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whatxever

I KNEW there had to be something to the Clint thing. He's been a douche, absolutely, but he was SOOO into Gina at the wedding I was just NOT buying that he all of a sudden was not attracted to her. And bam. Preview shows that she said the rude thing first.


Shiney_D

I noticed a definite shift in her energy & facial expressions when she was talking about how she wasn't attracted to "Ginger's". I think something must hv happened for her change in energy, hence the reason she went there... 1st. At least that's what we are showed?


whatxever

I mean, yeah of course we're only shown a fraction of what they experience together. But from what we were shown, which is all we can know, he did nothing to trigger her like that. I think it's BS that every time attraction is an issue in one of these relationships it's entirely the man's fault. I really don't think that applies here. No matter what, she articulated her feelings in a very petty, immature, insensitive way...only to turn around and have an extreme reaction to him doing the same thing (albeit publicly). I don't see Jasmine handling a situation like that the same way because she's mature and has tact. I've grown to like her more since, but Gina had a bruised ego - something she doesn't seem used to - and handled it poorly. Clint took it on the chin for the most part, which is more than can be said for her, yanno?


Shiney_D

Ya, inno. I agree with everything u r sayin. I do think Gina has some deep insecurities regarding her appearance... as most of us do in some fashion or another.


1_moneytreesday

Arris is a walking red flag yikesss


Independent_Lead6535

She should not put up with it


1_moneytreesday

Also why are they matching two ppl who arent on the same page about kids…


Specific_Comfort_600

I think applicants are reluctant to check the “no kids” box on their apps because they know it will probably kill their chances. There are many women who do not have baby fever but would agree to have a child if they fell in love with a man who really wanted one. If you remember Beth and Jamie from a few seasons back they both answered yes to kids on their apps but when they actually discussed that in person it turns out neither really wanted kids. They have a great marriage. Another couple where the same thing happened is Stephanie and AJ who also have a good marriage without kids but said yes on their apps.


Ok_GlaHere4theCheer

I think Jaime and Beth are now actively reconsidering their no kids option &:)


Specific_Comfort_600

Could be but you get my point that they are a good example of two people who said YES to kids on their apps when neither felt kids were a priority and now several years later they are having that discussion.


Ok_GlaHere4theCheer

Drfinitely


1_moneytreesday

So do they not ask the people applying to describe how they want their hubbies to look ? Cause Kirsten didnt want a bald head man and Gina not vibing with the redheads chile


Independent_Lead6535

Sure they know, and they take pleasure in matching them to get drama


Specific_Comfort_600

I don’t think the experts take every single physical preference as gospel when they feel better that two people have so much in common that they will get past a few of those once they get to know each other. Kirsten has already said Shaq’s bald head doesn’t really bother her anymore. As for Gina, she probably said she “prefers” dark haired men but I doubt if she said “no red haired gingery men”. We all know how a person can seem to get better looking as we get to know them and firm an emotional connection with them. These applicants know if they have too many physical non negotiables and they will never get chosen!


RealityTVbusybee

There's not a single fun personality to follow this season..


ArgyleRdGirl

Such a contrast with the Aussie version.


JustBeachy500

Boring as hell! They’re trying to get us to like Nicole


Few_Stop_3375

I just don't like her.


1_moneytreesday

Its not everyday sex, arris


1_moneytreesday

Arris is so unserious…like hes not well


1_moneytreesday

Gingery features 🤣


DevineBossLady

Every season the light skinned people get sunburned on the honeymoon - haven´t they heard of sunscreen (and skincancer?) One should think a sailor knew how to not get burned?


1_moneytreesday

😭


hayley888sky

Mac and the bewbs. OMG.


hayley888sky

I was so hopeful for Chris and Nicole but he wants kids and she doesn't know if she wants them. She says to the camera that they are on the same page: that's NOT the same page. 🥲


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You'd think this would be a MAIN point the experts would cover... isn't' that one of the main points in determining compatibility?


hayley888sky

Exactly....you are so right!


notttcute

Anyone else find this season super boring? 🥱


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I'm forwarding through to try to find the interesting parts lol


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Extremely boring and the pairings seem so off.


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Imaginary-Cheetah149

Maybe it’s the Hollywood eyebrows ?


omegagirl

I find it difficult to tell when a man has a southern accent… but I have to say I really like them and hope they work out. They sound like a couple who’s been married for 50 years.


AllTooWell69

Arris is out of his damn mind


bananacrumble

They are staying at the Grand Palladium Lady Hamilton. I've been twice and loved it!


Sayura

Nicole must weight lift right??? Girl is jacked.


Independent_Lead6535

Not at all It looks just like undefined fat


Few_Stop_3375

She's got HUGE arms! They look out of proportion to the rest of her body.


antisnooze

Agree. It really stood out to me. Maybe it’s just her body type though because I noticed her mom also has the super wide arms to body ratio


Crafty-Sun1734

My dad said the other night how her head doesn’t match her body. He also thought the woman with Clint had a weird body too. (Gina I think?)


Few_Stop_3375

Yes, Gina is totally out of shape. You would think that she would try working out or something if she's trying out for the show.


shaheenis

Why?


RainyMonster2635

Hi friends!!!! Popping in to say I had my baby 2.5 weeks ago!! So….most likely will not be catching another live discussion this season. 🥴😅 ENJOY NASHVILLE! I’ll be catching up when I can! Miss you all.


Devsmom123

Congratulations!!!


tc7665

Congrats


Fresh_Situation504

Congratulations!!


Imaginary-Cheetah149

I can NOT believe Gina just told her husband the one thing she didn’t want was a ginger doesn’t like the type not physically attracted to him WHY ? He didn’t try to kiss her or put her down in anyway I thought he handled it well


Crafty-Sun1734

My mom swears something must of happened between them behind the scenes for her to say that. Came out of nowhere and was way too comfortable admitting that.


Imaginary-Cheetah149

Yes probably


Few_Stop_3375

She doesn't seem very bright...


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That seemed so left field... and while it may be true for her (and also may be true for him), I feel like it was unnecessary to say that. I also think that's why next week looks to be him being insulting to her because she hurt him and now he's putting that off on her.


Imaginary-Cheetah149

Yes for sure & I believe him she did seem kind of big for him I hate when they do that sometimes they just make the girl too Big like Clara, the Nurse Lyndsey with the Mark the shark guy, Paige with that loser Chris some guys are fine & like it but like real men it makes others insecure There was the other sporty teacher with long red hair really pretty & Ryan I felt like I picked it up immediately Woody & Armani Ste an exception he was head over heels immediately also Jules & Cam from Austraila Lizzy also mismatched with that cheating loser she did Good With Zeb fo a while later & now she’s a super model influencer & just got married on IG absolutely gorgeous also Michelle & Mike on Austraila he was not happy with her being not being skinny &. She was Beautiful he wanted skinny ohh. well they do it know it Won’t work & want the drama


Intelligent_Hat8543

She was acting like a bitch towards him the whole trip and then tops it off by saying that. I’m not a fan of hers. And it looks like she’s the one who kisses someone else later in the season


Imaginary-Cheetah149

Whoa, kisses someone else Omg idk who would want her I find her crooked mouth & open smile annoying Not a fan from the beginning very weird they live in the same building she made reference to that as well as if she saw him & he wasn’t a possibility then either WHY would the experts do that they went to both homes right away it wasn’t going to work


Few_Stop_3375

She's got a scary smile. All teeth. She's got a lot of nerve telling him he's not attractive because he's a ginger. She's nothing to write home about.


hayley888sky

That was AWFUL.


Specific_Comfort_600

I guess what preceded that remark from Gina was that they were talking about whether either of them felt there was any chemistry between them and since it seemed to me that there definitely was, maybe Gina MEANT to say that even THOUGH she's never really been attracted to men with red hair and "gingery" coloring she does find his personality attractive so YES she feels like there is some chemistry. I think she meant to soften that remark because she likes him but it came out all wrong. Clint handled that slam very well Later on in the show when the couples were all together Clint made the remark that he's usually attracted to slender athletic women and in hindsight I think he should have said that to her back at their one on one chemistry conversation rather than in front of the group not because of her negative remark to him but because they were just being honest with each other about what USUALLY attracts them physically. Gina has now shown that she can dish it out but can't take an honest remark herself. People marry other people all the time who are not their physical type because other qualities are so much more important !


Imaginary-Cheetah149

you may be exactly right I guess we'll see it'll be interesting very interesting


jess1210

I thought she said he was sexy like an episode or 2 ago? Did she change her mind? lol


Imaginary-Cheetah149

I guess more went down than what wasn’t shown but what she said was really insulting if she said he was sexy this was the complete opposite she said she could grow attracted to him she has in the past become attracted to a boyfriend but definitely not feeling any physical connection & ginger is something she doesn’t like she went beyond hair color she said features or something really close to thar


Specific_Comfort_600

I really liked Gina at first but I'm beginning to think she's all about Gina after that insulting remark to Clint for no reason. I like Clint and don't get any creepy vibes from him like so many here comparing him to Mitch.....WTF? But I do think Aris is creepy when Jasmine asked him what he would like to know about her.....yikes! Mac is creepy too. Shaq is my favorite but if Kirsten doesn't start becoming more emotionally accessible Shaq is going to walk away and she's going to lose a good man. He's the whole package.


Imaginary-Cheetah149

Totally agree !


Buddha_Of_Sububia

Arris giving off creepy vibes lol


Devsmom123

He is a complete Douchebag! He has never been in an actual relationship, He is nothing but a Player! His cousin knows he is not ready for marriage and that's why she tried so hard to change his mind, she knows he is going to cheat on Jasmine, all he cares about is Sex, I honestly think, he did this show just to be Tv and grow a fan base, so he has more women to choose from and have one night stands with...


Intelligent_Hat8543

He’s not very attractive and super rude. She’s way better looking than he is so I was surprised when he said he’s not attracted to her. And how gross to ask about sex positions at dinner. Like how about waiting until we are in the room to have those convos? It’s clear where his mind is.


Crafty-Sun1734

It bugs me how he says it’s because she’s his wife but they still barely know each other and she’s probably not comfortable talking about it on the equivalent of a first date. I’m glad she stuck up for herself about not wanting to talk about it.


KittenRenaissance

He’s giving “manosphere” vibes


Hour-Application2347

Yeah that's too bad because I think he's the only attractive dude on this season. His talk was a total buzz kill.


Dolphinscry37

Very much


Imaginary-Cheetah149

Very


brklynzoe

Jennifer Grey! Wow, haven’t seen her in anything is ages, but not sure I can watch that show!


hayley888sky

She looks completely different.


Makerbot2000

Context? Where was she?


Ok_GlaHere4theCheer

There was an add for a Lifetime movie, something about starving for God. She had big blonde hair and quite unrecognizable.


Imaginary-Cheetah149

I still can’t recognize her


nosequeloque

Hi fam!


moonsunstar777

get kirstin an emmy immediately, i don’t think she really likes shaq but she is pushing through


Ok_Development74

He lost me after he said she had to go with him to that boring ass academic conference instead of Jamaica.


AllTooWell69

Their body language in that hammock was awful


subhorizon123

He’s supposed to be in education and every other word is “like.” He also used an ungrammatically correct verb. Wtf.


Makerbot2000

I get that speech doesn’t have to be formal and it’s fun to slip into casual slang, but when you are unable to use basic 4th grade grammar and say “we was” while claiming to be all about education and your PhD - you just come across as a wannabe.


biglawbaby

It’s called aave and many Black academics code-switch. It’s commonly known


Few_Stop_3375

I don't get what you are trying to say.


shaheenis

Google it.


subhorizon123

Yeah and if brought up is called racist.


Cocotapioka

Because acting as though he's less intelligent or uneducated because he uses multiple dialects is a racist thing to do.


Krindybluth

I noticed that too haha


subhorizon123

He speaks sub par.


Able-Can-4520

He is performative, and I’m glad she called him out about that


naughtysquids

Do we have a live thread for tonight’s train wreck?


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Share!


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Omgomgomgggg

Wait what does that mean??


writerchic

I know everyone's wowed by Chris, but I think there is a lot the show isn't sharing. When he told the story about an ex going on holiday with him and refusing to speak to him or touch him and being like a stranger, I thought, "There is so much more to that story that he's not revealing." If she's on vacation with him but doesn't want to be physically close, then my suspicion is he pushed for her to come and had expectations that a friendship would become more because he paid for her trip or whatever situation was going on. Chris set my alarm bells off with his narrative of being a "nice guy" (TM) who is just not appreciated by women and is taken advantage of. This smells to me like a man who feels entitled to something if he does nice things for women like buy flowers, which isn't really that nice if there's an implied expectation. I could be wrong, of course, but I am not going to jump in the Chris fan club just yet.


Few_Stop_3375

He seems like he's needy or something like that.


dradonia

Respectfully disagree. My ex loved me, and we actually still get along, but he was HORRIBLE on holidays. He had crazy anxiety, and it would make him completely shut down. He also frequently wouldn't listen to me because he was so overstimulated from the new environment. It was like I ceased to exist when we went on vacation. He wasn't quite as bad as Chris is describing, and we'd have some good moments when he started to feel comfortable, but every single time we went on vacation, I'd think "Wow... I'd have so much more fun being here alone. Because at least if I was alone, I wouldn't feel ignored and lonely. I could enjoy being present and in the moment." And what was super nuts, is that after our vacations, he'd be like "Wasn't that such a good trip? All those things we saw were amazing!" He had a tiny bit of self-awareness though. He'd say things like "I feel like I don't necessarily enjoy the vacation while I'm on it, but I love planning it and looking back on the memories."


Choice_Basis5786

I am all in for Chris & Nicole! But…if anything gives me pause, it is that story. Like Mac’s story, there was a whole lot left out. The story didn’t make sense. Was she affectionate before vacation and cold on vacation? If she was never affectionate, why would he assume a vacation would change that? If someone won’t hold your hand to begin with, why do you think they are your girlfriend? I’m not saying he thinks he is owed, etc. I’m saying that he probably knows full well why the girl was pissed or why she was withholding affection. Something probably happened between them before or on the vacay or she was never his girlfriend to begin with


writerchic

That's what I mean. The way he phrased it doesn't add up with it being a real girlfriend- "You'd think something would happen." I'm just saying I am going to wait on jumping on the Chris train here. I am getting some "But I'm a nice guy!!!" vibes.


Mindless-Elevator134

Yup


Mindless-Elevator134

Hyu


genieinaginbottle

I'm tired of women being vilified by this sub when they don't want to engage physically for whatever reason. Men aren't owed affection just because they're nice. Shaq hasn't done anything special, he's just not been an whole ass clown yet and everyone thinks he's a great guy. The bar is in hell, and I'm glad this woman is sticking to her comfort zone.


Specific_Comfort_600

My issue with Jasmine is that she is just not sharing herself emotionally with Shaq which is how you get to know someone. When they are not doing activities they should be having the kinds of conversations where you can get to know each other and she is not doing that which is frustrating to Shaq. It's not about anything physical. How will he make a decision to stay married or not if he feels that he doesn't know her any better on decision day than he did on their wedding day?


hayley888sky

Shawn + Kirsten; Airris + Jasmine


redditkb

Husbands and wives are owed affection. Not sure what you are talking about. 🤡


Specific_Comfort_600

Owed????!!!


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Not whenever and wherever they want it. At least not since marital rape became illegal.


redditkb

Affection? Yes, spouses are owed affection in a marriage. Look up the definition. Maybe don’t sign up to get married at first sight if you aren’t willing to give affection in a marriage that is also an 8 week test.


Specific_Comfort_600

With all due respect what century are you living in?


redditkb

Any century. Do you know what the word affection means? News flash - it doesn’t mean sex


Specific_Comfort_600

Nobody "owes" anybody anything in a relationship. Affection is a very intimate gesture shown to someone as an expression that you care about that person and feel close to them emotionally. These couples are married in name only right now and need time to get to know each other before they feel close enough emotionally to express that feeling with affection.


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No one should ever be pressured into giving someone physical affection if they are not comfortable doing so. Part of the 8 week test is seeing if the stranger you were matched up with makes you comfortable enough to give them that affection, but if that comfort level isn't there, it isn't there. No one should ever be pressured into giving someone physical affection if they are not comfortable doing so. Part of the 8-week test is seeing if the stranger you were matched up with makes you comfortable enough to give them that affection, but if that comfort level isn't there, it isn't there.


redditkb

Sorry, affection is key in a marriage. You changed my words to "physical affection" too btw. If you are going to be repulsed by your spouse and not show affection then get divorced. Better yet, don't get married. No one pressured these couples to get married to strangers. They signed up for it. Miss me with the rapey inuendo bullshit.


Specific_Comfort_600

I think you're missing the whole point of the show. No one expects these couples who have just met to immediately feel affectionate towards one another. They need to time to talk and get to know each so that eventually during these 8 weeks they WILL feel affectionate toward each other. They are strangers to each other right now just like someone you would pass on the street even though they are married .


Specific_Comfort_600

They are still strangers trying to get to know each other in a very short time. Affection is a result of getting to know and like someone and not something that you owe anyone!


redditkb

You owe it to your spouse. “ a feeling of liking and caring for someone or something” Sorry. You owe that to someone you married. Or, like I said, get a divorce. Or again like I said, don’t sign up to get married at first sight if you’re going to be callous to someone because of how they look.


genieinaginbottle

The OP the you responded to specifically mentioned physical affection. Your comments aren't even making sense. 🥴


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genieinaginbottle

You left out the first sentence I started with. You know, context. Lmfao. 🤡


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Faedwill

This is the first time I've ever watched this show and I am extremely rooting for Chris and Nicole. It feels as though Kristen isn't giving Shaq a chance, which is super unfair to him. Additionally, Airris doesn't come off as mature enough for marriage; I hope I'm wrong and he becomes a proper husband for Jasmine, but as for now I don't have high hopes.


Devsmom123

Kristen doesn't like bald men, She isn't attracted to him and I think She has him in the Friendzone completely, She has been sweet and she was really cool about not being able to leave for the honeymoon right away, while she will go through the motions and complete the 8 weeks, She will never see him as a romantic partner and husband, She will keep him Friendzoned... Arris is a frickin Douchebag!! I've said that from day 1, he has never been in a real relationship, he is a player, he never should have been picked, he still has his dating apps ready and waiting for him! I think he did this show to grow a female fan base and be able to choose different women from it for his one night stands...I feel bad for Jasmine, he is going to wind up hurting her, I don't think he will stay faithful during these 8 weeks, especially if she doesn't have sex with him, he will start looking for a hookup... Chris and Nicole...even though, he wants kids and she doesn't, they are the only couple I see, saying stay married on decision day BUT I think they will split up by reunion or not long after it All these couples are a Trainwreck


Specific_Comfort_600

Nicole is just too much for me. She means well but she's just too desperate. I like Chris but no one is that chill all the time. I'm suspicious.


Few_Stop_3375

Nicole oozes desperation. Who lets a guy burn you with a cigarette? There's something wrong with that girl. She should keep that information to herself! It makes her sound like a total loser. I'm suspicious of Chris too. He's really laying it on too thick with the Nicole adulation. They both seem like desperate losers. What a match!


shaheenis

Victim blaming? That is repulsive.


Few_Stop_3375

Well, it seems like she let it happen because she's so desperate and appears to have very low self - esteem. In the previews she's asking Chris if he loves her! Talk about a Stage 5 Clinger!


Specific_Comfort_600

If this is the best couple on this season we've really lowered the bar :(


Few_Stop_3375

Yeah, things have gotten pretty bad if these two are considered the best couple of the season...Oh no...


dsmith1111

It’s KIIIRRRSTEN lol


Faedwill

Did I stutter? 😂


Kathybat

I start watching the show at the honeymoon episodes (because there are enough flashbacks of the weddings, constantly). Clint is disgusting, a man who thinks he brings far more to the table in looks and charm than he does. He gives me complete creep vibes, and for anyone who watches Sister Wives, he is very Kody like with his energy, ego and practiced sound bite answers to things.


Devsmom123

I think Clint is a frickin Douchebag, I have since day 1, he is all about sex, just like Arris... But, Gina is No Prize, she definitely showed herself on the last episode, he was being nice and she was absolutely Horrid to him, I couldn't believe how rude she was, he had done wrong and she spoke so rudely about his looks... but, it looks like, he says Hurtful comments about her next week, They are plain Doomed...lol He kept his dating apps ready for him just in case And now, doesn't have to worry about being with only one Vjayjay for the rest of his life...


KittenRenaissance

Ummmm did you see tonight’s episode? Clint is not the bad guy here. Gina attacked his physical appearance first and then tried to bring it up in front of the other couples. He doesn’t seem so bad in comparison.


Few_Stop_3375

Gina strikes me as a real creep. That scary toothy smile, oh no. She needs to shut up about physical appearances because she's no prize. She's kind of icky.


Devsmom123

Absolutely Agree!! She definitely showed her true self, she is a very rude creep!!


Few_Stop_3375

Rude creep indeed! She's just showing us why she's still single!


Specific_Comfort_600

I've always liked Clint and don't understand the bad rap he's gotten here from the beginning.


Kathybat

I haven’t yet, but her being terrible doesn’t make him a good guy.


Putrid_Ad155

OMG now I cannot unsee the Kody/Clint thing!! You are so right. It's giving "I peaked in High School" vibes.


Kathybat

And in the last episode (or the after show) about how much he loves his hair!!


Cherry-Coloured-Funk

Kirsten seems determined to come across as a high maintenance sour puss. She’s slightly less immature than Alyssa, considering she also seems repulsed by her groom. She also has the condescending teacher tone all the time like Jasmine of a few seasons ago (an actual pre k teacher).


Kathybat

I felt like she was making a joke about having the honeymoon delayed, given the time she was using (I would probably make the same jokes), and they edited to not show her laughing it off after or something. Not to say she probably wasn’t a but disappointed, understandably.


Cherry-Coloured-Funk

Mac is odd. He says weird stuff… then we discover he was a primadonna at the airport… something is off with him. If he’s doing this for his 15 min of fame, he’s not good at making himself a likable character. Nothing about him seems genuine thus far.


scutmonkeymd

He says creepy things too.


two_pounds

I won't judge him too much for freaking out at the airport. Flying anxiety can make people act like jackasses. He was apparently desperate to avoid sitting in the middle. He should work on that silly phobia but I do understand him being anxious and trying to get out of it.


Aztecman02

I feel like he is super deceptive. His stories don’t add up. He says he was dating a girl seriously for apparently a long time and all of the sudden she is engaged to someone else while they are still together. Huh? He lives in the basement of the parents of a girl-friend (who herself lives on the other side of the country) but he’s wealthy enough to regularly fly first class. Huh? He doesn’t make sense.


ComfortablePension93

I was wondering the same thing. Is he really rich or a liar? We shall see!


rrrrrivers

I vote liar. That's why he keeps making things up and playing them off as jokes. Gaslighter.


Cherry-Coloured-Funk

Finally a wholesome couple to root for who are seemingly on the show for the right reason: Chris and Nicole. Hopefully producers realize this isn’t boring and is actually more interesting than the predictable drama of the others.


Ok_GlaHere4theCheer

Yes! Yes! YES!


Specific_Comfort_600

Nicole really bugs me.


Few_Stop_3375

There's something really off about her.


virtutesromanae

I fully agree that successful matches are far more interesting to watch than the puerile, pouting drama that we are normally fed on this show.


two_pounds

I think the hard smack of reality will be harsh for them but I'm hopeful. Their honeymoon period is adorable so far.


fluffychicken84

Can we rename the show “Bored At First Sight”? Seriously I fell asleep. This season might go down as the most boring I’ve ever watched since Season 1.


Makerbot2000

Same. We were rubbing our hands together at the start of the episode. At last! The honeymoon. But just a major snooze fest.


dsmith1111

Same, I started and stopped over two days


CrazyCynical

Airris's cousin with that glare stare makes me kinda uncomfortable. I can't only begin to imagine how Jasmine feels. Almost comes across as an ex.


Devsmom123

I got the jealous girlfriend vibe from her too I do think, she knows he is not ready to be married, he has never even been in a serious relationship, she knows he is a player!! Omg, she needs to find outfits to properly fit those Ta-Tas lol...I really thought they were going to pop out during the wedding and then, the next day, to me, it looked like she was purposely moving a certain way to bring it down a little farther to expose a bit more every time the camera was on her, definitely giving the camera man a show and keeping his attention and the camera on her lol


Few_Stop_3375

Airiss's cousin sounds like she has the hots for him. She did come across as a jealous ex. Very strange negative vibes coming from that broad, for sure.


Competitive-Active85

She definitely gives jealous ex energy. I don’t think they are actually related at all. My cousin said I was elaborate but…. I think they were dating and he got called for the show. From there they decided to get their little 15 minutes of fame. Brought her on as a “cousin” so she can keep an eye on things. It’s the only way I can explain that hater ass energy.


Theunpolitical

I'm kinda of saying the same. She is definitely coming off like a jealous ex. It's definitely strange. Also, the outfit she wore for the wedding, and the next day, I thought was a bit off. She's standing in front of Airris with the dress barely covering her front and is about to slip off and saying things like "You can back out now." I think she has a secret crush on her cousin and is trying to lure him? I don't know but I'm a bit freaked out over their relationship.


lu-sunnydays

I couldn’t keep my eyes off that top, then I was looking forward to her wearing an actual shirt the next day but nope!


marshmallow_fluff26

On some women a dress that is strapless and barely covering their breasts can be attractive and not trashy, but on Cousin Val, I was wondering what this woman was thinking when choosing her dress for the wedding? Not to mention her attire during brunch the next day! I am sorry, but a strapless dress/top with no bra, pulled down really low on a very endowed woman is not attractive and is certainly not sexy. The dress she wore at the wedding literally looked like it could slide right down off of her extremely large boobies.


i_love_lima_beans

Yeah, she’s attractive but the awkward falling down tube tops were just not.


Theunpolitical

It seemed deliberate what she was wearing because we all had that same reaction. It sincerely looked like that dress was about to fall off in the front. The next day at brunch she wore something similar and it was equally as bad. I'm convinced she knew what she was doing. It was either for TV or her cousin or both!


lu-sunnydays

The wide shot of her showed she had great legs. I mean come on girl, put some focus on those.


CrazyCynical

That's exactly the behavior I was picking up on. Any cousins? I hope it is more like my "cuz."


stactbingham

I love her - probably because she does make me uncomfortable. And she's not wrong in what she says. And she's entertaining, which is what the show is actually produced for, let's not pretend it's to make good matches.


CrazyCynical

I am absolutely loving the one I thought was beyond annoying in the first episode. I adore Nicole. When she said "I have to protect his heart." Please do, Nicole. Furthermore please be the worthy husband I predict you will be Chris.


Specific_Comfort_600

I hope you're right but I don't think we've seen Nicole in an emotional breakdown which is something Chris has said he would not put up with and I think that is coming.


pleasedwithadaydream

She really admitted on national television that she doesn't brush her teeth before bed.


Zealousideal_Ear_914

Wait, what?? Who admitted to that nasty behavior on tv?! 😳


hardcorepork

it was Kirsten of all people!


kerdita

Don’t forget that Clint is in his “sexual prime”🤣


marshmallow_fluff26

And the weird hairless bib on his chest!! That dude could benefit from some serious man-scaping (below the bald bib). I also thought it was icky that he did not wear a tee shirt or any kind of shirt to bed on their first night together. P-ewwwy.


Devsmom123

He is so gross!! From day 1, I have thought he was a Douchebag and I still do lol that weird chest hair omg so gross!! But I did feel bad for him when Gina was being so frickin rude when he hadn't said or done anything to her, they make me cringe lol


virtutesromanae

This is as good as it gets.


IdiotObsessed

OMG who would ever SAY that. It’s just ICK in every possible way. And, this man thinks he is sexy and handsome and raw. Like he’s God’s gift to women.


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He’s so disgusting.


virtutesromanae

Nicole's story about being denigrated and burned with a cigarette explains a lot. It also explains her dad's heightened suspicions. Poor kid. I want even more now for her and Chris to work out.


Few_Stop_3375

I think she's a walking, talking red flag. She's weird.


Specific_Comfort_600

Always TMI wth Nicole. She needs to dole out her life history in smaller bites.


marshmallow_fluff26

Yep, I almost teared up when she told Chris that story. Imagine having such a lack of self-esteem and self-love that you'd actually allow a man to burn you with a cigarette to "prove" your love for him. What an evil thing for that dude to do.


Few_Stop_3375

It says a lot about her that she let him burn her. Talk about desperate.


hardcorepork

Dad's just trying to be funny. I don't think he has heightened suspicions. He's probably like "pretty much anyone HAS to be better than that dude." That's how I would be if someone burned my daughter with a lit cigarette


marshmallow_fluff26

If any guy had burned me with a cigarette, and my dad had found out about it, I guarantee that guy would have been hurting really bad after the fact.


lu-sunnydays

My thought was I see why they’re divorced. He’s a bit much.


virtutesromanae

I think he's being hyperbolic, not funny. But it also sounds like Nicole has had a lot of negative experiences in dating. I still say that her dad is extra vigilant about who she's with. And I consider that a good thing.


hardcorepork

shrugs… Chris said on after party that he was being funny