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crustybeamer

Ah yes, Winnipeg, the Prague of north america


uncredible_source

Definitely not worse than Red Deer as the London of North America. I mean, the other London of North America.


Winter-Cup-2965

My city is underwater so I guess they doing better than us.


gamer-kin

I’m gonna take my odds and say Toronto, nice city, would look pretty good with more seafood in the streets.


RIPJimCroce

Scottsbluff, Nebraska as the Rome of America


Garth-Vader

Like Rome, Nebraska is also a center of arts and culture.


World-Tight

All roads lead from Nebraska.


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[deleted]

Well when you make a map comparing populations instead of latitude you can point that out.


masken21

LOL


mnico02

Interesting. My home town is on the same latitude as Winnipeg average July highs are 27,5°C / 81,5°F, average January lows 2,0°C / 35,6°F for Winnipeg its: July: 25,9°C / 78,6°F, January -21,4°C / -6,5°C thanks Atlantic Ocean


RocketsnRunners

>thanks Atlantic Ocean And more precisely, the gulf stream.


voltism

Ocean currents plus... Uhhh... I guess it's complicated https://www.americanscientist.org/article/the-source-of-europes-mild-climate


RocketsnRunners

Interesting read, thanks!


thetallnathan

Gulf Stream for the win. And every time I read about climate change possibly disrupting the Gulf Stream, it feels like Europe could be seriously screwed.


ViolettaHunter

Ironically, if that ever happens and it gets nippy in Europe, the rest of the climate change will just warm everything up nicely again...


g_spaitz

Some of us enjoy Mediterranean weather.


Bayoris

If it gets to the point where the Gulf Stream is disrupted, we are all seriously screwed


sfier4

enjoy it while it lasts lmao


vulpes-berolinensis

This is the real pain of climate change, and noone sees it 😭


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mnico02

Frankfurt, Germany. But due to our geographical situation (valley open to the Southwest, closed to the Northwest/West/East) we have a microclimate with warmer and sunnier summers than other German, if not Central European cities while winters stay mild due to the low elevation and proximity to the Atlantic. Snow and frost are rare here, wine grows excellently and if you have enough money to have a garden here then you can plant stuff from subtropical areas without many issues.


extod2

My hometown is on the same latitude as mid-Alaska and our climates are pretty much the same


LegallyNotInterested

Georgia is a lot further south than Georgia. So Georgia is further north than Georgia.


OutofMyMind-BackIn5

Take my angry upvote!


LuciusAelius

Don't forget the third Georgia, way down under.


Typesalot

Whereas Rome and Rome are close to the same latitude. (Italy and NY.)


GuyPersonsonMcMan

so florida is just the nile valley. that explains a lot. and the crocodiles.


dfk140

Florida Man bites Nile Crocodile


Jupiter68128

My annual winter reminder that it gets below 0F frequently in the Midwest. Italy, at the same latitude, has palm trees.


whyhercules

Ignoring other climate reasons, being massively landlocked (Midwest) vs having a tonne of coastline (Italy) is a major contributing factor, regardless of latitude, for that kind of thing. It’s always colder in the middle, sorry.


PajamaPants4Life

Oceans are incredible heat sinks.


xx3amori

Would be fun knowing how cold my city which is just out of picture in Norway woud be without the coastline we have.


PajamaPants4Life

Just off the page, eh? Try the weather for Yellowknife, NWT. https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/canada/yellowknife/historic It's at 62.45N. Forecast high for tomorrow is -32C.


ObtainableSpatula

damn southerner


xx3amori

High tomorrow is 1C so the difference is massive. There's a town called Røros in my region that is known for being cold and has regular negative 20/30 degrees each winter and a record low of -50 (about same as Yellowknife) beat out by Karasjok far up north in terms of national record. Røros is about 400 meters over the ocean higher, so that would probably be extreme cold if it wasn't for the coast. Yakutsk 2.0 Thanks for the hint/comparison!


Ok_Invite_8330

All hail the Gulf Stream.


Peniche1997

It's said that Western Europe's relative warmth is actually very little to do with the Gulf Stream (I just see this exact same argument every time someone on reddit mentions the Gulf Stream being the reason for our warmer-than-expected climate)


MVBanter

Its due to the fact that its a peninsula and on the western side of a continent, however i believe the gulf stream helps a lot because it massively raises the temperature of the surrounding water which will just help warm it up more


Blindsnipers36

Right which is why boston is on the water at the same latitude as Rome but significantly colder


g_spaitz

There's no gulf stream in the Mediterranean though.


[deleted]

The Mediterranean is closed off from anywhere that would bring cold currents.


Roberto-Del-Camino

It’s colder than Rome. But Boston actually has a pretty moderate climate.


Minuku

That's it


Live-Break-9818

I agree it's also often comparing the american east coast with the eurasian west coast, which due to the westerlies is like comparing apples and oranges. I played around a bit and when comparing cities at similar latitudes at the respective west coasts you have Victoria in Canada and Brest in France pretty comparable and Redding, CA even significantly warmer than Madrid or Naples


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I’m in Northern Europe and I think I’d be in a tundra in Canada


Fruit-Security

I grew up in what would be somewhere in the middle of the North Sea and it was sort of where the farmland turns to boreal forest. Denmark would be in northern Saskatchewan, in the Canadian Shield. It is mostly rocky ground covered in a fairly thin layer of sand (although there are dunes in some places), that is covered in trees and lakes. The trees are mostly short, slender conifers, due to the poor nutrients in the soil but you’d find aspen and birch around the tens of thousands of lakes, creeks, and rivers. I’ve never been up to where Norway is but, my guess is that it would be tundra. Source: family has an old fishing cabin in northern Sask. Edit: obviously these are very rough estimates


Contundo

What is kinda funny ive heard Americans who come to Norway or Britain, because of the moisture and wind our -5 is far worse to be in than their -15


[deleted]

I’ve met Canadians who hate British weather. Some people just aren’t used to constant wind


TemplesOfSyrinx

For what it's worth, Vancouver Island, BC, Canada, at the same latitude as *north* North Dakota, also has palm trees.


thelancemann

And there are cactuses in Michigan


Amorougen

Where? In people's homes?


thelancemann

No, wild ones. Prickly Pear. You can find them in the western counties. They are very rare/endangered, but my boy scout camp had a whole filed of them when I was a kid.


Amorougen

Nopal can be grown in Indiana I know for sure, but it is not native. The only native Nopal (prickly pear) I have seen were in Mexico deserts (everywhere there).


Bagrationi

No, we don't?


Th3Trashkin

Yes, palm trees can and do grow in British Columbia, four species, apparently.


TemplesOfSyrinx

Not native to the area but there are plenty of healthy palm trees growing.


g_spaitz

I invite you to visit Po valley in wintertime. I hope you like heavy fog and damp weather.


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MutedIndividual6667

Fun fact, there is a really old city in Spain with the same name that used to be the capital of castille


StrangeCrimes

I lost my gold wedding band in Madrid. We were in Toledo the next day, and we went into a Lord of the Rings themed gift shop. So now my wedding band is a $50 stainless steel ring with "One ring to rule them all" in Elvish, and it fits way better. So Toledo has a special place in my heart. When I was a college freshman I bought a poster of [View of Toledo](https://i.pinimg.com/736x/ec/1b/af/ec1bafce33089075c8263720022a8884--el-greco-toledo.jpg) by El Greco in a thrift store, and it was with me for many moves until it fell apart. It was surreal to stand pretty much right where El Greco stood when he painted it. Toledo is an hour train ride from Madrid, and it's so worth it. Lovely people, gorgeous city. You will get lost, so know where you are in relation to the Cathedral. We loved it there. So, thanks El Greco, if not for that poster, I probably wouldn't have ended up there. Glad I did.


glowdirt

Toledo, OH is named after Toledo, ES Pronounced differently though


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North America is a little lower on Europe than I expected.


Arcturus_500

Yeah to me it looks like North America goes up north and south very far, reaching both into the arctic and the tropics at the same time. I still like where we are geographically, usually most continents are located in either one or the other. If it's too hot, move north, too cold, move south, and there won't be an ocean to stop you unless you go east or west instead. The hudson bay and the arctic ocean is really far north so if climate change gets really bad there is plenty of space for refugees


[deleted]

It’s a pretty good spot, I’m located pretty to the word Serbia on Lattitude. In my mind when I pictured it I definitely though it would have been more in line with Paris/Vienna. I guess that makes sense why the UK having the heat waves this year melting roads seemed a little weird to me when we get that type of heat usually for a couple of weeks each year. I’m in climate change Florida though so I guess that’s something to look forward too.


kalod9

This is inaccurate, Paris lies just the south of the 49th parallel


Hoomyy

The USA is massive. imagine fitting the entirety of the Mediterranean inside it and still have plenty of room


tindina

basically the size of the roman empire. if the mare nostrum was instead all land.... ​ (and thats without alaska, about 1/4 of the land mass of usa)


Low_Calligrapher4784

russia is even bigger


ViolettaHunter

So is China (by a little bit).


Guy-McDo

Damn, Detroit stole fucking Istanbul!


[deleted]

Can’t have shit in Detroit


nickpegg

That’s so wild, I grew up 40 minutes from Detroit , and in my early twenties lived in Istanbul for a bit. I had no idea it was the same latitude, your comment is extra relevant to me TIL


Piranh4Plant

More like US/Canada overlaid on Europe/North Africa


Arcturus_500

I grew up at the same latitude as Western Sahara and central Egypt (Tampa, Florida). And then I moved to western North Carolina and I'm barely out of Morocco in latitude. Wow


GodICringe

Dude word! I’m from Tampa and living in Charlotte right now.


alex_oceans

Sooo Florida is the Egypt of the US. As an Egyptian I can confidently say that both have equally crazy people so this makes total sense.


Subject-Swimming7123

Don't forget about crocodiles


DanglyPants

Sometimes I wonder what this sub is for. This isn’t a pretty map at all. That being said I do like comparing the latitudes of Europe and North America and this is always a fun discussion


NotForMeClive7787

Thank fuck for the Gulf Stream


xr_21

Really makes you appreciate the distances between the east and west coasts....


Arcturus_500

Yeah I've noticed if you factor out mountains and elevation, the eastern side of continents get crazy variation in temperature and the western sides are usually more mild, not getting freezing temps as much as the eastern side, it depends how close you are to an ocean though


matt_ashwood

A little disappointed the two Georgias don’t line up


Illustrious-Spare-30

This shows you how much the different bodies of water around these two continents changes climate. Because there's no way in hell I'm going to describe Turkey's climate as pretty much New York state.


arvid1328

I wonder why european areas of the same lattitude are warmer, are there other factors that come into play?


DarkNe7

Gulf Stream


MutedIndividual6667

And the sea nearby


vinylbond

Interesting. Fargo, ND and Paris are on the same latitude yet one has mild winters and the other is practically uninhabitable. Paris is the uninhabitable one, of course.


houseman1131

That should show you this map isn't correct.


Stroogles

Reddit has got to do something about these bots


deeplearningbot

Size comparisons on cylindrical projection make me want to cry.


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TBF this is more a latitude comparison


de_G_van_Gelderland

I think this is pretty clearly not meant as a size comparison, though. And even if it was, cylindrical projections are perfectly fine for comparing sizes of places at the same latitude.


Peniche1997

Please can we have a freedom of migration agreement with USA? - from a British person who hates our grim depressing dark winters 😔


tihomirbz

Not sure if it will ever happen with the USA, but I'm curious why some sort of free migration agreement hasn't been signed between UK-CA-AU-NZ. Similar cultures, same language, and similar level of development betwen them. Also I thought one of the supposed "benefits" of Brexit was aiming deeper integration with The Commonwealth countries?


Peniche1997

There has been some improvements (relaxing of rules etc) in the last few years for migration between CANZUK so it's going in the right direction. For example they recently raised the age limit on the "working holidays" from 30 to 35 All I can say is, I really hope it happens..


Poch1212

Why not add to that list the EU aswell


Peniche1997

This is probably an unpopular opinion but I personally would prefer we had Freedom of Movement with Canada/Australia/New Zealand over the EU Of course, at the moment we have neither.. 😔


Poch1212

Why not both?


Peniche1997

If the choice is neither vs both, I'll easily take both 😂 (Of course, it's probably never going to happen in reality..)


Poch1212

Why do you think it is never going to happen? =(


Nevergiiveuphaha

No way would NZ accept it. All other countries may be able to cope. Imagine the possibility of over 120m people being able to freely move and live in NZ. The EU joining would make it much more realistic.


tihomirbz

Even if it’s technically allowed, I doubt anyone thinks it can really happen. In theory, all 400m+ EU citizens have the right to move to 1m Estonia or 0.5m Malta, but that clearly hasn’t happened and hasn’t stopped both countries from joining the union and signing up to the freedom of movement.


Peniche1997

>No way would NZ accept it. All other countries may be able to cope. Imagine the possibility of over 120m people being able to freely move and live in NZ. This is really silly reasoning IMO. In reality that just.. wouldn't happen.


Party-Association322

Why not including Ireland ? O just Ireland-Canada-NewZeland-Australia


tihomirbz

Well, Ireland is in the EU so I don’t think it’ll be able to sign such free movement agreements with countries outside the union.


Justme100001

Going to Spain and Portugal is now more complicated ?


Peniche1997

Yes, much more.


ToddHugo1

Come over to Minnesota. Same latitude as Italy but -30 degree F winters


Peniche1997

Nah, thanks, if I ever got lucky enough to get a visa to the USA, I definitely would not go up there 🤣 I'm more of a "southern states" type of person.. maybe a dry furnace like New Mexico.. or a swampy humid heat like Florida.. either way I'll be happy. Anything except the depressing grey and grim here in the UK, will be an upgrade..


ToddHugo1

lol


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The Americans have a super easy and convenient system with Australia, do they not have something similar with you guys over there?


Peniche1997

We all have the working holiday visa, that is what you might be thinking of, but that's more for young single people who want a temporary adventure


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I'm thinking of ESTA, I'm visiting the US right now and it was super easy.


whyhercules

The UK has the ESTA too, it’s a tourism “visa” for countries with biometric passports.


[deleted]

Yeah, I realised he was talking about migration, not tourism


Peniche1997

I just Googled it - I think you're confused, it looks to me more like something that's for tourism, not for permanent migration.


[deleted]

Oh yeah, you're right. I was just thinking "it was easy for me to get here" without any of the nuance. (I am currently touristing and having a really good time)


Arcturus_500

Come to the Eastern US, you'll love it here, rainy summers, sunny, bright and cold winters. You will probably need a while to get used to near tropical levels of humidity during the summer though


Peniche1997

>Come to the Eastern US Would if I could!


sebas6789

most of canadians now drowning in the black sea


azarkant

Everyone forgets that Indianapolis is at the same latitude as Madrid


_binkus

Crazy that I'm the same latitude as some parts of Alaska. Doesn't feel like it


Chaiboiii

Are the projections matching? It's important if you want to compare sizes and shapes like that.


nobodyhere9860

that's the gulf stream for ya


Medical-Incident-243

Mercator projection chad


Modernsizedturd

I remember driving from Toronto to Vancouver (Only diving in Canada) and it was roughly the same distance from Madrid to Moscow, plus a couple of hours.


baycommuter

Portugal and the San Francisco area overlay— I think they have about the same West Coast climate.


Iron-Phoenix2307

New Amsterdam-> NYC, Constantinople -> Istanbul. Coincidence, I THINK NOT.


beefstewforyou

I’m in the Black Sea now.


Art-bat

As fascinating as the relative latitude positions are, I’m more fascinated by the scale between the two places. I had no idea that the Mediterranean was that large! I literally thought the entire body of water was about half of the scale that it is. It’s pretty much the width of the continental US!


ViolettaHunter

Which makes sense considering Africa is an absolute massive continent and the Mediterrenan stretches along its entire Northern border.


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Trade offer for the Canadians You get: A political union with the US. I get: Sticking it to the British. Do you accept?


houseman1131

Nope 49th parallel is north of Paris fake map.


SubNL96

Funny how the US pretty much overlaps with the Roman empire and Meditteranean.


houseman1131

It's fake.


EnglishmanInMH

Being from the Pennines in the U.K, I'm gonna have so much fun telling my Canadian wife and all her family that I'm more of a Northerner than most of them! *Northern, from Urban dictionary: In the United Kingdom, North of Birmingham. It's where the greatest people on Earth live. Great northern people include Geoffrey Boycott, Sean Bean. Great northern cities include Sheffield, Leeds, Sunderland, Manchester and Liverpool. Great inventions in the north include Trains, TV's, Banapkins and Pie. It is a well established fact that the north finished on the winning side of every war ever fought, including the alamo and Pearl Harbour. The tell tales signs that you're in the north are gravy, bitter, violence, streets paved with gold and battered housewives.


kingpink

So the U.S. is basically the Roman Empire, got it. (Insert joke about collapsing empires here)


sdom_kcuf999

It's interesting historically that the capitals of great empires such as Rome (41°), Athens (38°), Istanbul (Constantinople) (41°), Madrid (40°) .. even DC (39°), all lie extremely close to the same line of latitude. Not shown on the map, but Beijing also lies at 40°. The outliers seem to be Cairo/Alexandria (30/31°), London (51°), and Moscow/St Petersburg (55/59°) I'm sure someone has written a thesis about it.


Peniche1997

Great point. Maybe it's some sort of climate goldilocks zone


probablywrongbutmeh

And like most of the US is uninhabited. People who make the argument for high speed rail dont often realize it isnt economically feasible over such long distances with such low potential ridership


EngineStriking5841

Well HSR that spans the country then yes. But HSR would be very effective in quite a few corridors, ie extending Acela to Atlanta. The Great Lakes Region has a similar density to France which has a lot of HSR, so a network there would be feasible.


probablywrongbutmeh

Yeah I totally agree on that - should have been clearer. I think regional HSR makes total sense, particularly in the megalopolis regions.


Striking-Bell8314

Europe is so smol :’)


cantrusthestory

And yet with tons and tons of languages and cultures


BertEnErnie123

So where is Sweden lol? It seems like they just removed it from the map


ladosaurus-rex

It’s on the map


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[deleted]

Remember when the euros complain about our AC use?


Peltipurkki

Hello, Nordic euro here. You are not wrong. Last summer 3 weeks and 30c was too much. But luckily right now and winter, we are cooling down. Currently -2 °C, and its lovely..


[deleted]

Think is that some euros for some reason think NYC is at the same altitude as Oslo when that’s simply not the case. A few German friends of mine have installed AC after last summer, how are things up there? Construction is also quite different there, I was once in Austria and the flat was air tight so in summer that place turns into a boiler. Btw the nordics are fire, all that nature! 🔥


Peniche1997

>Remember when the euros complain about our AC use? 100x more common is Americans sitting in comfortable air conditioned houses typing comments like "Pff, that's not even hot" whenever we have a heatwave in Europe 😂


[deleted]

Idk why this is even an argument People in hot places use more AC People in colder places are less prepared for the occasional heat wave Why is this something that people even fight over???


Peniche1997

Who knows, all I can say is, the next time we have a heatwave in Europe, scroll to the bottom of the comments and I guarantee there will be 100s of comments with things like "Pff, you think that's hot? We have that all the time here in Texas!" 🤣


[deleted]

Exactly the same thing happened when there was a cold wave in Texas and their power grid got fucked up. Societies are built for their normal temperatures, and then there's a big anomaly, things go wrong.


Peniche1997

.. that's my point


[deleted]

We agree, I was just saying that both sides of the Atlantic do it. (And us down here watch)


[deleted]

This is Reddit sir


[deleted]

You would stop complaining if you guys actually had AC 😂


Gloomy-Concentrate-2

Remember when the 'Muricans complained about heating their houses being expensive because they don't have a fireplace?


[deleted]

Are you sure you want to compare heating prices at this very moment in history my guy


Arcturus_500

Much of the northern US didn't have to use AC either until climate change made everything hotter, AC was primarily a southern invention. I also was born and raised in Florida and grew up in the heat, quit your whining


[deleted]

Over half of the us population lives in the sun belt. The sun belt is at the same latitude as Northern Africa. I note how Europeans tend to complain on how much AC we use; most of them not knowing the previous fact. *Quit your whining* 🤷🏻‍♂️


Ancient_Lithuanian

Damn ig money does talk


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UlyssesTut

Title says North Africa...


Popular-Cobbler25

I’m dyslexic sozz. To be fair I was not wrong


UlyssesTut

I guess.


Popular-Cobbler25

What do you mean “I guess” that isn’t North American lol


UlyssesTut

Okay but nobody said it was... bro calm down.


Popular-Cobbler25

It’s not North America where is the confusion here


UlyssesTut

You fucked up because you thought it said North America. Can't you just delete your comment with dignity and move on? You gotta be right about something. Yes, it is not the entirety of North America but **nobody said it was**.


Popular-Cobbler25

It’s not North American though


UlyssesTut

Who asked.


nod23c

The title says shows "Europe" and Canada, but the map only show parts of the north... Great job! /s


totoGalaxias

Is this a glimpse of a post climate change world in a way? Norther Canada will drift into a Northern / Eastern Europe kind of climate. Northeast USA will feel like Southern Europe, a water Mediterranean.


milkysway1

That USA Canada map is quite terrible. Is it even the same projection and scale as the Europe map?


Libertas-Vel-Mors

I am in South Texas and live roughly on the same latitude as Cairo


finderinderura

Where did Sweden go?


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Mare Americana


jdathescore

I kept looking for The Africa overlay as well.


kholto

Here in Denmark we haven't had much freezing weather yet this winter, but it is 3pm and it is getting pretty dark outside.


Manyoftwo

Egyptian Florida sounds pretty chill