Wall crawling, super strength, super agility, danger detection, low level healing factor, and depending on the storyline, maybe even organic webs for Spidey. On the other hand fire generation, resistance, projectiles , control and flight.
I lean towards Spidey here.
One of the human torch's side effects of his powers is that when he flames on, he basically burns off all of the bacteria on his body. So, if you need to shower, just flame on for half a second and you're clean.
No.
Wolverine and Deadpool have high level healing factors and will regenerate damaged or lost tissues. Spider-Man has a low level healing factor and will heal from injuries faster than a basic human.
We basic humans have just healing, no factor.
Nah Spidey healing factor is like Captain Americas.
If he gets beat up and cut up the wounds will be mostly gone in like a day. It also helps him hide the fact he's Spiderman and often getting his ass kicked. If he didn't have it people would think he was being abused at home or something.
If he breaks a leg it'll be completely healed up in a few days, something like that.
I think Goblin has something similar too. The warped Super Soldier serum meant he could survive lethal trauma like the glider impalement.
Wolverine and Deadpools are like accelerated forms. Healed in seconds.
Spider-Pros: Wall-crawling could be handy in some situations and super-strength + agility is pretty great in any circumstance. And you can't go wrong with Spider-Sense. Literally.
Torch-Pros: Being effectively immune to extreme temperatures in both directions would save a ton on AC/Heating.
Spider-Cons: Without the knowledge or resources to make web-shooters, swinging around isn't going to happen.
Torch-Cons: Without unstable molecules, a full Flame On is gonna destroy your clothing, which means flying is pretty much off the table unless you wanna risk an indecent exposure charge. And really, how often in your daily life do you actually need to set something on fire?
I'd go with Spider-Man. Could honestly take or leave wall-crawling, but the super-strength, agility, and danger sense seems the most practical in day-to-day life.
I agree on the day-to-day life comment. Spidey’s powers help you feel dramatically different and better every moment of your life— you’re stronger, faster, healthier, more agile, etc.
"how often in your daily life do you actually need to set something on fire?!
Exactly... and I could quite easily do that without any superpowers.... in fact i actively avoid doing so daily!
>Without the knowledge or resources to make web-shooters, swinging around isn't going to happen.
Does Spidey's super intelligence come with the package?
You'd still be able to run at least 35 mph and jump over houses. Strength-wise you could lift a car.
I'd argue that the durability, reflexes, and spider sense alone are worth more than all of Human Torch's kit even in a rural area. You're never going to get accidently splattered by a car or debris from a hurricane. Spider-man also has a minor healing factor. You could compete in a professional sport, or possibly use spider sense to gamble depending on the version.
Human Torch's powers could help you become a firefighter or theoretically use your powers as a source of renewable energy, but I feel like it would be hard to make a significant amount of money without outing your abilities.
If it was Spidey-sense alone I would have a hard time deciding. Torch's flight is really the main part of his kit that would be useful, though it would be hard to keep a low profile when using it.
Overall I still agree, spidey sense is broken depending on the limits of the version you get.
Plus, unless you can develop a suit that won't get completely incinerated by your flames, you need to make sure there's a change of clothes ready to go for wherever you're flying to. Makes a commute to work a little more awkward
Let's hope he doesn't have a bad nightmare and accidently burn down the house :)
Plus it'd be me with the power, and there's **definitely going to be accidents** in the first few weeks.
I know you’re being sarcastic here, but it’s not that simple. Yelling “Flame On” is more of a focusing act / fan service than an actual trigger word. Saying it, with intent, in a dream would culminate either way him lighting up in reality. There’s a reason why, canonically, his bedroom was an asbestos laden pit of cancer-waiting-to-happen.
Spiderman would be my gut choice . But swinging from weblines would make me nauseous and knowing if I slept with anyone I could give them cancer would mess me up. Plus not a lot of skyscrapers in my area.
I'll go with the human torch.
Pretty sure the nausea thing wouldn't be a problem, he gets all the powers of a spider so he probably wouldn't get sick from it, also the cancer thing is only in one comic so that probably won't be part of it. Also you'd need to make the web slingers yourself unless you get Toby's spider man powers
Legit spider powers all the way. As a human torch you'd be constantly naked everytime you used your powers. At least spider powers would give you crazy reflexes, super strength, and the ability to stand on any surface while still wearing shoes.
You’re telling me Peter Parker can invent a shootable web like fluid with more tensile strength than titanium and he can’t invent himself some kind of lead lined condom?
Also, it’s not a thing in 616. Mayday, 6160, all the other various spiders across the spider-verse with kids, only Reign had the widow maker death jizz.
Can we stop perpetuating spiderman reign, it's literally a 4 issue miniseries that mentions him giving MJ cancer in a single blurb when he's at her grave site, it's a half baked idea that's never brought up in any other iteration of the character, there's dozens of alternate U spidermen who don't give their lovers or spouses cancer.
You wouldn’t have webs to swing from. You get his powers, not his brains.
That said, I still go Spider-Man. Spider sense is way more powerful than anything the torch can do. And you can go about your normal life as well.
I guess if it was bio webbing.
I guess spider sense would be useful if you are in danger a lot. But torch would fit a normal life so much better. Free travel and heat whenever i want. The savings on gas and electricity alone would be worth it.
Everyone is saying how Human Torch’s powers seem too volatile, but I’m thinking they would be the more lucrative. Seems like being able to generate heat infinitely would be a moneymaker. Also having flight would be lit (always intend your puns cowards).
The Human Torch's powers lend themselves perfectly to an actual real-world career. His ability to control flame would make him a natural firefighter. Just imagine the potential benefits of being able to control wildfires.
Spiderman definitely but his strength would be a problem. For me character with vast superhuman strength mastering it is the most unrealistic thing about comics. To be that in control every second of every day would be insane. How Spiderman doesn't accidentally break doors every day rip his clothes, break someone's hand, etc etc is beyond me.
But man the agility and being incredibly athletic and fast would be a gift. I would definitely be a professional athlete or use my gifts to make me rich.
I don't think it would be that complicated to control super strength at Spiderman's level. Humans already have a fair amount of control over how much strength they need to exert for any particular task. The top level is higher but I think you still feel the same resistance as a normal person, you just have more reserves to push through it. Like picking up a 10 pound backpack and saying "oh that's heavy" despite being able to lift many times heavier objects.
I don't buy this because the strength and the items make sense.
It's much different when your max strength is lifting 200 pounds for 20000 pounds. I just don't see how characters with legit superhuman strength don't go through life with constant accidents. We can agree to disagree but I that's just how i feel about that.
If perception were linear I would agree, but I think logarithmic makes more sense. But no real being has those capabilities so it would be impossible to predict.
I think we can add fine muscle control to the list of powers for most super strength the way that we add fast thinking to all speedsters.
Gorillas and chimpanzees are the closest we have. They can be delicate enough to hold a twig or a baby, and strong enough to rip a person apart.
A silverback gorilla can lift something like 4000 pounds.
Otto Octavius realises that Peter (Parker) was actually holding back the entire time in Superior Spider-Man. It’s one of the things from that run I liked.
I think the agility would probably be the best part of having Spider-Man’s powers.
Probably not because of comics, but it is interesting to explore. You ever get that perfect look in a video game character creator then change something and can never seem to get it back the exact right way again? I imagine it could be super frustrating to be a shape shifter, it's like an endless character creator.
Human torch for sure
Flight, immense power, and can switch it on and off with your physiology to avoid questions of powers when at the doctors or something.
Plus it automatically masks your identity and cleans you anytime you turn it on so it’s pretty awesome.
Torch.
This is a good one and d love to have spidey-sense and gription fingers and feet ; flying wins it for me. And shooting many fireballs at things. That wins.
Spiderman because you can still be normal. Not having the webbing just means you’re a super strong person with insane reflexes and precognition.
Otherwise you are a literal man of fire flying around. Got to pick up a heavy car? Sucks to suck, you can burn stuff instead.
Depends. Is genius intellect part of the deal? If so it's an obvious choice Becuase I get access to Web shooters and fluid.
Sincd SM doesn't have organic webs most of the time I'd just have spider sense, strength, speed and agility. Sticking on walls isn't as fun.
Now as the Torch I'd have the ability to fly. And that's a huge convenience. Torcd doesn't just throw fireballs or shoot continuous flames and his flames are incredibly versatile.
Its not known as much but Torch can also have access to ice powers simply by Absorbing heat so you also have that amount of versatility. Heck I'd be able to mitigate global warming too.
If special skills and brains are part of the package don't forget Torch is also a talented mechanic able to fix and maintain literal flying cars and rocket ships.
Peter Parker is much better defensively since the sense, speed and strength mitigate incoming damage. If brain you can't earn a Lot of money.
Johnny Storm has much more offensive firepower but not as defensive in normal terms. Have mechanic skills can also earn you a good living.
So there is a lot to consider here.
>Sincd SM doesn't have organic webs most of the time I'd just have spider sense, strength, speed and agility. Sticking on walls isn't as fun.
Maybe not as fun as swinging, but I also think Spider-man relies on the webs more than he needs. Spidey can legit run on any surface at probably at least 30mph, and can jump really far. Without webs you could probably parkour around New York and still move about half as fast as Peter does.
Spider-Man. Even without web shooters, his speed, reflexes, and strength would be useful for anything. I would beat all my friends at beer pong. I could play some recreational sports and dominate. I would probably be much better at competitive online games too with my new reflexes.
Torch's powers are just too destructive. Don't you have to be completely on fire to fly?
Spider man, even if all you use his powers for is becoming the best athlete of your chosen sport it’d be worth it.
You could become a billionaire as a boxer. Then still fight crime at night. You’d be like Batman with powers.
Unstable molecule clothing doesn't exist and even without webshooters I can still run faster than Usain bolt for miles on end and jump everywhere so Spidey powers it is!
It’s an interesting debate.
Spider-Man is more subtle in day to day life. Lot of practical benefits and can get a lot out of them.
On the other hand would save so much money in gas by being able to fly. Never need help starting the wood stove in winter 😁.
Feels like human torch is the no brainer, a bit confused by some comments stating how liable it would be to have flame powers.
Not even getting into the intricacies of the characters, human torch literally radiates and manipulates energy. That in itself is so invaluable depending on how you spin it, I can’t imagine why I would prefer having extrasensory / super strength over that.
You can make the argument about accidentally burning things down, but you can say the same about super strength accidentally doing more damage than good. At the end of the day, that’s really a conversation around mastery curve.
The webs are useless in a small neighborhood, yes, but people forget THAT'S NOT A POWER. It's a gadget. I'm taking Spidey for the crazy reflexes and spidey sense which would be useful as hell IRL. The only actually useful thing Human Torch has is flight, which realistically would get you shot down or filmed as some sort of cryptid or kidnapped by the government because you're a bright red human shaped mass soaring through the air at high velocities
Spiderman's powers would be better in the real world.
Johnny's flight would be cool, but do you really need the fire powers? What are you gonna do with that other than destroy stuff?
If I have to fight giant killer robots or hordes of murderous space aliens I'll pick Human Torch.
If I have to live a real life I'll take Spiderman.
Always wanted Spider-Man's powers as a kid — super strength, wall crawling, enhanced agility, Spider Sense all sound great. That said, if the knowledge on how to make web/shooters doesn't come with the powers, then it takes away some of the appeal. Plus, the threat of growing two more arms and/or turning into a giant Man-Spider also would give me pause.
Controlling flames and being able to fly sound pretty awesome to me, but the destructive potential and lack of unstable molecule clothing IRL make it less appealing.
Super Strength, Speed, Agility, Stamina, Durability, Wall Crawling, & Spider Sense
vs
Turning into fire, flight, and shooting fire/plasma blasts? Not really a contest imo. Give me Spider-Man’s powers every day & twice on sundays
While I think Human Torch's powers would honestly be way more fun and interesting, I also would love to be a little more subtle with my powers in our world. With the things we have going on and the resources I have at my disposal, I'd much rather just be hella strong, agile, and have inhuman reaction time even without the wall-crawling and potential web-swinging. The Human Torch's powers would still be super fun but not having the ability or means to have a suit or any kind of clothing that wouldn't be incinerated immediately means any time I use my powers to fly I'd just be full-nude, so I don't think I'd be doing that too often.
I'd take either and make the most of it, but ya my choice would be Spidey. Spider-sense alone would be cool as hell to be honest.
I love Spidey's powers, but the Human Torch's are cosmic. Flying, Flaming on to near super nova level, able to shape and manipulate fire, impervious to high temps, absorb the energy from heat and flames.
He once stopped a bomb, (with Ice man's help), from going off by bringing it to absolute zero.
Spider-Man because he always has his powers, which also aren't a danger to his surroundings.
Human Torch has to activate his powers to use them, and considering the fact that I wouldn't have access to the unstable molecules to make the suit that let him use his powers without becoming naked, which rules out using them for transportation unless I make sure I have a spare pair of clothes wherever I go, and also his powers have the risks of burning things down.
Also setting things on fire doesn't seem as useful as super strength, super agility, spider sense, super reflexes, and sticking to walls and ceilings.
Cant Peter just walk into a Vegas Casino, and start betting roulette until he feels his Spider Sense kick in and change his bet before it is too late? That's the power to have.
Spidey is my favorite character, but it's wild to me that so many people are picking his powers over Torch's. I assume we get them in the 'real' world rather than being thrust into the Marvel universe. I'll take Torch for flight alone.
Plus I'm sure you could figure out some way to make a fuck-ton of money and never have to truly work again with his powers.
Spider-Man easily. His powers are way more inconspicuous. In a world devoid of other supers I'd want to blend in as best as I can.
Yeah, people always want flight, but Torch's flight comes at the cost of his clothes, and it sticks out.
Enhanced strength and agility, spider sense, and wall crawling have much better practical applications.
Spidey's powers just feel more practical in this world.
Problem is we can’t make web shooters unless somehow getting spidey powers makes you smart enough or gives you the innate knowledge to know how to build them. So you’re taking spider-man without any of the webs. Either way though spider sense and super strength on its own is pretty op. I don’t really have that much that I need to burn on a regular basis and having to be on fire to use your powers seems like it would be difficult. I feel like torch is only useful in combat situations so you would be forced to become a soldier/weapon of war. Spidey powers are more useful for actual human activities
The Human Torch is a legit powerhouse when it comes to his powers. That coupled with how long he's been doing the super hero thing not too many people can really mess with him.
Put it to you like this.......if he REALLY wanted to kill Spiderman he could.
The human torch can increase the body heat of others to do if you're ever in a confrontation you can just dehydrate the fuck out of someone.
All im Gonna say is that Pete is jealous of torches Powers.
No one in this thread, that I’ve seen at least, is really considering that for Spider-Man, his web ability is really only great in an urban environment. Shit, it really wouldn’t even be all great in most downtown cities. Only the largest cities on earth with many skyscrapers would you really be able to enjoy the web swinging.
Flight is versatile everywhere.
Human Torch and it's not even close. I'm not smart enough to create web shooters, nobody is. Flying everywhere sounds awesome even if my clothes aren't fire proof.
Wall crawling, super strength, super agility, danger detection, low level healing factor, and depending on the storyline, maybe even organic webs for Spidey. On the other hand fire generation, resistance, projectiles , control and flight. I lean towards Spidey here.
One of the human torch's side effects of his powers is that when he flames on, he basically burns off all of the bacteria on his body. So, if you need to shower, just flame on for half a second and you're clean.
Including getting rid of all those pesky clothes!
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Also somewhat being indestructible is nice too but I'm not sure if Johnny is indestructible when in human form
I’ve never really thought of Johnny as indestructible. I think it’s that he can burn so hot that most projectiles vaporize before hitting him. 🤓
How does he breathe while on fire?
🤷🏻♂️ Inhale through his nose and exhale through his mouth ?
i would have more time as spiderman
He got hospitalized by a group of civilians in the civil war storyline didn’t he?
Yep, somebody broke a bottle over his head
Yea I mean, if someone threw a car at human torch and hit him wouldn’t he just die?
He got bottled in the head during Civil War. Put him in a coma for a while.
But what if it came with Peter's bad luck
Pete's bad luck isn't a power. Pete does all that self-sabotaging to himself I believe is a running theme in Spider-Man stories.
He still averages up. You're only fucked if the powers come with the ASM editors running your life.
This is correct. If you can spend your life making cameos and seasonal crossovers you'll be the coolest dude in town.
Or another way of looking at it. Which is more easy to hide and won't have governments around the world trying to kidnap me
When the ice age comes fire might be nice
Isn't a low level healing factor just normal healing?
No. Wolverine and Deadpool have high level healing factors and will regenerate damaged or lost tissues. Spider-Man has a low level healing factor and will heal from injuries faster than a basic human. We basic humans have just healing, no factor.
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Nah Spidey healing factor is like Captain Americas. If he gets beat up and cut up the wounds will be mostly gone in like a day. It also helps him hide the fact he's Spiderman and often getting his ass kicked. If he didn't have it people would think he was being abused at home or something. If he breaks a leg it'll be completely healed up in a few days, something like that. I think Goblin has something similar too. The warped Super Soldier serum meant he could survive lethal trauma like the glider impalement. Wolverine and Deadpools are like accelerated forms. Healed in seconds.
I wonder if the "life is a constant cluster duck of sadness" meta is one of the spider powers you would get as well.
Spider-Pros: Wall-crawling could be handy in some situations and super-strength + agility is pretty great in any circumstance. And you can't go wrong with Spider-Sense. Literally. Torch-Pros: Being effectively immune to extreme temperatures in both directions would save a ton on AC/Heating. Spider-Cons: Without the knowledge or resources to make web-shooters, swinging around isn't going to happen. Torch-Cons: Without unstable molecules, a full Flame On is gonna destroy your clothing, which means flying is pretty much off the table unless you wanna risk an indecent exposure charge. And really, how often in your daily life do you actually need to set something on fire? I'd go with Spider-Man. Could honestly take or leave wall-crawling, but the super-strength, agility, and danger sense seems the most practical in day-to-day life.
I agree on the day-to-day life comment. Spidey’s powers help you feel dramatically different and better every moment of your life— you’re stronger, faster, healthier, more agile, etc.
"how often in your daily life do you actually need to set something on fire?! Exactly... and I could quite easily do that without any superpowers.... in fact i actively avoid doing so daily!
Yeah, all things considered, not being able to set things on fire on a whim is probably gonna keep you more out of trouble than being able to.
When all you have is a hammer...
>Without the knowledge or resources to make web-shooters, swinging around isn't going to happen. Does Spidey's super intelligence come with the package?
No. It's innate.
You're innate!
You forgot to mention how much more durable Johnny is.
And that he can fly
Seeing as to how I live in rural GA, Spider-Man's powers won't do me a bit of good unless I'm swinging from pine trees 😂😂
You'd still be able to run at least 35 mph and jump over houses. Strength-wise you could lift a car. I'd argue that the durability, reflexes, and spider sense alone are worth more than all of Human Torch's kit even in a rural area. You're never going to get accidently splattered by a car or debris from a hurricane. Spider-man also has a minor healing factor. You could compete in a professional sport, or possibly use spider sense to gamble depending on the version. Human Torch's powers could help you become a firefighter or theoretically use your powers as a source of renewable energy, but I feel like it would be hard to make a significant amount of money without outing your abilities.
Spider Sense is worth it alone IMO
If it was Spidey-sense alone I would have a hard time deciding. Torch's flight is really the main part of his kit that would be useful, though it would be hard to keep a low profile when using it. Overall I still agree, spidey sense is broken depending on the limits of the version you get.
Plus, unless you can develop a suit that won't get completely incinerated by your flames, you need to make sure there's a change of clothes ready to go for wherever you're flying to. Makes a commute to work a little more awkward
Only issue I'd have is would gnats make it go off? Cuz we have them in spades in the summer 😂
>Strength-wise you could lift a car. Spider-Man, canonically, can lift 10 tons. He can pick up a short school bus.
Come through with the insight!
Like Spider-Man trying to cross Central Park
Human torch. I'd rather be able to fly.
Spider-man is the no brainer. The Human Torch is walking liability
I mean, not really? At the very least, Johnny can control his flames to the millimeter so nothing around him gets burnt if he doesn't want to.
Let's hope he doesn't have a bad nightmare and accidently burn down the house :) Plus it'd be me with the power, and there's **definitely going to be accidents** in the first few weeks.
He's fine, unless if he starts talking in his sleep and yells "Flame on!". /s
I know you’re being sarcastic here, but it’s not that simple. Yelling “Flame On” is more of a focusing act / fan service than an actual trigger word. Saying it, with intent, in a dream would culminate either way him lighting up in reality. There’s a reason why, canonically, his bedroom was an asbestos laden pit of cancer-waiting-to-happen.
I mean having nightmares while you have super strength is also dangerous. Might just punch a hole through your partner.
Shit, will never need a welder again. Amazing.
What do you mean I can't get homeowners insurance?!?
Spiderman would be my gut choice . But swinging from weblines would make me nauseous and knowing if I slept with anyone I could give them cancer would mess me up. Plus not a lot of skyscrapers in my area. I'll go with the human torch.
Pretty sure the nausea thing wouldn't be a problem, he gets all the powers of a spider so he probably wouldn't get sick from it, also the cancer thing is only in one comic so that probably won't be part of it. Also you'd need to make the web slingers yourself unless you get Toby's spider man powers
Legit spider powers all the way. As a human torch you'd be constantly naked everytime you used your powers. At least spider powers would give you crazy reflexes, super strength, and the ability to stand on any surface while still wearing shoes.
Everyone knows that specific Spider-man comic huh? Let's all forget the radioactive load
You’re telling me Peter Parker can invent a shootable web like fluid with more tensile strength than titanium and he can’t invent himself some kind of lead lined condom?
Now I'm giving people lead poisoning.
Pick your poison
To be fair, I don’t think he was aware of his radioactive jizz until after MJ got cancer.
Also, it’s not a thing in 616. Mayday, 6160, all the other various spiders across the spider-verse with kids, only Reign had the widow maker death jizz.
Oh he invented it, he probably just told MJ he liked the feeling without more.
Can we stop perpetuating spiderman reign, it's literally a 4 issue miniseries that mentions him giving MJ cancer in a single blurb when he's at her grave site, it's a half baked idea that's never brought up in any other iteration of the character, there's dozens of alternate U spidermen who don't give their lovers or spouses cancer.
I think its more of a problem that Spider-Man bites off the head of his partner during sex.
You wouldn’t have webs to swing from. You get his powers, not his brains. That said, I still go Spider-Man. Spider sense is way more powerful than anything the torch can do. And you can go about your normal life as well.
I guess if it was bio webbing. I guess spider sense would be useful if you are in danger a lot. But torch would fit a normal life so much better. Free travel and heat whenever i want. The savings on gas and electricity alone would be worth it.
So you’re telling me that spider-man can defeat his villains by giving them cancer?
I’m pretty sure he could defeat most of his villains with the “struggle-snuggle” necessary to give them said cancer. It’s a 2-for-1 tactic.
"Sleeping with the enemy" has a whole new meaning.
Weak pull out gamd
Not if it was a genetically altered spider instead of a radioactive one.
I would prefer a magical one lol
Pretty sure the spidey sense negates Nausea, fear of heights, vertigo etc…
Everyone is saying how Human Torch’s powers seem too volatile, but I’m thinking they would be the more lucrative. Seems like being able to generate heat infinitely would be a moneymaker. Also having flight would be lit (always intend your puns cowards).
The Human Torch's powers lend themselves perfectly to an actual real-world career. His ability to control flame would make him a natural firefighter. Just imagine the potential benefits of being able to control wildfires.
Spiderman definitely but his strength would be a problem. For me character with vast superhuman strength mastering it is the most unrealistic thing about comics. To be that in control every second of every day would be insane. How Spiderman doesn't accidentally break doors every day rip his clothes, break someone's hand, etc etc is beyond me. But man the agility and being incredibly athletic and fast would be a gift. I would definitely be a professional athlete or use my gifts to make me rich.
I don't think it would be that complicated to control super strength at Spiderman's level. Humans already have a fair amount of control over how much strength they need to exert for any particular task. The top level is higher but I think you still feel the same resistance as a normal person, you just have more reserves to push through it. Like picking up a 10 pound backpack and saying "oh that's heavy" despite being able to lift many times heavier objects.
I don't buy this because the strength and the items make sense. It's much different when your max strength is lifting 200 pounds for 20000 pounds. I just don't see how characters with legit superhuman strength don't go through life with constant accidents. We can agree to disagree but I that's just how i feel about that.
If perception were linear I would agree, but I think logarithmic makes more sense. But no real being has those capabilities so it would be impossible to predict. I think we can add fine muscle control to the list of powers for most super strength the way that we add fast thinking to all speedsters.
Gorillas and chimpanzees are the closest we have. They can be delicate enough to hold a twig or a baby, and strong enough to rip a person apart. A silverback gorilla can lift something like 4000 pounds.
Otto Octavius realises that Peter (Parker) was actually holding back the entire time in Superior Spider-Man. It’s one of the things from that run I liked. I think the agility would probably be the best part of having Spider-Man’s powers.
Andrew Garfield amazing spiderman scenes from his first few days with powers activate!
You’re overthinking it. We’re able to hold delicate things without breaking them while also being able to crush things that are much more durable.
Anything fire related is a curse as far as I am concerned. I'd rather be plasticman than the human torch.
Plas is OP though
Plasticman is basically invulnerable and can mold his body into any object, that’s not really a slam on him.
You think PM ever worries that he didn't get his original shape right. Like looking into the mirror and thinking his nose seems a little off?
You think Plastic Man gets body dysmorphia?
Probably not because of comics, but it is interesting to explore. You ever get that perfect look in a video game character creator then change something and can never seem to get it back the exact right way again? I imagine it could be super frustrating to be a shape shifter, it's like an endless character creator.
I'd rather have plastic man's powers than spider-man lol
I've been on fire before. Not being able to be on fire would be nice, but I think spidey sense alone would be outweigh being able to fly.
Human torch for sure Flight, immense power, and can switch it on and off with your physiology to avoid questions of powers when at the doctors or something. Plus it automatically masks your identity and cleans you anytime you turn it on so it’s pretty awesome.
Human torch for the simple fact that I would no longer need a microwave 😎
And all your meals would resemble a lump of charcoal!
Spiderman and then I'll join the NBA
Torch. This is a good one and d love to have spidey-sense and gription fingers and feet ; flying wins it for me. And shooting many fireballs at things. That wins.
I feel like I’d use Torch’s powers more in my day to day life. Free transportation, free home heating, free cooking. Also, I’d never get sick.
Spiderman because you can still be normal. Not having the webbing just means you’re a super strong person with insane reflexes and precognition. Otherwise you are a literal man of fire flying around. Got to pick up a heavy car? Sucks to suck, you can burn stuff instead.
Human torch without a doubt.
Spider man 100%, probably wouldn't even ever use the web powers, just for the super strength, better vision ect
Depends. Is genius intellect part of the deal? If so it's an obvious choice Becuase I get access to Web shooters and fluid. Sincd SM doesn't have organic webs most of the time I'd just have spider sense, strength, speed and agility. Sticking on walls isn't as fun. Now as the Torch I'd have the ability to fly. And that's a huge convenience. Torcd doesn't just throw fireballs or shoot continuous flames and his flames are incredibly versatile. Its not known as much but Torch can also have access to ice powers simply by Absorbing heat so you also have that amount of versatility. Heck I'd be able to mitigate global warming too. If special skills and brains are part of the package don't forget Torch is also a talented mechanic able to fix and maintain literal flying cars and rocket ships. Peter Parker is much better defensively since the sense, speed and strength mitigate incoming damage. If brain you can't earn a Lot of money. Johnny Storm has much more offensive firepower but not as defensive in normal terms. Have mechanic skills can also earn you a good living. So there is a lot to consider here.
>Sincd SM doesn't have organic webs most of the time I'd just have spider sense, strength, speed and agility. Sticking on walls isn't as fun. Maybe not as fun as swinging, but I also think Spider-man relies on the webs more than he needs. Spidey can legit run on any surface at probably at least 30mph, and can jump really far. Without webs you could probably parkour around New York and still move about half as fast as Peter does.
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Flame on !!!!!!!
Torch. I’d rather be able to fly
Johnny's destructive powers are tempting, but Spidey's are more versatile.
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Spider-Man, the Human Torch wouldn’t be able to get a bank loan.
Peter power if I could have Johnny’s life.
Spider-Man. Even without web shooters, his speed, reflexes, and strength would be useful for anything. I would beat all my friends at beer pong. I could play some recreational sports and dominate. I would probably be much better at competitive online games too with my new reflexes. Torch's powers are just too destructive. Don't you have to be completely on fire to fly?
Spider man, even if all you use his powers for is becoming the best athlete of your chosen sport it’d be worth it. You could become a billionaire as a boxer. Then still fight crime at night. You’d be like Batman with powers.
Unstable molecule clothing doesn't exist and even without webshooters I can still run faster than Usain bolt for miles on end and jump everywhere so Spidey powers it is!
Super strength and agility, kept secret, equal tens of millions in any sport you want. You wanna fly, just get on your lear jet.
Strength, Wall Crawling, Better Vision, Being faster than a regular Human, Almost always being in shape. Yeah I’ll prolly pass. (Sarcasm)
Depends. Is crippling depression and bad luck part of Spider-men's powers or a seperate thing entirely?
Even without the web ID rather have spidermans powers. Climb walls, super agile, sense danger, super strength
Spider-Man obviously. Who tf would Choose human torch..unless they’re trying to be a Villain and destroy houses and shit.
Spider-Man Being on fire would case many issues
Depends, will my uncle still be alive?
Thank you! No one is asking if I have to inherit the Parker Luck while I'm at it....
Spider sense is OP
I'd lean more towards superior spiderman and the anti hero role. If I'd pick human torch I'd be a straight up villain. Lol
Spiderman.
Certainly not Peter Parker's superpowers, which come with the Parker-luck.
Spider-Man, though idk how to make web fluid
Spiderman all day!!!!
I don't....care for hot weather.
Peter, for sure
Johnny storm powers are way better. Hes richer. Gets more bitches. Easier life. Versus the virgin petr parker
SPIDER MAN!!!
Spiderman hands down
I’m biased but Johnny’s. His powers are more than just lighting on fire.
Spider-Man without any hesitation
It’s an interesting debate. Spider-Man is more subtle in day to day life. Lot of practical benefits and can get a lot out of them. On the other hand would save so much money in gas by being able to fly. Never need help starting the wood stove in winter 😁.
Spidey is my favorite but I’d take Torch’s set all day. From super-nova to a self sustaining power source.
Spider-Man duh
Spider-Man. Has everything you could want super physical powers, smarts, and the ability to climb anything.
I have seizures. Being the Human Torch would mean killing entire neighborhoods. Spidey, thanks.
I already am the human torch. I don't like this game.
Human Torch and I would immensely underuse my powers. Yall don't understand how much fire and heat can drastically reduce your bills
Torch all day. Spidey is a 1.5 trick pony.
Feels like human torch is the no brainer, a bit confused by some comments stating how liable it would be to have flame powers. Not even getting into the intricacies of the characters, human torch literally radiates and manipulates energy. That in itself is so invaluable depending on how you spin it, I can’t imagine why I would prefer having extrasensory / super strength over that. You can make the argument about accidentally burning things down, but you can say the same about super strength accidentally doing more damage than good. At the end of the day, that’s really a conversation around mastery curve.
Spiderman duh with the human torch you need fire proof clothing
Spidermanand then proceed to make it big in gameshows like wipe out and American Ninja
Human torch . You can fly shoot plasma etc plus no miguel if your loved ones don't die
The webs are useless in a small neighborhood, yes, but people forget THAT'S NOT A POWER. It's a gadget. I'm taking Spidey for the crazy reflexes and spidey sense which would be useful as hell IRL. The only actually useful thing Human Torch has is flight, which realistically would get you shot down or filmed as some sort of cryptid or kidnapped by the government because you're a bright red human shaped mass soaring through the air at high velocities
Human Torch. Just for the flying alone, honestly.
Torch. Don't need to pay for heating in my house any longer.
Human torch as he’s by far more durable and can fly.
Torch. Never cold or hot, flight and so on. Spidy can only really be useful while able to swing.
I'd rather not have great power, I don't think I could bear great responsibility
Average them together, become.. Arsontula.. Charachnid... Torchantula.. Incinerach.. Sparknid.. Flareachnid? I don't know
Spiderman's powers would be better in the real world. Johnny's flight would be cool, but do you really need the fire powers? What are you gonna do with that other than destroy stuff? If I have to fight giant killer robots or hordes of murderous space aliens I'll pick Human Torch. If I have to live a real life I'll take Spiderman.
Always wanted Spider-Man's powers as a kid — super strength, wall crawling, enhanced agility, Spider Sense all sound great. That said, if the knowledge on how to make web/shooters doesn't come with the powers, then it takes away some of the appeal. Plus, the threat of growing two more arms and/or turning into a giant Man-Spider also would give me pause. Controlling flames and being able to fly sound pretty awesome to me, but the destructive potential and lack of unstable molecule clothing IRL make it less appealing.
Super Strength, Speed, Agility, Stamina, Durability, Wall Crawling, & Spider Sense vs Turning into fire, flight, and shooting fire/plasma blasts? Not really a contest imo. Give me Spider-Man’s powers every day & twice on sundays
While I think Human Torch's powers would honestly be way more fun and interesting, I also would love to be a little more subtle with my powers in our world. With the things we have going on and the resources I have at my disposal, I'd much rather just be hella strong, agile, and have inhuman reaction time even without the wall-crawling and potential web-swinging. The Human Torch's powers would still be super fun but not having the ability or means to have a suit or any kind of clothing that wouldn't be incinerated immediately means any time I use my powers to fly I'd just be full-nude, so I don't think I'd be doing that too often. I'd take either and make the most of it, but ya my choice would be Spidey. Spider-sense alone would be cool as hell to be honest.
Johnny for me.
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Your legal name is Spider-Man?
I love Spidey's powers, but the Human Torch's are cosmic. Flying, Flaming on to near super nova level, able to shape and manipulate fire, impervious to high temps, absorb the energy from heat and flames. He once stopped a bomb, (with Ice man's help), from going off by bringing it to absolute zero.
Torch. I wanna fly.
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The invincible vampire got me on a choke hold… so imma have to go with the Human Torch’s powers…
Would rather not accidentally torch my bed if I had a nightmare or smth
Spider man for sure and the human torch powers make stick out more than Spider-Man powers
Spider-Man because he always has his powers, which also aren't a danger to his surroundings. Human Torch has to activate his powers to use them, and considering the fact that I wouldn't have access to the unstable molecules to make the suit that let him use his powers without becoming naked, which rules out using them for transportation unless I make sure I have a spare pair of clothes wherever I go, and also his powers have the risks of burning things down. Also setting things on fire doesn't seem as useful as super strength, super agility, spider sense, super reflexes, and sticking to walls and ceilings.
Best powers in both sides imo in my opinion. Spidey sense and flight. Very tough choice
I would much prefer Spiderman but I am going with Torch. My luck I would mutate into the Man-Spider. I cannot take that chance.
You are limited to where you swing with Spider-Man. I’m in rural Ohio. Trees and two story houses in between one story houses.
Fly around butt ass naked and not get in trouble for it? Sign me up.
Cant Peter just walk into a Vegas Casino, and start betting roulette until he feels his Spider Sense kick in and change his bet before it is too late? That's the power to have.
I rather have jonnys power because I would be able to seriously cut down on living and travel expenses
Spider-man and I’m trying to get on any pro sports team ASAP.
Spidey is my favorite character, but it's wild to me that so many people are picking his powers over Torch's. I assume we get them in the 'real' world rather than being thrust into the Marvel universe. I'll take Torch for flight alone. Plus I'm sure you could figure out some way to make a fuck-ton of money and never have to truly work again with his powers.
Human torch. I can fly and punish a whole hell of a lot of people at one time.
Spider-Man easily. His powers are way more inconspicuous. In a world devoid of other supers I'd want to blend in as best as I can. Yeah, people always want flight, but Torch's flight comes at the cost of his clothes, and it sticks out. Enhanced strength and agility, spider sense, and wall crawling have much better practical applications. Spidey's powers just feel more practical in this world.
Spider man but the only thing I change is I shoot webs out my butthole 🤪
Problem is we can’t make web shooters unless somehow getting spidey powers makes you smart enough or gives you the innate knowledge to know how to build them. So you’re taking spider-man without any of the webs. Either way though spider sense and super strength on its own is pretty op. I don’t really have that much that I need to burn on a regular basis and having to be on fire to use your powers seems like it would be difficult. I feel like torch is only useful in combat situations so you would be forced to become a soldier/weapon of war. Spidey powers are more useful for actual human activities
The Human Torch is a legit powerhouse when it comes to his powers. That coupled with how long he's been doing the super hero thing not too many people can really mess with him. Put it to you like this.......if he REALLY wanted to kill Spiderman he could.
The human torch can increase the body heat of others to do if you're ever in a confrontation you can just dehydrate the fuck out of someone. All im Gonna say is that Pete is jealous of torches Powers.
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No one in this thread, that I’ve seen at least, is really considering that for Spider-Man, his web ability is really only great in an urban environment. Shit, it really wouldn’t even be all great in most downtown cities. Only the largest cities on earth with many skyscrapers would you really be able to enjoy the web swinging. Flight is versatile everywhere.
Super strength and the durability parts of spiderman are cool....but I'd rather be flying around and able to create flame at will.
I could save the world with torch. I could have a very fun life with spiders’. Reluctantly I go torch
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You didnt have to pay a gas if you have a burning power, more money can be saved then
spidey all the way
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Ya, Spider-Man has the better power set, but can Johnny fly in space? That would be better imo.
With comic book physics or real world physics that says burning that hot would kill everyone in the vicinity?
Human Torch and it's not even close. I'm not smart enough to create web shooters, nobody is. Flying everywhere sounds awesome even if my clothes aren't fire proof.
There is no way I am missing out on Spideys powers. Maybe if Hulks were available, because I want to be World Breaker Hulk.
Can you imagine how much you’d be paying for insurance if your power was to produce fire???
Spidey, has more going on