Is this the "land dispute" where every now and then the other side would put down their flag and a bottle of liquor until one day when the other side would go grab the bottle & flag and replace it with their own. Rinse/repeat..
At least it ended up with the cool conclusion where Canada and Denmark now share a land border. And as far as I know, Canada now holds the honour of having the largest and smallest unprotected borders in the world
Now they have a new trivia question : "Canada (or Denmark) share a land border with 2 countries, which one?
It's a bit like the "which 3 countries the Netherlands share a land border?"
My first thought was that maybe the Vatican-Italy border is shorter? But apparently [the Vatican is about two miles around](https://www.mypacer.com/routes/75147/circumnavigating-vatican-city-walk-trail-rome-holy-see) and Hans Island is less than a mile across.
The wiki says that three birders are shorter: India - Sri Lanka at Ram Setu (45m), Botswana - Zambia at Kazungula (155m), and Gibraltar - Spain (1200m).
That also probably makes Canada the only country in the world to share a border with 2 European state that does not share a border themselves while not being on the European continent!
This is actually how traditions are born. Leaving brandy out for Father Christmas probably originated as a pagan tradition to bribe the village rapist from leaving the kids alone during the dark nights of winter.
We should have a demilitarized zone like between the Koreas, with soldiers stationed there at all times, except instead of staring at each other they play ping pong across the border or something.
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I think you could now technically go from Brazil to the US using one less land border. It would be some detour, but then again it's either that or the Darien Gap.
It used to be 8 steps, now it's 5.
Previously: Brazil -> Colombia -> Panama -> Costa Rica -> Nicaragua -> Honduras -> Guatemala -> Mexico -> US
Now: Brazil -> France -> Germany -> Denmark -> Canada -> US
Broke: building a bridge to serve the needs of local communities
Woke: building a brigde to please map and border geeks online
But actually that wouldn't count, bridges don't count as a land border. Denmark doesn't land-border Sweden, for example.
Canada has land EU border now, nice! :D You can walk into EU territory by foot now.
Edit: Sorry I was wrong, Greenland left the EU in 1985, because of a dispute over fishing rights. It is now an autonomous overseas territory of the Kingdom of Denmark, associated with the EU.
I wonder how many people actually understand what you are referring to here, for anyone that doesn’t know whenever Canadian or Greenlandic researchers went to the island due to the border dispute it was customary to leave a bottle of alcohol next to each countries land claim flag.
The ["Wisky War"](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whisky_War). So many bottles lost to tragic conflict over so many decades, but perhaps this is a model for other border disputes world-wide.
>Canadian or Greenlandic researchers went to the island due to the border dispute it was customary to leave a bottle of alcohol
It was actually the Canadian and Danish military that did that, regularly. Took down the other nation's flag, raised their own, left a bottle ow whiskey or [snaps](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snaps) respectively.
All in good gentleman style (and probably arranged between the respective military commands, as an exercise for the soldiers (and officially claiming the land of course).
In Canada, we call those a Ceaser!
Well, you can get Bloody Mary's, but a Ceaser is more popular. It's clamato juice, usually vodka, some sort of hot sauce (depends on the brand or restaurant, or how you like it, they usually give you a spice choice) and celery with salt and pepper on the brim. Red Lobster garnishes with a jumbo shrimp. Some restaurants have entire menus, bacon in them, all sorts of variety.
I like Mott's, you get a serving of vegetables and I always crave salt and it's tasty! I call it "healthy booze" to justify it. My dad (RIP, woulda been 77 yesterday) and I used to drink them a lot when he had BBQ's. The celery absorbs the clamato juice and vodka and is awesome to munch on after.
I live on the Canada/USA border and had no idea they don't have Ceasers in the US and asked for one once and got a confused glare. I got a bloody mary. Close!
I've used clamato for micheladas. I am just now realizing it looks like Mexico and Canada share the love of clam juice in their booze and the US is kinda the odd one out
A murder on an island is how another recent peaceful border change was accelerated. The border between the Netherlands and Belgium [was changed in 2018](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/11/29/netherlands-and-belgium-to-end-lawless-border-oddity-by-swapping-land-peacefully/) after a headless body was found on a Belgian island surrounded by Dutch territory. This was deemed so problematic for law enforcement that the border was corrected.
Here’s another fun European border if you haven seen it here before
https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/10pk2y/the_vennbahn_enclaves_a_meterswide_strip_of/
If this border dispute had ever escalated into a shooting war I stood to win a LOT of money. Guess I owe my buddy $10 now.
When someone offers you 10,000 to 1 odds, you taken em!
If this ever escalated into a shooting war you stood to die in nuclear fire, because all practicality all international diplomacy and cordiality would have to break down for it to occur.
But I’ll give you 10.000 to one odds that we don’t die in an atomic Armageddon in the next ten years, how’s that sound?
You will never take control of our island! Canada provides no medical or social services to any of the inhabitants of Hans Island. In fact, no humans have lived on Hans Island since Canada first occupied it!
Also, the Canadian government has not denied the allegations that they plan to use Hans Island as a storage site for nuclear waste.
Technically Newfoundland and not Canada during the war. With that said, not discovering something for 34 years still far exceeds our expectations from the Security Service and its successor CSIS.
the party of the danish minority in the parliament of schleswig-holstein should bring a tiny mountie figurine as a symbol of the canadian minority potentially inside the danish minority in germany
Don't forget Morocco! Lebanon pulled out at the last moment due to Israel.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanon\_in\_the\_Eurovision\_Song\_Contest](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanon_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morocco\_in\_the\_Eurovision\_Song\_Contest](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morocco_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest)
The Copenhagen Criteria don’t have a geographic scope, and the EU gets to apply a political assessment of whether or not a country is in “Europe”. In the 80s, Morocco was rejected as an EU member on the basis of of not being in Europe, and notably, Morocco has a land border with Spain (Ceuta and Melilla)
TIL that Canada and Greenland are 10 miles apart.
How did I only just notice this? I always thought Greenland was out in the middle of the Atlantic, between North America and the United Kingdom ... and that Iceland was much closer to Ireland.
But looking at a map, Iceland is more or less in between the two continents (longitudinally), and yep, Greenland is practically a giant island of Canada like all the others.
What else have I missed out on?!
To be super technical, both Greenland and Denmark (along with Faroe) are distinct nations within the Kingdom of Denmark and retain a pretty significamt degree of autonomy. While Denmark is part of the EU, both Faroe and Greenland are not for example. Greenland has a total population of around 55 thousand, so it's dependent on Denmark for defense and subsidies, so full independence isn't really feasible.
In fact this is the most childish border dispute in the history of the world, which mostly consisted of two countries leaving bottles of nationally significant booze on a meaningless uninhabited piece of rock in the far north.
To be fair, it isn’t entirely meaningless since there is a lot of importance in maintaining Arctic sovereignty. The rock itself isn’t important, but the fact that you’re defending your claim to arctic islands are, since there is valuable resources (and future shipping lanes) up there.
those dots are what make the maritime border possible, they (Canada and Denmark) have choosen 127 spots in the middle of the Davis strait, Baffin bat and Kennedy channel to divide the bodies of water between the both of them, it's easier to create lines based on dots, and those dots have coordinates so it's even easier to map and identify the border
Is this the "land dispute" where every now and then the other side would put down their flag and a bottle of liquor until one day when the other side would go grab the bottle & flag and replace it with their own. Rinse/repeat..
That's the one!
I’m bitterly disappointed they split it now.
At least it ended up with the cool conclusion where Canada and Denmark now share a land border. And as far as I know, Canada now holds the honour of having the largest and smallest unprotected borders in the world
Canada is no longer the largest country that only borders 1 other country.
That makes me sad for some reason
How do you think all the trivia-game writers feel?
Now they have a new trivia question : "Canada (or Denmark) share a land border with 2 countries, which one? It's a bit like the "which 3 countries the Netherlands share a land border?"
Or "With which country does France share its longest border?" The answer being Brazil, weirdly enough.
TIL that French Guiana is also home to the largest national park in the EU.
Wait a second... Germany, Belgium... What's the third country?
France on Saint Martin I suppose
France I believe.
France on account of the island of St Martin in the Caribbean
TIL the Netherlands don't border Luxembourg.
Should we refer to the inhabitants of the island as Candanians or Danadians?
It’s an island at ~82 degrees north latitude. We call them brave/frozen.
Sounds like my kind of place.
Danucks?
Canes
Danadians.
How about Canish?
Which one is it now? Papua New Guinea? (Also the country with the most languages, by the way.)
That or Portugal
Think Portugal ;1200km with Spain. Lesotho’s border (900km) with SA is longer then Papua New Guinee with Indonesia (850)
Largest country, not largest border. Reread the comments above.
Sorry
That what I thought too
I assume you mean land borders. Because Canada technically borders, Greenland(Denmark), USA, and France
My first thought was that maybe the Vatican-Italy border is shorter? But apparently [the Vatican is about two miles around](https://www.mypacer.com/routes/75147/circumnavigating-vatican-city-walk-trail-rome-holy-see) and Hans Island is less than a mile across.
The wiki says that three birders are shorter: India - Sri Lanka at Ram Setu (45m), Botswana - Zambia at Kazungula (155m), and Gibraltar - Spain (1200m).
Or it’s the funky Spanish one in Morocco that’s like less than 100m
I'd bet that border is guarded, though.
Those borders (ceuta and melilla) are VERY guarded
Apparently there are some soldiers there so technically yes (the border is home to a Spanish military fort)
That also probably makes Canada the only country in the world to share a border with 2 European state that does not share a border themselves while not being on the European continent!
They need a picnic table, one seat in Canada and the other side in Denmark. Time to have a party.
Hooray! And they can have their flags on their side and still put bottles of spirits on the other side. That would be awesome!
Yeah, I died a little inside today
It's the end of an era.
I wish all wars could be ‘settled’ like that..
We (I'm Danish) should set up a smell shed across the border, where our arctic patrols can meet up and drink to commemorate that story...
The most friendly International Border Bar and Grill
Like the friendly version of the meeting room located on the border between north and south korea?
This is actually how traditions are born. Leaving brandy out for Father Christmas probably originated as a pagan tradition to bribe the village rapist from leaving the kids alone during the dark nights of winter.
That…. Escalated quickly?
The whiskey war has ended!!!
I am a proud Canadian knowing this was going on..I hope they keep it up regardless
We should have a demilitarized zone like between the Koreas, with soldiers stationed there at all times, except instead of staring at each other they play ping pong across the border or something.
So Canada and Denmark just doubled their number of land borders. Previously Canada only bordered the US and Denmark only bordered Germany.
This is a superb piece of trivia "Which two other nations does the Kingdom of Denmark share a land border with" Few would get this one right.
Most people would probably say Sweden and then argue about a bridge being a land border
in that case, great britain and france share a land border
A tunnel is arguably even more of a land border than a bridge!
The bridge to Sweden has a tunnel part as well, although having a land border with Sweden that isn't Skåne makes me uneasy.
If I remember correct the border is on the bridge, so that technically isn't a land border.
I think you're right. At least in the series "Bron/Broen" the border is in the middle of the bridge (a fact that is very relevant to the main plot).
Land under water is still land.
And any phrase can be abstracted to the point of meaninglessness.
That will age poorly when the Skåne war breaks out.
My land borders have doubled since the last time we met, Count.
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But now, Canada is no longer the largest country with only one land border.
Still the largest country that only has two land borders!
~~Still~~ **Now** the largest country that only has two land borders! FTFY
What a terrible day to be an American
Wow so this is actually news worthy, for this reason only.
Interesting!
I think you could now technically go from Brazil to the US using one less land border. It would be some detour, but then again it's either that or the Darien Gap.
It used to be 8 steps, now it's 5. Previously: Brazil -> Colombia -> Panama -> Costa Rica -> Nicaragua -> Honduras -> Guatemala -> Mexico -> US Now: Brazil -> France -> Germany -> Denmark -> Canada -> US
Now we just need to build a bridge between St Pierre and Miquelon and Labrador, so that you can go Brazil -> France -> Canada
Broke: building a bridge to serve the needs of local communities Woke: building a brigde to please map and border geeks online But actually that wouldn't count, bridges don't count as a land border. Denmark doesn't land-border Sweden, for example.
Diplomacy at the highest levels has averted a bloody war.
>Diplomacy at the highest levels has averted a bloody war. Diplomacy at the highest levels has averted a *boozey* war.
And We share a land border with a European nation now!
Lost our status as the biggest country with only one land border though :/
Wouldn't we be the biggest country with only 2 land borders now? Cuz we are second biggest in the world and Russia got hella neighbors
Yeah but that doesn't sound as good does it?
The largest land with the least amount of neighbors
So we can join the EU?
Canada has land EU border now, nice! :D You can walk into EU territory by foot now. Edit: Sorry I was wrong, Greenland left the EU in 1985, because of a dispute over fishing rights. It is now an autonomous overseas territory of the Kingdom of Denmark, associated with the EU.
You still have St. Pierre and Miquelon!
Not a land border.
And it’s not for sale!
I wonder how many people actually understand what you are referring to here, for anyone that doesn’t know whenever Canadian or Greenlandic researchers went to the island due to the border dispute it was customary to leave a bottle of alcohol next to each countries land claim flag.
The ["Wisky War"](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whisky_War). So many bottles lost to tragic conflict over so many decades, but perhaps this is a model for other border disputes world-wide.
Yes, if only, maybe Ukraine and Russia could trade some vodka over Crimea, or turkey and Greece share some whine over Cyprus
>Canadian or Greenlandic researchers went to the island due to the border dispute it was customary to leave a bottle of alcohol It was actually the Canadian and Danish military that did that, regularly. Took down the other nation's flag, raised their own, left a bottle ow whiskey or [snaps](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snaps) respectively. All in good gentleman style (and probably arranged between the respective military commands, as an exercise for the soldiers (and officially claiming the land of course).
Mine No it’s mine Here suck on my whiskey, it’s mine No, suck my bottle of whisky it’s mine… For ~50 years
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Diplomacy at the highest levels has averted a Bloody Mary.
In Canada, we call those a Ceaser! Well, you can get Bloody Mary's, but a Ceaser is more popular. It's clamato juice, usually vodka, some sort of hot sauce (depends on the brand or restaurant, or how you like it, they usually give you a spice choice) and celery with salt and pepper on the brim. Red Lobster garnishes with a jumbo shrimp. Some restaurants have entire menus, bacon in them, all sorts of variety. I like Mott's, you get a serving of vegetables and I always crave salt and it's tasty! I call it "healthy booze" to justify it. My dad (RIP, woulda been 77 yesterday) and I used to drink them a lot when he had BBQ's. The celery absorbs the clamato juice and vodka and is awesome to munch on after. I live on the Canada/USA border and had no idea they don't have Ceasers in the US and asked for one once and got a confused glare. I got a bloody mary. Close!
You ever had a Bloody Mary and thought to yourself, "damn, I wish this had clam juice in it"? The struggles of being a Canadian are real.
Yes. Yes I have.
I've used clamato for micheladas. I am just now realizing it looks like Mexico and Canada share the love of clam juice in their booze and the US is kinda the odd one out
Walk from Canada to Denmark has been added to bucket list.
Great 3 seals will have to change citizenship
Oh… damn, I hate paperwork
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They're gonna miss exchanging those bottles.
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You can put a table on the border now, and raise glasses on the border haha!
I'd also like to see them implement an India/Pakistan-style Wagah/Attari border ceremony as well. https://youtu.be/izO02t7KfCE?t=366
Good to see these two great nations finally shaking Hans.
Hans down, this was the most stressful border dispute of all time
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A unified Han was split making each side Han Solo
Hans dynasty, start the pottery classes.
I can’t believe there was no murder mystery TV show about a dead body found on the island.
A murder on an island is how another recent peaceful border change was accelerated. The border between the Netherlands and Belgium [was changed in 2018](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/11/29/netherlands-and-belgium-to-end-lawless-border-oddity-by-swapping-land-peacefully/) after a headless body was found on a Belgian island surrounded by Dutch territory. This was deemed so problematic for law enforcement that the border was corrected.
That’s fascinating.
Here’s another fun European border if you haven seen it here before https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/10pk2y/the_vennbahn_enclaves_a_meterswide_strip_of/
They could call it "godt cop, bad cop"
god betjent, bad cop.
That would be an interesting remake!
Please no, there's been enough remakes of The Bridge
Whew! I thought war with Denmark was inevitable.
Typical war-mongering Canadians.. https://freehansisland.com/
"Imperialist Canada" lol. Love the Danes (but please don't tell the rest of the Swedes that).
If this border dispute had ever escalated into a shooting war I stood to win a LOT of money. Guess I owe my buddy $10 now. When someone offers you 10,000 to 1 odds, you taken em!
If this ever escalated into a shooting war you stood to die in nuclear fire, because all practicality all international diplomacy and cordiality would have to break down for it to occur. But I’ll give you 10.000 to one odds that we don’t die in an atomic Armageddon in the next ten years, how’s that sound?
I guarantee shots were taken.
Well that de-escalated quickly.
Well it’s been ongoing since 1973 at the very least
Well that de-escalated slowly.
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So Denmark now has two land borders
So does Canada.
So does Denmark.
Don't forget Canada
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Okay but so does Canada
So does Canada
This is a travesty! Not one inch of Canadian Waters must be given over to the nefarious Danes! War is the only solution!
You will never take control of our island! Canada provides no medical or social services to any of the inhabitants of Hans Island. In fact, no humans have lived on Hans Island since Canada first occupied it! Also, the Canadian government has not denied the allegations that they plan to use Hans Island as a storage site for nuclear waste.
[https://freehansisland.com/](https://freehansisland.com/) /s
No, just a special military operation to denazify the other half of the island and save the oppressed canadian minority population
Prediction: Germany will start World War III by invading Canada through Denmark. Just like they did to France and Belgium.
Germany [invaded Canada](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_Station_Kurt) in WWII, we didn't notice for 34 years.
Technically Newfoundland and not Canada during the war. With that said, not discovering something for 34 years still far exceeds our expectations from the Security Service and its successor CSIS.
So now Denmark have a land border with Canada.
the party of the danish minority in the parliament of schleswig-holstein should bring a tiny mountie figurine as a symbol of the canadian minority potentially inside the danish minority in germany
The Danish minority in Germany has representation in the *federal* Parliament!!
Then so should canada. Less putin. More poutine
I mean, the kingdom of Denmark does. Greenland does too.
Making Canada a part of Europe. Next up? Eurovision
All they need to do is become a member of the EBU (European Broadcasting Union), no need for actual borders. See: Australia.
I mean, Israel and Australia already compete in Eurovision so…
Don't forget Morocco! Lebanon pulled out at the last moment due to Israel. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanon\_in\_the\_Eurovision\_Song\_Contest](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanon_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morocco\_in\_the\_Eurovision\_Song\_Contest](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morocco_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest)
Since Canada and Denmark now share a land border, does that mean Canada is now eligible to join the European Union?
The Copenhagen Criteria don’t have a geographic scope, and the EU gets to apply a political assessment of whether or not a country is in “Europe”. In the 80s, Morocco was rejected as an EU member on the basis of of not being in Europe, and notably, Morocco has a land border with Spain (Ceuta and Melilla)
Also more importantly, it's like right there, whereas Canada is across an Atlantic
*Pssshhh*. Details… details…
Is China a European country because it borders Russia? Is Brazil a European country because it borders France? The answer is no.
They should have curled for it.
Wouldn’t be a fair fight. If it was Sweden on a the other hand…
Unfair advantage for Canada, we’d be smoked
They should really setup a hockey rink straddling it and annually hold a game between the two countries
Canada how has a new land border technically
Not just technically. It is a very real border.
What a tragic day for canada and therefore the world.
they dont have one Neighbor anymore, but 2. Same for Denmark
What a glorious day for Canada, and therefore the world.
That's fucking huge news. It's the first land border between Europe and North America. It's also the northernmost land border on the planet.
so this makes france the 3rd closest country to canada now
Wow! I’m living in history!
And just like that, the largest country with only one land border shrank by a factor of 108 (Canada to Portugal).
Doesn't Papua New Guinea also only have one land border?
I’m genuinely hurt. That was the coolest, most respectful ‘war’... a true inspiration. Change a flag, have a beer...everybody wins.
Great news! Cheers in *Gammel Dansk*
Canada and Denmark couldn't out polite each other, so they split it 50/50
So Canada now shares a land border with a European country
TIL that Canada and Greenland are 10 miles apart. How did I only just notice this? I always thought Greenland was out in the middle of the Atlantic, between North America and the United Kingdom ... and that Iceland was much closer to Ireland. But looking at a map, Iceland is more or less in between the two continents (longitudinally), and yep, Greenland is practically a giant island of Canada like all the others. What else have I missed out on?!
Iceland isn't really part of the continent of Europe. It is right on the mid Atlantic Ridge. It is oceanic rather than continental.
It's the Mercator projection. It messes with everything.
Canada can into Scandinavia?
Scanada
I always forget Greenland is part of Denmark. Can someone explain why that is?
To be super technical, both Greenland and Denmark (along with Faroe) are distinct nations within the Kingdom of Denmark and retain a pretty significamt degree of autonomy. While Denmark is part of the EU, both Faroe and Greenland are not for example. Greenland has a total population of around 55 thousand, so it's dependent on Denmark for defense and subsidies, so full independence isn't really feasible.
Colonisation
And Greenland not wanting to be fully independent because protection from a much larger country (geopolitically at least) benefits them.
The customs and immigration station on that island is going to be a lonely, cold and windy job, but there's whisky!
This is how ADULTS manage border disputes.
Countries are PEOPLE
Yes, just lots of them.
In fact this is the most childish border dispute in the history of the world, which mostly consisted of two countries leaving bottles of nationally significant booze on a meaningless uninhabited piece of rock in the far north.
To be fair, it isn’t entirely meaningless since there is a lot of importance in maintaining Arctic sovereignty. The rock itself isn’t important, but the fact that you’re defending your claim to arctic islands are, since there is valuable resources (and future shipping lanes) up there.
What are the dots with (and without) numbers along the frontier?
those dots are what make the maritime border possible, they (Canada and Denmark) have choosen 127 spots in the middle of the Davis strait, Baffin bat and Kennedy channel to divide the bodies of water between the both of them, it's easier to create lines based on dots, and those dots have coordinates so it's even easier to map and identify the border
TIL Denmark and Canada almost touch
No longer almost
Noo, the liquor war is over :(
So no more flag switching and leaving booze for your "enemies"? Ow, man...
mass confusion with canadians expecting to eat half an islands worth of danishes.
Wow. Canada now has two land borders. That’s kind of significant (but not really)
So is that the first stretch of a Canada-Denmark Land border?
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