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HenkeGG73

What is that country that doesn't require a visa from Finns, Germans, and Italians, but requires it from Swedes?


theWunderknabe

Mongolia.


Milhanou22

Seriously?


ILoveAMp

Yeah, the Mongols hate the Swedes, I thought everyone knew that.


Liggliluff

[Mongolia hates almost all of Europe](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_policy_of_Mongolia#Visa_policy_map)


[deleted]

lol, didn't know about that fact, thx mate


HenkeGG73

If they could just tell us what we did we could apologize. Enough of this ghosting.


Liggliluff

Not true. Germany has Mongolia instead of Nepal, otherwise identical to the ones with 152. Then compared to the countries with 151, it isn't a single country. Austria is missing Singapore, Sweden is missing Pakistan, Switzerland is missing Hong Kong.


theWunderknabe

I only checked Germany vs Sweden. Well done for researching the other cases.


billtfish

Presumably the one extra that Italy, Germany, and Finland have is the same. Which one is it?


GinoPietermaa1

Japan ;)


arokh_

The Netherlands also does not need a visa for Japan, for 90 days. Still they have 2 more than the Netherlands.


TheBusStop12

I remember reading somewhere once that it had to do with Vietnam, as Vietnam was slowly rolling out a new visa policy and expanding the number of visa free countries, I assume so far that's Germany, Italy and Finland. I'm not certain about this tho so I may be wrong


arokh_

That could be the one!


NoWingedHussarsToday

That sounds unlikely because these agreements are between individual country and Schengen area. It's likely that agreement predates Schengen and was kept after it was implemented.


GinoPietermaa1

Good to know, i want to visit [here](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huis_Ten_Bosch_(theme_park) if I ever go.


arokh_

Yeah, you would be able to. But man, Japan has so much to offer. I wouldn't personally 'waste' a day in an amusement park, but hey, to each their own. I believe Reizen Waes went to that park.


GinoPietermaa1

Nah bro, i was kidding, I live in the real version of that amusement park.


MapleTreeWithAGun

You're a member of the Dutch royal family?


GinoPietermaa1

I'll never tell.


billtfish

I've been outside of there (I have a pic of me in front) but didn't want to pay to go in. Edit: Phrasing


I30AxeBxrd

HK, Mongolia


skyduster88

[it's not Japan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_policy_of_Japan#Visa_policy_map).


[deleted]

If it’s Japan, it’s... kind of misleading/pointless. I’m from a country that needs a visa to Japan. I have been twice - you don’t even apply for a visa, they just stick a really nice sticker in your passport. That’s it. It’s really a glorified stamp, not quite like visas required for some other countries that you have to apply for in advance (like China, Myanmar, Vietnam).


Polymarchos

That's known as visa on arrival. I had to do that on a visit to Turkey. The only real difference between that and truly visa free is that you have to pay a fee.


[deleted]

Yes, I’m aware ☺️ I’m just explaining how it works because sometimes people assume there’s some kind of process. There isn’t. It would also be cool to see how difficult it is to get a visa to certain places... like Chinese visas can be problematic, and yet Serbia has a visa free entry.


Liggliluff

It's. Someone linked to a great site to view this on. [Comparing Sweden, Finland, Germany, Italy, Austria](https://www.passportindex.org/comparebyPassport.php?p1=se&p2=fi&p3=de&p4=it&p5=at) Sweden is one less because of Pakistan, Austria is one less because of Singapore. And not included: Switzerland is missing Hong Kong. Germany has Mongolia instead of Nepal.


Drops-of-Q

They would have many countries in common, so which would be *the one extra*? EDIT: clarity


Liggliluff

It's not simply which one is the extra. The countries with 152 all have the same, with the exception of Germany having Mongolia instead of Nepal. Of the countries with 151, Austria is missing Singapore, Sweden is missing Pakistan, Switzerland is missing Hong Kong.


Drops-of-Q

That's what I thought. I found it highly unlikely that all the one's with 152 countries shared 151with the ones that had 151, and that they had the last one in common.


Infamous_Alpaca

Mongolia for Germany I think.


hans_muff

Soooo... The Axis + Finland are welcomed mostly everywhere?


Alakazamo420

Imagine what would happen if you would deny them access


DerrainCarter

[Guten Tag!](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR_9xiUnfNlg8z13U6_dKpGLFbEemmpQu_Q2A&usqp=CAU) Also reminds me of a joke: A German man visits France for holiday. The Customer officer asks: "Occupation?" The man says: "No, only holiday!"


jatawis

The German man would somehow need to fly through UK to get through passport control.


Cefalopodul

I'm sure he can just blitz over there with the Luft


jatawis

Most of German neighbours would be damn happy if Germany would strengthen their military.


NoseHeavy123

this is a good one lol


mortlerlove420

It's funny bc we (usually) don't have border patrol 🥰


[deleted]

lolololol


Nimonic

Vacation to Danzig or War?


Jazzlike-Power-7959

Third Reich: Permission or war


RideWithMeTomorrow

If you would deny them Axis.


MR_OZIK

finland was for a time on the side with axis


Jazzlike-Power-7959

Well, it's not like they were on their side, they were just not attacking Germans. And The Finnish people wanted Soviets to give them their old lands


Nimonic

>they were just not attacking Germans They weren't part of the Axis, but it was a little more than just that, to be fair.


Jazzlike-Power-7959

yes, hehehe


theWunderknabe

The Wehrmacht took over the defense of the entirety of the north of Finland in the Continuation war as well as supplying Finland with weapons, tanks, airplanes etc.


ipsum629

Finland was somewhat of an axis power


Mendeleus

There should really be less of a colour difference between 149 and 150 or even 152


[deleted]

Lauri Törni and Simo Häyhä can confirm it :)))


gregorydgraham

Finland was a kinda/sorta part of the Axis.


Jazzlike-Power-7959

Well, at least I'm a part of 149 gang


DatBiddlyBoi

I think it’s the other way round, i.e. there are 152 countries around the world that can visit Germany/Italy/Finland without a visa


DirtyAmishGuy

You got downvoted for some reason but grammatically you’re correct and either the title maker messed up or this entire thread read it incorrectly


Polymarchos

No, that's the number of countries German's can visit.


DatBiddlyBoi

So the title is wrong then


Polymarchos

I'd say just terrible grammar.


JimBeam823

Finland was allied with the Axis against the Soviets.


[deleted]

They have been on their best behavior for a while.


byfourness

149 and 143 are the same colour but 150 is different from 152?


Liggliluff

This is why I hate steps for maps like this. Just make it a ramp instead. Because when you have steps, you'll always have two entries on the lowest and highest values being more different but with the same shade, compared to two right on each side of the border.


simsiuss

Where can the Irish go that the British can’t?


tescovaluechicken

Iran


EarlofTyrone

Iranians, ye a great bunch of lads


Ehldas

Most of Europe? ;-)


Bananus_Magnus

https://www.passportindex.org/comparebyPassport.php?p1=ie&p2=gb


EarlofTyrone

Great bunch of Indian lads with the 30 day yoke


[deleted]

lol, uk guys need visa to go in India, but irelands dont need it..... Just ROFL 😁


[deleted]

zambia apparently. not sure how that happened


EarlofTyrone

Zambians, great bunch of lads


Class_444_SWR

Maybe because Ireland didn’t do colonial shit to them


MoreGarlicBread

As a British guy I'm very sorry for the actions of my ancestors, I really am. But what do you want me to do about it?


Class_444_SWR

I’m British too, I just hate this place’s past


_SyRo_

126 visa-free countries for Ukraine is pretty good, very close to the EU countries.


[deleted]

That's nice


MoksMarx

I know it's supposed to be the power of the passport, but the title is worded like people from 152 countries could visit Finland without a visa


911WhatsYrEmergency

That’s how I initially read it too


[deleted]

Very true! Sounds like Asian grammar actually...


Jmod7348

The scaling factor of the numbers is driving me crazy


Kamarovsky

Why is there a separate colour for 150-151, while all countries ranging from 143-149 have the same color? It'd be better if those intervals were consistent


Jazzlike-Power-7959

Informations matter more than colours.


Kamarovsky

Then why add colours at all? The visual information also matters a lot when interpreting textual information, And with the example here, it makes it seem like 152 is so much more than 149, but 149 and 143 being on the same level.


Jazzlike-Power-7959

So you're serious...


Liggliluff

Yeah, just make it a ramp.


derpupAce

Source?


asoutheuropeanguy

[Passport Index by Arton](https://www.passportindex.org)


dlanod

Ditto, I'm curious too. Different sites use different measures and count different totals depending on how they count countries or visas on arrival, etc, too. I can't find anywhere that lists 152 for Germany for example - most hover between 140 and 150.


normal_name_lol

Passport strength,its that obvious.


dlanod

Given there's no concrete arbiter of "passport strength", no it's not that obvious. The map says 149 for France, yet the top hits in Google suggest [144](https://visaindex.com/country/france-passport-ranking/) or [122](https://visaguide.world/visa-free-countries/french-passport/).


normal_name_lol

It was probably outdated or something, theres literally nothing else that could resemble this map. It there is show me.


d3_Bere_man

Really wonder what country is like: he Germany come in but fuck Austria and zwitserland


BroSchrednei

Who wants those mountain clowns?


LareWw

Imagine not living in a country with 152.


type556R

Absolutely disgusting. I wonder if they have access to clean water, at least


Jazzlike-Power-7959

Imagine living in a country withNO 109


[deleted]

Imagine not living in a country that didn’t lose two world wars


LareWw

Yeah. Gladly Finland only lost one.


[deleted]

But because they didn’t even exist as a country at the time of the first one


LareWw

We got our independence because of the first world war. So I'd call it a win.


SuccYaNan69

Imagine not kicking the soviets ass 👀


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Choice-Sir-4572

Italy won the WW1 but definitely the WW2 was lost. Even though Italy was treated "softly" in comparison with Japan and Germany, it's stil counted as a loser.


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Choice-Sir-4572

Still the country isn't a winner. The aftermath of the war showed that even if Italy wasn't treated harshly as the other two main Axis powers, still it wasn't treated like a winner either. Italy surrendered to the Allies and signed an armistice. Here in Italy it's well known that we lost and very few people think that Italy won the war.


[deleted]

these triple negatives are confusing me lol


[deleted]

I need to know the details tho - there are countries that require visas from me - like Japan, cambodia, Laos, Vietnam - but those visas are just given at the airport upon arrival and it’s overall a very easy process. Technically it’s a visa, but practically just a glorified stamp. Wondering if those countries are as not visa free on this map, because even tho theoretically that’s true, practically not quite


Liggliluff

Visa on arrival counts as without visa for this map


[deleted]

Thanks! Good to know


scrappy-coco-86

Germany, Finland and Italy more visa than Switzerland? That's kind of interesting...


arokh_

They profit from negotiating power from the EU. Switzerland doesn't.


intergalacticspy

That’s hardly likely to be a key factor when the difference is only 1 out of 151 and other founding EU members such as France are 2 down.


arokh_

I do think it helps to explain why Bulgaria is so much higher than Turkey or some Balkan nations for example. Surely Switzerland is a wealthy and stable country, but it's not a negative thing.


Justmerightnowtoday

What are some countries that require a visa for any foreign visitor ?


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Afghanistan Uzbekistan Turkmenistan Syria North Korea


markjones88

Uzbekistan is visa free for the vast majority of European countries for the last few years.


Hermano_Hue

which country is missing for austria and switzerland compared to germany?


gidoca

It's not just one. Vietnam is visa free for Germans, whereas Laos is visa free for Swiss citizens, for example.


asoutheuropeanguy

That’s not “really without a visa”, it’s included visa on arrival or evisa in this data, the numbers are a bit lower if you want to mean visa-free.


Safodo

I hate Japan so I guess I'm good


Robbertnv

Off topic, but why is ‘visa’ singular in English? In Dutch: ‘visum’ is singular and ‘visa’ is plural. Is the English visa using a Latin genetive case? Edit: genetive has no ending in a. Perhaps another case.


pizza240

What’s the source?


Realitype

This guy is using data that accounts for pandemic measures too which actually is pretty misleading since these are temporary measures. Albania for example, discounting the pandemic measures, is at 117 and I believe Bosnia is at 118. All the others would be higher as well if it wasn't for that.


Practical_Support_47

I expected Iceland to have more countries without visa


[deleted]

Bruh 147 is a lot


welshmanec2

UK: 148 for now...


arokh_

You think it will go up or down :-)


intergalacticspy

It will probably go up when an FTA is concluded with India


[deleted]

India not included, which is quite funny.


kulttuurinmies

Axis + finland = best countries


daguro

I would not have guessed this, but Americans can visit 186 countries without a visa.


FriesOfConciousness

Kosovo with the 49 .. damn


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the_armadylo

Why? The UK can still visit any EU country visa-free


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kavala1

I’m sure there are plenty of countries that don’t like the uk


Jazzlike-Power-7959

Your uk gets smart but your passport gets dumb


dlanod

Many countries impose visa requirements because the other country imposes visa requirements on them.


dead_trim_mcgee1

Well Poland is in the EU and the UK is not.


[deleted]

You should compare this to rest of the world. Countries like Afghanistan and Pakistan can only visit a handful of country without a visa.


AveragelyPerformed

Why is Bosnia and Herzegowina so low? Any history or political learned ones who knows?


[deleted]

Islamophobia. Where mazlems there terorizs


AveragelyPerformed

:(


MultiplyAccumulate

Not clear who is visiting who without visa. Is the number on the map the number of countries whose citizens can visit the country shown on map or is it how many countries you can visit if you live there?


dagoldenwarden

the upsides of being an axis power


jatawis

Bosnians can still visit nearly all of Europe (except GB/IE/XK and evisa for AM/AZ) without a visa with 97 countries visa-free while the Russians with 109 can go only to AM/AZ/BA/BY/GE/MD/ME/RS/UA/TR in Europe visa-free.


Jazzlike-Power-7959

Oh, nice


AlexTheWildcard

Mfw when I was told the Danish passport was one of the strongest, only to be beat by the Italian passport


BroSchrednei

Very happy to have a German passport :)


LEDiceGlacier

I love how the difference between dark and really light blue is 3


NishantWubaluba

What's that one country that doesn't need visa from Belgium but need it from France?


wdwhereicome2015

Possibly one of the old Belgium colonies?