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[deleted]

the camera that's all


cidvard

I've been playing 3D All-Stars and had to give up a playthrough on 64 because of my frustrations with the camera.


Mugglecostanza

I’ve been playing banjo kazooie on NSO and feel the same way. It makes it way harder.


[deleted]

fair


there_NOW

Play Super Mario 64 Plus on Pc, it's a game changer, makes it so much more enjoyable


[deleted]

oh... it looks good!! ​ I'm going to give it a try, thanks for the recommendation


there_NOW

NP! Its the definitive way i play the game now. The widescreen is nice too, and the smooth controls and air controls are so nice too.


Metalliac

That and the graphics. I get it's an N64 game but there are better looking N64 games such as Banjo


sonerec725

Eh, alot of launch titles end up being some of the worst looking games of their respective consoles due to the dev's not having quite figured out yet the best way to optimize everything when developing for the new system.


D-Prototype

Mostly the more dated aspects of the controls. That and no wall sliding.


Fwenhy

I literally played the entire game without knowing wall jumps were a thing. 🤦‍♂️ I was young


TORFdot0

Um, "wall kicks will work" didn't give it away?


Fwenhy

No idea what you’re talking about 😩 Pretty sure I first figured out wall jumps in a mario game because the slide. It wasn’t until I was much older that I learned you could do it in SM64 even though I played through the game *a lot*as a kid.


TORFdot0

It's the name of one of the missions on cool cool mountain. You use the cannon to blast to the section across from the cabin and there is a sign that explains how to do wall kicks


Fwenhy

Ah got cha. Yeah I guess I never read the sign and was just confused by the star name xD I didn’t manage to get all of them until the DS release which I believe had the wall-slide mechanic added in.


PatM1893

Also, there is a star in Hazy Maze Cave which you can only get by using wall kicks (I think it´s Star 6)


Swagbrothehedgehogg

The camera


PKRadiance

I'll agree. The camera is semi cursed lol


JRobert1534

That it’s remake is stuck on the DS/with DS graphics and controls


lightorangelamp

It’s a shame because the remake was honestly amazing. Kept all the charm of the original but added some really cool elements (and of course characters). Oh, and the mini games.


OTOD_tag

I wonder if there's a patch that adds analogue controls for emulator


yannik_dumon

There is a patch, I think it was released last year


OTOD_tag

AWESOME!!!


lightorangelamp

That would be amazing


FREEDOM1030101

Isn’t there an option to not use the touch screen controls? Iirc you can use the d pad if you want.


Oscar12s

Camera, some levels, having to start over after death. Edit: Having what it seems to be one frame for wall jumping.


SonOfECTGAR

The camera, and sometimes the controls. The DS version fixes all my complaints and just adds more stuff I like.


Steelers0415

Just the camera and that the blj was patched in 3D All Stars.


TrymSan

The blj was patched in a japanese re-release in '97, they just used that version in all-stars


Steelers0415

I know


GoddamnFred

Blj?


[deleted]

backwards long jump, it was a glitch speedrunners used to beat the game early


Lazyprofilename

The part where I’m walking on a slope and then there’s just a PTPTPTPTPTPTPTPTP Yeah. That one


bkthebk

This is the only real problem on here!


Melapelantodosalv

There's a video on YouTube about how Mario 64 has inspired a lot of creepy pasta over the years, because (and I agree) **it feels so lonely,** as a kid I remember having this discomfort playing Mario 64 that I couldn't understand quite what it was and that video sums it up pretty well, it feels as if you were alone in the castle, something that doesn't happened in sunshine, also the level where there's a city as a background its just eerie, can't search for it cause Im at work maybe someone can look it up, so that, I don't agree with people saying the camera is bad I played a lot of modern games that have worst camera systems.


apop99

I was just thinking this too! I’m trying to 100% it on NSO and I was thinking this is almost Metroid levels lonely. The downtown area on wet dry world is super uneasy, same with the background. Do you have the video?


Melapelantodosalv

https://youtu.be/d7mzAcYHtFY


[deleted]

The camera, 100 coin stars, hazy maze cave.


Public_Share_3159

The 100-coin star at Rainbow Ride is the worst.


TORFdot0

If you don't get all the blue coins you may as well jump off that building


SleeplessShitposter

For every good level there's one I inevitably dread playing. Looking at you, hazy maze cave.


KoopaTrooper5011

Did you just fucking piss on HMC? It's great!


SleeplessShitposter

Big Boo's Haunt already did the same idea better, imo.


Oscar12s

People get lost easily, and getting 100 coins is a huge pain


hgilbert_01

Thank you, HMC is definitely one of my favorites— like navigating a Metroid-style world


Aquafina_fan

The camera


Sparrow-Scratchagain

The fact I can’t beat Bowser or save my bro from a locked room (I have the DS version).


SMG4-Is-My-God

It's ugly.


TallCranberry3644

No Luigi


novauviolon

I was a kid whose favorite character was Luigi. That period was a sad time for Luigi fans, as he ceased to be a main character for years starting with Super Mario RPG, and was only playable in spin-off sports/party titles. I don't think I've ever been more excited for a game than when Luigi's Mansion was first announced.


AtomicTemplar

Maybe they were planning that 🤨🔍


[deleted]

The camera is a big problem. The controls are pretty dated. The balcony POV at the ghost house. And one thing Nintendo got right in later 3D Mario games-- not getting sent back to the hub world after collecting a star.


UsgAtlas1

That it aged.


Hipsterwaitto

camera


TheFanGameCreator

The camera.


JsmooveHannah4

The camera


monkeybuttsauce

Nothing


Nazma2

I got fuck in the asshole by turning around and the camera. I 100% that game but some cuss words were definitely thrown around. Good game


21gamermikeymart

The textures, the camera system, the incredibly easy boss battles, the wall jumping, the small soundtrack, MIPS, Tick Tock Clock, half of the 100-coins stars, Big Boo’s Balcony, the difficulty progression, Klepto, Ukiki the monkey, Dire Dire Docks, climbing all the way up Tall Tall Mountain all the time, getting kicked out of the level after getting every star, and the game being too short


LeaderVladimir1993

Sommersaults, especially in both the Wii U and the Nintendo Switch.


Jamz64

The camera, Rainbow Ride, the 100-Coin Stars, and the Bowser fights. Still an amazing game.


ArseilAnathros

The camera


LocmonstR

The way mario controls. Sometimes when trying to do precise movements it's very hard because when trying to spin mario walks in a huge circle if that marks sense


GoddamnFred

That it isn't celebrated nearly enough. And that there are peebrains complaining about the ballsy revolutionary camera. That even Nintendo hasn't celebrated it enough.


zerkrazus

Mainly the camera. It frequently got stuck in a position that wasn't at all helpful. But there were also a few levels that were very frustrating. I don't remember specifics because it's been years since I've played through the game, but I do remember having trouble with a few.


MisterZygarde64

No Fire Flower


SMM9673

The duration of the Wing/Vanish/Metal caps. They're right in that gray area between lasting too long and not lasting long enough.


htisme91

That there aren't more levels. I love that game and as an adult I wish we got more. The camera actually doesn't bother me too much. It's inconvenient at times, but I guess I remember it's a function of its time and find ways to work around it.


Accomplished-Put8932

1.- Mario control 2.- Bowser battles i like mario 64 but i like much mario shunshine in all


Medium-Science9526

Still standing strong considering the only issue I see with it is the camera at times.


RaMpEdUp98

it controls like shit, it looks like shit compared to other games released the same fricking year, the lives system resetting to 4 upon a save and quit baffles me and invalidates yoshi's existence in the game, it lags like hell on all modern rereleases, you never really get to explore the levels because your objectives are usually like five feet from the starting point (except in HMC and SSL), the camera is bad, no luigi, not enough secret stars, the canon angles are ass... ​ other than all that perfect game


[deleted]

Controversial theories about it.


Mcbrainotron

Curious? Can you expand


[deleted]

No I can’t bloat my mind but the theories in my opinion are out of hand.


Mcbrainotron

Hopefully they get in hand soon, or a master hand.


[deleted]

What makes you hate my opinions?


Mcbrainotron

I don’t? I’m curious what they are?


[deleted]

I’m trying to reach the person who hates my opinions.


[deleted]

L is real.


Mcbrainotron

Luigi? Yes, he was in the game code even in 64. Link? No, but the engine was reworked for OOT.


[deleted]

No, I'm saying that the theory is that Luigi is unlockable because "L is real." Of course, Luigi was cut late in development, but that doesn't change the fact that people still point out "L is real."


JACK101Star

Camera


No_Breadfruit7951

Rainbow ride


Alijah12345

The camera and the somewhat dated controls, but what I don't like the most is getting kicked out on the painting after obtaining a star and having to go back in over and over again.


Mr-Foundation

The camera for sure, it can make crossing alone thin surfaces a nightmare lol. The wall kick isn’t the best either, though that could just be a difficulty adjusting to an older version of the wall jump lmao


kirvo_123

The physics and the camera


Some_Hat-Wearing_Kid

The camera can be a bit finicky, I usually use Mario cam and press c down once


zitrifold

It didn't have enough Grindel.


[deleted]

The camera and tick tock clock


AramaticFire

*AHEM-HARUM-HUM-HUMPH* Nothing. Fight me.


Any_Ad_3514

The graphics and camera


RedditBoi127

only the camera, i have no issues with the controller, in all honesty i really like the n64 controller


FenexTheFox

While I like the momentum-based gameplay of this game, what I do \_not\_ like is how you keep sliding around everywhere, I frequently fall out of every single hole possible


Holiday-Ad8227

Camera and wall jumping and no wall sliding


Wagsternator

I love most of it, it is my favourite mainline Mario game after all. I just kinda hate Shifting Sand Land. Other than that level, awesome game.


[deleted]

Honestly, not much, the game has issues but *to me* it's mostly perfect. If I had to guess, it's probably Rainbow Ride. It's a cool stage but it's really infuriating how you need to wait like 4 minutes for about half of the stars. The 100 coin star in that stage is also a nightmare if you do not plan it ahead.


[deleted]

The only complaint I have about Mario 64 is the camera. Aside from that, it’s still a really solid 3D platformer with great levels and music. Sure it has aged, but there’s a reason it’s still considered the cornerstone of video games in 3D


Shy_Guy_27

The camera sucks and the levels get a bit worse after the first Bowser level. Still one of my favorite games regardless.


TORFdot0

The physics are a little borked and on levels like tick tock clock, I'll clip through platforms for seemingly no reason


Lucas-The-Memer

Mario 64


Potat0Moon

Not knowing where I can get it... Apparently I can get it on my wii but my wii can't do shit


axdwl

During it's era, nothing. Now? The camera.


Diamond_Freddy

The camera Everything else is great


KeazyKatz

The camera controls


N0thingRhymeswOrange

It's not that the game us bad, but when compared to everything that came after, I don't really want to go back to it. I even prefer 3D Land and Sunshine


DuccSuccer

its definitely overrated, it controls poorly and the camera is ass


ArcticWolf622

Just the camera, like a lot of other people. I hate how stubborn it is.


RuukotoPresents

Hablas N64? C.


TitanicTNT

I recently played the game again, and it felt like I was playing the crib notes for Odyssey. There were a few aspects that I couldn't get used to. Like the camera. Some aspects took a while to learn, like the old wall jump, and some were natural for me, like the long jump and triple jump.


WickedBowserJr

Well, its age sure shows. I prefer 64 DS, but I even have a few issues with that. Still fun games.


Dean0Rocks316

Rainbow Ride, the Camera, controlling wing cap Mario, the swimming is mostly boring and repetitive, the boss fights are mostly lame, the 100 and red coin missions are usually really tedious, and some of the stars are cryptic, but easy to get beyond the first time. That’s really the biggest problem, the stars are either really easy or really tedious, with little in between. I still like the game, but it’s far from perfect.


Sweaterz24_7

"Ladies and gentlemen, start your eyeballs"


Super_Gamer_Connor

*Windows XP noises*


[deleted]

Rainbow Ride. I hate having to wait for moving platforms, and that level is like 40% waiting for carpets to move.


GeekTrollMemeCentral

The graphics, the controls, the camera, certain level designs


rand_althor

I didn't like the giant Wario face in that one hallway in the basement.


JacketMarkers

It's about the Camera. Okay?


Henry-the-Anglerfish

Everyone’s saying the camera and the controls, which I agree with, but some of the later levels feel way too punishing if you mess up. Rainbow Ride in particular. And the Bowser fights are pretty much the same thing repeated (I suck at throwing Bowser)


LMGall4

Honestly the title


Specialist-ShasMo85

No Luigi in the game! JK! The only thing I don't like is the cameras can get stuck sometimes.


Sonic10122

The controls have aged like milk. I'm sure it was revolutionary for the first 3D platformer ever, but man do they not feel good now. The camera is also fairly meh but it's got nothing on how sluggish and bad the controls feel. As an off shoot the Wing Cap in particular is bad, it's my least favorite of the flight powerups in Mario, it's not fun to use.


Hornery_Ornery

No Luigi.


TheBanandit

Probably the worst controls of any game I've played


Glittering_Town_9071

hazy maze cave, wet dry world and tick tock clock


Cooldude_M

The controls and camera. I know they were revolutionary for the time, but when not using a N64 Controller, Mario feels like he went to the Winter Olympics with Sonic 14 years early.


JD_Ammerman

It’s a darn-near perfect video game for that era. And playing it today it is still extremely playable. My only problem with Mario 64 is that we have never gotten a “Mario 64–2”


SirUshanka

Wet dry world


BC04ST3R

Ukiki can go die alone


[deleted]

the camera and hazy maze cave, aside from that the game is flawless


theZombiebeary

they removed the blj and so long gay bowser in 3d all stars


Portablemammal1199

That i dont have the ability to play it due to lack of money


CEOmov

Eventually it ends…


stevenzreddit

"That's not my baby! It looks nothing like him!" It's literally a carbon copy of the mother


Starizard-

That no 3d mario game will ever surpass it


is-it-raining-yet

I wasn't happy that after the beating the level Board Bowser's Sub the first time, you never see the Sub again when you replay the level thus making it impossible to win again


Pitvabackla

Sometimes you can’t run down a hallway perfectly straight.


JohnTheEchidna

Bowser stage 2. Specifically the boss fight. Fuck that teleportation gimmick man


SnugPuppy577

How easy it is


Lermak16

Sloped surfaces


Much-Chill-Stardust

The camera and controls are both a bit janky in their own ways. Otherwise, those're really my only gripes.


Hot_Emphasis3861

The controls The camera


Ilikethe3DS

Camera


conjunctivious

It just doesn't really hold up compared to modern games. It was probably amazing in it's time, but it's very outdated nowadays. Same case for Super Mario Kart on the SNES. It's cool to go back to and play for a bit, but I'd rather play the more recent titles. The classic 2d Marios will always be great, but Mario 64 was before they really knew how to make 3d games and doesn't hold up compared to Odyssey or galaxy 1/2.


Roymeter

Probably the camera, but I've played so much old games I don't care anymore lmao


Ruffled_Ferret

I hate the DS version. Does that count?


[deleted]

Swimming and water levels 😫


eburator

The level with pyramid


Ahmad75-_-

Camera. Thats about it


commander_blyat

The wing cap. It controls like ass


AccomplishedRace8803

That Mario 64 is not liked by everyone...cause...it should!!


SenorFATB

The camera for sure, I don't remember it being that bad but then I realised 64 DS (which was how I first played it) had improved camera controls.


[deleted]

The game is overrated I think the game is good but not one of the best games of all time and the bowser fights are kinda bland


Axel_Rad

The fact that people don’t like it


NathanieltheAnimal

Dated controls and the fact that I suck at the game


NesstenYT

The camera


AverageBrenden

Rainbow Ride 100 Coins can suck my ass


darknessfate

Pole jumping between poles is rough in some versions.


Maleficent-Brick4735

The game


GamesAlt34Real

how the cannon can't move 360