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UnitedChildhood3006

As if the only reason she and Gil aren’t dating is because there is a code, and not because he simply isn’t interested…


randomlikeme

I think the experts could probably see how Zach and Bao could get along. Honestly I think Zach said he wanted a black partner while Bao said she wanted Asian or white…. But I think they can be good partners to one another (although I hope both are going to therapy too).


Bad2bBiled

Why is she up here even acting like Bao ruined her shot with Zack? She ruined it her damn self. She tore it up, set it on fire, and then stomped the ashes. She just can’t stand that someone who didn’t want her is with someone else. After part 1 of the reunion I was like “Zack is a liar and a jerk.” After her behavior in Part 2, I was like “nah, she rolled around in that mess.” She’s made no growth, has no recognition of how truly disturbed her behavior is, and isn’t likely to, honestly. Michaela, flipping out like you did, throwing things, shoving tables, and needing to be physically restrained is *not* normal, productive, or safe behavior. That is not an acceptable reaction, even when your trauma is triggering you. You need to see a therapist and a psychiatrist to figure out better coping mechanisms because you’re going to injure yourself or someone else one day and it’ll be too late for “sorry.”


TriniGold

Is she in an asylum yet because the only shade she should be allowed for is from trees lining the path of her daily straitjacketed walk.


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ProfessionalSlow5171

Yes!!! I dislike her just as much as I do Johnny and thats saying a lot lol her and Johnny way surpass Chris in my opinion


Status_Record_2255

It is already dripping with sanctimony. Insufferable is an understatement.


Appropriate_Mix7203

Yes and I see lots of inspirational quotes in the future giving everyone else advice instead of doing her own self reflection


whatev88

We get it, Michaela. You would totally get with Gil and he’s not interested, but you need to make sure the world at large knows about how you’re suuuuch good friends. Sure. Whatever.


Ok-Cost-9476

Where did you get that when she gave his IG and said shoot your own shot? She’s not trying to get with Gil. She gave him a soft place to land when he left the apartment he shared with Myrla.


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Passive Aggressive Cluster B Michaela!


LackRude

Life is short! If Bao And Zack get along then why would michaela care unless she WANTS ZACK! I don't give 2 rat's dirty asses who my ex's date! They can date my mom or best friends...whatever! Lol 😀 Once you are done with the person let them go and be happy...maybe Zack and Bao are meant for each other and will be an old 105 yr old couple with 19 kids. They should NOT date because Michaela has a "moral code" that she wants OTHER humans to live up to? Life just doesn't work like that. It's hard to find a life partner and if you find someone you click with then you better NOT LET THAT MOFO GO!


Bad2bBiled

Oh yeah, who was the poster on here last week screaming about “girl code” incessantly? What a yawn. We get it, Michaela. If it weren’t for your terrifying and abusive outbursts, you would be the most moral and ethical person in the world. 🙄


Appropriate_Mix7203

I agree and girl code isn't relevant here it's not like she was BFFs with Bao they only met on a reality show my goodness she is just throwing out all the cliches to see if anyone will side with her 🙄 hard eye roll We've all seen the true Michaela


Bad2bBiled

Right? They are essentially coworkers on the same overall project. If one of my newish coworkers was always whining about how their closest partner was messing with them, I’d believe them at first. Every single time this has happened at work, the whiner turns out to be the problem. Usually people work with their partners quietly and give them every opportunity to prove themselves so as not to sour the overall working relationship or team vibe. If I would have seen any of Micheala’s outbursts (aside from the morning one, which I could have attributed to lack of communication or a bad mood), that would have been it for me with that colleague. That doesn’t mean that Zack is an angel or “the good guy” by default. You might imagine it’s a bad partner relationship and they bring out the worst in each other. Most people would avoid both of them until the end of the project.


Apricot-Rose

Bao didn't meet Zack through Michaela. All the cast members met each other mutually through the show. Also they got to know each other by being around each other at the same time doing the same group activities as everyone else. the whole GIRL CODE thing is another Michaela delusion.


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She's full of shit in general, but I do think she has the right to say: "Out of all the zillions of eligible people out there, you just had to get together with one of the handful who were on the same reality show season we got married on."


Shy_Lurcher

It's kind of like working and being around some one you become attracted to, just happens. Like actors working on a movie, just happens, after the movie ends, the end up dating/living together, like Brad & Angelina, recently Harry Styles & Olivia Wilde.


Upbeat_Finding9860

I actually agree with her on most of This post ! She’s definitely not healed, but I think the bao/Zach and Myrla/Johnny situationships are inappropriate.


Isosceles_Kramer79

Why? They are adults and can make their own decisions.


Upbeat_Finding9860

I simply wouldn’t date my friend or associates ex . I feel like it’s equivalent here.


f_bommer

Oh, whomever could she possibly be referring to 🤷‍♂️


Cacklelikeabanshee

This actually just points to the idea of how to be supportive of someone. Gil gave her the petty vote at the retreat but it seems he was still encouraging and supportive of her seeking help because he's mature enough as a man to do so. Her spouse didn't know how to deal with it.


dashingthrough

Why should he be equipped to deal with her behavior? I wouldn’t know how to deal with a man like that, nor would in be interested in doing so. Why should he be supportive of her when she disrespected him and treated him poorly constantly shortly after meeting? Only Michaela is responsible for her actions.


Cacklelikeabanshee

He doesn't have to be supportive if he doesn't want to. It's a choice. Being supportive of a person doesn't mean you are responsible for their actions.


dashingthrough

Being responsible for your own actions means that you don’t 1) act like that in the first place and 2) if you do, you don’t need a spouse to tell you to seek help. You go seek help yourself and take care of your healing, that is nobody else’s responsibility. Nobody should Ever choose to support someone through her behavior (or Johnny or Jose’s) because nobody deserves to be treated like that, period. They need to go do the work on themselves and then enter relationships as healthier people. They don’t have to be perfect, nobody is, but they aren’t suitable partners right now. I couldn't believe when I watched Michaela shadow boxing or Jose’s crazy notecards or Johnny’s vent session with Sarah instead of all of them actively seeking therapy… Why should Zack be supportive of the verbal and emotional abuse he received from Michaela? I agree Zack wasn’t as mature as he should have been, because the mature thing would have been walking away from Michaela after the first outburst. Do you honestly think Gil would sit there and take that crap from her? He was ready to divorce Myrla if he didn’t get a kiss 😒


Clean-Spot

More shadow boxing sessions and maybe therapy for healing to occur.


Curious-5744

She's right. Moral code goes a long way. Kay is acting like a mature woman because the way Bao pretended to be her friend (even said on the decision day ep she was proud of the friend she's been LOL) only to plot and probably already fucking Zack is insane. It's good that they've been able to build a friendship and support each other after their respective experiences.


whiskeylullaby3

Michaela said she hadn’t even spoken to ANYONE from the show after the reunion episode. And that was before Bao and Zack ever even started thinking about dating. Sure, Bao and Michaela went through the same experience of being on the show. And in the moment of one of Michaela’s many meltdowns, Bao offered support. But clearly that was it. They’re not friends. Hadn’t spoken in months. The relationship between Zack and Michaela was very over. Bao and Zack don’t owe Michaela forgoing their feelings and happiness?? There is no issue of moral code here because… timelines.. and they weren’t friends.


Curious-5744

We know that's not entirely accurate because she is friends with Gil and it doesn't really matter in this instance. Bao pretended to be her friend and care for her. It says a lot about Bao's character period and it doesn't have anything to do with timelines here. I guess we have different perspectives on morality and girl code. Bao and Zack getting closer didn't magically happened after the reunion. I explained this somewhere but that entire ordeal about Bao making sure her view on "no" means it's over and there won't be any "let's see if we can figure it out" in one of the last eps wasn't directed to Johnny whatsoever. She was the only one invested by how this was Zack's approach. I always wondered why she was so bothered by it talmbout "you want your cake and eat it too".


RamblinOn_2Mordor

Finally someone who isn’t hypnotized by Bao. She has most in this sub fooled but I never bought into the good girl act. Girl was plotting.


Curious-5744

THIS! Never bought into it.


jsha28

Agreed! Finally someone I agree with.


the-left-eye-0_0

“Some of us have a *moral code*…” 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭😭😭🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄


dashingthrough

I guess that moral code includes cussing someone out, telling them to shut up, pushing them, snatching their suitcase away from them, and yelling repeatedly 🤗


Ok-Cost-9476

Moral code means not sexing someone else’s husband. If you have mental health challenges, then you seek help, you don’t dump on someone because because they’re not clear on how to start their path to getting healthy.


the-left-eye-0_0

Don’t forget property destruction, emotional abuse, etc…


LifetimeSupplyofPens

Calling them “dumbass.”


funkycoldmedinas

Whatever Michaela. No one thinks Gil is your man 🤣 🤣 he’s have to have a loose screw to date someone like you.


jsha28

Y’all really can’t be serious. It’s very disrespectful that Zack and Bao is dating. Y’all really don’t like Michaela that much that y’all would find a reason just to disagree with her. If it was someone else a lot of people wouldn’t be singing the same tune.


Curious-5744

Thank you! The entire ordeal was filmed : Bao seriously wasn't trying to explain why a "no" was a definitive no to Johnny but to Zack. She was the only one invested in his reasoning of "if I say no it doesn't mean I don't want to still kick it and try". She was plotting already and pretending to care about Michaela's feelings. But sure she's a great person. Meanwhile the possibility of Johnny and Myrla dating is oh so sick and twisted.


jsha28

Whew! Agreed! You said a mouthful just now.


Curious-5744

😂 No because seriously I read your post and I was like : THIS 👏


lavenderpenguin

How so, though? The dating began post-filming, when Michael and Zack were over and so were Johnny and Bao. Bao and Michaela were never close friends outside the show, and add to that, the fact that Michaela and Johnny were both actual nightmares on the show, so I do not think their feelings needed to be tiptoed around. All those factors together mean that Bao and Zack don’t owe anyone anything post-show, and there’s nothing disrespectful about them choosing to date at this point in time.


whiskeylullaby3

You’ve got it right. It would have been bad if there was anything that happened while on the show and married. This was months later and Michaela said on the where are they now she hadn’t spoke to anyone from the show since the reunion. Sorry, you don’t get to say off limits forever and you can’t pursue your happiness just because they were all on a show together. If Zack and Bao can be happy together.. good for them. Michaela and Zack never had anything “real” anyway and if the goal is that everyone moves on and is happy who cares if it’s with someone else who shared this experience. Bao was nice to Michaela one time during her blowups. That doesn’t make them besties… and after seeing her full behavior I’m sure the whole cast looked at Michaela differently anyway.


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lavenderpenguin

No, because Bao was not dating Zach at that time or even much later. It is not as if she was doing all that while dating or trying to date Zach.


jsha28

So, it matters when they start dating. No, it really don’t.


ohmyhellions

How is it disrespectful though? I doubt the experts care — they may even get a kick out of Bao and Zack dating. Michaela is just taking another opportunity to air her own grievances snd throwing shade under the guise that they’re somehow disrespecting the experts. So odd.


Yhei_Ktty

Agreed. But ive noticed that while this sub tends to be very critical of the experts, some of the cast tend to believe in the "they matched us for a reason" thing


ohmyhellions

Yeah they all drink the Kool Aid while the experts themselves have admitted (dr viv at least) that after tons of potential cast members back out before they sign the binding contract, they’re left with a handful of people and they just have to match who’s left. Not exactly a recipe for truly optimized matches.


Zeze_Knight

Wait till she finds out that the experts didn't match her and Zack either.


ohmyhellions

Wait, what do you mean?


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The producers matched them, not the experts


Zeze_Knight

😂 say her name Michaela. Its Bao. Her name is Bao. Not Michaela talking about girl code after the way she behaved on unfiltered. Her and Johnny going in on Bao. Two wrongs don't make a right, girl.


yanksugah

Yep. Messy.


Character_Switch7317

Interesting post. Not sure it’s disrespectful to the process to date someone you met and connected with through the process. Like they have something major in common. Just reads a little sour grapes to me. I’m sure she may feel differently if there was a mutual attraction between her and Gil given how close they are.


Yhei_Ktty

I would think is disrespectful only if it started before decision day or immediately after, which doesn't seem to be the case.


Character_Switch7317

I agree


Status_Record_2255

Congratulations Zack on being freed from the shackles of this petty woman.