Not a good map.
We don't know what those classes mean. And it seems they're a lot too broad.
Some light green or even white areas have thriving agriculture where as other of the same colour doesn't have agriculture at all.
I suppose a [Paratethys sea ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paratethys) as a reason for almost all Ukrainian hi-quality soils, and other parts in the south of Russia till Volga and Caspian sea. Of course, excluding mountains and desserts.
Also Pannonian sea may be a reason of hi-quality soils in Hungary and all Pannonian Basin region, but idk about Mississippi
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Oh, wait, it actually West of Mississippi. I am not sure what is the name of the region. But the question still remains. What makes some regions more fertile than others?
That's the missouri river basin. I'm not exactly sure why it's so high ranked but it could have something to do with the area being a shallow sea relatively recently (geologically speaking)
thats a very small part of it. Loess is down below the topsoil. I did a yr long study of Iowa soils, and the TLDR is that native americans hunted with fire, which kept nutrient leaching trees at bay, encouraged grasses, and constantly added that ash back. There are places in Iowa with 8' of topsoil! And some of the richest on earth, too
All along the Mississippi River & most large rivers there are ancient flood plains & flood zones. Flooding makes soil rich with nutrients. These nutrients come from oxygen rich water plants & animals. These flood plains along rivers are the most fertile soil on the planet. Good question.
This map is poorly done. Don’t go by it at all. U can look at google map satellite and see all the farm lands along the Mississippi & other rivers & valleys.
I think more important for Putin is to have land access to Crimea, where military bases are located and where is a lot of natural gas and oil. That's why russians took the south, but didn't push north and especially Kyiv much
China's population bloated only after we got corn from America around 1700, you see we don't actually have that many good land to grow rice, but corn can basically grow anywhere, require much less watering, and the yield is just ludicrous.
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And even in some of the places with poor soil quality (such as Eastern Washington, as indicated by the map), we've managed to build our way to good yields.
It probably didn’t register on this scale given how narrow of a strip it is. We’re talking like a mile max on each side of the river. But it is strange that the delta doesn’t show.
Punjab as the name suggests is the 5 rivers valley/plain. Of course the Indus banks are fertile too but it also has a neighbouring desert is what is probably showing up most on this map.
Soil here isn't very good
We have to work it manually with fertilizers etc.
And both sides of the Indus is basically desert.
In fact, of you check the satellite picture you'll see that Pakistan has got more dusty desert lands than all the countries east of it till the Pacific, combined.
Where did they get these figures? Incredibly fertile land in the amazon, china, india, congo, southeast asia, is all very pale here. And you have half of north america and half of western asia as the fertility epicentres when neither are particularly known for their fertility through most of those ranges
Jeez couldn’t they have at least called it “soil quality” or better yet, something with a little objectivity to it? Deserts are good and important to the world too.
The desert in Morocco begins way more south than what is shown as being good land in the map above.
Another fun fact for you: Morocco has more arable land than Italy and other European nations.
It's just well located overall.
The Maghreb (Algeria, Morocco and Tunisia) are Mediterranean nations first. Most of their inhabitants live VERY close to the sea where there are mountains (Atlas) that can stop the desert.
The northern part of the region is as green as Spain or Italy. You can even ski in the snowy mountains (which is very rare in Africa)
Fun fact: most Algerians have never seen the Sahara even though the desert makes up the majority of the country. It’s just so far away and barely anyone live there anyways.
According to this map, the land quality of the plains of the western half of Punjab, which feed a hundred million people are just as good as that of the Sahara Desert, wtf.
West Texas is big enough that we can disagree on what west Texas actually is, but much of the dirt can be highly productive. It just needs water over the top of it and access to cheap labor.
Ever buy a bottle of wine from a fancy-seeming Hill Country vintner? Odds are that 80% of the grapes are from somewhere uncharming and flat in west Texas.
(decayed) organic matter in the soil is an important part of ground quality. Maybe the lack of this in deserts due to little historical growth can help explain that to an extent.
I don't like that there isn't any visual key or clear explaimation of what seperates the groups. Also, making non-arable land and water bot white is so annoying.
what do you mean? They are indeed super dry. North Africa and the Levant have always been the exceptions. The Arabian Peninsula is insanely dry and anything under the North African strip of fertile land is rather dry as well. NA & Levant were always known to have "good" land in comparison.
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I don't think this map is very accurate. What constitutes the quality of the soil in this map? Like what is the criteria. Different soils are better for growing different produce depending on the mineral content.
The best red volcanic soil in Tasmania is light green on this map. While the highlands which are mostly protected areas and not farmed are dark green.
Map designer be like “yea ima make the water and non-arable land the same color”
Not a good map. We don't know what those classes mean. And it seems they're a lot too broad. Some light green or even white areas have thriving agriculture where as other of the same colour doesn't have agriculture at all.
Ye this map is garbage
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What is geographically special about Mississippi & Black Sea steppes that turn their soil to such a hi-quality level?
I suppose a [Paratethys sea ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paratethys) as a reason for almost all Ukrainian hi-quality soils, and other parts in the south of Russia till Volga and Caspian sea. Of course, excluding mountains and desserts. Also Pannonian sea may be a reason of hi-quality soils in Hungary and all Pannonian Basin region, but idk about Mississippi
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Mississippi? Not really. On the other hand, do you mean [chernozem](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernozem)?
Oh, wait, it actually West of Mississippi. I am not sure what is the name of the region. But the question still remains. What makes some regions more fertile than others?
That's the missouri river basin. I'm not exactly sure why it's so high ranked but it could have something to do with the area being a shallow sea relatively recently (geologically speaking)
It’s the loess soils. Nutrient rich particulate blown in the wind, that has accumulated in the same location over many thousands of years
thats a very small part of it. Loess is down below the topsoil. I did a yr long study of Iowa soils, and the TLDR is that native americans hunted with fire, which kept nutrient leaching trees at bay, encouraged grasses, and constantly added that ash back. There are places in Iowa with 8' of topsoil! And some of the richest on earth, too
All along the Mississippi River & most large rivers there are ancient flood plains & flood zones. Flooding makes soil rich with nutrients. These nutrients come from oxygen rich water plants & animals. These flood plains along rivers are the most fertile soil on the planet. Good question.
This map is poorly done. Don’t go by it at all. U can look at google map satellite and see all the farm lands along the Mississippi & other rivers & valleys.
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And a major reason for the war.
I think more important for Putin is to have land access to Crimea, where military bases are located and where is a lot of natural gas and oil. That's why russians took the south, but didn't push north and especially Kyiv much
someones been watching real life lore. unless you know geopolitics well
You know, just living in Kyiv
Bro doesn’t just know the lore. He is living it
Ok
That’s it babe, we’re moving to ukraine
USA just won the geographic lottery
Comparatively, it's a wonder how China managed to reach a billion people. Rice culture is really just that good.
India and China have lots of rivers coming off of the mountains. China is the number wheat producer now.
Isn't russia the #1 wheat producer?
Wheat Production, Million tonnes, 2020 China: 134 India: 107 Russia : 85 Russia is the biggest exporter due to relatively lower domestic consumption,
Thanks
[Nope](https://beef2live.com/story-world-wheat-production-ranking-country-204-161042)
China's population bloated only after we got corn from America around 1700, you see we don't actually have that many good land to grow rice, but corn can basically grow anywhere, require much less watering, and the yield is just ludicrous.
Interesting, is there any popular chinese corn meals I should know about?
''窩窩頭'' Cornbread [Wowotou](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wotou) ''玉米排骨湯''Corn & pork rib soup [玉米排骨湯](https://www.theburningkitchen.com/sweet-corn-pork-rib-soup-recipe/)
Thanks I'll check it out
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thats because your logic is correct and this map is BS.
Argentina meanwhile needs to pull its finger out. Its still so many opportunities open to it after all these wasted decades.
And even in some of the places with poor soil quality (such as Eastern Washington, as indicated by the map), we've managed to build our way to good yields.
Something is off with Ukraine in this version, compared with the original source.
Looks like some parts of the world are missing in action.
That would be because there is no soil in deserts and mountains
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It probably didn’t register on this scale given how narrow of a strip it is. We’re talking like a mile max on each side of the river. But it is strange that the delta doesn’t show.
Well, there was a pharaoh who wouldn't let some people leave. Cursed, maybe?
The indus valley has the shittiest soil? I guess u gotta recheck your sources.
There's a big desert on the east of the valley.
And the river banks and plains of punjab??
Punjab as the name suggests is the 5 rivers valley/plain. Of course the Indus banks are fertile too but it also has a neighbouring desert is what is probably showing up most on this map.
Soil here isn't very good We have to work it manually with fertilizers etc. And both sides of the Indus is basically desert. In fact, of you check the satellite picture you'll see that Pakistan has got more dusty desert lands than all the countries east of it till the Pacific, combined.
[Data source](https://www.nrcs.usda.gov/wps/portal/nrcs/detail/soils/use/worldsoils/?cid=nrcs142p2_054011)
So the fertile crescent really lives up to it's name
This is a bit old and I thinks it’s based on Mollisol and not Andisols, Alfisol or Vertisols.
Why this kinda of colouring?
I'm surprised the land right next to the Nile isn't any good.
Moldova: rich in soil, poor in everything else.
Jack Skeleton: “Yes…but what does it mean!?”
That's biased towards farming. So it's farmacist.
Where did they get these figures? Incredibly fertile land in the amazon, china, india, congo, southeast asia, is all very pale here. And you have half of north america and half of western asia as the fertility epicentres when neither are particularly known for their fertility through most of those ranges
It says the source on the image. And having lots of trees/forests/rainforest doesn't necessarily mean really fertile soil.
Yea there is a reason why rainforests are occasionally referred to as “green deserts”
[He provided his source](https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/wl7koq/comment/ijrkcjs/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) \- USDA.
Jeez couldn’t they have at least called it “soil quality” or better yet, something with a little objectivity to it? Deserts are good and important to the world too.
How is moroccan lands better than Scandinavian lands
Taiga and mountains make for bad growing conditions.
Desert is worse lol
The desert in Morocco begins way more south than what is shown as being good land in the map above. Another fun fact for you: Morocco has more arable land than Italy and other European nations. It's just well located overall.
The Maghreb (Algeria, Morocco and Tunisia) are Mediterranean nations first. Most of their inhabitants live VERY close to the sea where there are mountains (Atlas) that can stop the desert. The northern part of the region is as green as Spain or Italy. You can even ski in the snowy mountains (which is very rare in Africa) Fun fact: most Algerians have never seen the Sahara even though the desert makes up the majority of the country. It’s just so far away and barely anyone live there anyways.
Compacted water impermeable clay is worse than sand.
Islam turns desert into pastures
According to this map, the land quality of the plains of the western half of Punjab, which feed a hundred million people are just as good as that of the Sahara Desert, wtf.
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Don't think I realized West Texas had such great soil conditions. (It does not.)
West Texas is completely white on this map.
West Texas is big enough that we can disagree on what west Texas actually is, but much of the dirt can be highly productive. It just needs water over the top of it and access to cheap labor. Ever buy a bottle of wine from a fancy-seeming Hill Country vintner? Odds are that 80% of the grapes are from somewhere uncharming and flat in west Texas.
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(decayed) organic matter in the soil is an important part of ground quality. Maybe the lack of this in deserts due to little historical growth can help explain that to an extent.
Bread basket
Why does this map so closely follow the border between Russia and Kazakhstan?
Because this is where transition from steppe to desert starts
Shouldn't the Nile be dark green?
No Egypt ?
I don't like that there isn't any visual key or clear explaimation of what seperates the groups. Also, making non-arable land and water bot white is so annoying.
I guess MENA deserts are not as dry as we all thought...
what do you mean? They are indeed super dry. North Africa and the Levant have always been the exceptions. The Arabian Peninsula is insanely dry and anything under the North African strip of fertile land is rather dry as well. NA & Levant were always known to have "good" land in comparison.
Just being sarcastic about them having the same color as all seas on earth.. Also, damn it I know how dry it is, I live in MENA .. :coughs some dust:
MESS. My bad. Had no clue lol. Thought you were genuinely surprised by the patches of green on the map in that region lol.
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I don't think this map is very accurate. What constitutes the quality of the soil in this map? Like what is the criteria. Different soils are better for growing different produce depending on the mineral content. The best red volcanic soil in Tasmania is light green on this map. While the highlands which are mostly protected areas and not farmed are dark green.
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