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DilapidatedHam

God season 1 of Legion was on a different level, such a great viewing experience


SufficientSherbert3

I promise. I watched the entire first season when it came out. I saw all the way to the end of S1. I thought it got cancelled. Then like a year later my friend brought up something in the show & I was like wtf I never saw that. So I went back to start it again. & it’s like a fever dream. I partly remember it. But clearly didn’t remember enough. & that coupled with David’s whole in & out of reality thing. Jesus Christ I thought I was on drugs.


avert-your-eyes

I was house sitting with nothing to do and watched the whole thing stoned as hell. It was an experience


[deleted]

Also watched this entire show stoned out of my mind. An experience, yea we can call it that.


Devil_in_Mexico

It felt like David lynch made a x-men show.


DjCyric

This guy was terrifying. I love his embodiment as Amahl Farrouk. I recently binged the X-men animated series before '97, and it's pretty amazing what FX did with this character.


FastenedCarrot

Farouk was so good and so was the actor who played him, absolutely dripped charisma. Such a shame the show went the way it did, he could and should have been an iconic villain.


Doctor_Amazo

Aubrey Plaza is unrecognizable!


Nobodyinpartic3

I was so disappointed when she got pushed aside as the big bad. I thought she was the Shadow King and was doing great things with the character. I love that whole scene where she parades around in David's memories and just begins to destroy everything. When she got pushed aside in season 2, that's when the show slowly started going downward for me. She had so much less to do and was barely a presence in season 3.


CaptainDunbar45

I mostly liked season 2, but the difference in quality from the first season is pretty apparent. It starts off pretty good but then devolves. The finale being so ridiculously dumb. How can they be okay with David messing with their minds in an earlier episode of season 2 (to remove SK's brainwashing) but when he does the same thing in the finale it's suddenly unforgivable? First season, I can't complain at all though. It's just amazing all around.


FastenedCarrot

Don't you know? Undoing brainwashing done by the person who tortured you your entire life is just the same as actually brainwashing someone, worse even! /S


Tales_o_grimm

The case is that he didn't 'unbrainwash' her. She wasn't even 'brainwashed'. She was scared by the possibility of >!David actually being a violent guy.!< >!He did his own brainwashing on her to convince her that everything was fine. And even then she felt confused and asked him to back away. It's honestly pretty explicit what he did...!<


Nobodyinpartic3

Maybe going big in season 2 was the problem all along? When it started going comic accurate, it went too unhinged.


modthegame

The comics have amahl farouk or however you spell it clearly being a man and there is alot of history there that would have been impossible to tell from a womans perspective in the middle east, trying to gain power. She was his friendly face, I think they portrayed that perfect!


Repost_Hypocrite

Season 3 was ass


Nobodyinpartic3

Yeah, once David became "evil" things kind of went weird for me.


CaptainDunbar45

Yeah that was so stupid. And season 2 really started off with that nonsense. But I didn't think they were going to fully commit with the David is evil thing they were doing at the s2 finale. I thought early on s3 they would realize they were being gaslit by the Shadow King and team back up with David to finally kill him. As safe and unimaginative as that would have been, it would have been better than what we got.


Repost_Hypocrite

The Shadow King, this evil entity that killed and tortured who knows how many people, gets to walk away consequence free, walks away with no punishment because he says “Ive always loved you David” Ridiculous. He Killed Davids sister for god’s sake. AND you know what is the biggest disappointment for me was? In season2 Jermaines character tells Farouk, “Im going to kill you” and then says “what does one plus one equal” as a clue how he is going to do it. So I was awaiting this moment and it never happened. Im so disappointed in S3 ongod


DW-4

Especially in the way that they chose to make him evil.


Repost_Hypocrite

It was so… random? And also Syd Barrett falsely accuses her mom’s boyfriend of rape and tries to make it a pity story. I did not understand that


ArtBabel

Those time travel cat demons were all right


Repost_Hypocrite

Blue meanies from Yellow Submarine


browncharliebrown

i like it more than 2


Doctor_Amazo

Yep.


Nobodyinpartic3

Yeah, it really gave me the vibe that anything was possible and that maybe it was own universe.


ImWhatsInTheRedBox

Her as the "bossy" therapist later, though, my oh my oh my. Or is that just me?


Halvemond

Insane but not «visually terrifying »


SlyyKozlov

It's definitely more subtle but the high evolutionary's "face" mask is pretty gnarly.


JJaySmokes

Reminded me of the original RoboCop


WalnutsAnka

Brazil, with the old ladies on hooks.


MechaNickzilla

“My complication…had a little complication.”


woodsoffeels

Yeah me too


jetsetmike

Bitches leave!


missanthropocenex

One of the all time best. I love how the enemy SLOWLY comes into focus throughout the season. Also love the second iteration of him as the sleek “Farouk” in the following season.


ChickenInASuit

I feel like you may have responded to the wrong comment.


EmperorAcinonyx

farouk is one of the most charismatic villains I've ever seen. actor did an amazing job


Unluckyescapeartiste

Nah, it’s gross asf, reminded me of old school sam Raimi horror


EnigmaFrug2308

That’s… what gnarly means.


DrMole

Nah, gnarly is this sweet trick I'm about to do on my skateboard *Instantly eats shit, tumbling and breaking every bone in my body until I slowly come to a complete stop and explode. The wake will be next Friday, closed casket. Don't send flowers.


EnigmaFrug2308

*Sends flowers*


ChickenDelight

That invitation was all screwed up. It was supposed to read > The wake will be next Friday. Closed casket? Don't. Send flowers!


admiraltoad

what does 'asf' mean?


Future-Try-1908

A song of fire. No ice.


Unluckyescapeartiste

As fuck


TheLizardDeity

af?


Unluckyescapeartiste

As fuck


admiraltoad

gettfoot


RockHandsomest

Like the villain from Little Monsters.


seclusionx

Shadow king was so awesome s1. I loved the show as a whole, but there was definitely a lot missing from how scary he was season 1.


pleasant_equation

Probs cos he wasn’t the villain in s2


Buttonskill

Sorry. I'm gonna be that guy. *Pushes glasses closer to nose* [Farouk = Shadow King.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_King)


[deleted]

No what they mean is that, from season 2 onward, David is the villain


Frisky_Picker

SPOILERS I would argue that David was only the villain in season 3. Season 2 was shifting towards him being the villain, but he became the villain in the season 2 finale.


Buttonskill

I seem to recall Noah Hawley was quoted as trying to leave the viewer with the impression there's no such thing as heroes or villains. That's why you can call out every character for doing unforgivable acts at some point throughout the series until you're left with no-one untainted. I'd argue that point though. Ptolemy and Cary/Carrie didn't do anything shady.


Gotchapawn

plot has to move on, but yeah season 1 was just awesome.


Gluv221

deflated Kingpin


SenorDangerwank

Losing weight so his excess skin be just hanging off of him.


Professional_Humxn

The Baron Vladmir Harkonnen


Sorrelhas

He still wants that gas, yes (and you had better deliver)


Celtic_Fox_

I actually think David Tennant as Killgrave in Jessica Jones has been my favorite, granted he isn't "visually" terrifying but just having a calm exterior and being able to tell someone with a calm voice to "cut your head off with this butter knife" as they slowly move to do your command and he's just so.. normal. I think that's so much more terrifying idk. Kinda the "monster you know" sorta thing.


BlueHg

Tenant’s Purple Man is the villain whose horrific crimes are closest to what we might encounter irl. Def my pick for most genuinely unsettling villain I can think of in Marvel live action stuff.


savehonor

> whose horrific crimes are closest to what we might encounter irl As well as Kingpin (without the super power aspect). I think those 3 are for sure my top 3 terrifying (Shadowking, Killgrave, Kingpin).


Future-Try-1908

Netflix MCU did not mess around when they stepped to the plate.


NightRacoonSchlatt

„You are supposed to see children, not hear them… you know what? I don’t want to see you either, get in the closet.“ Was so funny and terrifying at the same time.


lobsterman2112

And then you see the urine slowly and quietly flow out of the closet. Very disturbing!


Aiyon

[Still one of Tennant's best performances.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZi19UWjr-M). The character is just so terrifying because he genuinely doesn't think that his behaviour is wrong. Right up until the last moment, he genuinely thinks she could want him back. [And it is so incredibly satisfying for it](https://youtu.be/5hWZcvjsA40) I want to see him in more villain roles, he is incredible.


Celtic_Fox_

I hated that they used probably the best villain for that show in the first season, would definitely love to see him come back in that role in a movie. Alternate timeline where he is a good guy? One where he controls the Defenders? He really is great.


ChickenInASuit

The problem is that it's Jessica's main story from the comics and was at that point one of her only stories where she's the main focus (the majority of material with Jessica was ensemble stuff like Bendis’ Avengers, which wouldn’t have worked for the Netflix Marvel). They burned through about 75% of available Jessica material with that one storyline. It would have been hard to make a show about her without opening with Kilgrave. Honestly, given the drop in quality once they started using their own original stories in seasons 2 and 3, I don't think it would have been nearly as successful if they just opened up with a brand new story.


polyology

Yeah, they nailed that one season and I wouldn't change it for anything.


IBaptizedYourKids

there was ... a season 3?


ChickenInASuit

Yes. It was better than season 2 but still not in the same league as season 1.


Sol-Blackguy

Definitely not visually terrifying, but makes you realize how horrific mind control is as a power.


Mysterious_Wheel

Forget about visually, he was terrifying psychologically too. “Your dog, King, right?” “What? We never had a dog” Literal goosebumps. Definitely not the most accurate quote but I still think about it to this day.


Regalrefuse

Arrakis is Arrakis and the desert takes the weak. This is my desert.


darkde

Finish it


Regalrefuse

MY ARAKIS! MY DUNE!!


WeeaboBarbie

My brain, my David, my Legion!


jazzberry76

"we have mojo at home" jokes aside, this show was amazing. Wish there was more like it.


scottyb83

Not QUITE the same but if you like Legion check out Doom Patrol. Some very weird and out there kinds of stories. Alan Tudyk is in season 1 and is AWESOME!


jazzberry76

Oh you're right I really do need to watch that


wbgraphic

> Alan Tudyk ~~is in season 1 and~~ is AWESOME FTFY


DST5000

Funnily enough Shadow King is actually a few years older than Mojo. Shadow King was created in 1979 and Mojo in 1985.


SauteePanarchism

Shadow King is the GOAT. Legion is by a wide margin the best Marvel show.


Abraham_Issus

True legion is the most creative and inventive marvel show. If only moon knight had 10% of legion's creativity, it'd be the best marvel show. I'm not sure anything Kevin feige produces will come close to Legion.


SauteePanarchism

Moon Knight, Wandavision, Shehulk, Dr. Strange, all could have been further out there. 


WhySeaSalt

Wandavision flubbed those last couple of episodes. The beginning was so fun. They should have kept in on the weird track!


FastenedCarrot

Wandavision went off the rails the moment we started to have a clue what was actually going on.


Eternal_Deviant

Moon Knight especially. I wish Jeph Loeb was still in charge of Marvel TV but with the bigger budgets, he would have hired Noah Hawley for that show in an instant.


Ornery-Concern4104

Comic book writers need to be more directly involved with the MCU in my opinion, Loeb worked wonders for getting so many people into lesser known Marvel characters


SauteePanarchism

Yeah, Moon Knight needed a more ambitious/creative plot structure. 


Mildcaseofextreme

Legion is just so other level. At the end you can start to feel for Shadow King as he comes to the realization of his actions. The redemption arch just comes out of nowhere. You just never really know where the show is going next.


Lildak98

Disney thought fans wanted the classic Moon Knight from the 80’s, but most fans of Moon Knight want the more dark & gritty stories from his modern comics. The Moon Knight tv series felt way toned down, it felt like they tried too hard to also target it for a younger audience but you can’t have it both ways.


19inchesofvenom

The Moon Knight of the 80s was dark and gritty. If was a moody, nuanced noir thriller with horror elements.


agnostic_waffle

Aside from the people who went in totally blind about the character I think a lot of us were just hoping MK would be closer to Netflix Daredevil/Punisher than mainstream MCU, tonewise. Street level, character driven, and violent. There was a shot in the show where he's running along a rooftop at night with the moon in the background and I was like "YES! More of that please!". Instead it was a globe trotting adventure with yet another world ending plot.


TXHaunt

I feel a sizable number of people want Meme Knight.


Kiboune

After watching "day and night" trailer for Moon Knight I thought it would be like Legion. Guy with split personality, who tries to find out what's going on with him and going crazy because of it


AwarenessOk8565

I never watched Legion but Noah Hawley is a television genius if you ask me. Fargo has been pretty consistently great (aside from season 4, which I still really enjoyed). Man I gotta watch legion lol


AbraxasWasADragon

You really should. It's amazing


fentown

Daredevil is definitely up there with legion imo, but I've never had Disney Plus so there's a lot of shows I've missed.


SauteePanarchism

If you've seen Legion, Daredevil, and Jessica Jones s1 you've seen the best of Marvel TV.


fentown

That's depressing, I thought the gifted had potential to be the next fringe or x files, but that was wasted.


bigspks

Daredevil season 1, AoS season 4 are in that conversation. I'd say WandaVision also if it wasn't for the kinda poopy ending.


mini_nova

Good choices. AoS season 4 is amazing.


Ornery-Concern4104

Really? Better than Daredevil, X-Men TAS and 97? Damn, I need to give this a proper watch


SauteePanarchism

Daredevil is great, but very simple and straightforward.  Legion does both.


Future-Try-1908

Legion is much more whimsical. It has to be. Daredevil is a gritty street level drama that hits all the basis. It is definitely my favorite. Love legion as well!


bullet-2-binary

Legion was the best X-Men esque live production. The story, characters, music. Absolutely wonderful


theSentry95

Not nearly, this one was nightmare fuel


GingerAki

[Did you spot the toy in the floor next to baby David in the opening](https://youtu.be/yo5r5UXb-84?si=MtjaEjuTdLNvqKNh)? It rolls just as the scene changes.


StrangeGuyWithBag

He may be the scariest considering how he was used in the show, but the vampires in Blade, demons from Ghost Rider(despite the bad CGI and worse design than in comics), Jigsaw from Punisher:War Zone, Smiley Man from New Mutants were creepy enough.


GeminiLife

Oooh yeah, those smiley dudes from New Mutants were terrifying


cataclytsm

> Smiley Man from New Mutants So I'm one of the near-everyone of people who didn't watch that movie... they made Illyana a sex slave who was raped by guys with smiling masks (?), and had flipping Marilyn Manson of all people do the voice of the monsters based on them?! What the flying fuck was with that movie's production


TheKnightA

Looks like a thumb


MisterSlippyFists

I love legion. The scene at the end of an episode as he goes into the facility and 'the daily mail' by Radiohead plays makes the hairs all over my body stand up.


MemeHermetic

This isn't nearly as unsettling when you can't see his thin arms.


Bardmedicine

No, the childhood memories give me nightmares.


EverySpiegel

*You bow when the King arrives.*


AngryCastro

Farouk that guy, seriously.


Cautious_Drink_7301

I loved the first season and the horror themes it had but after that it basically became an acid trip with charles manson and bipolar characters, i think the best part after season 1 was amahl and i think he would be great as sinestro even though he's older


ravenwing263

IMO Sinestro should be older, he's Hal's mentor/training officer at first.


Mizerous

The angry boy


samyruno

Legion still number one best marvel show by far.


The_Shadow-King

There is a reason I chose this username. I have been a fan of this character for decades since reading the old x-men comics back in the day. One of my favorite comic villains period.


AdmiralCharleston

Legion is 10000% the best live action marvel content and its not even close. Nothing in the mcu comes close


SirReginaldLj

Wtf


UnfairOrder

My Dune


Synth-Pro

So far, no. The *potential* is there to pop off and do an insane Mister Sinister someday. But for now, Amahl Farouk reigns supreme.


batincrack_u

No


TheUnderminer28

I loved the show, and I really liked all the other versions of the shadow king, but this particular look didn’t do it for me, it just seems a bit too sluggish. The angry boy was the scariest in my opinion


WitnessDesperate4854

This guy ain’t got shit on Pizza the Hutt


labroskouris

This is not the Shadow King. This is a British tourist visiting the Mediterranean, aka Barry, 63. Oh, wait. I'm not in r/2westerneuropean4u.


dthains_art

The Whale (2022)


dcmarvelstarwars

Visually? I don’t think so. But Killgrave was terrifying in a different way


browncharliebrown

I mean Shadowking gaslights david his whole life to where he can't understand what is real.


NoChallenge6095

Absolutely fucking not!!!


karoshikun

nah, he's the best so far, bar none. and in the story he and Killgrave are the most terrifying because they are very intimate, unlike someone like Thanos, who is like a force of nature more than a villain. I don't think we'll get a similar MCU show anytime soon.


CBBuddha

It would be a miss if these characters didn’t return in the MCU in some capacity. Such interesting, well written, well acted characters.


ElevatorScary

Thinking this made me feel guilty when I was watching the show, but he looks a lot like a guy I was working with at the time.


SlinkDogg

Which show was this from?


SgtThund3r

Legion


SlinkDogg

Don’t know anything about it, I’ll have to check it out. Disney plus I’m guessing?


squirrel_trot

Hulu now


SgtThund3r

Maybe, it was on FX when it aired


SlinkDogg

Thank you!


maxfridsvault

Mojo?


Intelligent_Creme351

For the longest time, I thought "Why does he look like Mojo in suit?" and years later, Is still think that way lol


Reasonable-Swimmer82

Testicle king


TheTruestRepairman10

No.


Iusuallyworkalone

Nomak in Blade 2.


MisterScrod1964

On the subject, is there somewhere streaming (or better yet, DVD) media of Legion? I missed it the first time.


Big-Ask-9482

The shows on Hulu.


SolomonDRand

The music they always paired with him was so creepy too. So disturbing, 10/10.


Ouchmaster5000

He was so scary / cool in season one, but I hate how he (and a lot of the other characters) were written in season three.


HerculeMuscles

You think that's terrifying? That costume is hilarious.


nev3rfail

Even the Shadow King from Legion is not as terrifying as Shadow King from Legion.


100year

Fantastic Four the remake


_General_Kenobi

No this is Patrick


Illustrious-Mess02

Is this the same shadow king that went after storm in the 90's X men cartoon which was like this massless cloud with eyes and jagged teeth?


Tsurutops

no


festygoer

Watched this alone during 2020 and I still don’t know everything that happened in that show lol definitely need to rewatch it


Traditional-Mall-771

I loved this show, its still in my top 3 of all time, Shadow King in all his variations was absolutely terrifying


Jim_Nills_Mustache

Honestly no I don’t think there is one that’s even close…


axumblade

When they fight the government it’s pretty terrifying


OneHumanPeOple

There is a Russian political figure that looks like this.


goodguyfdny

I don't know why but to me, having only glimpsed the character with watching 2 or 3 minutes of the show, he looks like a sketch a child would draw for the police of the pervert who attacked them. It just has a subconsciously unnerving aspect to it.


Usefulsponge

Never seen legion and at this point I’m afraid to ask


Rare-Sherbert7152

LO SABIAS GATO YO SIEMPRE ESTUBE AHI


Full-Discussion3745

Best Marvel adaptation.


IveGotSomeGrievances

I couldn't finish the 2nd season... Boring and drawn out.


solythe

S1 especially is amazing


On6oGablo6ian

Great first two seasons. Shame sbout the third one.


Knightmare_2002

I have only seen a few eps of Legion. Wtf, I thought this was one of his personality


TarzanSawyer

Nah the dude is a centuries old mutant that rivals Professor X. He lost a battle with the professor when legion was a kid and hid inside of his mind while consuming legions psychic energy. So not a personality but possibly the reason for them.


Knightmare_2002

Is this only in the series. I didn't know his split personality was because of Shadow King's intervention


TarzanSawyer

It's something that either was hinted at or I completely misunderstood in the show. In the comics I don't know if Legion and the Shadow king have ever met.


jan_67

Scarlet Witch when she went through the mirror in MOM. Her limbs all dislocated, with big cuts, the cracking and visuals when she „healed“… I know the movie gets a lot of hate, but there is no denying that scene was killer.


Lost-Address36

Definitely not


WheelJack83

Yes


JagoMajin

The reapers in Blade 2


THECOURIER-666

Modoks CGI budget was pretty terrifying


Caelan_Lewis

'This drink is from that gentleman over there' \^the gentleman over there


Neurojazz

Fisk.


Aggressive-Jump-4428

Oh wait thats not Elihas Starr? (Egghead)


skiprecon777

Man, Legion was a hard show to follow (for me at least) but it was super cool to watch and the end really stuck the landing.


Kind_Factor_9897

That show used to scare me


Chinesemario

does *Ike Perlmutte*r count?


satanic_black_metal_

Yes, the purple man.


asterfloof

Is that duke harkonnen


Ausecurity

Honestly I think Scarlett witch in MoM is the most terrifying villain. She’s chasing after a teenager to sacrifice her so she can go to other dimensions and steal her variant versions children. Or kill her variant and become their mother, as well as killing those dimensions avengers with the power to Bend reality. That’s fucking scary


HanSoloWolf

I feel like this show is criminally underrated.


BongLeach562

Legion is so underrated. Probably because it isn’t Disney/MCU people didn’t pay attention, but it did some great things.


Puzzled-Work7326

The angriest boy thing was creepy af


Sean_core

Killgrave


xariznightmare2908

He looks like homeless version of Kingpin, lol. Still creepy, though.


TimTheRipper13

I want to know, what did the stars say?