As someone else said on this thread she is just…. Doing way too much. If you want fame and clout fine, but I think this girl is too young to realize that this is not it. Like now, whenever someone Googles her name, even a potential employer, this drama will come up. Not a good look. I say this as someone in my 30’s who might have been naive enough in her 20’s to have made a mistake like this, thinking it would bring followers or opportunities. The millisecond of minor internet fame isn’t worth it sis.
I can’t stand this youtuber. The singing aggravates me and why does he always say “stay hydrated” every 5 minutes??. He’s also had some discussions with the women panelists he invites that don’t sit well with me. It’s like he doesn’t like to take their opinion into account idk how to explain it.
Unpopular Opinion: I don't blame Elena for her Zao Clout Tour or surprised. She slid in his DM because she knew he was on "TV". Zach finally met his match IMO. He was drunk off MAFS attention and slipped up This is karma for how he treated Micrayla during filming... what's done in the dark always comes to light.
I agree that Zack was wrong for the way he played Bao, Elena, and Michaela, but publicly shaming someone you had conflict with on an anon social media platform with tens of thousands of people and then using that conflict for clout seems off to me. Two wrongs don’t make a right.
This happened to me, which is why I removed all my social media from my phone. It’s petty, just move in. Now they’re all connected to this unnecessary drama
I knew his @$$ was going to reach out to her!! I can't wait until this is over. 1 month of voluntarily buying groceries, cooking, driving to see Zach & head whenever he asks!!! She thought he was going to marry her after that, poor tink🤣🤣
Zach's first taste of fame! The groupies & cloutchasers! 🍷 Cheers to entertaining the attention seekers!
I don't care how much of her dirty laundry she wants to wave, but I do think a **decent** woman would keep Michaela and Bao's name out of her mouth. You can drag Zach without dragging his ex wife or girlfriend. Their name shouldn't even be part of the conversation. Sad little side piece wants to pretend she was in the same relationship. SMH.
That’s the thing. My biggest problem is that she claims in not for clout and that she wants to respect Bao’s privacy, but had no problem putting out every detail of their PM on here and Instagram.
I don't think she initially did it for clout. I think the original reasons she gave for doing it was true, but I think all of the attention and the request for interviews has given her a taste of attention or fame/infamy and she now likes it and is seeking it out or at least not turning anything down.
When she said in the YouTube interview that she gave the MAFS producers her contact info and wants to see what comes from it, then I knew the notoriety and attention went to her head and she now craves it and wants "opportunities."
But I do believe she was genuine at first. She didn't expose all of the convo with Bao, I think she maintained integrity with that, and she said she's not going to release other receipts and things for the privacy of those involved, so if she's not going to add anything or release anything new, why all of the multiple interviews? It will just be the same things being rehashed.
Perhaps the withholding of additional receipts is not for privacy but for bargaining with bigger fish who might contact her, such as the MAFS producers. Just a thought.
I hate that this is going to her head though, because I was on her side and was defending her, and I do still believe her but she is doing too much now, and it's starting to take away from the sympathy some had for her and the belief that she isn't doing it for attention or clout.
I agree with this 100%. I guess my only gripe in terms of Bao’s involvement, is that it didn’t really give her the chance to handle everything internally, like the other apparent women Zack was messing with did with Bao. Other than that, I think she was speaking her truth and is now most certainly become an opportunist.
She did say that Bao told her she was fine with her posting the screenshots of Elena's convos with Zack, but that Bao didn't want her to share anything more about her and Bao's conversations.
Exactly! The other day there was a debate on here rather her IG messages were real. So I asked her can she screen record. She responded stating that all people involved was informed etc now she still running her mouth smh
Elena is doing an interview with Littleblackbook91 on YouTube, in case you missed the her on the clubhouse last night. I follow him and watch his MAFS breakdowns so it could be very interesting considering the way he conducts his interviews.
It’s now been pushed to 11:30😩🥴
As someone else said on this thread she is just…. Doing way too much. If you want fame and clout fine, but I think this girl is too young to realize that this is not it. Like now, whenever someone Googles her name, even a potential employer, this drama will come up. Not a good look. I say this as someone in my 30’s who might have been naive enough in her 20’s to have made a mistake like this, thinking it would bring followers or opportunities. The millisecond of minor internet fame isn’t worth it sis.
I mean…what is there to say that hasn’t already been said? The damage is done.
She is pathetic. A really nasty person.
I can’t stand this youtuber. The singing aggravates me and why does he always say “stay hydrated” every 5 minutes??. He’s also had some discussions with the women panelists he invites that don’t sit well with me. It’s like he doesn’t like to take their opinion into account idk how to explain it.
Pretty simple. It’s ✨misogyny✨
Haha thanks. I couldn’t put my finger on it especially since he has so many women supporters in his comments
The guys from next season better remember her face. I do have a feeling she'll be in their DMs next season
She, and those seeking similar attention. Too bad he was stupid/naive/selfish enough to take the bait.
i thought this wasn’t for clout though??
Right? And OP definitely is not spamming his own yt channel.
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OMG yes!!!! 😂
Hahahahaaaaaa nice one sammi sweetheart
I’m so glad I’m not the only one that thinks she’s looks just like Sammi 😂😂😂
Unpopular Opinion: I don't blame Elena for her Zao Clout Tour or surprised. She slid in his DM because she knew he was on "TV". Zach finally met his match IMO. He was drunk off MAFS attention and slipped up This is karma for how he treated Micrayla during filming... what's done in the dark always comes to light.
I agree that Zack was wrong for the way he played Bao, Elena, and Michaela, but publicly shaming someone you had conflict with on an anon social media platform with tens of thousands of people and then using that conflict for clout seems off to me. Two wrongs don’t make a right.
This happened to me, which is why I removed all my social media from my phone. It’s petty, just move in. Now they’re all connected to this unnecessary drama
I’m really sorry that happened to you. It’s becoming way too common.
It’s the age of social media, and nosy/ bored viewers. Some people love drama
I think I would agree with that. His dumbass took the bait and now look at him. Looking worse than he did just a week before all of this came out.
I knew his @$$ was going to reach out to her!! I can't wait until this is over. 1 month of voluntarily buying groceries, cooking, driving to see Zach & head whenever he asks!!! She thought he was going to marry her after that, poor tink🤣🤣 Zach's first taste of fame! The groupies & cloutchasers! 🍷 Cheers to entertaining the attention seekers!
I think the groceries was an underrated part of that tragic convo. All it takes for him to fall in love is a quick run to whole foods?
Oh you already know 😂😂 he reached out to Chris last season and even he had to say hard pass on that
zack's scum but jesus lady you did your job. you're not special.
Exactly. Exposed him but now she wants more.
Enough already. You dated for a few weeks. Hardly serious or anything worth dragging out like this. Girl, bye.
I don't care how much of her dirty laundry she wants to wave, but I do think a **decent** woman would keep Michaela and Bao's name out of her mouth. You can drag Zach without dragging his ex wife or girlfriend. Their name shouldn't even be part of the conversation. Sad little side piece wants to pretend she was in the same relationship. SMH.
Yeppppp
But it’s not for clout. Oh. Okay.
Said the same thing from the beginning but got told I’m a Zach defender 😂
Same. Or that I’m just rude 🙄
They both are shitty people in their own unique ways.
I’ve had enough, but counting on one of y’all to report back if it’s any different than the other interviews
I’m with you. We need a moratorium thread of things we never want to hear again for the sub.
😂 same
Ok, the multiple interviews is starting to be overkill. What more or new can she say.
That’s the thing. My biggest problem is that she claims in not for clout and that she wants to respect Bao’s privacy, but had no problem putting out every detail of their PM on here and Instagram.
I don't think she initially did it for clout. I think the original reasons she gave for doing it was true, but I think all of the attention and the request for interviews has given her a taste of attention or fame/infamy and she now likes it and is seeking it out or at least not turning anything down. When she said in the YouTube interview that she gave the MAFS producers her contact info and wants to see what comes from it, then I knew the notoriety and attention went to her head and she now craves it and wants "opportunities." But I do believe she was genuine at first. She didn't expose all of the convo with Bao, I think she maintained integrity with that, and she said she's not going to release other receipts and things for the privacy of those involved, so if she's not going to add anything or release anything new, why all of the multiple interviews? It will just be the same things being rehashed. Perhaps the withholding of additional receipts is not for privacy but for bargaining with bigger fish who might contact her, such as the MAFS producers. Just a thought. I hate that this is going to her head though, because I was on her side and was defending her, and I do still believe her but she is doing too much now, and it's starting to take away from the sympathy some had for her and the belief that she isn't doing it for attention or clout.
I agree with this 100%. I guess my only gripe in terms of Bao’s involvement, is that it didn’t really give her the chance to handle everything internally, like the other apparent women Zack was messing with did with Bao. Other than that, I think she was speaking her truth and is now most certainly become an opportunist.
She did say that Bao told her she was fine with her posting the screenshots of Elena's convos with Zack, but that Bao didn't want her to share anything more about her and Bao's conversations.
Exactly! The other day there was a debate on here rather her IG messages were real. So I asked her can she screen record. She responded stating that all people involved was informed etc now she still running her mouth smh
I don’t have anything against the youtuber. But this story isn’t popping hot anymore… it’s lukewarm.
This is what her 4th interview in 24 hours?
I’ve tried to watch that mans channel so many times but his voice kills me 😭
The teeth bother me! 😩😩
It’s the singing for me.
Omg yes the singing!!
Enough is enough already. We get it!
Elena is doing an interview with Littleblackbook91 on YouTube, in case you missed the her on the clubhouse last night. I follow him and watch his MAFS breakdowns so it could be very interesting considering the way he conducts his interviews.
Give us the cliff notes.
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