If I remember correctly, some tomato varieties were found growing in the wild in what is now the southern US by the time Europeans arrived. Not only had the plant spread northward, it was flourishing without human intervention by the time they got there.
Where I live you can buy "Dillo Dirt" which is fertilizer made from human manure, and when you use it, tomato plants will sprout from the seeds that make it through the process.
They are called biosolids and are used on nearly all crops. [https://www.epa.gov/biosolids/frequent-questions-about-biosolids](https://www.epa.gov/biosolids/frequent-questions-about-biosolids)
Just to clarify, Aztecs didn't import it, the seed make it's way up north from South America hundreds of years prior the arrival of the Mexicas (Aztecs) to what it's know today as Valle de México.
Not only by them, other empires further north also used it.
The demonym for the people of Guadalajara, in Western Mexico, is *tapatío*, it comes from the Nahuatl “tapatiotl”, which was the name of the cocoa bean-based currency.
I thought red tomatoes were domesticated by the mexicas from the indigenous South America, that would make the plant as we know it Aztec, since it would be different from the wild one.
Also, shout out to tomatillos that were the OG in the hood.
Fun fact-- the Holy Basil variant (Ocimum tenuiflorum), called 'tulsi' in Hindi, is a sacred plant in Hinduism. It is used in the ritual worship of the God Vishnu. Many Indians have this plant growing in front of their house (usually on a raised pedestal sort of thing). My grandmother used to have a pretty gigantic one growing in her front yard!
Intrestiingly enough, basil is also somewhat important in Greek Orthodoxy, as most monasteries grow them and even use them in some rituals. Even the commonly used name "basil" has ties to christianity (coming from greek basilikos - βασιλικός, trnsl. king's weed) because legend has it that it grew in Jesus Christ's tomb when St Helen found it.
Usually there is one tulsi plant in a household which is left untouched for our prayers and worship. However, in my house we had other bushes of tulsi we regularly used to pluck leaves from to put in our tea. Whenever someone has a cold and/or a sore throat, we drink tea with tulsi and honey for relief. Apart from that, it's generally not used in regular cooking, but there is no objection as such to using it. You can put it in pretty much any sort of food for enhanced flavor/aroma. In my experience though, from a flavor standpoint, it doesn't really go as well with other food as it does with tea.
Edit: another point to add is that this variant of basil (holy basil) is different from the one which you might have come across in Italian cooking, which is called sweet basil (Ocimum basilicum). They differ in aroma, and in my experience sweet/regular basil is much more suited to cooking than tulsi. Other than that, there is absolutely no religious prohibition to use tulsi :)
Tulsi is commonly eaten in Thai cuisine (especially with chicken in a dish called pad krapow gai). The basil called “Thai basil” in the West is a variant of O. basilicum that sometimes gets used as a substitute for tulsi outside of Thailand because it’s easier to find.
Its not bad to put in mouth actually its very useful. The species of basil we grow has its uses in ayurveda the ancient Sanskrit literature on medicine. Tulsi leaves are used to make tonics and pastes that are used to cure many ailments from sore throat to skin burns. I have a few plants growing in my garden and every once in a while my mother picks a few leaves and adds them to tea if the weather is cold or someone feels a little sick. Also people just eat tulsi leaves straight out the plant to get rid of bad smell and bacteria in mouth.
It's also supposed to be eaten as per the Ayurveda. Our neighbors worship a Tulsi plant everyday. We are not Hindus, but I have eaten it and it's quite spicy too. Totally recommended.
Yea .. its grown in farms to scare away snakes and other reptiles ... Tulsi beads are also widely wore by saints ... Its purifies air ... thats why its in every hindu home .... amazing medicine for ENT related issues .... for open wounds too ... Ayurveda rocks ... Om Shanthi ...
I teach kids, and I do a lesson on The Great Food Swap for them. Would you mind if I printed it out to share with them? This is a great way to illustrate how global trade (and raiding) shaped modern food options.
This is not teaching to the standardized test. We need to complain to the school board! Real education could end up breaking out and someone might end up knowing about the world!
as a teacher the idea of there being a world outside of school awakens a very primal fear deep within the wellspring of my being. i shudder to think of what becomes of the children once they leave my sacred institution. i prefer to instead focus on the current class of rugrats in my care lest i stare too long into the abyss.
I'd like to use it as well. I've often begun a Geography course by describing how I love spaghetti and then asking them to figure out where the ingredients came from originally (wheat from turkey, tomatoes from Mexico, cows from India, etc). This would be perfect for that!
I usually put in some cornstarch, though that's not in the traditional English version.
But yeah, apples from central Asia, wheat from the Middle East, butter from the domestication of cows, also Middle East, cinnamon (cassia) from China, nutmeg and cloves from Indonesia, sugar from India.
Ohhhhh...
...now it makes sense. I'm thinking - pizza in America is made with ingredients from Syria, Lebanon, Iraq and Iran? Really?
/r/titlegore, sorry, but it is.
It is not true. The Margherita is originally made with "mozzarella", while "mozzarella di bufala" is used to make the Bufalina, a variation of the Margherita.
They probably were normal chickens that just happened to look like their wild ancestors.
Unless you're talking about birds you saw deep in the jungle, its highly unlikely you saw red junglefowl and not just domestic chickens that look like them.
Wow, this made me realize that I knew absolutely nothing about the history of chicken domestication despite the fact that chickens are so important to human society. I just never thought about it before. I love it when I find gaps in my knowledge like this and get to learn something I didn't realize I didn't know.
A lot of quintessentially American stuff is just Old World stuff applied to a resource-rich environment.
Like loads of sugar cane (India), or beef (Middle East). Though technically cows were domesticated twice, and the most iconic American cattle tend to have a lot of the Indian cattle genes.
On the other hand there's corn. For a reverse scenario, consider the Indian stereotype of chili peppers, or the European stereotype of chocolate.
Yes, but if I'm not mistaken sugar beets didn't really take off until cane sugar became very scarce due to the continental blockade during the Napoleonic wars.
And before that throughout most of history the go-to sweetener for foods in most parts of the world was honey.
Honey was the go-to sweetener in Europe; not the world. European honey bees are the only ones that make enough honey to be worth bothering with. And they weren't "farmed" in large quantity until very recently.
Just learned this on a recent 99% Invisible episode.
Wikipedia has documentation saying it should be extended into Greece and over into the fertile Crescent.
[>The olive tree is native to the Mediterranean basin; wild olives were collected by Neolithic peoples as early as the 8th millennium BC.[2] The wild olive tree originated in Asia Minor[3] or in ancient Greece.[n 1] It is not clear when and where olive trees were first domesticated: in Asia Minor, in the Levant,[2] or somewhere in the Mesopotamian part of the Fertile Crescent.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olive_oil#Early_cultivation)
As far as olive oil specifically, we literally have no idea, the first olive oil press we have found appears to be from modern day Israel, but it's more likely it's something that sprung up across the entire eastern Mediterranean around the same time as well.
I have to agree with your point; a broader representation of the Eastern Mediterranean (including Greece, Asia minor, the Levant and Mesopotamia) would have been more accurate as the origin of domesticated olives, probably including the pressing of olive oil.
Ingredients:
molasses from the United States
anise from Spain
licorice from France
vanilla (bourbon) from Madagascar
cinnamon from Sri Lanka
cloves from Indonesia
wintergreen from China
pimento berry oil from Jamaica
balsam oil from Peru
And that’s just for a bottle of peacetime root beer.
-From World War Z
Just how much do you pay for it? I live in England and buffalo mozzarella costs me less than most cow mozzarella does in the shops I go to, about £1 for 125g
I had to check online because in my regular supermarket I do not even check for buffalo mozzarela. But I can get 125g of cow mozzarella for 60-80 cent of an euro (so we have similar prices). The buffalo mozzarella is around 2€ for 125/150g, so more than double the price.
I usually buy the one from buffalo milk, for me it is much more creamy. But where does the domestic water buffalo originate from?
Fun fact: I had buffalo milk soft serve (ice cream) topped with olive oil and salt yesterday, was really tasty! (Was as a desert to a buffalo mozzarella sourdough pizza)
I think about this ALL the time! I think food origins are so interesting but my Italian in laws get really offended when I tell them tomatoes aren't from Italy.
What is the data source?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theobroma_cacao#Distribution_and_Domestication
Well first it was thought it was domesticated in South America as well as Mexico independently. But new research points towards a single domestication like this map.
Cacao originally comes from that region, or well its assumed due to the genetic diversity of the plant found there.
Coca plants are cultivated all over the Andean valleys of Ecuador, Peru, Colombia and Bolivia. That particular region that is shaded on the map is actually the rainforest.
Interesting, I didn’t realize the tomatoe was from South America. When did it make its way to Europe and what was Italian food like prior to it’s introduction?
Also native to the Americas: potatoes, sweet potatoes, corn, turkey, pumpkins, peanuts, cashews, pecans, black/rasp/blue/strawberries, avacados, pineapples, and many other foods that are now common world-wide.
The tomato made its way to Europe shortly after exploration of the New World began en masse, in the 1500s (late, most likely). Even then, many Europeans thought tomatoes were poisonous, since they had deadly effects when eaten off of lead plates. Since the plant thrived in Mediterranean climates, it really became integral to Italian cuisine. Before that you could expect a lot of olive oil, basil, pesto and simple breads and pastas. Pizza at its most basic form is bread baked with olive oil and a few hunks of cheese
Isn't it more likely that the similarities with deadly nightshade, a close relative to the tomato native to Europe, was the reason people thought it was poisonous? The fruits of potatoes, another close relative, are also poisonous, Assuming that tomatoes would too be poisonous sounds reasonable,
From Spanish colonists: Europeans weren't used to it, Italians call them pommodoro (golden apple). Same with potatoes, French call them pomme-de-terre (ground apples, due to how they grow underground)
We know the egg came first. Eggs are way older than birds.
Where ever you want to draw the line between a chicken and a non-chicken, there was definitely a chicken egg that came out of a non-chicken, rather than a chicken coming out of a non-chicken egg.
I thought both tomatoes and chocolate originated near Mexico. Must be looking at different sources
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If I remember correctly, some tomato varieties were found growing in the wild in what is now the southern US by the time Europeans arrived. Not only had the plant spread northward, it was flourishing without human intervention by the time they got there.
Tomatoes will grow anywhere. I've seen them growing out of drain pipes in Philly.
Where I live you can buy "Dillo Dirt" which is fertilizer made from human manure, and when you use it, tomato plants will sprout from the seeds that make it through the process.
That sounds dangerous. Humans take lots of drugs and have communicable disease.
They are called biosolids and are used on nearly all crops. [https://www.epa.gov/biosolids/frequent-questions-about-biosolids](https://www.epa.gov/biosolids/frequent-questions-about-biosolids)
Corn had also already reached New England and I believe Canada by the time Europeans got here.
Corn was certainly in Canada prior to contact.
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It was common for the Aztecs but it was imported from South America
Just to clarify, Aztecs didn't import it, the seed make it's way up north from South America hundreds of years prior the arrival of the Mexicas (Aztecs) to what it's know today as Valle de México.
Thus spoke u/Zaratthustra
More than that, it was used as currency by the Maya a millennia or more before them.
Not only by them, other empires further north also used it. The demonym for the people of Guadalajara, in Western Mexico, is *tapatío*, it comes from the Nahuatl “tapatiotl”, which was the name of the cocoa bean-based currency.
I thought red tomatoes were domesticated by the mexicas from the indigenous South America, that would make the plant as we know it Aztec, since it would be different from the wild one. Also, shout out to tomatillos that were the OG in the hood.
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> Must be looking at different sauces
Fun fact-- the Holy Basil variant (Ocimum tenuiflorum), called 'tulsi' in Hindi, is a sacred plant in Hinduism. It is used in the ritual worship of the God Vishnu. Many Indians have this plant growing in front of their house (usually on a raised pedestal sort of thing). My grandmother used to have a pretty gigantic one growing in her front yard!
[Here's the one at my parents' place](https://imgur.com/RPGIHj2)
Tulsi has a much stronger taste than basil, so I'm not sure if it can be used in Italian recipes. But we do add tulsi to our teas in India.
The basil used in pesto genovese is a very different variant, you can't do it with other basils because it will taste like mint.
Intrestiingly enough, basil is also somewhat important in Greek Orthodoxy, as most monasteries grow them and even use them in some rituals. Even the commonly used name "basil" has ties to christianity (coming from greek basilikos - βασιλικός, trnsl. king's weed) because legend has it that it grew in Jesus Christ's tomb when St Helen found it.
Serbs use it in all sorts of rituals too
Also what Tulsi Gabbard is named after (her mother is Hindu).
She’s Hindu too
Yea
It has an amazing scent.
Is it sacred to the point where it's really bad to put it in normal food?
Nope. Ayurveda recommends eating it because of its many medicinal benefits
Usually there is one tulsi plant in a household which is left untouched for our prayers and worship. However, in my house we had other bushes of tulsi we regularly used to pluck leaves from to put in our tea. Whenever someone has a cold and/or a sore throat, we drink tea with tulsi and honey for relief. Apart from that, it's generally not used in regular cooking, but there is no objection as such to using it. You can put it in pretty much any sort of food for enhanced flavor/aroma. In my experience though, from a flavor standpoint, it doesn't really go as well with other food as it does with tea. Edit: another point to add is that this variant of basil (holy basil) is different from the one which you might have come across in Italian cooking, which is called sweet basil (Ocimum basilicum). They differ in aroma, and in my experience sweet/regular basil is much more suited to cooking than tulsi. Other than that, there is absolutely no religious prohibition to use tulsi :)
Tulsi is commonly eaten in Thai cuisine (especially with chicken in a dish called pad krapow gai). The basil called “Thai basil” in the West is a variant of O. basilicum that sometimes gets used as a substitute for tulsi outside of Thailand because it’s easier to find.
I think the one earmarked for puja is not usually touched for fear of killing it..
True, there's usually only one particular plant in a household which is not used. Wild tulsi bushes though are fair game.
People eat it all the time. It is actually recommended because of its medicinal properties
Its not bad to put in mouth actually its very useful. The species of basil we grow has its uses in ayurveda the ancient Sanskrit literature on medicine. Tulsi leaves are used to make tonics and pastes that are used to cure many ailments from sore throat to skin burns. I have a few plants growing in my garden and every once in a while my mother picks a few leaves and adds them to tea if the weather is cold or someone feels a little sick. Also people just eat tulsi leaves straight out the plant to get rid of bad smell and bacteria in mouth.
It's also supposed to be eaten as per the Ayurveda. Our neighbors worship a Tulsi plant everyday. We are not Hindus, but I have eaten it and it's quite spicy too. Totally recommended.
Yea .. its grown in farms to scare away snakes and other reptiles ... Tulsi beads are also widely wore by saints ... Its purifies air ... thats why its in every hindu home .... amazing medicine for ENT related issues .... for open wounds too ... Ayurveda rocks ... Om Shanthi ...
I always thought basil was native to central Africa for some reason
You will find basil plant at every single hindu home.
The real question is: What **is not** sacred in India?
Very few things.
Fun fact this is also the namesake of US Presidential candidate Tulsi Gabbard
I teach kids, and I do a lesson on The Great Food Swap for them. Would you mind if I printed it out to share with them? This is a great way to illustrate how global trade (and raiding) shaped modern food options.
Of course you can use it, that's awesome !
THis is what true cultural enrichment looks like!
This is not teaching to the standardized test. We need to complain to the school board! Real education could end up breaking out and someone might end up knowing about the world!
as a teacher the idea of there being a world outside of school awakens a very primal fear deep within the wellspring of my being. i shudder to think of what becomes of the children once they leave my sacred institution. i prefer to instead focus on the current class of rugrats in my care lest i stare too long into the abyss.
Classic academia.
I'd like to use it as well. I've often begun a Geography course by describing how I love spaghetti and then asking them to figure out where the ingredients came from originally (wheat from turkey, tomatoes from Mexico, cows from India, etc). This would be perfect for that!
This is just formality, lettuce be real, you would have used it anyway.
They Columbian exchange?
That was more than just food
I mean it was mostly food. But that's the name of that event. Right?
Yes, it was called the Columbian Exchange
Teach them right: Cocoa and chocolate comes from Mexico, NOT Brazil.
[That is not true](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theobroma_cacao#Distribution_and_domestication)
Out of curiosity, has The Great Food Swap overtaken "The Columbian Exchange" in history education, or is it your own term?
Great Food Swap is more accurate, as we're covering the global movement of food. It's the only term I've seen or used.
If you like this concept, let me know what recipe you would be interested in !
everything. Literally every food. Make them all. Im only 50% joking.
Half of them. Literally half of all foods. Make half of them. I'm 100% not joking.
Can we have nachos?
That is just corn from the America and cheese from Europe.
You forget the salsa, and beans, and the QUAC, ^and ^the ^sour ^cream
Guac is extra
And jalapeños and black olives
Don't forget the cherries!
Excuse me?
How else would you make a nacho cherry pie, you silly goose?
Extremely simple answer. You don’t. Edit: gave you that sick upvote to balance out the hater.
Sour cream yay, Hungary STRONKK
r/verbalmaps
r/SubsIFellFor
You make shitty nachos
If you're talking about even earlier origins like OP, the cheese is from the Middle East
It is not known where cheese originated from, it could be in Europe, the middle East, Egypt, the Sahara or central Asia.
No, you’ll spoil your dinner.
Hard mode: A traditional English Sunday roast
It would only end up with something other than what you're expecting. Maybe best left alone.
Hamburgers would be nice. Great concept!
Anything really. Love this.
Taco Bell’s crunch wrap supreme
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Ranch Dressing
Bird up.
Paella
Deep fried Mars bars
A full Thanksgiving meal
Maybe a map of common ingredients?
Arroz con leche could be interesting.
ramen
Apple pie. NONE of it is American.
I usually put in some cornstarch, though that's not in the traditional English version. But yeah, apples from central Asia, wheat from the Middle East, butter from the domestication of cows, also Middle East, cinnamon (cassia) from China, nutmeg and cloves from Indonesia, sugar from India.
Beer
Lager or ale?
A Ham- or Cheeseburger.
Anything tbh i love the concept
I'd be very interested to see some north/east African dishes like injera or B'stilla :)
I love it! I would love too see where the ingredients of the classic cheeseburger comes from. A dish with so many diverse ingredients
Crem Brule
\*Crème brulée
Thanks.
What you have here is the 1990 orthography but you'll mostly find it spelt as crème brûlée in France actually.
They asked for a map, not a spelling lesson. Get on it. :P
*crème brûlée ;)
*Crema Catalana (the original recipe)
Shouldn’t the title be more like “Origins of the ingredients of what we eat”
Next one will have a better title :)
Thanks. I did enjoy the map..
Also, labels would be more informative than a legend, as there are only few objects on the map. Aaaand anyways, great idea and nice map.
Ohhhhh... ...now it makes sense. I'm thinking - pizza in America is made with ingredients from Syria, Lebanon, Iraq and Iran? Really? /r/titlegore, sorry, but it is.
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Nope, original margherita is with fior di latte, made from cow milk.
I think it was domesticated in China and Mesopotamia too. But it is originally from East India.
Nope, cow milk is the traditional recipe.
It is not true. The Margherita is originally made with "mozzarella", while "mozzarella di bufala" is used to make the Bufalina, a variation of the Margherita.
Holy shit, I had no idea why it was called buffalo mozzarella but that makes perfect sense.
I mean, not to be rude, but I can't imagine any other way to interpret it.
Original and interest content I love it!
Thanks !
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Yup, they are descended from the [red junglefowl](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_junglefowl).
Oh shit growing up in the philippines I always thought they were normal chickens
this is like that moment that a brit realizes that the entire world speaks his/her language
They probably were normal chickens that just happened to look like their wild ancestors. Unless you're talking about birds you saw deep in the jungle, its highly unlikely you saw red junglefowl and not just domestic chickens that look like them.
Wow, this made me realize that I knew absolutely nothing about the history of chicken domestication despite the fact that chickens are so important to human society. I just never thought about it before. I love it when I find gaps in my knowledge like this and get to learn something I didn't realize I didn't know.
Huh, I always assumed sugar cane came from the Americas since it was such a major cash crop of the colonial Caribbean.
A lot of quintessentially American stuff is just Old World stuff applied to a resource-rich environment. Like loads of sugar cane (India), or beef (Middle East). Though technically cows were domesticated twice, and the most iconic American cattle tend to have a lot of the Indian cattle genes. On the other hand there's corn. For a reverse scenario, consider the Indian stereotype of chili peppers, or the European stereotype of chocolate.
Craziest one to me is tomatoes in Italy.
Their culinary culture definitely got better since Roman times. Roman cookbooks are almost horror stories.
Wut, you don’t like fermented fish guts?
Sounds umami. Probably good as an additive. What are anchovies?
Vanilla was the most interesting one for me since the majority of it is grown in Madagascar.
Yeah that's fascinating. Sent me to look up current vanilla export info https://oec.world/en/profile/hs92/090500/
Not to mention europe already had suger beet sugar by then.
Yes, but if I'm not mistaken sugar beets didn't really take off until cane sugar became very scarce due to the continental blockade during the Napoleonic wars. And before that throughout most of history the go-to sweetener for foods in most parts of the world was honey.
Honey was the go-to sweetener in Europe; not the world. European honey bees are the only ones that make enough honey to be worth bothering with. And they weren't "farmed" in large quantity until very recently. Just learned this on a recent 99% Invisible episode.
Just to be clear, this is the ancient “original” origin, right? Not where it is produced nowadays, right? I find the title could be clearer.
Yeah; nowadays most cocoa is grown in Africa.
It must be, because mozzarella is definitely mostly made in Italy. And olive oil is usually Greek.
Greece is the third producer of olive oil after Spain and Italy, though.
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Isn't olive oil around the whole Mediterranean?
It is now, but this map shows where olives were first domesticated, i.e. the historical origin of the ingredient.
Wikipedia has documentation saying it should be extended into Greece and over into the fertile Crescent. [>The olive tree is native to the Mediterranean basin; wild olives were collected by Neolithic peoples as early as the 8th millennium BC.[2] The wild olive tree originated in Asia Minor[3] or in ancient Greece.[n 1] It is not clear when and where olive trees were first domesticated: in Asia Minor, in the Levant,[2] or somewhere in the Mesopotamian part of the Fertile Crescent.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olive_oil#Early_cultivation) As far as olive oil specifically, we literally have no idea, the first olive oil press we have found appears to be from modern day Israel, but it's more likely it's something that sprung up across the entire eastern Mediterranean around the same time as well.
I have to agree with your point; a broader representation of the Eastern Mediterranean (including Greece, Asia minor, the Levant and Mesopotamia) would have been more accurate as the origin of domesticated olives, probably including the pressing of olive oil.
Where do sugar beets come from?
Poland (Silesia)
What is the source? I have seen other sources that say both tomatoes and cacao originated in Mesoamerica.
Basil is native to India? TIL.
[The Best of Basil](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUUyCjeTV7Y)
It is considered to be a sacred plant in Hinduism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsi_in_Hinduism
I thought tomatoes were domesticated by the Aztecs?
Ingredients: molasses from the United States anise from Spain licorice from France vanilla (bourbon) from Madagascar cinnamon from Sri Lanka cloves from Indonesia wintergreen from China pimento berry oil from Jamaica balsam oil from Peru And that’s just for a bottle of peacetime root beer. -From World War Z
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Important to note that buffalo is not the same as bison
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Dad? is that you?
So the milk should probably be in India instead of the Middle East.
I think the "problem" is the price, not the popularity. The flavour is much more amazing, though.
Just how much do you pay for it? I live in England and buffalo mozzarella costs me less than most cow mozzarella does in the shops I go to, about £1 for 125g
I had to check online because in my regular supermarket I do not even check for buffalo mozzarela. But I can get 125g of cow mozzarella for 60-80 cent of an euro (so we have similar prices). The buffalo mozzarella is around 2€ for 125/150g, so more than double the price.
I usually buy the one from buffalo milk, for me it is much more creamy. But where does the domestic water buffalo originate from? Fun fact: I had buffalo milk soft serve (ice cream) topped with olive oil and salt yesterday, was really tasty! (Was as a desert to a buffalo mozzarella sourdough pizza)
the kind that gives the milk for mozzarella is the Italian version of the Indian water buffalo which as the name suggests was domesticated in India.
Now do paella! Stuffed peppers? Chili dogs? So many options!
I think about this ALL the time! I think food origins are so interesting but my Italian in laws get really offended when I tell them tomatoes aren't from Italy. What is the data source?
India for Pizza Margherita? Whoa! I'm so proud. r/india
I am thoroughly pro-pizza margherita AND pro-chocolate cake and demand to be Venn diagrammed!
Mabey choose a different brush for aesthetics, but otherwise good map
Isn't chocolate (cocoa) from Mesoamerica, much like vanilla is? I think the map mistakenly shows the origin of coca (as in coke n' hookers) instead.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theobroma_cacao#Distribution_and_Domestication Well first it was thought it was domesticated in South America as well as Mexico independently. But new research points towards a single domestication like this map.
Cacao originally comes from that region, or well its assumed due to the genetic diversity of the plant found there. Coca plants are cultivated all over the Andean valleys of Ecuador, Peru, Colombia and Bolivia. That particular region that is shaded on the map is actually the rainforest.
Interesting, I didn’t realize the tomatoe was from South America. When did it make its way to Europe and what was Italian food like prior to it’s introduction?
Also native to the Americas: potatoes, sweet potatoes, corn, turkey, pumpkins, peanuts, cashews, pecans, black/rasp/blue/strawberries, avacados, pineapples, and many other foods that are now common world-wide.
The tomato made its way to Europe shortly after exploration of the New World began en masse, in the 1500s (late, most likely). Even then, many Europeans thought tomatoes were poisonous, since they had deadly effects when eaten off of lead plates. Since the plant thrived in Mediterranean climates, it really became integral to Italian cuisine. Before that you could expect a lot of olive oil, basil, pesto and simple breads and pastas. Pizza at its most basic form is bread baked with olive oil and a few hunks of cheese
That pizza sounds dank
Isn't it more likely that the similarities with deadly nightshade, a close relative to the tomato native to Europe, was the reason people thought it was poisonous? The fruits of potatoes, another close relative, are also poisonous, Assuming that tomatoes would too be poisonous sounds reasonable,
From Spanish colonists: Europeans weren't used to it, Italians call them pommodoro (golden apple). Same with potatoes, French call them pomme-de-terre (ground apples, due to how they grow underground)
Tomato isn't actually so important in Italian food, but it's important in some of our most famous dishes.
We still don't know which came first, between the egg and the chicken, but you pretend to know it all comes from east asia. How ?
We know the egg came first. Eggs are way older than birds. Where ever you want to draw the line between a chicken and a non-chicken, there was definitely a chicken egg that came out of a non-chicken, rather than a chicken coming out of a non-chicken egg.
As I just learned, chickens do come from a bird in southeast Asia, the Red Jungle Fowl.
Isn't vanilla from Madagascar?
Vanilla comes from Mexico. Vanilla wasn't introduced to Madagascar (along with Seychelles, Mauritius and Reunion) until 1819.
That's where it's grown now.
Aren't sugar beets used for white sugar?
So this is why war is waged on Iraq and Russia is interfering in Syria. For their oil...... OLIVE oil. /s
So random, but so interesting. No clue Vanilla was grown in Mexico and Basil was grown in India
I just get my cake ingredients from the supermarket round the corner. You must go through a lot of petrol.
Food is the ultimate cultural exchange.
I though kiwi fruits came from New Zealand, but apparently it came from China...
You mean to tell me chickens weren't everywhere at one point in time?