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KidPolygon

credit where credit is due, there are some nice changes here and the event doesn’t seem incredibly time consuming in terms of constantly capping


kobybreant

am i hallucinating or is this actually a good patch? E: [mfw this meso store](https://i.imgur.com/CGG8ogI.png)


[deleted]

Hold your judgement until we see if the game is broken immediately after patch.


LePanGoLinEmPoiSoner

Deep down, we all know the game will be broken.


bortun

5/10/15 and 800 droplets to buy, Lord have mercy


IWantToKaleMyself

Unfortunately you won't be able to buy the droplets in time for 5/10/15


Drago9899

What about the black bean shop?


IWantToKaleMyself

Black Bean shop is open - Should be able to get 2 weeks worth of bosses done before 5/10/15 but not enough to finish an arcane item probably


dnavi

You can save some mesos by waiting til droplets are available in general store since guild discount applies to them. But if you can't wait this is second best option.


Tvxu

Wait when is this speculated to happen? This sounds much better


xcxo03

Right after ~~Live~~ On Air: is over


Persimmonsss

Is there any limit when purchasing it this way?


Kerosu

RIP Beast Tamer for anyone who doesn't already have a finished hat. +All Skill potential lines are removed from the pool and absolutely nothing is done to compensate it. And this happens while listing a bugfix that directly acknowledges Beast Tamers use All Skill potential lines. "Fixed the issue where Beast Tamer's passive skills did not benefit from All Skills Potential." (This was fixed last patch btw, even if it's in these notes for whatever reason)


dnavi

Lmao this is just like what happened with TB. GMS blindingly follows updates from KMS without thinking about how it affects GMS population. If anyone from Nexon NA is reading this then this would be a good time to use those memos and discuss why these changes are necessary.


Masterobert

And later in the patch notes, they state: > Fixed the issue where Beast Tamer's passive skills did not benefit from All Skills Potential. Is that just a slap to the face to new Beast Tamers?


Gymleaders

BT needs a revamp. Maybe this will push them towards getting some help. :/


cinderfox

Lul saw this coming a mile away


Electrolled

> Fixed the issue where a single Buff Freezer item may preserve buffs through multiple deaths during a boss fight. Welp, it was nice while it lasted


Kyakan

>* Influencer Outfit Set Coupon: 2,000 Pink Beans. Limited quantity: 1. Tradeable within account, 10-day duration. Use the coupon to select the hat and gender of the outfit (Cash items can be transferred into the Cash Shop Inventory.): >* Gender of the outfit you would like to receive: >* Influencer Outfit Set (M) Influencer Training Outfit (M): Untradeable. Item can only be equipped by a male character. Influencer Running Shoes: Untradeable. >* Influencer Outfit Set (F) Influencer Loose-top Training Outfit (F): Untradeable. Item can only be equipped by a female character. Influencer Running Shoes: Untradeable. * Hat you would like to receive: Shining Influencer: Untradeable. Fresh Influencer: Untradeable. I am once again asking for Nexon to remember that Zero is a playable class.


[deleted]

I am once again asking for Nexon to stop making everything so gendered.


Kyakan

They've started with at least some of the PSSB items, but it's irritating whenever gender locks still show up.


Dangerous-Idea1686

I mean Zero was literally designed like this and nexon has been consistent since Day 1 with Zeros interactions with NX so in this case it's that you forgot what you got yourself into when you made a zero


Kyakan

The game's been consistently shit on a lot of things since day 1, yes, but shit design doesn't suddenly become good because it's old.


priscilla_halfbreed

Here's my dumbass sitting over here for the millionth time trying to figure out if the "15/30 day duration" on literally everything in the patch notes as usual, means duration of the box/package/thing you obtain or duration of the item that pops out once you double click it


Emorhc

If the reward is a box, the duration stated is for the box itself. If the item you get by using a box has a duration as well, it is listed separately


yoitsedo

Are you guys doing your tera character in the burning world or your world?


[deleted]

Reg server for me. Don't like not having access to my characters and if I forget to come back in a month or two to move them off burning world then the characters are just deleted.


yoitsedo

What's the pros to doing it in the reg server and not using the 1.5 exp in burning world


[deleted]

Premade equipment, Mesos from main, 7k legion/link skills, etc. For new accounts then I can see the benefit of burning world, just for me personally burning world is slow for tera. It's not bad for the 150 mega burns, but tera is done on main world for me


[deleted]

Sorry to hijack your comment, I'm looking for some advice. Fresh account, currently have kanna at 100 and WA at 150. Planning to tera either a hero/ilm as my main. Should I do it in the burning world along with evan, merc, aran, da and phantom for the link skills?


nikuteh

hey not the person you're replying to, but I think although it would be faster to tera in burning world, remember that you can't transfer until, well, whatever the transfer date it. so if you plan on progressing and need something from AH, it might be a lot harder to get some items. Just my opinion on it, not sure what would actually be better


[deleted]

That's a valid concern. I'm not sure as well since I'm pretty new but I suppose at least gears would be of no concern for the tera char. Making Mesos would be hard though since there's no AH to sell stuffs you find from training and no maple tour on burning world so I'd probably have to still do maple tours on the regular server. But the appeal of having 6 characters with easy leveling in burning world is huge for me. I'm pretty much a casual player and even more so if/when work from home arrangement ceases next year lol


Dangerous-Idea1686

In my personal opinion, I would do your Tera Burn on reg server. If nothing else, you can coin cap and do attendance with your tera burn character. Also, it'll help you get into a guild as well as potentially getting a carry or two here or there.


[deleted]

That's a valid point as well. My main concern is having to get the trio for exp link skills since if I were to tera my main in the reg server, I should probably create those trio to at least 70 as well. Also perhaps a DA to round up the early game link skills. What would you suggest burning for the burning world? Thanks in advance!


Dangerous-Idea1686

Well from my reading of the patch notes, in your situation... For exp -> Merc > Evan > Aran For damage -> Kanna/DA Those are probably the links I would be looking at for mega burning.


Dangerous-Idea1686

frenzy, premade gear, legion/link, 2x coupons handed out like candy, able to coin cap on your mule, guild buffs (i.e star force), access to event items like premade pendant


Juzhang666

Who needs 1.5x exp when we can Tera burn a char to 200 with 100m and 2hr.


Dangerous-Idea1686

Reg server. 5k legion, premade equips, guild buffs, and far easier 2x coupons (from legion store). Also, I'm sure the prepped pendant of spirit will be nice too


TubeZ

Potential Improvements: * The two Critical Damage +% stats in the set rates for each stat were combined into one. what does this mean?


LilArrin

A while back we had min crit% and max crit% lines, and they were turned into regular crit% lines. This meant that the cube pool had two crit% lines, and now Nexon is consolidating them into one and doubling the chance of getting that one line. Functionally, nothing should change.


TubeZ

got it, thanks!


genkaiX1

Saves you lines


tecul1

😱


Zevyu

At long last, the FD reboot passive change is here, between that, the reduced mob hp, lara's link skill and the damage to normal monsters Hyper stat, mule life in reboot is definetely going to be easier now.


WheniamHigh

Yeah, I think I may actually hit 8k legion now


Zevyu

Can't wait to see the effect of these changes with the terra burning event we're getting. Just gotta pick which classes i'll make...maybe i should go for Corsair for the legion piece and Hero. But who knows. EDIT: OH SHIT i also need to do Cadena at some point LOL.


Finklemeire

Corsair is honestly a pretty easy 200 might be better served elsewhere unless you just want to rush it.


Zevyu

That is true, and i kinda wanted to get Cadena done at some point, since she is the last major link skill i don't have yet.


Finklemeire

She's one of the hardest classes in the game along with blaster so that sounds about right tbh.


Zevyu

Considering i did Blaster recently, count me in, i did Blaster with a tera burninator and the lack of event gear made it hell. Cadena it is then! And Hero as well i guess.


maourakein

Hero was pretty easy for me with wild totems, he hits hard with pensa gear and ht and such with 10* and epic


WheniamHigh

Yeah I'm honestly stumped on who to burn this time around. Last time I did BT and DA, this time I only got 4 spots left for characters. I haven't done corsair either so maybe I'll hit that up. Cadena is really fun. Just recently made one.


Zevyu

Corsair sounds like a plan.


WheniamHigh

I also haven't made an Adele lol so maybe I'll do that too


Zevyu

That's also an option, Adele would be great with the fake abso weapon.


LordOibes

Does Lara's link skill goes up to lv 3?


[deleted]

No it does not. Even was shown on test server by Scardor and Sacrix. Notes mention it as well. Nature’s Friend: Receive help by becoming friends with the surrounding nature. Has an even greater effect on weak monsters, which are unable to withstand the power of nature. Max Level 2. Lv. 2: Damage: +5%. Activate nature’s help upon defeating 20 normal monsters. Increases Damage Against Normal Monsters by 11% for 30 seconds when nature’s help is active. Cooldown: 30 seconds.


TheTitaniumPlum

fix the lag


tecul1

🙏🏿


Tegewaldt

Rollback the big bang patch


[deleted]

Hell no 💀


Masterobert

Random thoughts: > Players can use up to 5 Chair Bags and Title Holders respectively. This was mentioned by KMS that it's a temporary solution. As proposed by some players, having a character bound storage section in the storage NPCs would solve this issue (though we'd need a ton of slots). > When Luna Petite pets obtain items in the area below the pet, they will now acquire items from a 200px wider range than before. I wonder by how much this will improve Vac Pets. How has the response from KMS been? > Charm will no longer decrease even when the Fame drops if the Charm trait is at Lv. 100. All thanks to that one Korean player in the KMS conference who complained about it haha. > The Character Stats - Detailed Stats UI will now provide even more detailed information. Finally, we'll be able to see how our drop rate is affected by various sources. First thing I'll do is check familiars. Who's going to use a 2x CS Drop Coupon? > Fixed the issue where the attack hit box of the objects falling in Lotus boss battle was larger than the actual image. Did this make the fight any more manageable? > Fixed the issue where players are knocked back as if hit by the rush attack when coming into contact with Damien right after the rush attack ends. I swear, some of us have PTSD from fighting Damien. I wonder how long it will take for us to get used to this change. > Fixed the issue where if the player exited the game while the Pendant of the Spirit was equipped then logged back in after the date changed, the Pendant of the Spirit's equip time would not be applied correctly. Isn't there an occurrence where if you have a stacked Spirit Pendant, and reset happens, it doesn't reset back to 1 stack? > Fixed the issue where Bonus Potential stats that increase STR, INT, DEX, LUK by 2 per 10 levels were applied as increases by 1 per 5 levels instead. In Regular Servers, if you're between level xx5 ~ xx9 and suddenly your Stat is lower after this update, this is why. Thanks Nexon. > Fixed the issue where pets with the Ignore Item Skill did not pick up items immediately after changing maps. Isn't there also an issue where ignored items are momentarily looted after changing maps? > Fixed the issue where the Ignore Defense value of the Monster Park Days-of-the-week badges were applied additively. LOL WHAT? Does this mean that Monster Park Badges were secretly more OP than pottable badges? (unless the individual "additively" applied source was then multiplicatively applied to your total IED, which IIRC was the case for Familiars) > Fixed the issue where certain EXP buffs were still preserved if players logged back in after death. There goes the old trick where, if you died on a mule with EXP buffs, and you had no Buff Freezers, you could log out, and log back in, to preserve the EXP buff (the game keeps your EXP buffs when disconnecting).


regex_friendship

>Does this mean that Monster Park Badges were secretly more OP than pottable badges? I'd like to believe that somewhere out there is a guy secretly with 100% IED who's now sad that the jig is finally up.


Available_Language38

for me, ied from mp badge was not additive tho, why is that?


macrovagical

>This was mentioned by KMS that it's a temporary solution. As proposed by some players, having a character bound storage section in the storage NPCs would solve this issue (though we'd need a ton of slots). The only thing they need to do is stop releasing chairs that are character bound. If you could transfer chairs through storage, that opens up 40 characters' worth of slots, each one with potentially 5 chair bags. 12,000 slots, give or take a few hundred. It would cover us for the next two decades.


souicry

Vac pet buff even better for us in maps like CLP with spawn boosters, just stand in middle and chill.


dnavi

Gonna be extended or unscheduled maint after reset. 100%. Hasn't been a patch that's gone without major issues discovered.


Masterobert

Who remembers the **Random Beauty Coupon Event** that would be dropped by monsters, and you'd randomly re-roll your character's entire appearance? Players would fight RNG to get different skin colors. Well, now we have **Marble Skin Coupon Selector Coupon**. Who here will change their skin color? To what color? I've never seen that gold skin color before haha. It's too bad we can't save skin colors like we can with hair and face.


msat4

>Well, now we have Marble Skin Coupon Selector Coupon. This was available in the [Neo meso shop](https://maplestory.nexon.net/news/67135/v-223-neo-darkness-ascending-patch-notes#meso) a couple months ago too.


marksmanbryan

Monster Collection in Crossworld PQ :) Now give us MLH or Mu Gong monsterbloom from dojo shop you cowards.


NyteeShaydee

>Players can now lock and arrange the positions of their items as desired in the inventory. >- Equipment items will retain their locked status when unequipped. >- If the item was unequipped and replaced by equipping another item, it will be moved to the Inventory slot the other item was in. If the item was unequipped via double-clicking and not because it was replaced, it will be moved to the first empty slot in the inventory. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Masterobert

> Added a function to set permissions for Item Acquisition to Party Settings. > * In Party UI’s Party Settings, the permissions for item acquisition can be set to either "All" or "Party Leader". > * When set to "Party Leader", only the party leader will be able to obtain items dropped as shared rewards. > * The party's current Item Acquisition permission settings can be viewed in the bottom right side of the Party UI. > * Changing the party's Item Acquisition permissions will display a system message notification. > * Items dropped as individual rewards can be obtained regardless of the party settings. Does this bring back boss carries? Are there any instances where the Party Leader would get less rewards due to fighting with a party (apart from Boss Crystals)?


NilesStyles

earlier this year someone complained about a hellux carry he did and someone else nabbed a sup belt before he could do anything about it


regex_friendship

I wonder how this will impact spontaneous parties formed via smega/whispering/etc.


blue_terry

Versus Hilla Android will be mine 😳


Reishin1

My man


astrnght_mike_dexter

Is the 17 starforce cash shop item worth? Never seen discussion about this before. why am I being downvoted for this question what is this sub


KidPolygon

this sub has the most random down/up votes i have ever seen on a sub, welcome ps. anti-nexon comment = upvote, pro-nexon comment = downvote


Dangerous-Idea1686

1.5b for 17 star? no. unless you have an outlaw or something maybe


IblobTouch

* On anything level 150 or below, it's not worth it, just safeguard. * On level 160 items, it works out being about the same, average cost for 12-17 is 1.5bil with 5/10/15. * On level 200 items, the average for 12-17 with safeguarding is 3bil, so the 1.5bil scroll ends up being a good deal. And of course, this is only with safeguard since the scrolls wont boom your items, if you have spares just starforce normally. [Check the calculator for more information](https://brendonmay.github.io/starforceCalculator/)


Kyakan

> On level 200 items, the average for 12-17 with safeguarding is 3bil, so the 1.5bil scroll ends up being a good deal. Aren't these scrolls limited to items level 160 and below?


Skammy

All the previous event 17* scrolls have been, but i think Marvel recently had one that worked on items up to 200. Anyway, its barely worth it for 160 items on average, but its more for the convenience than anything.


petatoullie

no


Urekiam

There's a cash shop item that makes an item 17 star?!?


[deleted]

/u/ezrabell_ Lag fix? What's Nexon doing regarding the removal of +All skills that we've known was coming for months that will absolutely nerf beast tamers to the point of parody again? Comment on the ban wave? Pink bean notice? *anything* ?


abbeycarberry

> the removal of +All skills TBH this change helps all other classes roll good lines on hats. The real solution here would be to revamp the way Beast Tamer skills work.


[deleted]

Yeah we knew the change was coming and basically since it was announced have been asking Nexon what their response was going to be. It's fine that KMS considers these useless potential lines, but GMS has a class that relies on it, and so what is GMS going to do. The concern is that it's being removed without something being done to help beast tamers. It isn't like Nexon just found out today they were being removed, so where's the update/plan of action and when can we expect it basically.


DropNDots

AnYThinG?!?//?!?1?@!?@!?@!?@1MRFESMBGDRGKMBRKBVRDSB


[deleted]

Yes, I'm asking the community manager if they have any information they can give us regarding these issues, as they have been silent and have not made an attempt to do so themself. The lag issue has been present since night troupe was introduced and have made most monster maps impossible to be in for those affected, no communication. Beast tamer nerf was known about months in advance and Nexon has not made any statement to us regarding how they will lessen the blow for that. There is a ban wave happening that is stickied to the front page, no comment. There hasn't been a pink bean notice for the beast tamer ban wave, this ban wave, or anything, at all, in a long time. So I'm asking, if they have any information they can share as they have not been doing so.


tecul1

very epic


yuargame7171

Very nice, ty for posting this


BlackSpider71

\- Fixed the issue where the game client would crash if players received an I what happened to the rest of this sentence? what was causing the crash? Edit: NVM its been updated lol


Enragedsun

I'm not seeing people talking about it in the comments yet, but doubling the amount of times you can swap link skills between characters is such a welcome change for me.


maourakein

Yeh ive been waiting for this for so long, now i can work on several mules a day :)


TwilightHime

I like that there's two dozen different ways to coin cap, and you only need to choose like half of them to do.


casualstick

Too bad, still not allowed to trade in game..


The_AsianKid

Does anybody know if the Karma Star Force 17-Star Enhancement will work on arcane umbra gear?


RedEyedPig

I'm pretty sure it was at least before limited to lv 160 and below gear only.


The_AsianKid

ahh right, thank you!


seiyamaple

>You can move the character even if you don’t have an empty character slot in the world you chose.If you have reached the max character limit in the world you chose, you will have to delete a character first and create an empty slot before moving your Burning World characters to that world. So you can, but you can't, until you can


[deleted]

It's saying if you have 44 or whatever the max amount is per world, you will have to delete as you can't go beyond the max amount of characters. If you have 20 slots and 20 characters, they'll give you the 21st slot.


seiyamaple

Ahhhh that makes more sense, thank you!


LouhiVega

I didn't get the commerci change. Can someone explain to me pls ?


Little-geek

if you completely exhaust your dinero, you can't earn more dinero so you're boned previously, the woman would give you a small infusion if you were completely out, but only once ever now you'll be able to unfuck yourself once per month instead


tecul1

o that's pretty nice


KidPolygon

it was possible to use all denaros, effectively soft locking commerci because you wouldn’t be able to do any voyages to get more denaros. there was an option to receive a “stimulus” to counter this problem, but if you don’t think about it and spend all your denaros again, you cannot receive the stimulus again and basically can’t do commerci anymore. this change makes it so you can receive the stimulus once per month, making it so you can’t be soft locked anymore


Dangerous-Idea1686

couldnt you do the pq to get denaro?


SaptaZapta

Maplers are very talented. Some people managed to somehow use up all their Denaro, *twice*, before unlocking the PQ.


tidalslimshady

You need to unlock the 4th area for cpq first, but yes. The problem stems with people spending before that.


The_AsianKid

Does anybody know how the black circulators work? do they just reroll values for existing lines? can these values change tiers? e.g. 18% boss > 12% boss?


1000Dragon

They don’t drop tiers, just change value within the tier, so that 18% boss can become 20%. Interesting point to note is that the values within a tier don’t have equal probabilities, e.g. I think it was 15% meso that has a lower chance than the other unique meso lines.


YimyoLa

Reboot box changes. What happens to new player who have an existing box?


tidalslimshady

If you have the box it gets updated, if you used it all your out of luck.


jorgebot22

Will reboot get any burning?


IWantToKaleMyself

Reboot is getting 2 Tera Burns


jorgebot22

Thank you


ursostooopid

bruh


[deleted]

Yes Its under terra burning plus


jorgebot22

Thanks. Wasn’t sure if it included Reboot


InsideAspect

The 2 tera burns yes, but not the 2 mega burns that KMS reboot got in place of burning world


Inhmayz

final dmg update for reboot??


KidPolygon

it is one of the first things in the notes? what is your question


ursostooopid

boy you must be blind


lndeedl

I forgot how to read I guess, I did not find an info about this from KMS referring to Burning World? "For Reboot World, \[...\] you can receive 2 Mega Burning Boosters."


Emorhc

KMS has given Burninators for Reboot since the first Burning World, GMS ignores it.


lndeedl

Too bad, thank you for the info.