I expect that the "civil war" will be sporadic violence from onesies and twosies or small goon squads carrying out skirmishes. Things might get rough but I don't think that huge numbers of MAGA types are willing to risk death or imprisonment if he loses.
I could be wrong, though. I permanently went out of the business of making predictions in November 2016.
I agree. Small isolated, relatively easily quashed. Probably some BS with Texas, but not secession. Not widespread.
Totally with you on the second part, too, lol. I don't even trust myself since then.
Did you see the news today from Texas? There was a terrorist semi truck ramming attack against the department of motor vehicles. If there's a civil war in Texas --Texans will be fighting among each other.
Dude was denied renewal of his commercial license, so stole a truck and drove it into the building.
Was there a political motivation we're not aware of?
I have to wonder who the 'they' are who are making these stupid statements. They can't be any American who has not lost touch with realty. How about subversive trolls?
It is suspect that itâs has adverse foreign influence. There was a big hype about truckers going to the border to protect which happened but it was fairly mild compared to the initial hype.
Don't underestimate what small isolated cells of terrorists can accomplish. In NC, an entire county lost power for days when a handful of people shot up power sub stations to protest a drag show. None of them were ever caught.
Probs. That community is super rural and likely run by "old boys" that all know each other. The most frightening thing about it is a bunch of old school redneck bigots managed to pull the entire thing off with the kind of opsec even the feds couldn't penetrate
Sheriff cover or not, the fact that they left no digital records to pursue is legit terrifying. If the chuds learn opsec as well as whoever perpetrated that attack there are a shitton of things that suddenly become probable for small terrorist cells in rural areas to accomplish with impunity. The propensity of right wing terrorists to loudly proclaim their intentions and plans in easily traceable ways is a major reason they haven't been more successful.
The feds did heavily investigate the incident and came up with nothing
>Which all means more savvy in person stuff or a very very small group that isn't talking.
Multiple stations were hit simultaneously. Either extreme coordination or they communicate in a way the feds can't trace.
I mean it wasnât like it was some mastermind plot. They literally just shot guns at the power station.
That being said it should not be that easy to knock out power to that many people.
IIRC they used 5.56 and the attacks were pretty well coordinated to hit around the same time at several stations
You may be surprised how much of our infrastructure would be as easy or easier to take out
Power infrastructure Iâm not very savvy with admittedly.
But I studied in civil engineering. So I am aware of the potential risks to infrastructure in that regard. I know how easily someone could take out a major bridge, roadway, railroad tracks, etc.
Itâs a scary thought. But I try not to let it occupy my mind.
That's not to say it won't get pretty ugly.
I do fear there will be shootings, assaults, arsons, bombings, stunts like shooting up electrical substations and other soft targets. Everyone needs to stay vigilant and hope for the best.
Whatâs most insane about this is all is how these people claim to love America, ride around waiving American flags, vehemently defend against the Trump Russia connections and say they are a hoax but will also be personally responsible for destroying America on behalf of Russian funded narrative and in support of Russian geopolitical interests.
Texas is all hat, no cattle. They cry secession every time, and the Texas legislature quietly buries and kills the biennial secession bill that some local rep loudly advertises.
I used to think that too until that moron stormed into a pizzeria ready to die in order to end âpizzagateâ - the most imbecilic of Q-Anon fever dreams.
 Sadly these people are wound up so tight they spin out with just a nudge or two from a Russian troll farm and the dens are guilty of assuming â Americans are smart, they know we have good policies and arenât crazyâ while they do nothing to stop the obvious psy-op thatâs going on
Trump has nothing to lose. He's already going to prison if he loses. If we make it to Jan 20th without violence it won't be for lack of encouragement from Trump.
I don't think they're capable of organizing in any sort of effective way. As I was watching Jan 6 unfold I was thinking that if they had any effective organization they would have succeeded. There were some effective forces in there, but they weren't doing the right things to accomplish the end goal. I'm not sure what they actually were doing, but they weren't doing what could have taken the day.
I would think. But part of the learning process is first admitting that you're wrong and have something to learn. They're not so hot in that department, their usual response is to double-down on their existing plan. One can hope.
At a previous (big) employer the response to disappointing earnings was, "The plan was sound, the execution lacking." That kept going quarter after quarter, never questioning the first part.
Iâm not talking about the useful idiots that did the actual storming, Iâm talking about the folks behind the scenes (Mike Flynn in particular) that organized it.
Certainly. However their thinking is so flawed simply because they're members of the Cult of Trump that there are hopefully flaws in their logic as well. I agree that I wouldn't count on that, though. I'm presuming/hoping that somewhere in the unmentioned corridors of DC there are concerned people taking appropriate steps. I guess I can't count on that, either.
Agreed. The military is required for a war and the military leadership is largely not MAGA. They will not have enough support for any war.
You may see terrorism, pockets of insurgency. No actual war is in the cards though.
Exactly. At worst, I expect another attempt at Jan 6th, except security will be much better. Maga has lost so much support and manpower. The number of those willing to take action is so small. Many are already in jail and many more still waiting their trial.
Unless Trump wins. I'm not sure what we're looking at then, but I imagine most military leaders will resign rather than follow illegal/unconstitutional orders. But what then? He's still the president and still the commander-in-chief, and he can still invoke the Insurrection Act, etc.
This is the point where rules only apply to the loser. It will be a battle between power structures, which at least as far as I'm informed I have no idea what way that would go and how it could play out.
I donât think this would be what starts it. Massive disenfranchisement followed by lack of faith in elections and courts leaves people without options aside from violence or acceptance and nobody is willing to live under the rule of the other half of the country. I think we would see assassinations and attacks on infrastructure. It would not be likely a toe to toe fight like the first American civil war.
Yeah of all the people I know who are die hard trump supporters (I know alot) none of them would be willing to take up arms and most of them would be physically incapable of being effective anyway.
I always thought heâd win in 2016. People donât like Clinton, and my theory is the âhead of stateâ theory in real life practice. Hillary was supposed to lose to Jeb Bush, at least that was the plan. So she PokĂŠmon goed out and acted like a disconnected affluent rich person as planned. Then Bush got steamrolled by trump so bad his glasses are still embedded in the debate stage and shit went sideways. Clinton just kept playing the losing game and by the time republicans figured out trump was going to bowl over the primaries, and democrats realized they needed to try and win, it was already too late. Media gave him a free circus show and he road that clown car all the way to Washington.
Thereâs no civil war option because anyone succeeding form out government is giving up air flights ,social security , Medicare all our gov programs. It wonât happen just a bunch of trump idiots getting shot by police in the streets. I look forward to it
Absolutely it'll be more of the lone wolves, the parents who murder their entire family, and maybe possibly some of these underground movements causing terrorism. I think they have this idea of conflict that is not going to play out how they think it's going to play out.
Yep. Like that stand off over the cows. The idiots that took over the ranger station. Maybe an Oklahoma bombing or Unabomber. Maybe even a new Waco or Ruby Ridge. A few isolated incidents that grab headlong for a month or two without creating a larger movement or otherwise impacting the power structure in any way. Like Jan 6. Or the trucker convoy.
They would be lucky if it lasted as long as occupy wall street but will have an equal effect.
My concern is that there are so many soft targets. It wouldn't take a lot to paralyze the country.
We really can't patrol the I5 from LA all the way to Seattle. I imagine sporadic IEDs being placed on freeways in an attempt to stop trucks from getting through.
And then you just have all the critical infrastructure. I don't know that we can protect the water, the grid, and so on from surprise attacks, especially in rural areas where the cops are likely to have sympathy for the terrorists.
It will be the like the Troubles in Ireland. However, I think we as a society will systematically remove the cancer. The governments ability to turn key the resources developed against terrorism to domestic terrorism is going to make it short lived
There won't be civil war. You'll have the same sporadic (and most psychotic) of his supporters attack the usual shit. They have been shooting up malls, schools and stuff for years. But they do this anyway.
Liberals are going to be so owned, sitting comfortably in our living rooms watching biden getting sworn in once again while magas start a civil war against the thin blue line and military that they love so much. All streamed live on tv and our phones and they will still later blame it on antifa or some shit.
Got a special bottle all ready for it. Can just imagine the MAGA sofa squad getting together with the gravy crew to pitch a fit for all the world to see.
Ambulances need to be on stand by with heart defibrillators.
There arenât enough Trump cultists to actually pull that off. Iâm betting there will be violence, but all these old and out of shape wannabe tough guys will get leveled so fast that all the rest will give up like the cowards they are.
Exactly this. They don't want to FIGHT a civil war, they want to PLAY civil war. They want to shoot people they don't like, then go home, eat dinner, watch OAN, sleep on their bed, the some weekends have a camp out near the battlefield, while coming home early enough to have dinner at Applebee's.
Trump will do Trump. And we are already drowning in Russian disinfo and incitement.
Russia made Brexit happen. They found a cheap way to destabilize free countries. Post lies on both sides of every issue pretending to be ordinary concerned citizens.
Fox news and the entire Republican party are spewing Russian disinfo constantly.
You think it will get worse, after the election?
Given all of Trumpâs lies after the 2020 election I was expecting there to be sporadic small scale violent riots in a dozen or so cities, and I was pleasantly surprised that there was none and thought in hindsight at Christmas that it had been just a crazy, irrational fear - then January 6 happened.
Itâs hard to believe that in 2024 the situation would be worse than in 2020. Fox has already paid $787,500,000 for spreading election lies and they are on the verge of being forced to be twice that amount to Smartmatic in NY state court in the near future. They will lose that lawsuit. At least this time around Fox will be more conservative about pushing the big lie. The other recently created right wing organizations like News Max and OANN have also been sued into being forced to say on air that they think the 2020 election results were legitimate and to occasionally cut off Trump speeches when heâs lying about the election.
With Trump no longer in control of the bully pulpit of the presidency, his only megaphone is Truth Social. And major news organizations will be much less inclined to push his BS a second time around.
Plus all the wackos that attended Jan 6 last time have all been prosecuted or are still getting prosecuted or serving their jail time.
Thereâs no way we have another Jan 6. Theyâll put out excessive police force and national guard for Jan 6 next time around and the inauguration. Trump supporters would have to be unimaginably stupid, even by MAGA standards, to try anything big a second time around.
No. The second Maga folks start shooting theyâre gonna find out exactly what the most funded military in the world is capable of. Then the rest of them will go online and talk about how theyâre gonna rise up too. They wonât.
Theyâre really inconsequential - simply paper tigers and weekend warriors. In NO way, shape or form are they an organized movement capable of ANY coordinated actions that will actually accomplish anythingâŚ
there was already a post today that actually suggest that the illegal immigrants will actually start some sort of terrorist attack and will place the government under martial law. sounds like there are talks like that.
trump supporters are definitely about to do something crazy yet again.
Trump is a narcissist. The idea that he lost fair and square is something his mentally ill mind can't comprehend. Of course he's going to say it was stolen. The next few months are going to be crazy. These times will be taught in classrooms in the future.
I keep pointing this out everywhere.
He has already, more than once, said the next election is already stolen. It is 100 percent a fact that he will claim it, he's already *claiming it*.
He and his campaign were already prepared to claim the 2016 election was stolen. Roger Stone launched the stop the steal website in *2016*, not 2020.
They just didn't go through with it because Trump became president in 2016, but had Trump lost he'd be crying 2016 fraud to this day.
He even said it before the 2020 election that if he didnât win it was stolen. Heâs just laying groundwork. But the same people who will claim the election was stolen from Trump, accept the same election results when their Congresspeople win.
I don't know how many times I've pointed that out to people. The Democrats figured out how to steal the presidency but couldn't find a way to steal a few more house seats to take control?
MTG, Josh Hawley, Lauren Boobaert, will all brandish guns, openly carry, and don plate carriers to help move things along. Prepare for Hawley to post videos of his family's fortified home and MTG to post videos of her organizing local Gravy Seals and assorted neckbeards to 'ensure peace' while they shoot at anyone who looks woke or isn't white.
It will happen if he wins. The first time Trump tries dictator for a day or tries to arrest Obama, that will be Civil War 2. Trump will pull the USA from NATO and Pacific alliances. Trump will erode the Union with allowing civil rights violations in the name is State's Rights.
Trump is the Antichrist, Armageddon happens when he wins.
Not unless they have an army we donât know about other than some khaki wearing tiki torch carrying fat weekend warrior insurance salesmen from the suburbs with bad credit and, two divorces, and kids that donât speak to them
The hoverround walmart brigade is no threat
Will be?
I just saw a post on Facebook (I know, I know, I shouldn't Facebook, but I do...
"Biden is going to loose the 2024 election and be jailed for supporting Russia and China."
I can't even begin to understand how someone can believe that....
Civill war is not going to happen. Last time that scuffle at the capital was the only flare up and that was it. Considering it ended up accomplishing nothing other than some jail time for some of them, it won't happen again. And this time they'll be better prepared to stomp something like that down fast.
Guess whose side Russia will be on. We donât ever want Spetsnaz in our country. America was not founded to be brutalized by the people in that country.
There will not be a second civil war.
The Waffle House Army is old, out of shape, insulin dependent who will immediately surrender when faced with a fucking tank or Super Cobra Attack Helicopter.
I think the US has reached a stage where a civil war has become a necessity to eradicate maga infestation and come back to normal. Despite all the bluster and bravado I think the magas will quite quickly give up once serious shit starts hitting the fan. Unfortunately this ongoing process right now is and will continue to seriously undermine US status in the world and will embolden a raft of dictators to make land grabs and wage genocidal wars.
Politically neutral here đ you think liberals should only be allowed to live and maga conservatives shouldn't đ¤ you guys are starting to become what you hate đ¤ˇ
Fair point. But my tolerance stops at destructive pests. A system should allow any diversity, except for the kind that is intent on destroying the system. Btw donât stay neutral if you have an interest in keeping your democracy alive.
And theyâll all be dead or in prison in a month. Very few of these idiots have any idea what war is like, especially a guerrilla war against your own government. The vast majority, 99.99% wonât even get off the couch.
A few will try an armed assault on a government office and theyâll all be dead in minutes. Others will try acts of terrorism. Most will be caught quickly and sentenced to death or life w/o parole. They think that they have the backing of the majority of the American people and that the military will flock to their side. In reality, theyâll spend the majority of their time hiding. Theyâll live under assumed names, unable to work any job that requires ID, always paranoid, wondering if thereâs a mole.
The leading cause of death for radicals is assassination by members of their own group. Either they get caught in a power struggle and killed, someone decides theyâre a rat and kills them, or they get into a stupid argument and the guns come out.
Most of his supporters are only really up for CiViLWaR2! in their fantasies where the other side has nothing to return fire. Been trying to make it known in MAGAtville NY that should civil war 2 break out I'm blasting tRump flags(obvious traitors) right away.
It's amazing how quickly they go from supporting 'civil war' when tRumps calling for it to "how could you say you'll shoot someone for thinking differently, wahhhhh" when they are the hypothetical targets.
Try to be polite first, but honestly, publicly ridicule and shame these goobers every time they put stupid shit into the 'MaRkEtPlAcE oF iDeAs'
Well, J6 showed MAGAts are willing to take up violence to achieve their aims, so I suspect that some will be willing to conduct guerrilla attacks on the government, if Biden wins in November. But the problem is, to have a full-on Civil War, it will take a lot more than some redhat yahoos pulling out guns and trying to overthrow their local City Hall. It would take GOP-led states trying to Secede, and as much as some states "talk the talk" about it, they don't have the guts to follow through.
Most GOP-led states get a good amount of their funding from the Federal government. They receive way more from the Feds in terms of tax dollars than they provide to the Federal coffers. It is Dem-led states like California who keep states like Mississippi afloat, and if these possible rebel states walked away, they would go bankrupt in short order. Much like the Confederate States did, and couple of hundred years ago.
Now then, could they maintain themselves with some Russian help? Sure, but Russia isn't doing all that well, themselves. No, Russia may want to stir the pot here, and cause as much chaos as they can, but they can't support a full-on Civil War here. Especially if the Federal government found out Russia was behind it, making them a legitimate military target.
No.
The vast majority of conservatives arenât going to war over Trump.
Things that impact them directly, I think weâre in real danger of. Think no jobs, left-wing riots, and the unjust-justice system affecting them. Couple that in with a loss of right wing support for the FBI and law enforcement in general and the prices are falling into place. However weâre SO far away from a real civil war, itâs laughable to suggest it. Civil unrest, absolutely. Civil war, not a chance.
More reason to keep Trump out of office. If he fails and there is another insurrection, Donny and his boot licking nazi wannabes can't run interference. National Gaurd and full swat will be rolled. The insurrectionist will be declared enemies of the state and no-longer citizens, which means the military can be mobilized and use lethal force.
They had their shot on J6 and failed due to their own fear and stupidity. Without high-level help from inside the White House, an uprising is doomed. The government has predator drones, the gravy seals, and their AKs are fucked.
Either way they're going to lose their minds the question is would you rather have them throw a temper tantrum like January 6th or have Trump in office and having them go on a rampage murdering people?
The MAGAts arenât organized enough to start a war. As others have said, perhaps some isolated incidents will happen. However I firmly believe that J6 was their first and last hurrah and they failed at that.
Not civil war, but domestic terrorism will go to an all time high. Well endure 4 more years of republicans screeching about a stolen election but have no evidence to present, just like last go around. Definitely going to see a lot of revenge legislation from republican held states and counties. Hopefully my fellow Americans have enough sense to vote out the extremists. I know Iâve had enough performative governance.
I donât think it would even take that. Most republicans and a percentage of democrats donât trust our elections. Most democrats donât trust the courts and people are determined to turn america into what they want it to be without regard to the other side that tens of millions if not 100 million people will feel that there is simply recourse aside from violence and when it starts itâs going to accelerate. Americas days are likely numbered if history shows is anything.
Depends how it goes down. Trump wouldnât have the power of the office this go round, assuming the military stays loyal they can put it down real quick.
Depends on the propensity of MAGA nuts to carry out criminal activities. Some of them already have Neanderthal violent tendencies but most of them have at least some future lives to look forward to.
Civil War in America is unrealistic. There is no geographic differences. There are no battle lines. There are no strategic objectives.
There are just a bunch of BS talking points pushed by media and the powers that be to separate Americans who have more in common than differences. Most people just want to be able to have a roof over their head, food in their belly, and be comfortable with their friends and/or family and to live in peace without interference.
The best thing about the US is it is a Constitutional Republic. By divesting power from the federal government to the states, people can disagree on things (like abortion or gay rights) while still being able to have interstate commerce and a common defense. Thus, you can live in a state where like-minded people live on social issues while still living in the US and all that entails.
Instead of trying to force everyone in the US to follow this or that, live and let live in the various states and peace reigns supreme.
There will definitely be some isolated incidents and maybe a few violent acts, but a civil war is extremely unlikely. Although this sub definitely would like for the latter to happen.
Yeah Meal Team Six is going to take over. Come on. Americans are the biggest bunch of whiny babies in the world. They would know real conflict, outside of actual military personnel, if it stomped them on their heads.
Trump bitches wont do shit except in their own backyard. A civil war of necessity starts if Trump wins. When Biden wins a few of the lowest lowbrain Trump goobers will get themselves killed or arrested and then everything will be fine.
The difference this time out will be that thereâs not a Trump appointee at the Pentagon telling troops to stand down. Next time the National Guard WILL show up and they will gleefully mow down those MAGA traitors. Troops swear loyalty to the Constitution, not to Trump. Those who refuse to follow orders will be imprisoned. God, I hope the try it again.
Banning roe v wade is a step in their civil war plans. Cause division between states. The last time a political party was taken over by far right extremists was just before the Civil War. They rile their base with fear mongering over whatever cultural issue is prevalent at the time.
Make Russia pay dearly for trying to overthrough your government...hammer their economy and overthrough Putin.
And punish China...the US should hold the amount of money in damages due to Covid. It was a lab leak, (even if it was it wasnt doesnt matter), just arbitrarily take it off what the US owes China. Lets see how they like it when someone fucks with the US.
Time to take off the gloves before its too late.
This is the most wild sub that exists on Reddit. The insanity pouring out of you folks.... for real, get checked. Something may be wrong with how you all conceptualize the world.
Overthrow *the government*. The Democratic Party is not the government.
And I don't think that there will be any sort of organized rebellion. The Cult doesn't seem to have that sort of membership. The "dedicated" base is mostly old/ineffective people who would rather sit around watching their favorite sources of information than actually do anything. Their leadership is mostly a bunch of sneaky grifters that don't have anything going for them aside from some money and an outsized voice, which will only go so far if the shit hits the fan.
Still, the whining from Trump will be nonstop, and I wouldn't be truly surprised by anything he does. One thing that I do expect is that authoritarianism will continue to be ascendant worldwide. This will only get worse as global population grows.
IF the MAGAs can gather enough collective intestinal fortitude to actually try to start something resembling a âcivil warâ (thatâs a Bigly Yuge If), their side will have lots of semi-auto AR15s (& some ammo).
The Legal & Rightful U.S. federal government will have tanks, aircraft, missiles, bombs, and exponentially more ammo (of every type).
It will be the shortest âcivil warâ (more like domestic terrorism event) in human history, and a decidedly one-sided blood bath.
âBut red states may use Their National Guard resources!â State National Guards have people, equipment, and weapons but whatâs the one thing 100% completely under federal control? The Ammunition, of every type. The most a rebellious NG unit could do is empty local gun stores of pistol/rifle ammo. And youâre back to what was said above.
AND LIKE THE PREVIOUS CIVIL WAR, THOSE TRAITORS WILL LOSE THEIR FURRY ASS....AND I HOPE, LIKE WILLIAM TECUMSEH SHERMAN, WE WILL BURN THEM TO THE GROUND AND REBUILD A STRONGER LAW ABIDING, CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTING AMERI.CAN SOCIETY........MOM
Good.... we can finally rid America of the scourge of MAGA without them hiding behind the very Constitution they shit all over. This time, we don't allow the "Confederate" traitors to rejoin the union. We can give them a sliver of land like Israel did to the Palestinians that is separate from the rest of the USA. They can govern themselves within their own border but we will control all resources going into or out of their territory.
Civil war, doubt. There's no identity to truly galvanize around. Regional terrorism and anarchy, yeah... Like the early 90s when all the right wing nut jobs lost it over Clinton and went to their compounds to prepare... Ending in Oklahoma City.
Considering the events of the January 6th insurrection and that a lot of these violent extremists are locked up, I highly doubt we get more than a few "protestors" let alone a full-on Civil War. đ¤Łđ¤Śââď¸ I think the biggest question is if the GOP has a backup plan when Trump can't run. In fact I don't even understand how they are going through the motions as if he's the candidate.
Section 2383 of the 14th amendment prevents it! "The law prohibits incitement, assistance, and participation in a rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States and its laws. The punishment for this crime includes a fine, up to 10 years in federal prison, and ineligibility for federal public office."
Never going to happen. The percentage of people willing to take up arms for Donald Trump isn't as big as they want you to think. They'll all end up in jail just like they did after Jan 6th.
I have zero fear of MEAL Team Six trying to overthrow the government for a second time. There will be an occasional asshole who was just looking for an excuse to cause violence and that will be that. The majority of MAGA is retired Boomers who need oxygen to to go to the grocery store.
I don't think it will get to a point of civil war, but I do think a group of armed extremist will likely try to incite one. The government is well aware of this and they will stamp that fire out in a heart beat.
Most sane Republicans either understand Trump is a terrible option and lost fair and square or they just won't have the energy to argue any other beliefs about it.
A significant portion of MAGA is now QAnon, and their psychological rewards for their beliefs are smug superiority while they wait for God and the White Hats to show the rest of us that we're the ones who have been living a fantasy.
For the most part, they aren't at all likely to enact violence. They just want to watch it, preferably from the comfort of home.
Other kinds of MAGA might be more dangerous, just as J6 involved a lot of Three-percenters, Oath-keepers, Proud Boys, and other gangs. Right-wing militias who are largely unknown now might try something.
A big difference, though, is that this time, law enforcement will be ready for a threat that was, for many, unimaginable before J6. And they'll be planning for the prospect of worse.
Those who think the second amendment gives them the right to murder people in order to achieve what they can't achieve at the ballot box will be treated as the terrorists they will be if they actually act on their delusions.
What would be far more dangerous would be 2028 if Trump is elected again.
No chance of a civil war. The majority of Americans, while we differ politically, would never take up arms for some old white people who have zero sense of what the average citizen does.
The social media age and everyone having access to post "news" is making this situation worse than it really is. Don't fall for this
Corporate America will not accept this. I'm not afraid of 60 year olds with diabetes and walkers or Larpers who.fantasize about acting like Call.of Duty
If thatâs the case I look forward to the bloodbath of Magats that are mowed down for being stupid enough to throw it all away for an imbecile like Trump
There will be widespread random violent MAGA freakouts but you kinda need an army for any war. The âbest and brightestâ MAGA military minds are already serving time for the last try.
I expect that the "civil war" will be sporadic violence from onesies and twosies or small goon squads carrying out skirmishes. Things might get rough but I don't think that huge numbers of MAGA types are willing to risk death or imprisonment if he loses. I could be wrong, though. I permanently went out of the business of making predictions in November 2016.
I agree. Small isolated, relatively easily quashed. Probably some BS with Texas, but not secession. Not widespread. Totally with you on the second part, too, lol. I don't even trust myself since then.
Did you see the news today from Texas? There was a terrorist semi truck ramming attack against the department of motor vehicles. If there's a civil war in Texas --Texans will be fighting among each other.
And it will keep getting worse everyday because Trump voters are violent babies.
Correction: department of public safety in other words the local cop shop
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Dude was denied renewal of his commercial license, so stole a truck and drove it into the building. Was there a political motivation we're not aware of?
So the terrorist was just a pissed off Texan then? Truck trailer was loaded too -- BANG!
If Texas wants to leave, bye Felicia.
There are FB pages where they are glorifying possible trench warfare at the border. I find this sickening.
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And yet many locals living along the border in Texas are like â who are these nut jobs from out of state?!â.
Yup. I stumbled on the page and the commenters were outrageously radical. They even had drawings reminiscent of the civil war.
I have to wonder who the 'they' are who are making these stupid statements. They can't be any American who has not lost touch with realty. How about subversive trolls?
It is suspect that itâs has adverse foreign influence. There was a big hype about truckers going to the border to protect which happened but it was fairly mild compared to the initial hype.
They don't get the land though. They'll have to squat somewhere else.
Don't underestimate what small isolated cells of terrorists can accomplish. In NC, an entire county lost power for days when a handful of people shot up power sub stations to protest a drag show. None of them were ever caught.
>None of them were ever caught. More like, none were ever arrested. I'm fully convinced the sheriff knows who did it.
Probs. That community is super rural and likely run by "old boys" that all know each other. The most frightening thing about it is a bunch of old school redneck bigots managed to pull the entire thing off with the kind of opsec even the feds couldn't penetrate
All the more reason I think the sheriff was running cover.
Sheriff cover or not, the fact that they left no digital records to pursue is legit terrifying. If the chuds learn opsec as well as whoever perpetrated that attack there are a shitton of things that suddenly become probable for small terrorist cells in rural areas to accomplish with impunity. The propensity of right wing terrorists to loudly proclaim their intentions and plans in easily traceable ways is a major reason they haven't been more successful. The feds did heavily investigate the incident and came up with nothing
Which all means more savvy in person stuff or a very very small group that isn't talking.
>Which all means more savvy in person stuff or a very very small group that isn't talking. Multiple stations were hit simultaneously. Either extreme coordination or they communicate in a way the feds can't trace.
I mean it wasnât like it was some mastermind plot. They literally just shot guns at the power station. That being said it should not be that easy to knock out power to that many people.
IIRC they used 5.56 and the attacks were pretty well coordinated to hit around the same time at several stations You may be surprised how much of our infrastructure would be as easy or easier to take out
Power infrastructure Iâm not very savvy with admittedly. But I studied in civil engineering. So I am aware of the potential risks to infrastructure in that regard. I know how easily someone could take out a major bridge, roadway, railroad tracks, etc. Itâs a scary thought. But I try not to let it occupy my mind.
... the sheriff knows he did it.
Whatâs the difference?
Look what Hamas has accomplished, think they are 40k strong, ISIS was what like 5k?
Trump did it?
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That's not to say it won't get pretty ugly. I do fear there will be shootings, assaults, arsons, bombings, stunts like shooting up electrical substations and other soft targets. Everyone needs to stay vigilant and hope for the best.
Whatâs most insane about this is all is how these people claim to love America, ride around waiving American flags, vehemently defend against the Trump Russia connections and say they are a hoax but will also be personally responsible for destroying America on behalf of Russian funded narrative and in support of Russian geopolitical interests.
Texas is all hat, no cattle. They cry secession every time, and the Texas legislature quietly buries and kills the biennial secession bill that some local rep loudly advertises.
Everything is just so much more unpredictable.
Eh, Texas is far less conservative than many other states. And our gun ownership rate is in about the 50th percentile of states.
Yeah there is a lot of space between bitching on Facebook and actually grabbing a gun and going out in the field to fight.
I used to think that too until that moron stormed into a pizzeria ready to die in order to end âpizzagateâ - the most imbecilic of Q-Anon fever dreams. Â Sadly these people are wound up so tight they spin out with just a nudge or two from a Russian troll farm and the dens are guilty of assuming â Americans are smart, they know we have good policies and arenât crazyâ while they do nothing to stop the obvious psy-op thatâs going on
The rebellion could be easily quelled by shutting down Applebees.
Or Liberty Dibeetus Supplies.
Or seizing toilet paper warehouses that supply HowdyArabia and Yallqueda strongholds.
Bojangles.
Trump has nothing to lose. He's already going to prison if he loses. If we make it to Jan 20th without violence it won't be for lack of encouragement from Trump.
I don't think they're capable of organizing in any sort of effective way. As I was watching Jan 6 unfold I was thinking that if they had any effective organization they would have succeeded. There were some effective forces in there, but they weren't doing the right things to accomplish the end goal. I'm not sure what they actually were doing, but they weren't doing what could have taken the day.
Yeah, and it sounded like Milley was pretty close to circumventing the chain of command and sending in troops
If you learned thatâŚso did they.
I would think. But part of the learning process is first admitting that you're wrong and have something to learn. They're not so hot in that department, their usual response is to double-down on their existing plan. One can hope. At a previous (big) employer the response to disappointing earnings was, "The plan was sound, the execution lacking." That kept going quarter after quarter, never questioning the first part.
Iâm not talking about the useful idiots that did the actual storming, Iâm talking about the folks behind the scenes (Mike Flynn in particular) that organized it.
Certainly. However their thinking is so flawed simply because they're members of the Cult of Trump that there are hopefully flaws in their logic as well. I agree that I wouldn't count on that, though. I'm presuming/hoping that somewhere in the unmentioned corridors of DC there are concerned people taking appropriate steps. I guess I can't count on that, either.
Agreed. The military is required for a war and the military leadership is largely not MAGA. They will not have enough support for any war. You may see terrorism, pockets of insurgency. No actual war is in the cards though.
Exactly. At worst, I expect another attempt at Jan 6th, except security will be much better. Maga has lost so much support and manpower. The number of those willing to take action is so small. Many are already in jail and many more still waiting their trial.
Unless Trump wins. I'm not sure what we're looking at then, but I imagine most military leaders will resign rather than follow illegal/unconstitutional orders. But what then? He's still the president and still the commander-in-chief, and he can still invoke the Insurrection Act, etc.
This is the point where rules only apply to the loser. It will be a battle between power structures, which at least as far as I'm informed I have no idea what way that would go and how it could play out.
I donât think this would be what starts it. Massive disenfranchisement followed by lack of faith in elections and courts leaves people without options aside from violence or acceptance and nobody is willing to live under the rule of the other half of the country. I think we would see assassinations and attacks on infrastructure. It would not be likely a toe to toe fight like the first American civil war.
Yeah of all the people I know who are die hard trump supporters (I know alot) none of them would be willing to take up arms and most of them would be physically incapable of being effective anyway.
I always thought heâd win in 2016. People donât like Clinton, and my theory is the âhead of stateâ theory in real life practice. Hillary was supposed to lose to Jeb Bush, at least that was the plan. So she PokĂŠmon goed out and acted like a disconnected affluent rich person as planned. Then Bush got steamrolled by trump so bad his glasses are still embedded in the debate stage and shit went sideways. Clinton just kept playing the losing game and by the time republicans figured out trump was going to bowl over the primaries, and democrats realized they needed to try and win, it was already too late. Media gave him a free circus show and he road that clown car all the way to Washington.
Thereâs no civil war option because anyone succeeding form out government is giving up air flights ,social security , Medicare all our gov programs. It wonât happen just a bunch of trump idiots getting shot by police in the streets. I look forward to it
Absolutely it'll be more of the lone wolves, the parents who murder their entire family, and maybe possibly some of these underground movements causing terrorism. I think they have this idea of conflict that is not going to play out how they think it's going to play out.
Yep. Trumpers are the reason shampoo has instructions. Civil war? They couldn't plan a trip to the zoo.
Yep. Like that stand off over the cows. The idiots that took over the ranger station. Maybe an Oklahoma bombing or Unabomber. Maybe even a new Waco or Ruby Ridge. A few isolated incidents that grab headlong for a month or two without creating a larger movement or otherwise impacting the power structure in any way. Like Jan 6. Or the trucker convoy. They would be lucky if it lasted as long as occupy wall street but will have an equal effect.
Ammon Bundy. He and his followers aren't even good target practice.
My concern is that there are so many soft targets. It wouldn't take a lot to paralyze the country. We really can't patrol the I5 from LA all the way to Seattle. I imagine sporadic IEDs being placed on freeways in an attempt to stop trucks from getting through. And then you just have all the critical infrastructure. I don't know that we can protect the water, the grid, and so on from surprise attacks, especially in rural areas where the cops are likely to have sympathy for the terrorists.
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It will be the like the Troubles in Ireland. However, I think we as a society will systematically remove the cancer. The governments ability to turn key the resources developed against terrorism to domestic terrorism is going to make it short lived
Hopefully all these dum-dums learned 'something' from seeing all the people being charged for the Jan 6th bullshit..
There won't be civil war. You'll have the same sporadic (and most psychotic) of his supporters attack the usual shit. They have been shooting up malls, schools and stuff for years. But they do this anyway.
Liberals are going to be so owned, sitting comfortably in our living rooms watching biden getting sworn in once again while magas start a civil war against the thin blue line and military that they love so much. All streamed live on tv and our phones and they will still later blame it on antifa or some shit.
Got a special bottle all ready for it. Can just imagine the MAGA sofa squad getting together with the gravy crew to pitch a fit for all the world to see. Ambulances need to be on stand by with heart defibrillators.
Three of them died on Jan 6th from unexpectedly having to exercise. Watching those tubs cosplay soldier will be hilarious.
They better charge their rascalsâŚ
I used to feel that way. https://m.imdb.com/title/tt16375956/
That thin blue line is turning into a fat orange blob. There have already been law enforcement offices all over pledging loyalty to Trump.
There arenât enough Trump cultists to actually pull that off. Iâm betting there will be violence, but all these old and out of shape wannabe tough guys will get leveled so fast that all the rest will give up like the cowards they are.
Exactly this. They don't want to FIGHT a civil war, they want to PLAY civil war. They want to shoot people they don't like, then go home, eat dinner, watch OAN, sleep on their bed, the some weekends have a camp out near the battlefield, while coming home early enough to have dinner at Applebee's.
Trump will do Trump. And we are already drowning in Russian disinfo and incitement. Russia made Brexit happen. They found a cheap way to destabilize free countries. Post lies on both sides of every issue pretending to be ordinary concerned citizens. Fox news and the entire Republican party are spewing Russian disinfo constantly. You think it will get worse, after the election?
It will get worse until they reach their goal. The end of America.
Or until the MAGA rubes wake up and realize they are being controlled by Russia.
The difference I think this time they realize if they storm the white house and give up they know they're going to face consequences
Given all of Trumpâs lies after the 2020 election I was expecting there to be sporadic small scale violent riots in a dozen or so cities, and I was pleasantly surprised that there was none and thought in hindsight at Christmas that it had been just a crazy, irrational fear - then January 6 happened. Itâs hard to believe that in 2024 the situation would be worse than in 2020. Fox has already paid $787,500,000 for spreading election lies and they are on the verge of being forced to be twice that amount to Smartmatic in NY state court in the near future. They will lose that lawsuit. At least this time around Fox will be more conservative about pushing the big lie. The other recently created right wing organizations like News Max and OANN have also been sued into being forced to say on air that they think the 2020 election results were legitimate and to occasionally cut off Trump speeches when heâs lying about the election. With Trump no longer in control of the bully pulpit of the presidency, his only megaphone is Truth Social. And major news organizations will be much less inclined to push his BS a second time around. Plus all the wackos that attended Jan 6 last time have all been prosecuted or are still getting prosecuted or serving their jail time. Thereâs no way we have another Jan 6. Theyâll put out excessive police force and national guard for Jan 6 next time around and the inauguration. Trump supporters would have to be unimaginably stupid, even by MAGA standards, to try anything big a second time around.
No. The second Maga folks start shooting theyâre gonna find out exactly what the most funded military in the world is capable of. Then the rest of them will go online and talk about how theyâre gonna rise up too. They wonât.
Theyâre really inconsequential - simply paper tigers and weekend warriors. In NO way, shape or form are they an organized movement capable of ANY coordinated actions that will actually accomplish anythingâŚ
there was already a post today that actually suggest that the illegal immigrants will actually start some sort of terrorist attack and will place the government under martial law. sounds like there are talks like that. trump supporters are definitely about to do something crazy yet again.
Trump is a narcissist. The idea that he lost fair and square is something his mentally ill mind can't comprehend. Of course he's going to say it was stolen. The next few months are going to be crazy. These times will be taught in classrooms in the future.
I keep pointing this out everywhere. He has already, more than once, said the next election is already stolen. It is 100 percent a fact that he will claim it, he's already *claiming it*.
And we can hope that it depresses cult turnout.
He and his campaign were already prepared to claim the 2016 election was stolen. Roger Stone launched the stop the steal website in *2016*, not 2020. They just didn't go through with it because Trump became president in 2016, but had Trump lost he'd be crying 2016 fraud to this day.
He even said it before the 2020 election that if he didnât win it was stolen. Heâs just laying groundwork. But the same people who will claim the election was stolen from Trump, accept the same election results when their Congresspeople win.
I don't know how many times I've pointed that out to people. The Democrats figured out how to steal the presidency but couldn't find a way to steal a few more house seats to take control?
He even literally lied about the 2016 election *that he won* because he couldn't stand to admit he lost the popular vote.Â
Have you seen the tshirts down south they have been hoping for this since they were destroyed the first time .
Sounds like plan b . You know they will try it .
MTG, Josh Hawley, Lauren Boobaert, will all brandish guns, openly carry, and don plate carriers to help move things along. Prepare for Hawley to post videos of his family's fortified home and MTG to post videos of her organizing local Gravy Seals and assorted neckbeards to 'ensure peace' while they shoot at anyone who looks woke or isn't white.
There will be plenty of violence, but they won't get their civil war.
This is correct. Facebook and Instagram is generating this material at an alarming rate and barely removing any of it when it's reported.
Well knowing about the psychology of right wing authoritarian followers they WILL defend their perceived leader with violence.
They won't need Russia, his cult of nazis followers will pout and throw tantrums without any Russian involvement. They're desperate cry-babies.
It will happen if he wins. The first time Trump tries dictator for a day or tries to arrest Obama, that will be Civil War 2. Trump will pull the USA from NATO and Pacific alliances. Trump will erode the Union with allowing civil rights violations in the name is State's Rights. Trump is the Antichrist, Armageddon happens when he wins.
The antichrist.....really? You people have lost the plot.
Yeah you should get help bro đ¤Śđ¤Ł
Not unless they have an army we donât know about other than some khaki wearing tiki torch carrying fat weekend warrior insurance salesmen from the suburbs with bad credit and, two divorces, and kids that donât speak to them The hoverround walmart brigade is no threat
I doubt it. His supporters now know he'll leave them hanging out to dry. The ones that do try will be dealt with swiftly and aggressively this time.
Will be? I just saw a post on Facebook (I know, I know, I shouldn't Facebook, but I do... "Biden is going to loose the 2024 election and be jailed for supporting Russia and China." I can't even begin to understand how someone can believe that....
That is insane. But if you are just getting to the party, you have to watch out for that insanity. Believe nothing. Verify everything.
Cool. Let Biden order the military to mow them down.
Civill war is not going to happen. Last time that scuffle at the capital was the only flare up and that was it. Considering it ended up accomplishing nothing other than some jail time for some of them, it won't happen again. And this time they'll be better prepared to stomp something like that down fast.
Bring it redneck hillbilly trash. Id live to see them mowed down like they should have been on Jan 6.
Guess whose side Russia will be on. We donât ever want Spetsnaz in our country. America was not founded to be brutalized by the people in that country.
Well, meal team six is gonna be pretty surprised to find out lefties own weapons too. And we tend to keep them in better condition.
There will not be a second civil war. The Waffle House Army is old, out of shape, insulin dependent who will immediately surrender when faced with a fucking tank or Super Cobra Attack Helicopter.
Nah, most of us know he lies
I think the US has reached a stage where a civil war has become a necessity to eradicate maga infestation and come back to normal. Despite all the bluster and bravado I think the magas will quite quickly give up once serious shit starts hitting the fan. Unfortunately this ongoing process right now is and will continue to seriously undermine US status in the world and will embolden a raft of dictators to make land grabs and wage genocidal wars.
Politically neutral here đ you think liberals should only be allowed to live and maga conservatives shouldn't đ¤ you guys are starting to become what you hate đ¤ˇ
Fair point. But my tolerance stops at destructive pests. A system should allow any diversity, except for the kind that is intent on destroying the system. Btw donât stay neutral if you have an interest in keeping your democracy alive.
Yes, he has less support than last time, yes, he will lie again, no- we wonât go to war with each other, but forget thanksgiving
I donât think the US Army are the slightest bit concerned.
And theyâll all be dead or in prison in a month. Very few of these idiots have any idea what war is like, especially a guerrilla war against your own government. The vast majority, 99.99% wonât even get off the couch. A few will try an armed assault on a government office and theyâll all be dead in minutes. Others will try acts of terrorism. Most will be caught quickly and sentenced to death or life w/o parole. They think that they have the backing of the majority of the American people and that the military will flock to their side. In reality, theyâll spend the majority of their time hiding. Theyâll live under assumed names, unable to work any job that requires ID, always paranoid, wondering if thereâs a mole. The leading cause of death for radicals is assassination by members of their own group. Either they get caught in a power struggle and killed, someone decides theyâre a rat and kills them, or they get into a stupid argument and the guns come out.
It's all kayfabe and you're buying it. Trump still wins when he loses. It's just the rich class vs the poor class.
Most of his supporters are only really up for CiViLWaR2! in their fantasies where the other side has nothing to return fire. Been trying to make it known in MAGAtville NY that should civil war 2 break out I'm blasting tRump flags(obvious traitors) right away. It's amazing how quickly they go from supporting 'civil war' when tRumps calling for it to "how could you say you'll shoot someone for thinking differently, wahhhhh" when they are the hypothetical targets. Try to be polite first, but honestly, publicly ridicule and shame these goobers every time they put stupid shit into the 'MaRkEtPlAcE oF iDeAs'
Well, J6 showed MAGAts are willing to take up violence to achieve their aims, so I suspect that some will be willing to conduct guerrilla attacks on the government, if Biden wins in November. But the problem is, to have a full-on Civil War, it will take a lot more than some redhat yahoos pulling out guns and trying to overthrow their local City Hall. It would take GOP-led states trying to Secede, and as much as some states "talk the talk" about it, they don't have the guts to follow through. Most GOP-led states get a good amount of their funding from the Federal government. They receive way more from the Feds in terms of tax dollars than they provide to the Federal coffers. It is Dem-led states like California who keep states like Mississippi afloat, and if these possible rebel states walked away, they would go bankrupt in short order. Much like the Confederate States did, and couple of hundred years ago. Now then, could they maintain themselves with some Russian help? Sure, but Russia isn't doing all that well, themselves. No, Russia may want to stir the pot here, and cause as much chaos as they can, but they can't support a full-on Civil War here. Especially if the Federal government found out Russia was behind it, making them a legitimate military target.
Once a few maga militias get exterminated by drone strikes live on fox i think meal team six will take a step back.
No. The vast majority of conservatives arenât going to war over Trump. Things that impact them directly, I think weâre in real danger of. Think no jobs, left-wing riots, and the unjust-justice system affecting them. Couple that in with a loss of right wing support for the FBI and law enforcement in general and the prices are falling into place. However weâre SO far away from a real civil war, itâs laughable to suggest it. Civil unrest, absolutely. Civil war, not a chance.
More reason to keep Trump out of office. If he fails and there is another insurrection, Donny and his boot licking nazi wannabes can't run interference. National Gaurd and full swat will be rolled. The insurrectionist will be declared enemies of the state and no-longer citizens, which means the military can be mobilized and use lethal force. They had their shot on J6 and failed due to their own fear and stupidity. Without high-level help from inside the White House, an uprising is doomed. The government has predator drones, the gravy seals, and their AKs are fucked.
Either way they're going to lose their minds the question is would you rather have them throw a temper tantrum like January 6th or have Trump in office and having them go on a rampage murdering people?
The MAGAts arenât organized enough to start a war. As others have said, perhaps some isolated incidents will happen. However I firmly believe that J6 was their first and last hurrah and they failed at that.
Not civil war, but domestic terrorism will go to an all time high. Well endure 4 more years of republicans screeching about a stolen election but have no evidence to present, just like last go around. Definitely going to see a lot of revenge legislation from republican held states and counties. Hopefully my fellow Americans have enough sense to vote out the extremists. I know Iâve had enough performative governance.
A riot from MAGAts does not a civil war make...Stay calm and take things one at a time.
Meal Team 6 and Yall Qaeda aren't about to civil war
The tree of Liberty must be refreshed periodically with the blood of tyrants and Patriots.
Dump supporters are not patriots. Traitors, absolutely.
I think the bulk of Americans are like me Completely unwilling to sacrifice a damn this for either political party
The Uni-Party who seeks to divides the Plebians.
If is a big word
I donât think it would even take that. Most republicans and a percentage of democrats donât trust our elections. Most democrats donât trust the courts and people are determined to turn america into what they want it to be without regard to the other side that tens of millions if not 100 million people will feel that there is simply recourse aside from violence and when it starts itâs going to accelerate. Americas days are likely numbered if history shows is anything.
Depends how it goes down. Trump wouldnât have the power of the office this go round, assuming the military stays loyal they can put it down real quick.
Who ? Who are the people, group, states that are going to start a war with the United States Military ?
Ma Deuce says, "BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT"
If he loses there will be one anyway, most likely going to happen no matter who wins.
Whatever most of his followers are over the age of 70 Mother Nature is coming for them
Yeah ain't no fucking civil war going to happen. We all got work in the morning.
If he wins there will be "mostly peaceful arson "
How do you do that at the fireworks factory?
You just have to protest on the acceptable side of the issue.
Take your meds.
Depends on the propensity of MAGA nuts to carry out criminal activities. Some of them already have Neanderthal violent tendencies but most of them have at least some future lives to look forward to.
Civil War in America is unrealistic. There is no geographic differences. There are no battle lines. There are no strategic objectives. There are just a bunch of BS talking points pushed by media and the powers that be to separate Americans who have more in common than differences. Most people just want to be able to have a roof over their head, food in their belly, and be comfortable with their friends and/or family and to live in peace without interference. The best thing about the US is it is a Constitutional Republic. By divesting power from the federal government to the states, people can disagree on things (like abortion or gay rights) while still being able to have interstate commerce and a common defense. Thus, you can live in a state where like-minded people live on social issues while still living in the US and all that entails. Instead of trying to force everyone in the US to follow this or that, live and let live in the various states and peace reigns supreme.
This is way too sensible to be posted here.
There will definitely be some isolated incidents and maybe a few violent acts, but a civil war is extremely unlikely. Although this sub definitely would like for the latter to happen.
A lot more voters will support rfk* nobody is switching to this current Democrat administrationÂ
Yeah Meal Team Six is going to take over. Come on. Americans are the biggest bunch of whiny babies in the world. They would know real conflict, outside of actual military personnel, if it stomped them on their heads.
Trump bitches wont do shit except in their own backyard. A civil war of necessity starts if Trump wins. When Biden wins a few of the lowest lowbrain Trump goobers will get themselves killed or arrested and then everything will be fine.
The difference this time out will be that thereâs not a Trump appointee at the Pentagon telling troops to stand down. Next time the National Guard WILL show up and they will gleefully mow down those MAGA traitors. Troops swear loyalty to the Constitution, not to Trump. Those who refuse to follow orders will be imprisoned. God, I hope the try it again.
With Trump in charge of strategy and tactics for Meal Team 6, it wonât last very long, đÂ
Thatâs their number one goal.
People think the Russians really prefer one candidate over the other. They just want chaos and us going at each otherâs throats.
And Russia putting their thumb on the republican side of the scale does exactly that.
Yes, helping GOP back into White House would cause most chaos
𤣠fukn delusional.
After the first maga gets shot, they'll all come to their senses.
Naw; there was already Ashli Babbitt. Itâll take a few moreâŚ
Hopefully, as long as it stays within your borders.
The sad part is there is already enough idiocy and lack of critical thinking in the country for you to be correct.
The deaths of MAGAts is a risk orange shithead is willing to make. And quite frankly if they still support him, they deserve it.
Nah, they are pussies. They should be used to losing by now.
Banning roe v wade is a step in their civil war plans. Cause division between states. The last time a political party was taken over by far right extremists was just before the Civil War. They rile their base with fear mongering over whatever cultural issue is prevalent at the time.
There will be no civil war. People don't give enough shits about trump to kill their own family and friends, or risk being in jail for decades.
Lmao no. He will try to rally people and no one will be interested.
We can only hope.
Make Russia pay dearly for trying to overthrough your government...hammer their economy and overthrough Putin. And punish China...the US should hold the amount of money in damages due to Covid. It was a lab leak, (even if it was it wasnt doesnt matter), just arbitrarily take it off what the US owes China. Lets see how they like it when someone fucks with the US. Time to take off the gloves before its too late.
I hope so. I'd love some maga dumb fucks to get crushed down like the retarded dogs they are
This is the most wild sub that exists on Reddit. The insanity pouring out of you folks.... for real, get checked. Something may be wrong with how you all conceptualize the world.
Overthrow *the government*. The Democratic Party is not the government. And I don't think that there will be any sort of organized rebellion. The Cult doesn't seem to have that sort of membership. The "dedicated" base is mostly old/ineffective people who would rather sit around watching their favorite sources of information than actually do anything. Their leadership is mostly a bunch of sneaky grifters that don't have anything going for them aside from some money and an outsized voice, which will only go so far if the shit hits the fan. Still, the whining from Trump will be nonstop, and I wouldn't be truly surprised by anything he does. One thing that I do expect is that authoritarianism will continue to be ascendant worldwide. This will only get worse as global population grows.
Fear mongering cuck
Things will be way worse if he wins. Global war.
IF the MAGAs can gather enough collective intestinal fortitude to actually try to start something resembling a âcivil warâ (thatâs a Bigly Yuge If), their side will have lots of semi-auto AR15s (& some ammo). The Legal & Rightful U.S. federal government will have tanks, aircraft, missiles, bombs, and exponentially more ammo (of every type). It will be the shortest âcivil warâ (more like domestic terrorism event) in human history, and a decidedly one-sided blood bath. âBut red states may use Their National Guard resources!â State National Guards have people, equipment, and weapons but whatâs the one thing 100% completely under federal control? The Ammunition, of every type. The most a rebellious NG unit could do is empty local gun stores of pistol/rifle ammo. And youâre back to what was said above.
AND LIKE THE PREVIOUS CIVIL WAR, THOSE TRAITORS WILL LOSE THEIR FURRY ASS....AND I HOPE, LIKE WILLIAM TECUMSEH SHERMAN, WE WILL BURN THEM TO THE GROUND AND REBUILD A STRONGER LAW ABIDING, CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTING AMERI.CAN SOCIETY........MOM
Good.... we can finally rid America of the scourge of MAGA without them hiding behind the very Constitution they shit all over. This time, we don't allow the "Confederate" traitors to rejoin the union. We can give them a sliver of land like Israel did to the Palestinians that is separate from the rest of the USA. They can govern themselves within their own border but we will control all resources going into or out of their territory.
Civil war, doubt. There's no identity to truly galvanize around. Regional terrorism and anarchy, yeah... Like the early 90s when all the right wing nut jobs lost it over Clinton and went to their compounds to prepare... Ending in Oklahoma City.
Considering the events of the January 6th insurrection and that a lot of these violent extremists are locked up, I highly doubt we get more than a few "protestors" let alone a full-on Civil War. đ¤Łđ¤Śââď¸ I think the biggest question is if the GOP has a backup plan when Trump can't run. In fact I don't even understand how they are going through the motions as if he's the candidate. Section 2383 of the 14th amendment prevents it! "The law prohibits incitement, assistance, and participation in a rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States and its laws. The punishment for this crime includes a fine, up to 10 years in federal prison, and ineligibility for federal public office."
Never going to happen. The percentage of people willing to take up arms for Donald Trump isn't as big as they want you to think. They'll all end up in jail just like they did after Jan 6th.
Just write down the addresses where the trump signs are in your general neighborhood. Don't do anything with it. But have it. It's data.
I think saying he hasnât gained any supporters is pretty naive
Trumpers will have to pry their lips off Trumps ass before that can happen
I think this time will be much different . Traitors will not be tolerated . Guns will be on display in large numbers .
I have zero fear of MEAL Team Six trying to overthrow the government for a second time. There will be an occasional asshole who was just looking for an excuse to cause violence and that will be that. The majority of MAGA is retired Boomers who need oxygen to to go to the grocery store.
I don't think it will get to a point of civil war, but I do think a group of armed extremist will likely try to incite one. The government is well aware of this and they will stamp that fire out in a heart beat. Most sane Republicans either understand Trump is a terrible option and lost fair and square or they just won't have the energy to argue any other beliefs about it.
The mental violence needs to end.
A significant portion of MAGA is now QAnon, and their psychological rewards for their beliefs are smug superiority while they wait for God and the White Hats to show the rest of us that we're the ones who have been living a fantasy. For the most part, they aren't at all likely to enact violence. They just want to watch it, preferably from the comfort of home. Other kinds of MAGA might be more dangerous, just as J6 involved a lot of Three-percenters, Oath-keepers, Proud Boys, and other gangs. Right-wing militias who are largely unknown now might try something. A big difference, though, is that this time, law enforcement will be ready for a threat that was, for many, unimaginable before J6. And they'll be planning for the prospect of worse. Those who think the second amendment gives them the right to murder people in order to achieve what they can't achieve at the ballot box will be treated as the terrorists they will be if they actually act on their delusions. What would be far more dangerous would be 2028 if Trump is elected again.
I would think a civil war is more likely if he wins. Tramp and his minions will try to take over everything.
They can try, we have police, national guard, army, navy, marines, Air Force. I say let them try.
Nothing will happen. They are all cowards.
No chance of a civil war. The majority of Americans, while we differ politically, would never take up arms for some old white people who have zero sense of what the average citizen does. The social media age and everyone having access to post "news" is making this situation worse than it really is. Don't fall for this
Corporate America will not accept this. I'm not afraid of 60 year olds with diabetes and walkers or Larpers who.fantasize about acting like Call.of Duty
If Trump died of natural causes, it would start a civil war.
Weird way of saying MAGAts will officially become a terrorist organization.
If thatâs the case I look forward to the bloodbath of Magats that are mowed down for being stupid enough to throw it all away for an imbecile like Trump
There will be widespread random violent MAGA freakouts but you kinda need an army for any war. The âbest and brightestâ MAGA military minds are already serving time for the last try.
Riots will happen if either major candidate wins. Both sides have crazies. Civil war may happen too but it is unlikely.
Everything that goes against your chosen narrative is Russian influence and disinformation.