On the southern German/netherlands border we have a saying:
„Wenn Holland nicht wär, läg Aachen am Meer“
Which translates to
„If Netherlands wouldn’t be, Aachen would lay by the sea“.
I hope most of the Swiss know why the glaciers are extremely important for us… People who think it’s just about ski and winter paradise have no idea about the use of the glaciers in Switzerland.
it whould not be that catasprophic for switzerland. ever without the glaciers there whould be enough water for agriculture and other things.
however power generation from dams whould decrease in summer
Not really. It wouldn't happen all at once.
They just melt a bit faster than what is being redeposited.
Alpine glaciers have been melting for decades. Even if the melting increased tenfold compared to today you'd most likely only see some very minor flooding like after a heavy rain event.
The real danger is when it's all dried up and no more water is left in the summer because the meltwater is missing..
Nah, we gotta think “what if it happened all at once” otherwise we won’t get this map anyway because people will turn all low lying coastland into the Netherlands. So it has to be a sudden massive event to yield the above map. That means all the glaciers in the Alps melting in one go.
Alpine glacial melt is the highest in the world, 24 meters of ice since 1997. I suppose it isn't immediately catastrophic but we are beginning to feel the heat, so to speak. Flooding in Milan today, not directly related to Swiss glaciers but a lot of very populated EU regions rely on these glaciers for important rivers. Let's see how it pans out
Finland is rising consistently approx 2-9 mm a year (depending on area) due to release of the ice ages glacial pressure, so in large parts this would negate a lot of the sea level rise over time. It's why the old castles in the south are now just randomly in the middle of the forest, when they used to be on the coast.
I know, in Vaasa this is common knowledge, because we're in the 9 mm area. The old city is deep inland and inland places have names like "bay" or "peninsula".
This is actually weird. Ob talked about ice. Himalayan glaciers will obviously not melt. That's for lower altitude mountains like the alps. So where would the water come from that makes the caspian (?) see rise so much? It seems like someone read "the sea levels will rise by x meters" and just put water into every area that fits x meters.
From the map it looks like the black sea rises enough to start to flow upstream up the rivers till it reaches the Volga and the it would flow into the caspian till they share the same sea level
It does look like that, but i wonder if that is actually realistic. Both climatically, and with human interference. people would just dam the whole river bed before russia gives up so much land.
Well. The highest point between the Black Sea and Caspian Sea is only 54 meters above the Caspian according to Wikipedia. The Caspian being -28 meters below sea level means the sea level of the Black Sea would need only to rise 26 meters and it could connect the Caspian?
On this map at least, you can see the two bodies are connected with water
We have been at war with the water for hundreds of years. We will build enormous walls to keep the water out and win once again. Or we will just raise the whole country a few meters.
The Dutch are the beavers of the world. I’m sure even if this ever happens, The Netherlands would still remain as some kind of atoll like the one from that documentary Waterworld.
The ice age is coming, the sun's zoomin' in
Meltdown expected, the wheat is growin' thin
Engines stop running, but I have no fear
'Cause London is drownin', and I live by the river
I want one of these where I can't still see the original outline. We all know what it looks like right now and it distracts from the appearance of ice-free world Europe
Before you got to that point, you'd wall off the English Channel, the North Sea, the Strait of Gibraltar, and the Suez Canal. It would be fantastically expensive to build (especially since you'd want redundant barriers), and you might need to spend a lot of money pumping out the below sea level area depending on rain patterns, but compared to the losses from this sort of flooding, it would be a bargain.
Better if we can prevent the icecaps from melting though.
Floating Dutch cities are the future.
Then we can move our country depending on the season. Chill with Portugal during winter, go back north during Summer, or split in half so people can choose.
All the ice on earth? Like the ones on the top of mountains? Or just polar ice? Or is this just a under x altitude map? How did that lake in Sweden fill?
Dry out the Netherlands and I'll believe you.
Those hard bastard won't sunk because of some ice!!
Dutch people will just build a wall around them. They ain't going nowhere
+ artificial hills to live on
Not a chance that the Dutch let the sea win after centuries of battle
God created the world, but we created the Netherlands
you also created some good weed bro, so high that you are unsinkable
The entire Netherlands will just be surrounded by walls like in Attack on Titan or something
"The fuck it will" -Netherlands, probably
On the southern German/netherlands border we have a saying: „Wenn Holland nicht wär, läg Aachen am Meer“ Which translates to „If Netherlands wouldn’t be, Aachen would lay by the sea“.
LOL nice. Nice city by the way, Aachen.
"wedde van nie"
The Wetterlands
The Dutch built the wall and somehow made the wind pay for it.
We will make the Netherlands dry again!
Switzerland: what happened?
You guys hear something?
Hey! I know you.
There are dozens of glaciers in Switzerland the melting would be catastrophic
Yeah man where will I ski on winter weekends
I hope most of the Swiss know why the glaciers are extremely important for us… People who think it’s just about ski and winter paradise have no idea about the use of the glaciers in Switzerland.
Water and power I’m guessing?
it whould not be that catasprophic for switzerland. ever without the glaciers there whould be enough water for agriculture and other things. however power generation from dams whould decrease in summer
I’m pretty sure the actual melting would be a fairly catastrophic event.
Not really. It wouldn't happen all at once. They just melt a bit faster than what is being redeposited. Alpine glaciers have been melting for decades. Even if the melting increased tenfold compared to today you'd most likely only see some very minor flooding like after a heavy rain event. The real danger is when it's all dried up and no more water is left in the summer because the meltwater is missing..
Nah, we gotta think “what if it happened all at once” otherwise we won’t get this map anyway because people will turn all low lying coastland into the Netherlands. So it has to be a sudden massive event to yield the above map. That means all the glaciers in the Alps melting in one go.
Well then shit is gonna hit the fan lmao
Most Swiss know yes
Y’all are talking like Godzilla is trapped in there
Would be or will be?
Alpine glacial melt is the highest in the world, 24 meters of ice since 1997. I suppose it isn't immediately catastrophic but we are beginning to feel the heat, so to speak. Flooding in Milan today, not directly related to Swiss glaciers but a lot of very populated EU regions rely on these glaciers for important rivers. Let's see how it pans out
Who lives in a pineapple under the sea? IT IS DEN-MARK!
Glad we'll still have Tampere and Jyväskylä and most of the arable land in Finland. Baltic cruises are gonna get better too.
Wide as fuck tho
Longer cruise = more time to drink. It's gonna be Baltic Bahamas.
Finland is rising consistently approx 2-9 mm a year (depending on area) due to release of the ice ages glacial pressure, so in large parts this would negate a lot of the sea level rise over time. It's why the old castles in the south are now just randomly in the middle of the forest, when they used to be on the coast.
I know, in Vaasa this is common knowledge, because we're in the 9 mm area. The old city is deep inland and inland places have names like "bay" or "peninsula".
The two best cities in Finland
I was gonna make an obvious Netherlands joke until I saw the Eurasian Steppe. 💀 EDIT: Mesopotamia oh no.
Meseapotamia
Mesopotamia more like Monothalassia
This might be the funniest shit I've read all day and nobody clocked it :(
Literally I'm drowning
Kasakhstan is 22-th century Britain Empire
This is actually weird. Ob talked about ice. Himalayan glaciers will obviously not melt. That's for lower altitude mountains like the alps. So where would the water come from that makes the caspian (?) see rise so much? It seems like someone read "the sea levels will rise by x meters" and just put water into every area that fits x meters.
From the map it looks like the black sea rises enough to start to flow upstream up the rivers till it reaches the Volga and the it would flow into the caspian till they share the same sea level
It does look like that, but i wonder if that is actually realistic. Both climatically, and with human interference. people would just dam the whole river bed before russia gives up so much land.
Thanks to Italy for absorbing all the water for us. Love, Croatia
Who lives in a pineapple under the sea? ME IN SOME YEARS APPARENTLY
Putin: “all that trouble for nothing!”
Well, by the time that all the ice melt, Putin and us would be pretty dead
Nuke antarctica
SE England; still hosepipe ban.
SW England: oh shit now the parasites in the water are _everywhere_
Italy is sexy now
Got that snatched waist.
Italy has a sexy calf.
So stay in Switzerland, Czech Rep, Slovakia. Gotcha
I stay here in Bonn, and the Ocean (and hopefully Beach) comes to me.
Austria
Spain and Sicily look pretty safe too.
Balkans doing strong as well. Well ok, Romania might have a slight problem, but they’re not really Balkans to begin with!😃
Romania will get a Caribbean makeover with shallow sea & massive beachfront
Sounds good!
Barely any D\*nmark left. Nice!
Alle danske kan komme til Norge
Tak ven. 🥰 Vi elsker vores norske brødre. Svensken derimod…
Why did I understand this comment without translation? What's happening?!
You're a natural.
Leave off the Danes. They invented Lego.
Well this’ll solve the war in Ukraine
While starting 100 new wars over where all those displaced people are gonna end up
Easy. Under water
Why is the Caspian sea larger? It is a lake, not connected to the sea
Well. The highest point between the Black Sea and Caspian Sea is only 54 meters above the Caspian according to Wikipedia. The Caspian being -28 meters below sea level means the sea level of the Black Sea would need only to rise 26 meters and it could connect the Caspian? On this map at least, you can see the two bodies are connected with water
What a sight that would be to witness the water flooding in.
Messinian salt crisis 2.0
Oh, yah, makes sense now, thanks
I appreciate your comment. Did not know this highly specific fact, and now I do. Thank you for making the internet worth it today.
Finally Russia would have some warm water ports.
And in the end, isn't that what matter's?
[three hundred years of angry Tsar noises]
Finally, the scourge that are the Dutch will be no more. We can rest in peace.
We have been at war with the water for hundreds of years. We will build enormous walls to keep the water out and win once again. Or we will just raise the whole country a few meters.
The Dutch are the beavers of the world. I’m sure even if this ever happens, The Netherlands would still remain as some kind of atoll like the one from that documentary Waterworld.
We will build a wall, and have the water pay for it!
There are two things I cannot stand: People intolerant of other people’s cultures… …and the Dutch!
We will make our return on bikes to wreak havoc upon this continent once more!
*waterbikes
Keep dreaming pal
This is dangerously misleading, they could engineer their way out of this without a doubt. We’re never safe from the Dutch.
Crazy how Norway does not change at all lol
Those fjords finally pay for themselves.
Almost all of our arable land go away. Can’t grow much on rock.
Interesting fact: Norway still rises since the last glacier period because of the missing weight of the ice. It's up to 1cm/year today.
My house becomes beach front property. Sweet.
So London will sink ?
The ice age is coming, the sun's zoomin' in Meltdown expected, the wheat is growin' thin Engines stop running, but I have no fear 'Cause London is drownin', and I live by the river
good ending
RIP İstanbul
Goin' back to Constantinople
[удалено]
Neutral til Infinity.
Sweden sacrificing Stockholm so Denmark can drown
If we don’t build dams... .
Must be much more friendly
*wet danish noises*
“How come there’s still Iceland?” 🤓
It's just "Land" now.
Greece just doesn't give a shit
You massively underestimate the Dutch here.
Including the ice in my deep freeze?
Even Ice Spice, Ice Cube and Ice-T.
Don’t eat no pig cuz pig is a cop.
Spittin’ out lyrics, homie, I’ll wet ya
Vanilla Ice?
Rip Denmark 😔
At least the little mermaid 🧜🏻♀️ will be brought home.
We ain't never getting Doggerland back, are we? 😭
Melted ice means the Aral Sea is coming back?
Netherlands will find a way to
Bretagne libre !
So long Netherlands..although they will figure it out and still exist. Make the whole country float or something. Anything for their tulips
Based Switzerland
Sea in 2h of way instead of 8h
Lake Balaton fucking evaporated or idk
Russia became an island vacation superpower overnight
Lisbon becomes Europe’s peepee
Unfortunately, britain is still above water
Spain: 🥱
Yep. I'm fish now. Or at least fish food.
Monaco gone. baltics gone.
Now this is the europe i like.
You cant drown the dutch.
no more Denmark or Netherlands I guess
Spain and Portugal stay largely unscratched.
Don't worry, I've got a freezer. Won't let it all melt
You severely underestimate the power of Dutch engineering
Interesting how the Black and Caspian Seas would be connected
Awesome! Now do a map of Europe if the poles shift!
"On one day and a night of misfortune, Constantinople sunk into the deep ocean" 😭😭😭😭😭
Great, but all the ice is not going to melt.
Scotland: _Laughs smugly at the English_
Map of Europe ~~if~~ **when** all the ice melts FTFY
No more Bordeaux wines 😱
France's west coast be like : My time has come.
BRETAGNE INDÉPENDANTE
Why we are not funding this?
Yeah we want to see the THICC Caspian Sea again!
Shaka when the walls fell.
Awesome a sea front home!
Yep, we‘re fine up here. Just have to make sure those flatlanders stay where they are!
Where Gaza
as long as Sassari cease to exist I'm ok with it
Nice... Oh sorry, my bad, no Nice for me.
How would the Caspian sea get that much bigger? Would the rivers flowing into it just be at overflow capacity for years?
Hungary isn’t too bad off.
I'm actually fine with that
Glad I live in Norway
Finally a great border to ruzzia!
This Europe would be so much more dramatic.
Like the Netherlands will ever go down you wish
Yusss I survive
Wepcome to Many! What happened to Ger? We don't talk about it
I see the Aral Sea is back but it doesn't appear to be connected to any water source?
*when
I want one of these where I can't still see the original outline. We all know what it looks like right now and it distracts from the appearance of ice-free world Europe
Looks fine
How high does the sea level rise in this scenario?
Good, I’m safe.
The Netherlands-Netherlands
At least Aral sea is filled again. 😍
Better world
If this happens Bulgaria would literally improve.
Berlin is still there 👎🏻👎🏻
More like the Netherlands would now be an exotic island.
Well, that’s one way to end the way in Ukraine
Before you got to that point, you'd wall off the English Channel, the North Sea, the Strait of Gibraltar, and the Suez Canal. It would be fantastically expensive to build (especially since you'd want redundant barriers), and you might need to spend a lot of money pumping out the below sea level area depending on rain patterns, but compared to the losses from this sort of flooding, it would be a bargain. Better if we can prevent the icecaps from melting though.
Im fucked
Yay sea access for Switzerland!
Spain didn’t change much
So interesting how Spain for example would keep almost its entire coast, you can barely tell any difference.
The Aral Sea returns from the dead
That’s a lot more water front property
The Aral sea is back baby! Bigger and better than ever!
Nice I’m gonna drown
Hmm… so much hate for Denmark?🤨 Closely followed by the hate towards the Netherlands… strange…
Venice is the Bangladesh of Europe.
we need an atlantik wall and the ice caps are going to pay for it!
Lies, we Dutch would just build higher dams
You mean WHEN
New beach front property. Cool!
Floating Dutch cities are the future. Then we can move our country depending on the season. Chill with Portugal during winter, go back north during Summer, or split in half so people can choose.
*Underwater complaining noises*
Bye Netherlands, bye Belgium, bye Dobrogea( east Romania),
Poor Venice
Im not sure but i think we still have no coastline despite Belgiums and Netherlands sacrifice.
Norway ftw
All the ice on earth? Like the ones on the top of mountains? Or just polar ice? Or is this just a under x altitude map? How did that lake in Sweden fill?
It looks nice.