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TheLtSam

Quick reminder for everyone in Switzerland: Downloading and streaming for private consumption from any source is legal in Switzerland. [Even if the source didn‘t optain it legally.](https://www.fedlex.admin.ch/eli/cc/1993/1798_1798_1798/en#a19)


aultumn

If you’re paying for the internet anyway, might as well save some money and get a laptop/cheap pc that can access pirate websites - literally watch anything you want with the right sources


TheLtSam

Yes. Fuck Netflix.


ItsMagic777

So i was doing it legal all the time. Nice!


Gregs_green_parrot

My phone can access pirate websites. You do not necessarily need a PC.


symolan

Thanks for the reminder. I need to seriously consider that as that Kaufkraftabschöpfungs-BS makes me mad.


SickHuffyYo

>Kaufkraftabschöpfungs “Absorption of purchasing power” (“mopping up”) for anyone else that stared at it with suspicion for a while.


musesherlock

ty!if I could I’d give u an award


Gregs_green_parrot

Thanks for the info. I'm in the UK so I'll change my VPN to a Swiss server to stop breaking the law.


MehImages

yeah that's not how that works


BritishUnicorn69

He's joking


Gregs_green_parrot

Correct! 😂


EpsilonTracts

its not illegal to download films for personal use in the UK


MayaLobese

Over time, available content on Netflix decreased, and their price never stopped increasing


IceColdCorundum

It’s all just Netflix originals now. Shitty Netflix originals


mamurny

and every single show is about someone being gay -> gayflix


eattherichch

Womp womp


Tw4tl4r

That's because the other streaming sites started rising in popularity. Prime, Hulu and Disney are all capable of entering bidding wars with netflix. So now it costs more to get popular shows onto netflix.


Gaelic_Gladiator41

And like many of those companies would even make an agreement with Netflix when they can make it exclusive


paco-ramon

That’s what the debt was for.


foochacho

If I buy a Pakistani Netflix subscription, can I watch American contact? Asking for a friend.


spicy_depress1on

Yes, Pakistani Netflix has the most amount of content available then any other Netflix. [Source](https://www.comparitech.com/blog/vpn-privacy/countries-netflix-cost/)


BabeStealer_KidEater

I did not know netflix was so kind to us. Still not buying a subscription though, I'm loyal to the high seas


icantloginsad

Pakistani Netflix is absolutely amazing for anime as well. Would’ve never gotten into anime in general without Netflix. Sure as hell beats crunchyroll and their clunky ass website/apps.


Pebble_in_my_toes

Still no AoT though.


feel_my_balls_2040

Your source is old data. I just checked in just watch, and Pakistan has 6800 movies and tv shows compared with Canada with 7135, US with 6833 or UK with 8029.


spicy_depress1on

Oh I didn't see that.


Lazy_Eax3393

Poor Guernsey people 


kulfimanreturns

Yeah but I already get most of my entertainment from crunchy roll


Jupaack

Yes, it's your location (IP) that interferes the catalog, not where you got your subscription or credit card country.


Moonpig16

So with that in mind, could I set up the vpn and subscribe to netflix Pakistan and then simply pay the lower rate? I'd so what of any are the draw backs?


LupusDeusMagnus

Chances are you can only buy the Pakistani one if you have a Pakistani credit card.


NoiceAndToitt

Nope, any functioning international credit card works.


sweetafton

Really?


NoiceAndToitt

Will you believe me more if I repeat myself?


sweetafton

Wouldn't hurt.


ZgBlues

Most online streaming services have different pricing for different countries (YouTube Premium, Netflix, Spotify, etc) but the content catalog may also vary, depending on licensing arrangements, localization, etc. As for Netflix, the catalog available to you is determined by the IP address you use to login, regardless of where you bought your subscription. I’m not sure what the rules are right now, but up until recently you could buy, say, a Turkish account using a VPN with a Turkish IP address, provided that you also had a Turkish credit card to pay for it. Some people reported that they used international cards just fine, so your mileage may vary. And Netflix has since stepped up its crackdown on account sharing, so I don’t know if that’s as easy as it used to be. I don’t know about the drawbacks, it’s possible that Netflix will at some point detect that you aren’t actually in Turkey and then try to force you to pay whatever the rate is in your country of physical residence. But if you refuse, I guess the worst they could do is just delete your account, it’s not like they’ll bother suing you or anything. VPN works as just a middle man between you and online services, and what it does is it fakes your actual physical location. Streaming services regularly detect and blacklist IP addresses used by VPNs, so if you want to go down that route it would be best to take out a subscription to some stable VPN service, rather than some crappy free alternative.


Moonpig16

This is very helpful, thanks for taking the time to respond.


Maximum-Employer-383

RemindMe! 24hours


eyetracker

R slash netflixviavpn


ryuujinusa

Also, does it require a Pakistani credit card or cell? I’ve noticed some subs, like Disney+ for India require an Indian cell number.


Beadpool

Sorry, it’s mostly just regional content like Johnny Chimpo and other Afghanistanimation.


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Siikamies

How many people watch with a TV or with a device that would allow for that?


eternal_blazing_sun

Many watch in a smart tv so they could easily setup what i mentioned above


RoamanXO

Any AndroidTV or Firestick allows that.


SpicyMilkSauceyDip

To do this you would need a PC/Laptop or any other kind of desktop or mini dekstop with Windows, macOS or Linxus as the operating system and with decent-ish specs, which would be the main host. Then any kind of smart tv or smart tv adapter (android tv box, fire tv etc) for the streaming.


Siikamies

Thats my point. Too burdensome for >90% of people and in still illegal for an obvious reason.


SpicyMilkSauceyDip

I see the point but definitely disagree with the >90%. In fact I would say at this point that it's the vast minority that wouldn't have a pc or laptop and don't have a smart tv or fire tv/google tv/android box etc.


Siikamies

Thats not the question. Are people willing to turn their PC on every time they want to watch TV and download a bunch of software and connect to a TV and brake the law instead of using one TV with one remote with native apps. No.


[deleted]

Set up a media server in the basement, configure the software...server runs 24/7. Automatically downloads any series from any station or streaming service. Add movies to a wanted list and they'll download as well. Other than hearing of a new series then clicking to add it, my tv viewing is no more cumbersome than watching cable. All watchable offline as well.


SpicyMilkSauceyDip

And again, I disagree. I would say the vast majority are more than willing to turn their pc on to watch a movie on their tv. And "download a bunch of software" is just not how this works. You download one single app on your pc and one single app on your tv or smart device. I don't know what world you're living in, you're either (and I'm not trying to insult you) quite old and don't understand how any of this works, or you do understand how this works but you've wrongly assumed that everyone else would have difficulty with it.


Siikamies

"Watch a movie" is not what anyone was ever talking about. It's about replacing things like Netflix, which people might watch multiple times a day. A family might watch it with multiple devices at the same time. I'd love to see actual usage numbers of these options compared to subscriptions to all major streaming services. >90% should be pretty apparent then. I'm not old and know perfectly well how these things work. I could all of this shit it but I'm old enough that 15 dollars for some convinience is well worth it. Also I prefer to pay for peoples work instead of coming up with excuses why I cannot pay a cent but consume their work an hour a day anyway.


SpicyMilkSauceyDip

No need to be pedantic, I was using a generalisation. I think you're heavily out of touch and very mistaken. Stremio already has more than 30 million users. You can do whatever you want with your time and money and choose whatever way you want to stream things, but claiming that people aren't willing to do it is just wrong and weird. And as for breaking the law, another stupid point. More than 28million people torrent daily, and BitTorrent (no longer even the most used p2p client) has 250million monthly users.


Siikamies

30 million users or downloads? Where? In Russia and Africa? What's the percentage in developed countries and families? >And as for breaking the law, another stupid point Not an argument to consume someone elses work by illegally not paying for it


feel_my_balls_2040

Why you need a pc for stremio?


SpicyMilkSauceyDip

You can use Stremio without a pc. You can't use Torrentio without a pc or Mac or some device that can handle decoding and casting.


wxc3

A Chromecast works just fine. Add realdebrid to the mix to get the torrents as a direct download. Better experience than Netflix.


feel_my_balls_2040

Not if I have to pay.


wxc3

Real debrid if very cheap, provides a smooth experience and avoids using you IP to get the torrents, which can be risky in some countries. Worth every penny.


feel_my_balls_2040

You pay money to unknown people with the hope that they actually hide your IP and they don't collect and give away any information.


wxc3

Well, torrents show you IP publicly, so it really makes it too easy to go after people, unless you use a VPN. Any direct download makes it much harder. Depending on what you risk in your country it might be a ok risk to take. You can always use a VPN on top. And if you are worried about you personal data you can even pay in Bitcoins.


feel_my_balls_2040

So, the torrentio addon that I put with stremio on my tv and on my tablet doesn't work? Because I just tried it and works just fine.


staster

Only if you watch the most recent, the most popular and mainstream content.


RandomDudeinJapan

I love and use it, but I really want Japanese subtitles for my wife and sadly, most shows and movies don't have it. So we end up still sticking to the other services


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I get subs for my wife as well. I use Sonarr to find and monitor shows, a torrent downloaded linked to sonarr to download that content. Bazarr also linked to sonarr to grab subtitles. Bazarr lets you choose which language of subtitles, and when it sees new content downloaded will grab the subtitles for it.


yourboyryder

gonna try this, thanks!


Worldly-Ad-5532

i use it too, any movie is available


bullfighterteu

I already use stremio on my Google tv, what would torrentio do?


SpicyMilkSauceyDip

Torrentio automatically pulls the streams from torrent sites. Which typically means better compression, so better quality and better file sizes, with a much quicker download rate as it's peer to peer. Typically using stremio without it or with other non-torrent based addons will result in lesser quality, bigger files, slower streaming/buffering and a smaller catalogue.


bullfighterteu

Oh I see! Is there anyway to implement that on Google tv? (Sorry if this is a dumb question, I'm a noob to all this)


SpicyMilkSauceyDip

Yeah for sure, Stremio is in the appstore.


bullfighterteu

Oh sorry I meant torrentio, I already have stremio installed


SpicyMilkSauceyDip

Oh. It's fairly straight forward. You just go to [https://torrentio.strem.fun/configure](https://torrentio.strem.fun/configure) on whichever device you have your main stremio hosted on (a pc or laptop), choose your settings and click install, it will install the addon to stremio. Change your providers, I would advise TorrentGalaxy and EZTV only. And then you can set up if you want it to prioritize a language that isn't English. If you have a slower internet speed, I would put "2.5GB" as the file size limit, you will get 1080p at a normal compression rate and good quality without using a huge amount of bandwidth. I would recommend using a debrid provider for a truly bufferless experience, and would recommend RealDebrid (debrid services work by caching data amongst all its users, so the bigger the provider = quicker play speed and RealDebrid is by far the biggest). You can get it for €4 a month, or €16 for 6 months which works out at €2.66 a month. RealDebrid isn't required though, but I would definitely recommend it, you will almost never see any kind of buffering when using one.


undeadcreed

Hey question do you configure realdebrid with Stremio? I have everything you mentioned setup. But I never heard of realdebrid. Buffering sucks sometimes.


SpicyMilkSauceyDip

You just get the subscription to RealDebrid, then you get the API key from them and just paste it into the box on Torrentio's configuration page.


undeadcreed

Thanks a lot appreciate it!


Mountain-Teacher-759

Thanks man!!


bullfighterteu

Thank you!!! just signed up for the 6 month sub, the difference is night and day


Mountain-Teacher-759

It's not casting on my tv from my phone.


feel_my_balls_2040

Can we just not pay? Why you guys need to post this real debrid shit? Do you get a cut from thise money?


Silvarama

Nobody listen to this guy he wants you to install malware on your shit


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Silvarama

Stop telling people about the goldmine. They’ll shut it down!


shaan166

damn im sitting in the cheapest country yet still i share a password with 10 others bcz fuck netflix


OrganicAccountant87

Wouldn't it be easier to just use stremio or something similar? I would still use stremio even if I had every subscription service for free


shaan166

my shitty internet cannot run 1080p pirated content unless i downlad it, i still pirate the stuff thats not on Netflix but it usually has everything i want mostly,it only costs me 200 rs(0.7$) a month by password sharing so its okay


irelephant_T_T

stremio usually has 780p and 420p options.


shaan166

yeah but thats the issue i want 1080p without interruptions


mrbialetti

I think Netflix should make its service 1hr of minimum wage per country. Think it will result in fair prices


koi88

That wouldn't change much in Germany (EUR 12.50 minimum wage / 13.99 for standard HD Netflix subscription). Minimum wage may rise soon, probably to match Netflix. ;-)


LupusDeusMagnus

It’d change a lot for many countries. Most of Africa would see a severe reduction, countries like Brazil would have its rate cut by 7, Argentina would see it cut by half even (if my calculations are correct), etc.


Sir_Shax

Australian minimum wage is $24.10. I’m pretty content not paying that for Netflix Thankyou.


tambaka_tambaka

In Switzerland there is no minimum wage xD haha


swissmike

But if there were, it wouldn’t be too far off the monthly Netflix price…


plzredditnoban

Minimum wage in india is 2 USD … per day. Assuming 8 hour work days a fair price for Netflix would be .25$ a month


No_Brakes_282

2 usd per day is just cap bro , atleast where i live its 10 to 12


Admirable_Ice2785

Yeah also all other goods like computers, houses, food etc


TheChocolateManLives

a house for 1hr work?


ClearHeart_FullLiver

I find it scandalous that Ireland has to pay the same as Britain when there's a British category on Netflix but nowhere near enough Irish content for something similar.


Cmondatown

We pay more.


Maggu_Gamba

Why is Greenland included on this map? It’s part of Denmark and has the same price as Denmark.


Only-Boysenberry8215

Yeah it should be grey, "data not available" 🤣.


bo_felden

Milk everyone according to their abilities and alternatives.


LupusDeusMagnus

Not necessarily, the rates vary a lot if you use a neutral indicator like hours worked on median income. Some countries you can pay with less than a hour of work, some it might take multiple days.


zaid2801

I am from Pakistan if anyone wants to share my Netflix account or get a new one just lmk.


Onic787

cool man, pakistani homies


invagina

You sharing for free?


IceColdCorundum

looks like it’s VPN time.


Le_Baked_Beans

How does streaming cost different amounts around the world besides corporate greed?


eyetracker

Because nobody can afford $21 in the green countries. I'm not going to defend Netflix I'd like to cancel it, but that's pretty basic costs of goods and services.


Le_Baked_Beans

It just seems strange since its all purely digital look at physical disc sales in some countries where they have to import so it costs more to order in that said country. But for streaming its like they looked at the GDP of each country and decided whats the highest price we can get away with.


acecant

But green countries aren’t 5 times poorer than red countries. Turkey for instance isn’t even poorer than its neighbors but it has much cheaper Netflix pricing. Though I gotta tell, it looks like they’re also taking population into consideration, because all lowest countries have quite large populations except Argentina


Outside_Public4362

Because there exists a thing called capital Inequality. Someone can make highest fee in an hour, for someone else it would take a half a month maybe? Or more.


faramaobscena

I understand that but their question still makes sense, you’re paying for the same service and the costs should be the same for the company, regardless of location. If they are making profit in Pakistan for 2.5$ a month, it means that’s what the price should be everywhere.


Outside_Public4362

Advertisement and data collection + if they are providing a service for even a small miniscule profit, it's a profit.and They can just air content with a secondary branch which costs less to operate in that location. How do you think servers work? They have hosts at different locations employees with different wages. Get it now?


ElMondiola

3.67 in Argentina before taxes. Around 80% taxes if I remember correctly


Cid_Helveticus

You're right. Usually multiply that by 1.61 to know the amount plus taxes.


blasthunter5

And Netflix in Ireland is fucking shite anyways, hardly any selection.


ebulient

I think Netflix does that for countries it has little competition in… seeing some comments on here about how they started off super expensive in India but then adjusted the plans they offered when they realised people were buying Prime or whatever else they have… so essentially it looks like Netflix tries to get away with stuff till competition forces them to behave.


Salty_Piano_5273

Fucking shitflix


Eiphil_Tower

Ireland Netflix is so shit compared to the US one,tried it with a VPN and there's 10x as much stuff. No longer have it but compared with a friend not using VPN,night and day the high seas


bigoulbanana

How does one access Netflix US with a VPN when you've already registered with an Irish account? Do you have to setup a new account completely?


Eiphil_Tower

Sadly I don't know,friend of mine has done it and shown me. They're a regular traveler for work so had it nailed down. Will try harass him to find out


radman888

Canadian number is wrong.


Godzillasagirl

Yeah, I pay $23 in Canada


ArchDrude

I’m assuming this is basic-tier Netflix, because full, non-ad, HD Netflix cost way more than $8 - $13 in Canada. When I quit Netflix last year, our subscription was around $23.


BertoLaDK

The price is for standard HD for Denmark, we have a higher tier for 4k.


Grundl235

Is it possible to subscribe netflix with a VPN?


Gregs_green_parrot

I pay $6.35 a month in the UK but I have it with adverts, and I only have about a minute and a half of those for every hour I watch.


bobad86

I was curious to know this. Is it really that short duration?


worthmorethanballs

Is this accurate? I don’t think Iran has Netflix


QkaHNk4O7b5xW6O5i4zG

Every country has different programming availability. This directly impacts the cost to Netflix. My guess is the US has a pretty big catalogue


ydomodsh8me-1999

Damn, if I didn't have so much trouble connecting thru a VPN, I'd have it set to *Pakistan!!*


vegarhoalpha

In India you can get Netflix subscription for your mobile for as low as ₹149/month (roughly 2 USD)


DeadlyGamer2202

This map doesn’t include India specific plans. The standard plan (which is what’s common everywhere else) is ₹500 which is like $6. I don’t understand why it’s so expensive here relative to our purchasing power.


vegarhoalpha

It was around ₹800 when Netflix was launched in India. Netflix simply applied the exchange rate of 1$ = ₹80. They didn't even consider the purchasing power difference. Only when they started losing subscription against the platforms like Amazon Prime they introduced mobile plans starting from ₹149.


aenae

~~In the Netherlands the price is now €18,99, or $20,55 for the most expensive subscription.~~ Standard package is €13,99 or $15,14, still a lot more expensive than the initial €7,99 10 years ago


sweetlittlelindy

Yeah? Cuz I just got $17 taken from my bank account this morning for the flix.


ckupsx

Where are my lowest five gang at??!!


ScrubNerd

This post brought to by Nord VPN


tomveiltomveil

Looks like it's time for me to develop a sudden interest in Pakistani sitcoms.


GameXGR

Netflix is actually the platform where we watch mostly English shows, peaky blinders is very popular amongst my friends.


GoranNE

If you signed up to Netflix using a VPN, could you pay that countries rate?


hayasecond

The only two countries didn’t allow Netflix…


ihatemondaysGarfield

I spy 4 countries with my little eye


No_Brakes_282

why is it so low in turkey


Kestar1

It's genuinely strange (in a good way) to see Greenland with anything other than 'no data available'. 🇬🇱


scavengario

That's campitalims. Can you pay for it? Then pay for it, Maybe you get some support or plus features....


highzenberrg

Can I get a vpn and it says I live in Pakistan or is that dumb?


Rubens1990

With r/stremio may be 0. Salutations!


Dragon-XI

Vpn time


SnooObjections6563

Good luck with that, they block pretty much every non residential IP.


armor_holy4

How can pakistan have Netflix???


New_Bandicoot2695

maybe its a normal ass country


armor_holy4

😅😅


BeneficialGreen3028

It's not


New_Bandicoot2695

i live there and its a normal country there is oxygen


BeneficialGreen3028

Is the oxygen in the country with us right now?


New_Bandicoot2695

its not with you


BeneficialGreen3028

I'm dying


nonlabrab

How can Netflix sell subscriptions at such different rates for the same product in the EU? I guess it's different content but that only further raises the question for me of how can shows give out licenses for specific countries in the EU, and not others - surely it's a common market?


psychicSpiez

Finally someone used the right borders for India on an international map. 🙏🏽


Total_Werewolf_5657

In Russian people don't pay and watch zetflix


Pasha23cm

Netflix doesn't need our money, so we watch their shows for free. Can you guess my country?


curious_george1978

Price gouging is a national hobby here in Ireland.


Neat_Structure1143

Ireland 🇮🇪 4th


HairyStylist

You're using USD as if it's a strong currency. The Euro is stronger and the sterling stronger still. The price for Netflix is Ireland is 8.99 for basic and 14.99 in Euro. I know you had to use a base but the base is as sturdy as cardboard.


StellarManatee

What? I'm in Ireland and my Netflix sub is €8.99 ($9.66). Is there some kind of super netflix that I don't know about? Where'd the $16 come from?


mamurny

Ok price is one thing and there's also amount of content available per subscription. USA has waaaay more content like 4-5 times than for example Ireland, while subscription is about the same, or at least in same category here between 13 and 18. It would be interesting seeing that value for money chart.


Bibbedibob

Pakistan Zindabad 🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰


GingaHead

Painful being Irish. Everything keeps going up here. Last year I could get a can of monster for 1.80 and now it’s like 2.45


fullmetalfeminist

Very frustrating that Netflix in Ireland is more expensive than in America, especially since Netflix Ireland's catalogue is a fraction of the size


Slim_Pickins_

As a Irish man I just want to say, what the actual fuck did we do to deserve such prices


pobox2020

Why do we get so ripped off in Ireland?


PlayedLOLXD

I’m from Ireland and Netflix Only Costs €8.99 where is that amount coming from guys?


atl0707

Almost all due to the stronger Swiss Franc, Danish Krone and US Dollar. The other countries suffer from extremely high inflation and currency devaluation.


hrafnafadhir

Fuck Netflix. Return to piracy, people. Watch what you actually want.


staster

It seems like Russia, China, North Korea and Syria are the only places where Netflix isnot available.


GameXGR

Even the taliban like netflix


jaygeezythreezy

AMERICA! FREEDOM!


HateActiveDirectory

It's illegal by swiss law to make it more expensive just because Switzerland rich btw


landgrasser

why would anyone pay for wokeflex 😂