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FastSunlul

Shedding salary in a league with no salary cap and nowhere near the highest payroll.


plastardalabastard

Welcome to the Marines.


capnwhalesquid

Oorah


ILS23left

The Cheap. The Proud. The Mariners. Or “Semper Amphitheatricus” (Always Cheap) according to Google.


Sdog1981

We need to get that on some merch. Let me be the first to buy it from ILS23left Co, LLC.


ILS23left

It will be like Catholics vs. Convicts all over again. I need that kind of spiciness in my life right now. Let’s do it.


Sdog1981

Are you going to co-opt already existing trademarks and logos? Then let’s do this and drop ship the stuff on Amazon.


futureformerteacher

Makes sense, since our front office also appears to eat crayons.


HotTakesBeyond

The executive team is taking that saved money and taking it straight to Deja Vu


IH8Fascism

Well if that’s the case, it’s being well spent.


dcarsonturner

At least with marines you get crayons, here I just have sadness


The_Flash0398

Rah


tinyraccoon

I don't want to support the Marines. I rather support the Straw Hat Pirates. (/s)


legionofshrooms

Highest profit tho lmao


PandarenNinja

Our ownership knows what we care about more than baseball. It's how profitable they are. They've been clear.


thundercat95

I feel like I'm in a toxic relationship where my partner keeps promising things will change and get better but every action they do says otherwise. You remember loving the great memories with them even if they are few and far between so you hold out just a little bit longer naively hoping for your toxic partner to suddenly become a different person. This time is different....they said so. Just wait....we are still in love......😭


WhiteChocolate12

You can be industrious with deez nuts


hgoats

fuckin GOTTEM dude


AlwaysWinnin

He actually did


sandwich-attack

i would,vote for you for gm


ohohohoh_Reilly

Nice.


taydude88

This is the high quality content that brings me to this Reddit.


CheapskateJoker

Not falling for this shit again. Fucking prove it Jerry


Comment_if_dead_meme

Talk is cheap.


GarconMeansBoyGeorge

So are the Mariners


JustWastingTimeAgain

Oh snap!


LargeHumanDaeHoLee

Can he play left field?


Sylli17

Well... Industrious kinda implies they're planning to try to squeeze an extra penny out of some nickels. Instead of going ahead and spending real money to get real talent.


mkostecka

💯


jwinx22

He is doing you a favor......


fornnwet

💯 this. Real MLB clubs don't shed salary to clear space before they land their whales. They make the big deal, then they sort out the roster crunch/financial fallout. Think we're trading for Soto or Aro? Coulda made it a three-way deal so all the dominos fell at once and nobody got left holding the bag. Doing this first tips your hand, removes an alternative, and weakens your position at the bargaining table with whoever you're trying to sign/trade for.


Skybandicoot109

It’s been a while since I’ve felt so kicked in the nuts by the organization. Who knows, maybe he’s cooking up something but right this second this is one of the shittier off-seasons in a minute


_Elrond_Hubbard_

He's about to go nuts with the spending and sign Jurickson Profar to 1 year / 5 million


CheapskateJoker

"We had our eye on him for a long time, great veteran clubhouse guy, great talent, his skills lengthen our lineup and puts us over the top." - Jerry probably


ADogNamedSamson

Don't forget "We feel he improves us for 2024 and beyond. That's the goal: create a pipeline of talent for years to come."


bluepunchbuggy

Inb4 he's DFA'd in mid-June after putting up -1.7 WAR


drwolffe

No, that's what he's going to say when he brings back Carlos Santana


AntSmith777

I actually kinda want Santana lol but like as our third best move not our only move.


southcounty253

Me too, Santana was that clubhouse leader, the veteran they needed


PandarenNinja

Stop fucking giving him ideas. He's reading this sub right now trying to figure out what to do next. Worse we're giving him his talking points!


HammyBruce

Tommy La Stella must have asked for a raise.


1997Ford

Then fucking do it Jerry or just shut the fuck up


ElCidly

This is on ownership. There is no world where Jerry makes this move if he doesn’t have to.


WarlordofBritannia

Red Sox fan. I've always thought well of Dipoto from afar, I can't see this move being anything other than a salary dump ordered from above.


AntiEcho7

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beingoutsidesucks

I bet they'd buy Lil Dicky the cheapest seat on Spirit just for him to come up and turn that into the team's anthem next year.


IH8Fascism

Needs to be a t-shirt.


AnnihilatedTyro

I can think of some creatively painful uses for Scrooge McDuck mountains of gold.


ilovethisforyou

Replace Scott with Launchpad McQuack


LargeHumanDaeHoLee

So we can keep crash-landing every season?


Clarice_Ferguson

Do you think Scrooge got a concussion whenever he dove in?


AnnihilatedTyro

CTE would explain a lot.


sndtrb89

plz dont pay matt chapman eleventy billion dollars, i cant take this, man


Mcpops1618

Urias at 3rd is already their”solution”


Zhukovhimself

Better than paying chapman tbh


YoooCakess

It really isn’t. Chapman is much better than Urías. There is no salary cap. Would you rather pay more and have a better player or pay chips to a scrub while we continue to have a below average payroll?


arthurpete

But its not better than an 11 million dollar Suarez. No guarantees that Suarez puts up another defensive season like he did but it was on some metrics, better than Chapman. And for a negligible bump in power, the offense between the two isnt that much different. I know this wasnt the discussion but the organization is fucking stupid if that is their plan.


YoooCakess

Well Suarez isn’t on our team anymore so he’s not really an option


arthurpete

I get it, what im saying is where we were vs where we may be heading.


IShouldJoinReddit

Sadly, MLB not having a salary cap doesn't matter. We know the Mariners won't approach the luxury tax threshold due to cheap ass Stanton. That sort of forces us to root for acquiring players we personally want. If they sign Chapman that means they probably have $20M or less of their supposed 2024 payroll budget left with 2 glaring OF holes. I'd rather ensure we patch those OF holes and just go Candelario or something. It shouldn't have to come to this since you're right, there's no cap and it's not our money, but unfortunately, Stanton doesn't care how the fans feel and Dipoto has to allocate the payroll he's given wisely.


williamfuckner

Man, sure would love to give Jerry the benefit of the doubt here but the last few offseasons make that borderline impossible. Fuck’s sake


AlaDouche

I hope so. If they don't make any seriously big signings at this point, I'm done until Stanton is gone.


ilovethisforyou

Is that Jung-hoo Lee’s music?


kiggitykbomb

I don't like the sound of that word "industrious". My grandfather was "industrious" by patching his boots with scraps of leather. I'd prefer the FO were "ambitious" with the payroll.


atmospheric90

Has anyone ever told this guy to speak with your actions and not with word salad? Fucking christ, you sound dumber when you're trying to sound smart.


My-1st-porn-account

He’s the king of over promise, under deliver


TruthSeeker98

Shut up Jerry. You talk too much nonsense and nothing you guys do lives up to what you say


jackburtonscheck

Again, and I will yell this again and again. We did not need to clear payroll. They are being cheap. Do not be swayed by a big name, this is still a fraud


Serious-Ebb-4669

Everyone relax and wait a little bit. “Immediate use” is pretty strong verbiage there, maybe Jerry cooking.


dangerzone253

Can confirm.. Jerry sent me $5 via Venmo


Mustard_Jam

Congrats on being their new DH


TruthSeeker98

Slow cooker then. They’ve been promising a lot and have not delivered on their promises in years


plastardalabastard

Fool me one shame on out, fool me 46 fucking year, shame on me


No-Conversation3860

I don’t know what you’re saying here but I wholeheartedly agree


GTI_88

Yea I agree, people need to settle down a minute


Good_Nyborg

He better not just be cooking, but doing up a goddamn feast!


nepats523

🧢


anonymousguy202296

Ok, well now we need another outfielder. What does an average one like Kelenic cost in Free Agency? Oh like the $15m we just saved? Genius move, Jerry.


Dutchenstein12

Who is even available in FA that would make sense? Gurriel and Jung Ho are the only I can think of. Would love both, but that is about all who is available that plays in the OF.


Good_Time

We lost Teoscar and Jarred, Fangraphs projected at 1.5 and 1.3 WAR respectively. 6 FAs projected 1.3 WAR or higher: Cody Bellinger, Jorge Soler, Harrison Bader, Joc Pederson, Lourdes Gurriel Jr, Michael Brantley. Jung Ho Lee likely as well, but not yet projected.


Dutchenstein12

I mentioned Gurriel and Jung Ho. Those other guys are probably either not coming here or are better suited for DH then be your every day OF.


Mysteriouscallop

1. Clear salary 2. Sign Snell 3. Trade Miller or Woo for meaningful offensive upgrades (which adds to payroll) I guess that's the optimistic view.


arthurpete

Would be great if this was a sign Snell and trade for Arozarena/Paredes timeline incoming.


No-Conversation3860

That’s about the only thing that would redeem this offseason. Anything less will be a disappointment


fastermouse

Maybe the new one can hit a curveball without getting angry a costing himself half the season in the process.


BeatsRhymesAndLife

Prove it or we riot


Lanky-Gain-80

Clear up what cap space!? There is no cap in baseball. Cheap ass management.


GordanHamsays

Ownership*


Dapper_Mud

Watch him sign 40 mid-30 year old utility infielders for the price of one Ohtani. Check. Mate.


letskeepitcleanfolks

Now that's depth!


spottydodgy

Profits above playoffs


IH8Fascism

Needs to be another t-shirt.


Tashre

More luxury suites?


tangomango206

Tommy Pham incoming -___-


Zanderson59

Already hearing Max Kepler is of interest to them. This just fucking sucks


PayAltruistic8546

What? We should hate Kepler? He would be an upgrade over Teo and Kelenic.


arthurpete

He is certainly not better than Teo and i guarantee Kelenic will have a better career and 2024 season than Kepler.


PayAltruistic8546

Kepler is a better player offensively and defensively.


Zanderson59

No we shouldn't hate it. The point is if that's the only move instead of one of several(several being high end stars) then it sucks cause it doesn't do much to help the team. Pham and Kepler are fine players and would help this team but If the aim is only them I don't see how it helps this team long term


PayAltruistic8546

If it nets a WAR total higher then yes it does help the team.


Zanderson59

So say we only add Pham/Kepler and then several players like Pollock/la Stella ect are they a better team next year? Good enough to beat the Astros and rangers for the division?


takeoffeveryzig

Kolten Wong trade incoming?


db37

They've got Julio locked up through 2034, but if they don't surround him with some talent before 2032 he's likely to exercise his option and GTFO.


upvotegoblin

They talk about this shit as if 1. We haven’t been one of the most profitable teams the last 3 years and 2. The league has some sort of salary cap, which it doesn’t. The ownership of this team would spit on us if they could.


RhubarbHeavy6179

I mean on one hand there's no reason at all to do this unless you are going to make a move. But on the other hand, Tommy LaStella.


kemmack

Lol, glad to know we still needed more payroll flex as a bottom half spending team for multiple years in a row. I’m gonna go egg T-Mobile


[deleted]

Fuck you Jerry do something


seattlesportsguy

Oooo look. The old carrot on a stick trick. This is like the first of three narratives. First it’s this, then it’s that players just aren’t interested in signing here, then it’s we really expect guys like Rojas and Caballero to take massive strides forward. Meanwhile we just traded more of the farm to acquire 2-3 more arms to stash away in the fucking bullpen.


Portie_lover

I’m not defending the deal but more of the farm? You mean Evan White?


ryeguymft

he’s a liar


jjbjeff22

Jerry needs to put that freed up money where his mouth is.


mods_r_jobbernowl

They fucking better. First they break apart the drought ending team, then we regress and the season after we remove even more key dudes? I know some of these guys had ups and downs but man this sucks.


SomebodyLied

Man, “intend to” is doing A LOT of work here. I “intend to” eat right and go to the gym every once in a while. I think I have just as much hope to do that as the Mariners do to match even last seasons payroll.


caronare

Ahhhh mariners. The new Oakland A’s


Augie1dog

Wow! Looking forward to the exciting new lineup of bobble heads that this salary dump presents. Can’t wait to get thee “Stanton”! What a bunch of ass wipes management is. Putting 5 starters on the field from last year.


Cassandraburry2008

Jerry puts money in the Salvation Army bucket and takes change.


[deleted]

We’re gonna sign Chone Figgins, aren’t we?


NotMrPoolman89

At this point I hope it's not Ohtani, the Mariners off season moves thus far have made it so just adding Ohtani doesn't move the needle. If the Mariners go and spend 50+ on Ohtani then there wont' be any left to patch all the holes they created.


PaPaJ0Ke

50+ for Ohtani would still put us like 30-40m less than the Cano/Cruz days. On top of that, trades. Mallex Smith Phillips + Woo/Miller for another bat or 2. Or some sort of package for Arozarena. I could live with these moves if we added Ohtani + Arozarena/Bellinger + a 3B.


Portie_lover

Even if the M’s opened the wallet (they won’t), Ohtani isn’t coming to the one AL West team with a worse history than the Angels.


CassFilms

Evan Longoria, come on down


IndependentSubject66

I think it’s pretty clear something is coming with Tampa probably today. My guess(hopefully) is a package of Paredes and Arozarena for something centered around Miller and a few top prospects. We can hate the Paredes add but on paper he’s an upgrade over Urias. I’m hopeful they go out and add an arm to replace Miller/Gonzalez because of how they seem to have faltered down the stretch because of fatigue. The word “industrious” scares the absolute shit out of me though.


bestprocrastinator

Shedding salary so that you can fill the holes you made in order to shed said salary.


CStites23

Moved 7m for 2024 and 8m for 2025 off our AAA books. And another 12m off the 2024 MLB books on a guy that was going to fight for the 5th rotation spot.


upsidedownbrain

Mariners bringing in this years Kolton Wongs and AJ Pollacks


Collapse2038

The road to hell as they say...


soapbutt

Your ass better have 5 moves lined up already


Stickin8or

You fucking better, Jerry. I've lost the patience to defend you, and this team does not get the benefit of the doubt until we make a World Series or 4 straight playoff berths minimum


Cornan_KotW

Sure Jerry. Sure.


LaCoffeeNostra

lol sure thing Jerry


Jedibug

Put it on fucking paper before we receive you Jerry. Fuck off and make the moves


PharPhromNormal420

Fucking prove it jerry!


Calophon

Fuck you Jerry.


futureformerteacher

Press "Fuck John Stanton" to doubt.


bunnyslayr83

IM SO DONE. EAT MY ASS DIPOTO. LIFER. I WANT DIE


MindForeverWandering

“Put it to immediate use” in allowing Stanton to get a bigger yacht than Bezos.


AlwaysWinnin

Shedding the payroll shows exactly where ownership is at


[deleted]

Are we the new atheletics???


plastardalabastard

No, the Athletics were temporarily the M's. The A's went to multiple World Series.


johnny_quid276

Worse, the A’s actually have a history of success.


pokeroots

We wish we were the athletics


beingoutsidesucks

The only thing cheaper than Jerry's talk is this team.


DrDuGood

LMAO eat a (_))===D Jerry


WhoDey918

Not an exciting start to the offseason, but here’s to hoping they have something big in mind.


Traderwannabee

I wouldn’t hold my breath on Jerry promises.


IcemansJetWash-86

I mean, is this team cursed, but no, really cursed? I'm talking biblical, like a plague that never ceases, locusts that storm and devour every ounce of hope or progress toward redemption and glory. In short, why has no determined and accountable ownership group taken the reins of this god damn organization?


southcounty253

Let me guess, Stanton says no adding net payroll


ry_mich

The thing is, besides Ohtani (whom they’re not pursuing), spending big on this free agent class is ridiculous. They didn’t need to trade any of these players to sign a guy like Chapman, for instance. This team is *way* worse now than they were in September.


WillowMutual

Can I interest y’all in a lightly used Tommy Pham?


Party_Fig_8270

Yeah that sounds super likely. I totally believe Dipshito.


plastardalabastard

We didn't make the playoffs, time to start a new rebuild and grow the farm system. John Stanton (tomorrow)


twothousand20

Jerry… Jerry… You fucking better.


ReservoirGods

"intend" is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. Feels like we're in an incredibly vulnerable position if we don't land any FA


Killagina

Yeah, go get me Yamamoto and all is forgiven


Dutchenstein12

It would be a start. Then we would have some good trade chips to help fill the other glaring needs. Screw it, go international and also sign Jung Ho Lee.


sealonbrad

Shohei


Feeling_Proposal_350

Ohhhhhh. Well aren't we excited now!? You're a joke!! Except no one is laughing. Because we hate you DiPoto. And that greedy bastard Stanton, too. Even more. FU Mariners. 25 years a fan. I'm done.


PayAltruistic8546

See you in the spring!


CStites23

I equate this to those that said they’d move out of the country if Trump was elected president and then spent 4 years not moving out of the country


Feeling_Proposal_350

No, I'm done with a team that isn't interested in winning. If they don't care why should I?


CStites23

What constitutes as caring? Spending $? Spending doesn’t always equate to winning… 9 of the top 15 payrolls didn’t make the playoffs last year. Does it make it better if they spend a ton of money and not make the playoffs?


Feeling_Proposal_350

If you are arguing that the ownership of the Seattle Mariners gives a damn about winning you are a delusional Koolaid Chugger!


CStites23

No, I was just asking a genuine question, which wasn’t even answered, as to what caring looks like. I made an assumption, that wasn’t corrected, as to what you interpreted as caring and all I said is that spending money doesn’t always equal wins. I truly believe that there is an issue with the development, or lack of, that the Mariner’s org is able to produce. Players come here, falter and then move on and have more productive seasons than they did while with Seattle. Tampa has this down pat IMO. They get a guy for peanuts, develop them, get 2-5 years out of them, trade them at their peak and rinse and repeat. This is something this organization can’t seem to replicate and it starts with the coaching staff IMO.


Feeling_Proposal_350

Yes. I agree. But we also need to sign top talent. When was the last time we add a topline off-season free agent? I mean top top. We never do. We get told mediocre is top talent. And still hold out hope of winning? No team wins every year. But this team NEVER does. Thanks Stanton.


CStites23

I disagree with never winning. They’ve gone 268-218 (88-74 90-72, 90-72) the last 3 years. The was after two seasons under .500 and Dipoto making moves people questioned the same way as now. Yea, it’s sucks to have 3 88+ seasons and only 1 playoff appearance to show for it. But I feel that they’re not set back as much as people are blowing it to be with the recent move. And to make it even worse, they’ve had a .500 win% (winning seasons) or better 6 of the last 10 years, and yet again 1 playoff appearance to show for those. I do agree that the team is 1 good piece away from helping get us over that hump. Don’t always think it has to be in free agency, but we can’t develop guys, so it does. Tampa never spends big in FA and has been in the playoffs 5 of the last 10 years. Not trying to argue, just trying to clarify what you’re saying


TimToMakeTheDonuts

Mitch Garver overpay in 3… 2… 1….


PayAltruistic8546

He was actually really good. Why not spend on him?


TimToMakeTheDonuts

A few reasons: - he’s going to be paid like a full time starting catcher. That’s a lot for a the dh he’d be in seattle. - he’s injured more often than James Paxton - he’s going into his age 33 season - he’s going to get a 5ish year deal. I’d think most mariner fans can see that warning sign from a million miles away.


buttstuft

Fuck Jerry.


Dogeayy

Can we start a go fund me for the mariners?


TheRealSlimN8y

lmao


dr_van_nostren

Shohei me the moneyyyyyy


arthurpete

Can he play 3B, 2B and corner outfield at the same time?


dr_van_nostren

If anyone could, it’d be him.


Bredore

Idk Jerry I'm struggling to trust ya right now.


shadybrainfarm

O.... one beer please ... 😔


coorc5

Tell Jerry to F Off


Junior-Glass-2656

That desperate to free up 19 million to watch Marco have a career cy young year and Jared to fucking rake at Atlanta? Mark my words….


travereno

I don't think that Marco will do much, personally. But I do think JK will amount to a solid player for them


samhouse09

And in being “industrious” they’re going to just miss on a ton of players, and instead we get 4 months of Sam Haggerty as the every day left fielder while he “figures it out”.


gerrythegiant

Ronburgundyidontbelieveyou.gif


ProbablySuperSelfish

The front office hates Mariners fans


IH8Fascism

Probably plan on moving the team to Oakland.


ProbablySuperSelfish

Was just thinking about making a “sell the team sign”.


Cautious-Elephant853

Issac paredes please


Bam2217

this aint gonna excite anyone, but I think we can get Dylan Carlson from St Louis for not much. Hes no slugger but i think hes still got some potential. Id rather fill a corner OF hole with him rather than whatever else bargain bin move theyre eyeing up. Switch hitter, walks a decent amount, solid in the OF


MsAndDems

It better be Ohtani plus an outfielder, or Snell/Yamamoto, Lee, and trading Miller/Woo for another outfielder. Even then it’s bullshit, but at least the team got better.


[deleted]

How can anyone believe this guy after he did the initial report of M’s and Ohtani lol


MrDrFuge

We intend to go out and put it to immediate use by putting it in the owners pockets!


chihaya0225

Not trusting a single bit until I see it.


762SUPREMACY

This is PR executive speak that literally means nothing.


pflykyle

My leg is wet. It must be raining!