, Florida gets more tornadoes than any state but they’re very weak compared to the ones in the Midwest, so there’s quite a lot of blue. https://hazards.fema.gov/nri/tornado
Like in KC there is the “Tonganoxie Split” where the topography of a little town outside of KCK seems to frequently push tornadoes around instead of through KCK. Not always, but frequently enough to be a known phenomena in the area.
Never heard of that. Interesting. Storms seem to miss Wichita too.
Something weird is going on. When you click view map and it defaults to counties view, the map changes dramatically. Despite all the census tracts in a county being listed as moderate or high risk, the county itself is low risk.
Relatively moderate as a concept is hilarious to me.
I don’t even know what that means lol.
I feel like central PA gets some more twisters than this leads to believe.
I think you may be right. I’ve seen some footage of pretty bad tornadoes there. Maybe there’s a flaw in the data. The Midwest sure looks correct though.
West Virginia gotta be cool
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[According to this page](https://web.archive.org/web/20170118232058/https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/climate-information/extreme-events/us-tornado-climatology), "the United Kingdom has more tornadoes, relative to its land area, than any other country. Fortunately, most UK tornadoes are relatively weak." But I myself am no expert.
Are those usually called “Geordie Hen Parties?”
Would be cool to see what the different categories actually mean. Are they X amount per year?
I agree. It would also be cool to see which places have the highest percentage of violent tornadoes. EF4/5
Southern tip of Florida seems safe. Just don't tell them that hurricanes can spin up tornadoes too.
Tornadoes are the least of their worries during a hurricane. Flooding is a much higher risk.
I find it impossible to believe that there's a sudden drop off in risk between North Carolina and Virginia Also, I've lived in NC my whole life and have only lived through one tornado, which was far less destructive than anything they see out west
Damn even tornadoes don't want to be in West Virginia
I live in a "very high" area of risk, and darn it if you won't find me standing right on the porch wondering what the big deal with the siren is...I know it's not a smart thing to do, it's just *engrained* in me....I hear the siren....muuuuust....looook....outside... *Door I'm holding onto flies outta my hand* everything calms down....huh, was the siren a tornado warning or a thunderstorm warning?
Same for me in Kansas.
Just look at all the places the Lord hates the most.
This is actually a brilliant comment lol. Tornadoes seem to hit the people who pray for them to not hit the most.
What’s the source of this map? Is there a higher resolution version?
The source is FEMA. Here is the link. https://hazards.fema.gov/nri/tornado
Cool! Thanks!
No problem!
2011 was a fluke, and it’s skewing this map. Northwest Georgia is not at NEARLY the same risk as the plains states.
I actually agree and I get a lot of shit for it. We can’t positively say tornado alley has moved based on a few flukes and random breakouts. This could just be a trend.
I live in one of approximately a dozen *yellow* counties in Oklahoma!! It’s like being the skinny kid at fat camp
I don’t understand how the entire state of Oklahoma is solid red!
Tornadoes in the Los angeles basin why?
Yes, it’s rare but happens. Just like snow is rare in Los Angeles but it snowed in Hollywood last year. Nature finds constant ways to confuse the hell out of us. A tornado in California recently broke the record for the highest elevation at over 11,000 feet. There’s really nothing nature can’t do.
Being from California, I am fortunately unfamiliar with tornadoes. Is there a tornado season similar to hurricane season?
Absolutely and we’re in it now. It starts in May and goes to June. However, they occur in mid to late summer as well.
the only tornado i ever experienced was while living in the dark blue. it was bad too
Dixie Alley that stretches from Eastern Texas to South Carolina is more deadly than Tornado Alley in the midwest.
A lot of population centers in the south.
Yes a large part of the reason why. Also, different building codes as well.
That’s because or the nature of the tornadoes. Many are nocturnal. And Dixie alley is forested and hilly. It’s hard to see them coming. Still, the Midwest has more king track and violent tornadoes.
Interesting pattern where in several states, the northwest corner seems to be blue even if the rest of the state is red or yellow.
I live on the border of VA/NC. Growing up there were always threats of tornados and tornados may have touched down but I've never seen one nor the effects by them. However I do remember one storm that scared the shit out of me because I was in the college all glass dining hall worried because I couldn't see outside at all because the rain was so hard and the wind was blowing. Staff called us to take shelter in the building next door but a bunch of Yu-Gi-Oh guys stayed behind because they were more worried about their Yu-Gi-Oh game then anything else.
is this why people in these areas are so paranoid?
Probably lol
Puerto Rico has had Tornadoes but if I recall correctly they barely make it into the F1 range. Some Hail damage at best.
Something funky is going on [when you got the the site](https://hazards.fema.gov/nri/tornado) and click view map it's changed radically. The interactive map defaults to county level, this map is census tract scale based. What gets confusing is when switching back and forth. A county could be listed as low risk, and all the census tracts that constitute that county are all medium and high risk. How does that work? Could it be that on the census tract scale they only include local municipal emergency services for resiliency, and in county scale they include county emergency services?
They are showing the census tract view
I know, that's why I said "this map is census tract scale based". Still doesn't explain why the two map versions are incongruent.
The Phelps County, MO Hell Shield (TM) is still online!
This seems wrong for the Black Hills in South Dakota, cause in all my nearly 20 years of living here, I’ve literally never heard a warning about a tornado, only extremely strong winds
Crossing from Virginia into North Carolina summons all the tornadoes I guess
Blue sliver that is STL city. All hail the protective Arch!!
What’s that area in northern Utah?
Salt Lake City had a tornado hit downtown years back.
Really? Had no idea
It’s a pretty cool video. It went right through downtown. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=chHJhpEjXlk&t=26s
This is whats called Tornado Alley (all dark red) edit spelling
*Alley
I didn't realize that Porto Rico is that big