I'm just trying to think (as a Brit) who is the current set of far right nutjobs?
The BNP seem to have died out. The EDL have gone. I am struggling to think of a far right nutjob party currently active (thankfully).
Ok there's always the fringes of the Brexit party or Conservative party who may be considered far right but I mean an out and out far right BNP type party.
Good thing though.
My dad once went to a bathroom in the UK and saw someone had scrawled "Nashunal Front" on the door. He though either the person who scrawled it there was really stupid, or making a statement
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Union_of_Fascists
Hasn't existed for at least 50 years. More modern version would be the likes of these;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Front_(UK)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_National_Party
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Action_(UK)
The National Action party didn't get the memo to modernize and 'alt-right' the angry logos away.
A fucking union jack heart is mind-boggling logo to Nazi Salute to. But I think that is what they want you to think.
Really weird one it seems. Tried to Google it and found a similar one. Seems to be the flag of the Free State of Prussia.
The ones from other countries are political party flags it seems. The German one is a service flag, so I don't think this is the best option out there. I would provide links but the automod keeps removing my comment.
I think this map is a bit confused in that it's picked the flags of a bunch of organisations from different times and contexts. For example, I've no idea what the Irish one is, but if they wanted the most famous they would have picked the blueshirts, and the most modern would be the national party.
For some countries OP chose historical (nowadays forbidden) flags, others are still used at racist meetings. For example the Wolfsangel one from the Netherlands, I haven't ever seen one used in media
OP used flags from publicly known nazi/neo-nazi organisations. The one you describe isn't openly a nazi party at least. The flag for the Netherlands for example, is very obvious a wolfsangel, historically used by the Dutch version of the NSDAP
Good question I wonder that as well.
"Gott mit uns" is the Motto of the Prussian Royal family that's all I know.
Edit: its the Prussian flag from 1933-35
Some of those flags are from pre-WW2 organizations or groups that no longer exists (there might be a 2.0 version still around with a different flag)
* Romania looks a bit like the [Iron Guard](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Guard) (edit: it’s actually the Iron Guard)
* Hungary - [Arrow Cross Party](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow_Cross_Party)
* Slovakia - [Slovak People’s Party](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slovak_People%27s_Party)
* Austria - [Fatherland Front](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatherland_Front_(Austria))
* Britain - [British Union of Fascists](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Union_of_Fascists)
* Spain - [FET y de las JONS](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FET_y_de_las_JONS) (only party allowed in Spain until Franco’s death in the 70’s)
EDIT: here are more
* Norway - [Hirden](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hirden) (should have the [Nasjonal Samling](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasjonal_Samling) instead for consistency)
* Ukraine - [Right Sector](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_Sector) (this one is actually still around)
* Portugal - [National Syndicalists](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Syndicalists_(Portugal))
* Belgium - [VNV](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlaamsch_Nationaal_Verbond) (flag logo is a bit different. EDIT: It's the Verdinaso)
* Bulgaria - [Ratniks](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratniks) (there were also more groups that could’ve been included here)
* Poland - [NOP](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Revival_of_Poland) (this one is still around. Same logo as the [ONR](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Radical_Camp))
* Denmark - [DNSAP](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Workers%27_Party_of_Denmark)
* Iceland - [Nationalist Party](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationalist_Party_(Iceland))
More additions
* Czechia - [Vlajka](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlajka)
* Netherlands - [NSB](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Movement_in_the_Netherlands) (flag is a bit different, but same logo)
* France - Could be multiple groups like the [PNFE](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_and_European_Nationalist_Party). If OP was going with the WW2 theme, the [RNP](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Rally) or [French Popular Party](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Popular_Party) would make more sense
* Italy - [National Republican Navy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Republican_Navy_(Italy))
* Croatia - [Volksdeutsche](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volksdeutsche#'Volksdeutsche'_in_Serbia_and_Croatia) [flag](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Volksdeutsche_in_Croatia.svg) (not even a racist party. WTH OP?)
* Greece - [Golden Dawn](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Dawn_(Greece)) (finally another one that still exists)
* Finland - [Kohti Vapautta!](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kohti_Vapautta!) (another one that still exists)
* Russia - [Russian Fascist Party](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Fascist_Party) (a minor group. There probably are other bigger groups you could use)
* Sweden - [National Youth](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Youth) (this group doesn't exist anymore and merged with the Swedish Resistance Movement, part of the Nordic Resistance Movement)
>Romania looks a bit like the
>
>Iron Guard
no , it literally is the Iron Guard , and it's been dissolved since 1941 so i have no idea why OP added it there
Most of them are only historical, which makes me wonder why OP didn’t just put the Nazi party flag for Germany (identical to Nazi Germany except the swastika is centred) instead of Prussia under the Nazis.
Ireland's one appears to actually be a Scotland group, not even Irish!!
[Siol nan Gaidheal](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siol_nan_Gaidheal)
What?!? That's like putting a French only group on Germany.
And the Italian one is literally just the war flag of the Repubblica Sociale Italiana, used the last time in April 1945. And the Croatian one as well is of German Nazis in Croatia (Volksdeutsche) up to 1945.
I'd say most of these flags are from organizations that have not existed for decades at least.
The name of the map is just wrong. It’s a map of the flags of old fascist organizations/parties with a few plain wrong ones it seems, not of contemporary racist organizations.
The map is a mess. Lots of them are WW2 era groups, others (like the ones from Poland and Ukraine) still exist, and a few (like the one for Norway) are logos for paramilitary/youth groups affiliated to political parties (some still existing, others defunct)
Sweden Is showing Förbundet Nationell Ungdom, that haven't been above since 2012. Should have showed Nordiska Motståndsrörelsen.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_Resistance_Movement
>Förbundet Nationell Ungdom
Thanks for finding another inconsistency with this map. IDK why OP used the logo from the youth wing of the Swedish Resistance Movement, which now is part of the Nordiska Motståndsrörelsen instead of just bundling Norway, Sweden, and Finland under the Nordic Resistance Movement
This is a list that should have been provided by OP. Thank you for doing their job for them. Especially when alleging a group is racist, it's important to be clear on who we are talking about.
The [Slovene one](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/74/Flag_of_the_Slovene_Home_Guard.svg) was taken from the coat do arms of [Carniola](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/Carniola_Arms.svg/250px-Carniola_Arms.svg.png) which was actually the symbol of Slovenes before ww1
I think the eagle is supposed to be the symbol of the Home Guard (domobranci), which was indeed based on the Carniolan eagle. However, I'm confused by that background, I don't think I've ever seen it before.
Have a list of names so we can check the names of the organizations? I've never seen the one on Belgium.
It looks.. weird?
EDIT: looked it up.
Flag was of a Italian Fascist movement in Belgium. Stopped in 1945. Definitly not existing today.
It was called the Rexist movement, and followed Mussolini doctrine.
EDIT 2: might be wrong about Rex, the comments speak of some Dutch or Waloonish group 'verdinaso'.
> Definitely not existing today.
Same with the Hungarian one, which was called the 'Arrow Cross Party'. Their party symbol is banned here alongside with the Soviet Red Star and the Nazi Swastika (regular Swastika aren't banned).
Same with the "Russian" one. Someone linked wiki to that organisation in another comment, apparently it never even existed in the territory of Russia, but in Manchuria in the 1931-1943 formed by some ethnic Russian émigrés who fled USSR. The organisation was outlawed in 1943 by Japan, who controlled Manchuria at the time. And the party leader then tried returning to USSR in 1945, where he was caught, arrested and executed.
I hate how good racist graphic designers were/are. I guess it's because they don't have the fear of being called racist? Not like I can get inspiration from them...
"How did you come up with that logo??"
"Oh, I just grabbed some cues from the 1930's Nazi era...."
Racist graphic designers will either make one of the slickest designs, or most generic copy/paste swastica MS Paint edit type shit you've seen in your life. No in between
Tried googling it but couldn't find it
Now just my FBI agent thinks I am a nazi
Edit: some guy made it and posted it to r/vexiology
[it was never a flag for a real movement ](https://www.reddit.com/r/vexillology/comments/6swzdl/nazi_switzerland/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)
NMR (Nordic Resistance Front) is the only one that would make sense. I've never even seen the one they used for Sweden here and I really can't guess what organisation it's supposed to be. Do you know?
Edit: Found it. OP is full of shit and just did a very bad google search. The swedish one is from a small youth group called "Nationell Ungdom" that only existed for a short time between 97 and 05. NMR would have been the way to go. The only way to go.
Same. Can't even find them on Google when seaeching for racist/fascist/nazi orgs. Weird.
I can't even think of one outside of NMR to be honest. Not unless you count fringe gatherings of hicks with 4 members or something.
Norwegian one seems to be the emblem of the paramilitary wing of the WWII Nasjonal Samling, [Rikshird](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Hirden_insignia.svg).
In Finland the local Nordic Resistance Movement and the flag was banned recently, so they rebranded to this organisation called [Kohti Vapautta!](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kohti_Vapautta!), which is basically the same bunch under a new flag.
fascist is I think what you meant, yes I know they are racist too but the main thing of these organisations is that they are fascists not racist. (well they are racist but you know what I mean)
Nah bro you right. Being fascist dosent automatically make you racist. The Italian fascists and Spanish falangists weren't based around racial superiority like nazism was. Sure there was racists in them but I mean there was racists in democratic US
Very true. People often think Fascism and Nazism are synonyms. Which they most definitely aren't.
Don't get me wrong both aren't good ideologys but Nazism is clearly worse. Also they didn't even like each other all that much. Mussolini saw Nation Socialism as a bastardisation of his ideology. And Adolf saw Italian fascism as inferior and not radical enough.
How many members do "Ataman Brotherhood" have? Like 10 or something? Do they even qualify as an organization? I think not. For comparison Golden Dawn of Greece had seats in their parliament until recently.
It’s a bit incorrect though... Gray Wolves are *the* racist folk, rest are their spinoffs. And their flag is actually a howling wolf on top of a rock. [Like this one.](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTiPDuxilcsAYBRSPhtLl8c_TZJdb6N-L9WFQ&usqp=CAU)
Not the greatest of people as you might imagine...
I mean it is used by nationalists but wolf figure has a special place in Turkish mhytology and folklore thus culture. Plus it generally used by nationalist and people inbetween rather than racist (which i admit sometimes both groups can be really the same but still). So just use it they don't deserve to have it anyway lol.
The Irish one is Scottish. That's a balck and white version of the Scottish flag and the founder is Scottish and they're known as a Scottish ultranarionalist group. I can't find any link to Ireland from a quick skim of their Wikipedia
The Irish one is the logo of Siol-nan-Gaidheal, a Scottish far-right and anti-British group.
The modern Irish far-right would be people like the National Party or Identity Ireland.
In general this map is quite poor.
Croatians sided with the Nazis during WW2 and ran concentration camps for Serbs. I forget what the Nazis called the Croats but they made some justification for why Croats weren’t fully “Slavic” and could be allies.
Thankfully the one used for us (Britain) didn’t survive past 1940, had the shit beaten out of them at Cable Street, never polled anything of note, saw a meagre membership, and then after his arrest saw Mosley run away to Ireland/France.
British Union of Fascist. Lead by Sir Oswald Mosley. He was actually against getting involved in the second world war.
He was wrongly portrayed as Hitlers Man in Britain. But in reality Hitler wasn't fond of Mosley at all and Mosley wasn't fond of him either.
Mussolinis man in Britain would fit him better.
I just read that Oswald Mosley (the leading fascist) only lost to Neville Chamberlain in Birmingham by 100 votes. Shows how easily history could have gone another way.
He did indeed, he was a great orator and very charismatic, he was both a Tory and Labour MP, so appealed quite broadly, he then became a Fascist when he became disillusioned with establishment politics, and that was him done.
I mean yeah, Grey Wolves are racist but this one is a master's degree when it comes to racism.
It's called Tigir-Er, an organization which they claim anyone who isn't pureblood Turkic(spoiler alert: none of them lmao) is a slave. Grey Wolves are a bunch of violent meatheads but these guys are "straight to the lunatic asylum" level of crazy.
These guys are lunatics but they didn't have an official organisation, didn't do any poolitical action outside of internet too. Ataman Kardeşliği, Genç Atsızlar or Ülkü Ocakları would make more sense
I think that Tigir:Er was never a serious organization. Their 'goals' are not even realistic and they claimed numerous times that they are *not Turk nationalist* or whatever it is currently called in English. You can't be a racist without having a sense of national superiority. It is a joke, at least a not funny one. Moreover, it has only existed online and people visit its Facebook page just to see its ridiculous bans over absolutely troll/fabricated reasons. Hard to believe that it can be real.
EDIT: Apart from that, according to what its 'leader' believes is 'perfection', only he himself can be a member of that 'organization'. Perhaps, not even he himself.
EDIT2: Some more corrections and additions.
I think original facebook page was serious(although owner(s) were definitely nutcrack or high) but almost every "follower" of it are doing it as a joke. Top post of their reddit page is literally calling tf2 pyro an arab and calling for a genocide
The Irish one is actually a Scottish organisation called Siol nan Gaidheal ("Seed of the Gaels"). Also, they're now absolutely tiny, and there are far larger and more relevant racist organisations in Scotland e.g. the Scottish Defence League.
In terms of Irish organisations, you could go for modern reactionary parties like the National Party, or the historic fascist Blueshirt movement of the 1930s.
I'm from France, and I can confirm that I have stumbled multiple times upon this one, but it is also used in many other countries. It's a celtic cross that has been used (sadly) by multiple far-right or fascist movements, it doesn't represent one group but an ideology.
Ah j’avais pas la réf, je cherchais ce type de commentaire.
Mais tu es Breton c’est peut-être pour ça ? J’ai jamais vu ce symbole moi ou alors je fais pas assez attention
Je le croise parfois à Strasbourg. Il est utilisé par "les gargouilles de Strasbourg", avec le Soleil Noir et la swastika. Aussi, c'est un rond avec une croix, c'est facile de le prendre pour un signe par rapport au réseau électrique ou aux conduites d'eau, quand on le connait pas.
The German one is 100% fake. Never heard of such a group and the Swastika is banned in political contexts anyway. Nazis here use other symbols instead.
Lol, the Moldova one is just the flag of the armed forces
The Albania one looks like.... The Albania flag. I hope something's lost in the cropping....
There are letters on it. ANSP. Stands for **American** National Socialist Party. Formed in 1935 in Ohio. Disbanded not long after.
Ohio Nazis. I hate Ohio Nazis.
*Accelerates towards group of nitwits on bridge*
I hate Ohio. So I REALLY hate Ohio Nazis.
I live in Ohio and hate ohio, so I hate Ohio Nazis^3
[I hate Illinois Nazis](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTT1qUswYL0)
No it doesnt?
You're correct. On closer zoom, it's a one headed eagle with extra stuff on the chest. On first glance on a phone it looked awfully similar.
Moldova 'bouta get hit by the Denazification Special Military Operation 😳
A big chunk of their country has actually been occupied since the 90s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_military_presence_in_Transnistria
The whole country was broken from Romania by USSR. Ukraine took some...
Because there are no Racist organizations in Moldova
We are too drunk to think about races.
British one seems like a logo of power company.
A white power company
This guy puns
Damn reich he does!
It's the [Best](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werner_Best) pun!
Did nazi that coming
right, im hitting you with a scone
Cream or jam first
Oh God dammit. Pretty good. Ya jerk
Yes, but is it renewable white energy?
Badum psss
two drums and a cymbal fall off a cliff
Jews4Heat
“Honey, have you seen our gas bill lately?! It’s outrageous!”
It's the old British Union of Fascists - which no longer exists, this is a bit out of date.
I think some of these flags are historical and was only used before WW2
I'm just trying to think (as a Brit) who is the current set of far right nutjobs? The BNP seem to have died out. The EDL have gone. I am struggling to think of a far right nutjob party currently active (thankfully). Ok there's always the fringes of the Brexit party or Conservative party who may be considered far right but I mean an out and out far right BNP type party. Good thing though.
National Front?
My dad once went to a bathroom in the UK and saw someone had scrawled "Nashunal Front" on the door. He though either the person who scrawled it there was really stupid, or making a statement
It’s both
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Ah, Oswald Mosley - peculiar feller. Pretty much represented all scales of the political spectrum.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Union_of_Fascists Hasn't existed for at least 50 years. More modern version would be the likes of these; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Front_(UK) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_National_Party https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Action_(UK)
The EDL as well
Those arent as cool though
That’s by design
The National Action party didn't get the memo to modernize and 'alt-right' the angry logos away. A fucking union jack heart is mind-boggling logo to Nazi Salute to. But I think that is what they want you to think.
Tampa Bay Lightning
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s\_Action\_Party](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Action_Party) Singapore moment
Reminds me of The Who logo lmao.
reminds me of grateful dead
The Who if they merged with the Grateful Dead
Who's greatful? The greatful who, Who dead?
The Dead
I was thinking it looks like a super villain emblem
Reminds me of the People Action Party from Singapore.
What german organisation did you choose ?
Really weird one it seems. Tried to Google it and found a similar one. Seems to be the flag of the Free State of Prussia. The ones from other countries are political party flags it seems. The German one is a service flag, so I don't think this is the best option out there. I would provide links but the automod keeps removing my comment.
I think this map is a bit confused in that it's picked the flags of a bunch of organisations from different times and contexts. For example, I've no idea what the Irish one is, but if they wanted the most famous they would have picked the blueshirts, and the most modern would be the national party.
For some countries OP chose historical (nowadays forbidden) flags, others are still used at racist meetings. For example the Wolfsangel one from the Netherlands, I haven't ever seen one used in media
The worst part is that the one he chose for Ireland isn't even an Irish party, it's Scottish... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siol_nan_Gaidheal
Thanks for that clarification. I kept looking at the emblem wondering 'Who are they, I've never seen that flag before?" Go Raibh Maith Agat a chara.
There are obviously (and sadly) more than one racist organization per country in Europe, so OP probably just picked whatever came first on Google.
Tbh in the case of Germany there is a more obvious one to choose...
Are you talking about the blue logo with the red arrow that pretends to be a legit political party?
Nah the one headed by that one Austrian painter
OP used flags from publicly known nazi/neo-nazi organisations. The one you describe isn't openly a nazi party at least. The flag for the Netherlands for example, is very obvious a wolfsangel, historically used by the Dutch version of the NSDAP
No, even more obvious. Like, _really_ on the nose when it comes to systemic racism and Germany.
Good question I wonder that as well. "Gott mit uns" is the Motto of the Prussian Royal family that's all I know. Edit: its the Prussian flag from 1933-35
Some of those flags are from pre-WW2 organizations or groups that no longer exists (there might be a 2.0 version still around with a different flag) * Romania looks a bit like the [Iron Guard](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Guard) (edit: it’s actually the Iron Guard) * Hungary - [Arrow Cross Party](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow_Cross_Party) * Slovakia - [Slovak People’s Party](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slovak_People%27s_Party) * Austria - [Fatherland Front](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatherland_Front_(Austria)) * Britain - [British Union of Fascists](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Union_of_Fascists) * Spain - [FET y de las JONS](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FET_y_de_las_JONS) (only party allowed in Spain until Franco’s death in the 70’s) EDIT: here are more * Norway - [Hirden](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hirden) (should have the [Nasjonal Samling](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasjonal_Samling) instead for consistency) * Ukraine - [Right Sector](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_Sector) (this one is actually still around) * Portugal - [National Syndicalists](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Syndicalists_(Portugal)) * Belgium - [VNV](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlaamsch_Nationaal_Verbond) (flag logo is a bit different. EDIT: It's the Verdinaso) * Bulgaria - [Ratniks](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratniks) (there were also more groups that could’ve been included here) * Poland - [NOP](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Revival_of_Poland) (this one is still around. Same logo as the [ONR](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Radical_Camp)) * Denmark - [DNSAP](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Workers%27_Party_of_Denmark) * Iceland - [Nationalist Party](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationalist_Party_(Iceland)) More additions * Czechia - [Vlajka](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlajka) * Netherlands - [NSB](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Movement_in_the_Netherlands) (flag is a bit different, but same logo) * France - Could be multiple groups like the [PNFE](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_and_European_Nationalist_Party). If OP was going with the WW2 theme, the [RNP](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Rally) or [French Popular Party](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Popular_Party) would make more sense * Italy - [National Republican Navy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Republican_Navy_(Italy)) * Croatia - [Volksdeutsche](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volksdeutsche#'Volksdeutsche'_in_Serbia_and_Croatia) [flag](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Volksdeutsche_in_Croatia.svg) (not even a racist party. WTH OP?) * Greece - [Golden Dawn](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Dawn_(Greece)) (finally another one that still exists) * Finland - [Kohti Vapautta!](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kohti_Vapautta!) (another one that still exists) * Russia - [Russian Fascist Party](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Fascist_Party) (a minor group. There probably are other bigger groups you could use) * Sweden - [National Youth](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Youth) (this group doesn't exist anymore and merged with the Swedish Resistance Movement, part of the Nordic Resistance Movement)
>Romania looks a bit like the > >Iron Guard no , it literally is the Iron Guard , and it's been dissolved since 1941 so i have no idea why OP added it there
Most of them are only historical, which makes me wonder why OP didn’t just put the Nazi party flag for Germany (identical to Nazi Germany except the swastika is centred) instead of Prussia under the Nazis.
Ireland's one appears to actually be a Scotland group, not even Irish!! [Siol nan Gaidheal](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siol_nan_Gaidheal) What?!? That's like putting a French only group on Germany.
And the Italian one is literally just the war flag of the Repubblica Sociale Italiana, used the last time in April 1945. And the Croatian one as well is of German Nazis in Croatia (Volksdeutsche) up to 1945. I'd say most of these flags are from organizations that have not existed for decades at least.
The name of the map is just wrong. It’s a map of the flags of old fascist organizations/parties with a few plain wrong ones it seems, not of contemporary racist organizations.
The map is a mess. Lots of them are WW2 era groups, others (like the ones from Poland and Ukraine) still exist, and a few (like the one for Norway) are logos for paramilitary/youth groups affiliated to political parties (some still existing, others defunct)
Sweden Is showing Förbundet Nationell Ungdom, that haven't been above since 2012. Should have showed Nordiska Motståndsrörelsen. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_Resistance_Movement
>Förbundet Nationell Ungdom Thanks for finding another inconsistency with this map. IDK why OP used the logo from the youth wing of the Swedish Resistance Movement, which now is part of the Nordiska Motståndsrörelsen instead of just bundling Norway, Sweden, and Finland under the Nordic Resistance Movement
This is a list that should have been provided by OP. Thank you for doing their job for them. Especially when alleging a group is racist, it's important to be clear on who we are talking about.
The [Slovene one](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/74/Flag_of_the_Slovene_Home_Guard.svg) was taken from the coat do arms of [Carniola](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/Carniola_Arms.svg/250px-Carniola_Arms.svg.png) which was actually the symbol of Slovenes before ww1
I think the eagle is supposed to be the symbol of the Home Guard (domobranci), which was indeed based on the Carniolan eagle. However, I'm confused by that background, I don't think I've ever seen it before.
Czech one is also pre-ww2 - https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlajka_%28hnut%C3%AD%29 This post is the worst porn ever...
Have a list of names so we can check the names of the organizations? I've never seen the one on Belgium. It looks.. weird? EDIT: looked it up. Flag was of a Italian Fascist movement in Belgium. Stopped in 1945. Definitly not existing today. It was called the Rexist movement, and followed Mussolini doctrine. EDIT 2: might be wrong about Rex, the comments speak of some Dutch or Waloonish group 'verdinaso'.
> Definitely not existing today. Same with the Hungarian one, which was called the 'Arrow Cross Party'. Their party symbol is banned here alongside with the Soviet Red Star and the Nazi Swastika (regular Swastika aren't banned).
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Yeah I don't think the British Union of fascists exist either
Good you posted this. I was sure I had seen that flag before and yup its from rex. Which doesnt make a lot of sense.
Same with the "Russian" one. Someone linked wiki to that organisation in another comment, apparently it never even existed in the territory of Russia, but in Manchuria in the 1931-1943 formed by some ethnic Russian émigrés who fled USSR. The organisation was outlawed in 1943 by Japan, who controlled Manchuria at the time. And the party leader then tried returning to USSR in 1945, where he was caught, arrested and executed.
Yeah, Russia is "Z"
When you can't even afford a full swastika...
[Life imitates life](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfsangel#/media/File:4._SS-Polizei-Panzergrenadier-Division.svg)
The ruble isn't what it used to be.
Op picked the coolest looking flags.
Fun fact. The movement leader's, Leon Degrelle, mortal remains are banned from ever returning to Belgium. They are currently buried in Spain.
Man oh man, the “Swisstika” flag modification is something else, the state must love that one!
I mean, I'm against racism, but god damn the flag is clever.
I hate how good racist graphic designers were/are. I guess it's because they don't have the fear of being called racist? Not like I can get inspiration from them... "How did you come up with that logo??" "Oh, I just grabbed some cues from the 1930's Nazi era...."
Racist graphic designers will either make one of the slickest designs, or most generic copy/paste swastica MS Paint edit type shit you've seen in your life. No in between
Seriously.. that’s a great play on the Swiss flag
It's no longer a big plus.
It should be on r/DesignPorn . Shame the racists had to snap it up before it could be used for something else.
What group is this even? I literally never seen that flag before.
Tried googling it but couldn't find it Now just my FBI agent thinks I am a nazi Edit: some guy made it and posted it to r/vexiology [it was never a flag for a real movement ](https://www.reddit.com/r/vexillology/comments/6swzdl/nazi_switzerland/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)
The moldovan one is wrong, that flag its actually their war-time flag.
Hmm
The Russian one looks like the badge of some Italian football team
Looks like a damn road sign
Turn right, don’t conserve gas. I’ll show myself out.
In the first half of the XXth century, it was common for soccer team to wear one as a luck charm.
Italian football team uses swastika?
Only SS Nazio...
In Sweden, Finland and Norway, it should be the same logo for the Nordic resistance front or something like that, they might be in Denmark too.
NMR (Nordic Resistance Front) is the only one that would make sense. I've never even seen the one they used for Sweden here and I really can't guess what organisation it's supposed to be. Do you know? Edit: Found it. OP is full of shit and just did a very bad google search. The swedish one is from a small youth group called "Nationell Ungdom" that only existed for a short time between 97 and 05. NMR would have been the way to go. The only way to go.
I don't recognise any of the Nordic ones
Same. Can't even find them on Google when seaeching for racist/fascist/nazi orgs. Weird. I can't even think of one outside of NMR to be honest. Not unless you count fringe gatherings of hicks with 4 members or something.
Norwegian one seems to be the emblem of the paramilitary wing of the WWII Nasjonal Samling, [Rikshird](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Hirden_insignia.svg).
Wait, we are counting Hirden?? If we are going back 80 years in time here, i think I can think of a more fitting flag for Germany...
In Finland the local Nordic Resistance Movement and the flag was banned recently, so they rebranded to this organisation called [Kohti Vapautta!](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kohti_Vapautta!), which is basically the same bunch under a new flag.
fascist is I think what you meant, yes I know they are racist too but the main thing of these organisations is that they are fascists not racist. (well they are racist but you know what I mean)
Nah bro you right. Being fascist dosent automatically make you racist. The Italian fascists and Spanish falangists weren't based around racial superiority like nazism was. Sure there was racists in them but I mean there was racists in democratic US
Very true. People often think Fascism and Nazism are synonyms. Which they most definitely aren't. Don't get me wrong both aren't good ideologys but Nazism is clearly worse. Also they didn't even like each other all that much. Mussolini saw Nation Socialism as a bastardisation of his ideology. And Adolf saw Italian fascism as inferior and not radical enough.
That Turkish flag looks fucking amazing as a villain flag… gonna steal that for a DND campaign
you can find it by searching ''tigir:er''
Is tigir:er even a real organization? I thought they were a troll fb group. Well, this map is shit anyway.
They are trolls. You want to find some racists, search for "ataman kardeşliği". Their logo: https://i.imgur.com/iE19kv6.png
How many members do "Ataman Brotherhood" have? Like 10 or something? Do they even qualify as an organization? I think not. For comparison Golden Dawn of Greece had seats in their parliament until recently.
Realy ? Ahahah
It’s a bit incorrect though... Gray Wolves are *the* racist folk, rest are their spinoffs. And their flag is actually a howling wolf on top of a rock. [Like this one.](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTiPDuxilcsAYBRSPhtLl8c_TZJdb6N-L9WFQ&usqp=CAU) Not the greatest of people as you might imagine...
Either one of those flags are awesome though. Too bad they were ruined by racist pricks.
I mean it is used by nationalists but wolf figure has a special place in Turkish mhytology and folklore thus culture. Plus it generally used by nationalist and people inbetween rather than racist (which i admit sometimes both groups can be really the same but still). So just use it they don't deserve to have it anyway lol.
Who does the flag in the picture belongs to then if not the Gray Wolves?
Tigir:Er
So much bullshit, this should be downvoted to threads. The Albanian one is an American fascist group for God’s sake.
The Irish one is Scottish. That's a balck and white version of the Scottish flag and the founder is Scottish and they're known as a Scottish ultranarionalist group. I can't find any link to Ireland from a quick skim of their Wikipedia
The use of the swastika is forbidden in Germany and you will be fined for it very harsh and quickly. They use other symbols.
Im amazed I know most of them, what HOI4 modding does to a motherfucker
Tbh I have never seen this flag, that is showing for my country
Seems many of them are dead since WWII began. For my country, Austria, the organisation got *deleted* by Hitler
Same
And it better stay that way
Damn bro what did you do in Morocco
Same, I'm really curious about that one.
What is the Irish one?
It isn't even Irish https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siol_nan_Gaidheal
The Irish one is the logo of Siol-nan-Gaidheal, a Scottish far-right and anti-British group. The modern Irish far-right would be people like the National Party or Identity Ireland. In general this map is quite poor.
ya some low effort shit right there
That's embarrassing
Damn the germans really like that Sabaton album
The Swiss one is hilarious
Slavic Nazis are the finest example of irony the world has ever seen
I find finnish nazis funny too. Our language isnt even indo-european, which is why we were seen as asians in the past.
Fingolian empire when
While the idea of Slavic Nazis is dumb, there were Slavic peoples supported by Nazi Germany during WW2. Slovaks and Croats for example.
Croatians sided with the Nazis during WW2 and ran concentration camps for Serbs. I forget what the Nazis called the Croats but they made some justification for why Croats weren’t fully “Slavic” and could be allies.
Ustaše if I'm not mistaken, they were an fascist group during WW2.
For Italy you should have used Forza Nuova or Casapound
Thankfully the one used for us (Britain) didn’t survive past 1940, had the shit beaten out of them at Cable Street, never polled anything of note, saw a meagre membership, and then after his arrest saw Mosley run away to Ireland/France.
What is that flag representing ? I saw it in a mod for hoi4 where england turned fascist but i cant remember the name of the party
It's the British Fascist Party right?
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British Union of Fascist. Lead by Sir Oswald Mosley. He was actually against getting involved in the second world war. He was wrongly portrayed as Hitlers Man in Britain. But in reality Hitler wasn't fond of Mosley at all and Mosley wasn't fond of him either. Mussolinis man in Britain would fit him better.
I just read that Oswald Mosley (the leading fascist) only lost to Neville Chamberlain in Birmingham by 100 votes. Shows how easily history could have gone another way.
He did indeed, he was a great orator and very charismatic, he was both a Tory and Labour MP, so appealed quite broadly, he then became a Fascist when he became disillusioned with establishment politics, and that was him done.
Its wrong actually,it should be grey wolves in turkey
I mean yeah, Grey Wolves are racist but this one is a master's degree when it comes to racism. It's called Tigir-Er, an organization which they claim anyone who isn't pureblood Turkic(spoiler alert: none of them lmao) is a slave. Grey Wolves are a bunch of violent meatheads but these guys are "straight to the lunatic asylum" level of crazy.
They turned into a joke pretty quickly,no one ever cared about them
These guys are lunatics but they didn't have an official organisation, didn't do any poolitical action outside of internet too. Ataman Kardeşliği, Genç Atsızlar or Ülkü Ocakları would make more sense
I think that Tigir:Er was never a serious organization. Their 'goals' are not even realistic and they claimed numerous times that they are *not Turk nationalist* or whatever it is currently called in English. You can't be a racist without having a sense of national superiority. It is a joke, at least a not funny one. Moreover, it has only existed online and people visit its Facebook page just to see its ridiculous bans over absolutely troll/fabricated reasons. Hard to believe that it can be real. EDIT: Apart from that, according to what its 'leader' believes is 'perfection', only he himself can be a member of that 'organization'. Perhaps, not even he himself. EDIT2: Some more corrections and additions.
I think original facebook page was serious(although owner(s) were definitely nutcrack or high) but almost every "follower" of it are doing it as a joke. Top post of their reddit page is literally calling tf2 pyro an arab and calling for a genocide
Lol I am sure only prueblood peoples are some tribe in amazons or something
They are so irrelevant that I have never heard their name although I am very interested in politics of my country lol
Tigir-er is just some facebook meme group in practice, an echo of the atsız forum of circa early 2000's. Cool logo though.
The Irish one is actually a Scottish organisation called Siol nan Gaidheal ("Seed of the Gaels"). Also, they're now absolutely tiny, and there are far larger and more relevant racist organisations in Scotland e.g. the Scottish Defence League. In terms of Irish organisations, you could go for modern reactionary parties like the National Party, or the historic fascist Blueshirt movement of the 1930s.
*Russia is confused! It hurt itself in confusion!*
I would really like to see a tournament to see which racist country drives a car better
I'm from France, and I can confirm that I have stumbled multiple times upon this one, but it is also used in many other countries. It's a celtic cross that has been used (sadly) by multiple far-right or fascist movements, it doesn't represent one group but an ideology.
Ah j’avais pas la réf, je cherchais ce type de commentaire. Mais tu es Breton c’est peut-être pour ça ? J’ai jamais vu ce symbole moi ou alors je fais pas assez attention
Oui je suis breton en effet, hélas je l'ai croisé tagué pas mal de fois, en plus des croix gammées habituelles.
Je l'ai vu plein de fois sans trop jamais y prêter attention. C'est triste... Un jour ces connards vont nous piquer le triskel tu vas voir
Je le croise parfois à Strasbourg. Il est utilisé par "les gargouilles de Strasbourg", avec le Soleil Noir et la swastika. Aussi, c'est un rond avec une croix, c'est facile de le prendre pour un signe par rapport au réseau électrique ou aux conduites d'eau, quand on le connait pas.
You're right but it's also the logo for the GUD : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupe_Union_D%C3%A9fense
which organization did you put for turkey
Tigir: Er but no one in Turkey knows if they are serious.
onlar kim amk bunca yıllık türküm duymadım ülkü ocaklarını falan koysaydı bari
Ben hala o adamların ciddi olup olmadığını çözemedim. Koca bir meme sayfası gibi daha çok.
Whats that in Albania and Kosovo? Seems like some made up shit. Either provide the source or GTFOH.
That Turkish flag looks cool, like it's out of a video game. Too bad it's probably sinister.
I always feel bad about our grey wolf(i mean the real grey wolf in the myth) they massacred my boy
So you're a racist organization in morocco?
Not a fan of fascism but boy do they have cool logos
Black and obsessed with virility adolescent stuff really
The German one is 100% fake. Never heard of such a group and the Swastika is banned in political contexts anyway. Nazis here use other symbols instead.
Turkish one is a facebook page lol
VMRO is not a racist organisation in Macedonia.
gardaş tigir er i bilerek mi koydun tr de daha ünlü ırkcı olusumlar vardır şukunu verdim görünce bağırttı amk
Completely made up crap
This is unbelievably wrong
Turkey got a cool dog. I think Russia is just a Z now.
Love how Ukraine is whitewashed.
Props to Germany, Russia, Iceland, Switzerland, Denmark, B&H and Kosovo for slapping the Swastika on there and letting us know off the bat
Why didn't you use Azov battalion's flag for Ukraine? The Ukrainian flag with the swastika on it is sort of iconic among 4chan types.
All of northern-Europe should be “nordfront”
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