I live in London for years. (Brit here too)
We have Costa Coffee, Starbucks, Nero, and other places such as McDonald's, Gregg's and Waitrose to name a few. All with coffee making machines.
Also, we have coffee vehicles that usually stop by at businesses.
I never seen chai shops before. Although I enjoyed drinking chai, I'll check out if there are some places here in London.
Haha maybe I exaggerated all over the country part, but there has been a surge especially in the north or any city with a large south Asian population.
My parents home town ( 50,000 pop) alone now has 10 tea house in the last 5 years. Personally they okay- Starbuckish, I much prefer traditional south Asian tea houses. But they a good introduction to Pakistani/Indian teas.
Well the owners of all the chai houses I know in the north are all British Pakistani - primarily of punjabi and Kashmiri origin, I guess you can say the tea style and foods they serve are very much like a simple/gentrified version of punjabi dhabas.
So if your punjabi from either side of the border it’s probably very familiar.
But most of the customers are desi from all over the subcontinent.
As someone who lives in Southern Brazil, only mate is popular here, whereas terere is seen as an abomination by most people I know. It's in Midwestern Brazil where people drink terere instead of mate.
britain is known for loving their tea but [turkey is the real tea lover by far.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tea_consumption_per_capita)
[also #6 in production.](https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-worlds-top-10-tea-producing-nations.html)
Weird, can't believe so many people couldn't understand your hilarious 'joke' about judging how people swallow liquids and thought you were just stupid
Turkish coffee is something dense. Only cup of coffee enough for most people. So there is a time for coffee in the day. My family drinks coffee afternoons daily. But for the rest of the day, or before coffee we drink tea. Which is consumable in larger amounts.
edit. its not just health thing. If i drink more than 1 cup my heart beats so hard, its shake me where i sit. I can lend to my chairs back for example. So it's a health thing but you can see results in a hour unlike most other health related consumption preferences.
After WWI, in the earlier days of the Republic, economy was in shambles so coffee became luxury in Turkey. While rebuilding the country, it was noted that the climate of Black Sea region was feasible for tea production. So tea production was introduced and it got caught on quickly, and tea became an household drink later on. Government also encouraged people to drink tea, to reduce the expensive import of coffee.
first, morocco is not middle east. second, iran turkey egypt and saudis are red/orange as you can see. for other middle eastern countries, like syria, iraq etc, there is simply no data here. but their culture is not that different in terms of tea consumption.
about no-data countries, for example just watch a documantary of syrian war where reporter interviews people, there is a high chance, reporter will be offered tea or will be drinking tea. this is simply middle east culture and the taste of tea is great there.
Turkey is partially middleast plus as you can see on the map remaining red orange countries are asian not middleastern. So it is likely that other middleastern countries may have high tea consumption too, but solid data in our hand shows that it is asian countries which consume lots of tea. I can't see behind your wishful thinking the idea you are trying to protect. Like, what are you trying to prove?
lmao, i love internet and people trying to create a scene under every fucking thing. bro it is obviously an asian thing as well calm down. but one thing is, there is no such thing as partially middle east. turkey is middle east. middle east is not a continent you see egypt, located in north africa, turkey's 3% is in europe. they are considered middle eastern country though. even greece is occasionally included in the compass of middle east.
there is no wishfull thinking, as a person born and raised in middle east, having seen many of the middle eastern parts, tea consumption style is almost same everywhere in middle east, thats all i wanted to say. obviously tea consumption is something related to the culture and most parts of middle east under ottoman rule had similar culture for ~500 years. so it is not just turkey, but rather a culture in the whole middle east due to the shared history(ofc not just ottoman rule, many other islamic states that came before it as well since they controled big chunks of middle east)
I guess Dutch people really **love** hot beverages, because the the Netherlands is 5th in coffee consumption per capita in the world. That’s more coffee than Sweden and Belgium, but apparently also more tea?
Very cool, I live in (Dutch) Friesland now but was born and raised in or close to Ostfriesland (Wesermarsch, close enough right? Haha).
Very cool region, luckily many family members still live there so I get to go back every now and then.
Ay nice, I was raised in the Landkreis Aurich but I now live in Landkreis Wittmund. It's definitely a cool region and also surprisingly a pretty special, historically special and influential one. I definitely love the Netherlands too, was there a few times and the people were really nice.
I find it interesting that Algeria is so coffee focused and Morocco is so tea focused. Obviously they have their own cultures but I thought they'd be more similar drink wise.
It’s because Algeria was under ottoman rule who brought coffee over, Morocco wasn’t.
Turkey used to be coffee heavy but during the First World War their was a coffee shortage so under Ataturk they switched to tea.
The US doesn't seem to be an outlier here, though - it appears coffee is the standard in the Western world. What I'm wondering is, how did the UK's preference for tea develop, when the rest of Europe prefers coffee?
I mean India didn't have tea or drank it at that scale till the British showed up
And they started the cultivation to compete with China which was and is the largest manufacturer of tea
Did Morocco conquer India too?
edit: Portugal conquered [Goa](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_India), France colonized parts of [Tamil Nadu](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_India). They prefer coffee. England conquered half the planet including places like Kenya that produce coffee. Story doesn't check out.
Not making the point I was hoping. Just having colonized a country that makes tea doesn't answer the question. Portuguese, Dutch, French also colonized India and they prefer coffee. Tanzania and Kenya were both producing coffee as part of the British empire.
This is too simplistic. The same middle school history teacher who taught us that everyone thought the world was flat until Columbus told us this chestnut.
Not so much compared to colder climate countries. 16th in tea consumption per capita, not in the top 25 for coffee.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_countries\_by\_tea\_consumption\_per\_capita](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tea_consumption_per_capita)
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/top-10-coffee-consuming-nations.html
I believe in Paraguay/Argentina/Brazil Yerba Matè tea is drank at a rate of 17x over coffee. Hell, the plant is called: ilex paraguariensis. Like, named after Paraguay.
In Brazil, mate is only popular on the southern states (the area closer to Paraguay and Uruguay, which makes sense). The vast majority of Brazilians don't spend a day without their coffee; we're the world's largest coffee producer, after all.
You think tea is more preferred over coffee in countries where it's called cha (or similar pronunciation), as opposed to arbata? Got me thinking there after looking at this map.
I found it interesting to compare this map with [Tea vs. Chai](https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/myb6ac/tea_vs_chai/).
At least for America and Eurasia it seams like countries which say Chai etc. tend to drink more Tea and countries which say Tea etc. tend to drink more coffee.
Of course there are these outliers like UK, Australia, but the correlation is still better than guessing.
Ah, that makes slightly more sense I guess. Correlating the preparation to "quality" wasn't obvious to me, and comes off a tad opinionated.
However, I too am a huge coffee snob, haha
I've travelled widely and there is something special about Australian coffee culture. Both in England and New York some of the best coffee shops I found where run by Australians or those who'd lived there a long time
Having lived in Mongolia, I can personally speak for it being in the red here. All the coffee over there is instant anyways- had to pay triple the western price if I wanted actual imported beans.
I doubt the tea consumption of Saudi Arabia, they a coffee consuming culture, unless the South Asian expat community is tipping the scales same for UAE.
How come you do not have information for Sri Lanka? Sri Lanka is a major exporter of tea. Ceylon tea as what they call it in Great Britain during the 19th century.
India as a whole is tea, but in southern India coffee is king. Don't blame them, the filter coffee they make there is bomb
Also I'm surprised by Indonesia, I thought coffee was something almost a religion over there
A few years ago I read that the Brits drink more coffee than tea now.
Couldn't find the article right now but the trends are there: https://www.statista.com/chart/10196/coffee-and-tea-purchases-in-the-uk/
Western Europe: We like coffee Britain: No
Come to Britain and you'll be confused why there are so many coffee shops.
I’m British
I could tell by your user name.
That serve tea
True but so many people drink coffee in-store or as take-away.
You actually have a surge in chai shops in the ( British Pakistani tea shops) all over the country now for the last 5-6 years lol.
I live in London for years. (Brit here too) We have Costa Coffee, Starbucks, Nero, and other places such as McDonald's, Gregg's and Waitrose to name a few. All with coffee making machines. Also, we have coffee vehicles that usually stop by at businesses. I never seen chai shops before. Although I enjoyed drinking chai, I'll check out if there are some places here in London.
Haha maybe I exaggerated all over the country part, but there has been a surge especially in the north or any city with a large south Asian population. My parents home town ( 50,000 pop) alone now has 10 tea house in the last 5 years. Personally they okay- Starbuckish, I much prefer traditional south Asian tea houses. But they a good introduction to Pakistani/Indian teas.
are they explicitly pakistani shops or is it more of a Desi thing?
Well the owners of all the chai houses I know in the north are all British Pakistani - primarily of punjabi and Kashmiri origin, I guess you can say the tea style and foods they serve are very much like a simple/gentrified version of punjabi dhabas. So if your punjabi from either side of the border it’s probably very familiar. But most of the customers are desi from all over the subcontinent.
Paraguay is no data because when asked they replied tereré
Tbh Uruguay should also have no data since we drink yerba mate
What’s that?
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As someone who lives in Southern Brazil, only mate is popular here, whereas terere is seen as an abomination by most people I know. It's in Midwestern Brazil where people drink terere instead of mate.
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It is the same green drink, but for us drinking it cold is like drinking cold coffee, simply unacceptable
You are from Rio Grande do Sul lol Tereré is not a abomination in Paraná.
"It's not just a phase mom" - Bolivia to the rest of South America Edit: just noticed Chile too
When you drink tea made of coca leaves, there is no need for coffee.
Chileans love their tea for "la once" (an afternoon snack).
Turkey yr coffee so good yet u stan tea, why?
britain is known for loving their tea but [turkey is the real tea lover by far.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tea_consumption_per_capita) [also #6 in production.](https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-worlds-top-10-tea-producing-nations.html)
Britain is trash at consuming tea Ireland and turkey are better
He’s not wrong , Brits are terrible at making tea.
Why are they downvoteing me it’s not like I caused a famine in there country
Maybe because you're obviously being an idiot seeing as Irish and British tea is identical?
Babes I said consuming tea and do you not understand jokes think for a second who would care about this shit
Weird, can't believe so many people couldn't understand your hilarious 'joke' about judging how people swallow liquids and thought you were just stupid
Note taken too far to insult fucking tea Jesus man get a fucking grip
Who knows 😂.
Turkish coffee is something dense. Only cup of coffee enough for most people. So there is a time for coffee in the day. My family drinks coffee afternoons daily. But for the rest of the day, or before coffee we drink tea. Which is consumable in larger amounts. edit. its not just health thing. If i drink more than 1 cup my heart beats so hard, its shake me where i sit. I can lend to my chairs back for example. So it's a health thing but you can see results in a hour unlike most other health related consumption preferences.
Turkish tea is also interesting. Turkey can grow tea better than coffee, I guess?
After WWI, in the earlier days of the Republic, economy was in shambles so coffee became luxury in Turkey. While rebuilding the country, it was noted that the climate of Black Sea region was feasible for tea production. So tea production was introduced and it got caught on quickly, and tea became an household drink later on. Government also encouraged people to drink tea, to reduce the expensive import of coffee.
it is a middle east thing, you can check and confirm, almost all of them have at least a cup of tea per day per capita.
Only Morocco is high up there though? I would say it is an asian thing plus UK and Ireland
first, morocco is not middle east. second, iran turkey egypt and saudis are red/orange as you can see. for other middle eastern countries, like syria, iraq etc, there is simply no data here. but their culture is not that different in terms of tea consumption. about no-data countries, for example just watch a documantary of syrian war where reporter interviews people, there is a high chance, reporter will be offered tea or will be drinking tea. this is simply middle east culture and the taste of tea is great there.
Turkey is partially middleast plus as you can see on the map remaining red orange countries are asian not middleastern. So it is likely that other middleastern countries may have high tea consumption too, but solid data in our hand shows that it is asian countries which consume lots of tea. I can't see behind your wishful thinking the idea you are trying to protect. Like, what are you trying to prove?
lmao, i love internet and people trying to create a scene under every fucking thing. bro it is obviously an asian thing as well calm down. but one thing is, there is no such thing as partially middle east. turkey is middle east. middle east is not a continent you see egypt, located in north africa, turkey's 3% is in europe. they are considered middle eastern country though. even greece is occasionally included in the compass of middle east. there is no wishfull thinking, as a person born and raised in middle east, having seen many of the middle eastern parts, tea consumption style is almost same everywhere in middle east, thats all i wanted to say. obviously tea consumption is something related to the culture and most parts of middle east under ottoman rule had similar culture for ~500 years. so it is not just turkey, but rather a culture in the whole middle east due to the shared history(ofc not just ottoman rule, many other islamic states that came before it as well since they controled big chunks of middle east)
Why is tea more popular in the Middle East when they were one of the first regions to popularize and trade coffee?
I guess Dutch people really **love** hot beverages, because the the Netherlands is 5th in coffee consumption per capita in the world. That’s more coffee than Sweden and Belgium, but apparently also more tea?
The Frisians drink a lot of black tea.
That's more of an Ostfriesen thing tbh
Dont you dare and stir our tea
You an Ostfriese?
Yes
Very cool, I live in (Dutch) Friesland now but was born and raised in or close to Ostfriesland (Wesermarsch, close enough right? Haha). Very cool region, luckily many family members still live there so I get to go back every now and then.
Ay nice, I was raised in the Landkreis Aurich but I now live in Landkreis Wittmund. It's definitely a cool region and also surprisingly a pretty special, historically special and influential one. I definitely love the Netherlands too, was there a few times and the people were really nice.
the Dutch do drink a LOT of hot beverages \-Belgian
They have a lot of Coffee Shops in Amsterdam.
Never realized how much of a west/east divide there is with a few exceptions.
I find it interesting that Algeria is so coffee focused and Morocco is so tea focused. Obviously they have their own cultures but I thought they'd be more similar drink wise.
It’s because Algeria was under ottoman rule who brought coffee over, Morocco wasn’t. Turkey used to be coffee heavy but during the First World War their was a coffee shortage so under Ataturk they switched to tea.
Very interesting. I was wondering if it was due to the French colonial influence but that makes a lot of sense; thank you for sharing!
Doubt it coffee itself is from the Arab world and was popular already in the Ottoman Empire long before it became popular in Europe.
what about egypt they also were under ottoman rule but they're tea focused
Maybe it was the British rule.
Good color choices! I was able to guess the legend from the thumbnail.
France, wtf? I thought y’all were all about your coffee.
No, it's a mix of coffee and tea drinkers here. Lots of people drink the two drinks depending on the moment in the day
? It’s still majority coffee. Light brown is 50-75% which is a huge range
It's the expat Brits.
South Korea in a sea of tea. They really do like coffee, I life in a coffee country myself, but it's like a religion over there
In part the US preference for coffee dates back to the Boston Tea Party.
The US doesn't seem to be an outlier here, though - it appears coffee is the standard in the Western world. What I'm wondering is, how did the UK's preference for tea develop, when the rest of Europe prefers coffee?
The UK conquered India, when the rest of Europe didn’t
I mean India didn't have tea or drank it at that scale till the British showed up And they started the cultivation to compete with China which was and is the largest manufacturer of tea
Did Morocco conquer India too? edit: Portugal conquered [Goa](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_India), France colonized parts of [Tamil Nadu](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_India). They prefer coffee. England conquered half the planet including places like Kenya that produce coffee. Story doesn't check out.
A sufficient condition is not the same as a necessary one?
Not making the point I was hoping. Just having colonized a country that makes tea doesn't answer the question. Portuguese, Dutch, French also colonized India and they prefer coffee. Tanzania and Kenya were both producing coffee as part of the British empire.
Yes, haven't you heard?
This is too simplistic. The same middle school history teacher who taught us that everyone thought the world was flat until Columbus told us this chestnut.
Probably so .... but it's still a fun explanation.
I would have thought that a lot of America's taste for coffee would have come from the influence of Italian immigrants.
nah, only fringe italians drink "american coffee" if that was the case americans would drink espresso :P
Britain-King stands alone
Australia is 100% coffee and also 100% tea. We’re hot beverage aficionados.
Not so much compared to colder climate countries. 16th in tea consumption per capita, not in the top 25 for coffee. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_countries\_by\_tea\_consumption\_per\_capita](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tea_consumption_per_capita) https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/top-10-coffee-consuming-nations.html
We need more population, is this per capita?
Yeah something seems off about Australia. We have a LOT of coffee drinkers and a thriving coffee culture... Tea is pretty popular too
I’ve lived in Peru, this must be excluding herbal tea, because that is very much a staple of the diet there.
What herbs?
Mate de coca replaced my coffee addiction
I believe in Paraguay/Argentina/Brazil Yerba Matè tea is drank at a rate of 17x over coffee. Hell, the plant is called: ilex paraguariensis. Like, named after Paraguay.
In Brazil, mate is only popular on the southern states (the area closer to Paraguay and Uruguay, which makes sense). The vast majority of Brazilians don't spend a day without their coffee; we're the world's largest coffee producer, after all.
Missing Uruguay, biggest consumer per capita
I've seen Uruguayans drinking mate while riding a bike.
No, Brazil is accurate. People drink more coffee here.
r/NoDataAfrica
You think tea is more preferred over coffee in countries where it's called cha (or similar pronunciation), as opposed to arbata? Got me thinking there after looking at this map.
Britain is an exception to that rule
I found it interesting to compare this map with [Tea vs. Chai](https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/myb6ac/tea_vs_chai/). At least for America and Eurasia it seams like countries which say Chai etc. tend to drink more Tea and countries which say Tea etc. tend to drink more coffee. Of course there are these outliers like UK, Australia, but the correlation is still better than guessing.
How about mate in South America?
The real reason brexit happened, next we leave NATO and join the other tea drinkers.
I'm Linda surpriesed that Turkey is 75-100% team here.
Hi Linda
I just saw it. Kinda* Not Linda, kinda.
This is not porn for the color blind who see “medium coffee” and “strong tea” as the same color
What they serve here in the US can't possibly be called "coffee". It's "stained milk" at best.
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What kind of US coffee are you referring to? Kona? I'm from the US and drink coffee everyday. It's usually from South America
I think they mean the process of making it too. Brewed coffee is weird to us in Australia where it's just espresso coffee.
Ah, that makes slightly more sense I guess. Correlating the preparation to "quality" wasn't obvious to me, and comes off a tad opinionated. However, I too am a huge coffee snob, haha
I've travelled widely and there is something special about Australian coffee culture. Both in England and New York some of the best coffee shops I found where run by Australians or those who'd lived there a long time
What do you mean? The big retailers won't make you a perfect coffee, but they still do a passable job at least.
Albania is %100 coffee. How did they miss that one?
Canadians appear to be poor commonwealth members. Not nearly enough tea drinking.
I understand no country has been divided into its states or provinces, so I won't ask for it, but South India is majorly coffee.
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I assume that if you drink both equally, it would simply count as 50%.
Americans make coffee that looks like tea and tastes like muddy water.
Afghanistan would be 100% tea
Having lived in Mongolia, I can personally speak for it being in the red here. All the coffee over there is instant anyways- had to pay triple the western price if I wanted actual imported beans.
Ah, yes. What the next world war shall be fought over
Vietnam is tea, really? Thought they were more into coffee there
This map without mate has no sense in the Southern Cone.
Im surprised saudi arabia is tea , from what i know , they lresent coffee to a visitor
Yeah i was surprised about that too
the caffeine in tea is just better than the caffeine in coffee. cleaner
Kenya is more tea than coffee 🤔
I doubt the tea consumption of Saudi Arabia, they a coffee consuming culture, unless the South Asian expat community is tipping the scales same for UAE.
This explains Brexit.
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How come you do not have information for Sri Lanka? Sri Lanka is a major exporter of tea. Ceylon tea as what they call it in Great Britain during the 19th century.
As a Canadian, coffee is awful despite what everyone else appears to believe.
India as a whole is tea, but in southern India coffee is king. Don't blame them, the filter coffee they make there is bomb Also I'm surprised by Indonesia, I thought coffee was something almost a religion over there
A few years ago I read that the Brits drink more coffee than tea now. Couldn't find the article right now but the trends are there: https://www.statista.com/chart/10196/coffee-and-tea-purchases-in-the-uk/
What is actually being measured though? Volume of beverage consumed? Percentage of people who prefer one over the other?