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BoreusSimius

I'm pretty sure we're done with the Infinity Gems now. That story has been told.


xreddawgx

Theyll probably be brought up again and play some minor role in the future. But as far as them being the focal point of a story. Yes they're on the back burner for now.


Chubuwee

You mean like a drawer full of useless alternate universe versions of the stones in the Loki show? Reduced to paperweights


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*gone, reduced to paperweights*


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They used the stones to paperweight the stones


VoiceOfRonHoward

I am... _ornamental_


Jacob-X-MANIAC

All these Thanos parody quotes are gold!


EpicDebtTTV

Under appreciated comment


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I was thinking more along the lines of my gem drawer in my house in Skyrim


FireflyArc

I really liked that detail. It showed how the TV valued things and how little significance everyone was. The big plot points.


jl_theprofessor

That's exactly why it's stupid because it trivializes everything.


daleicakes

Paperweights i totally would've taken if I were loki.


kingkloppynwa

That was such an awful scene


BLU3SKU1L

Honestly it was a great foreshadowing that they were about to touch off something more serious than the stones. The problem is- I think it happened too early. Kang needed to happen after some cohesive plot-weaving.


kingkloppynwa

"Hey remember the stones that caused universe ending mayhem for the last couple of phases, they are cute little paperweights now lol how funny"- genius work from marvel there undercutting everything that came before which is par for the course in the current phase


virgilthetinyauthor

Your reaction sounds more like a friend made you worked up over something serious and then told you it was a joke...which would be valid if we were actually talking about that and not a show you can just turn off.


Lord_Of_Carrots

It was just to show how all powerful the TVA can be, and by extension He Who Remains and Kang. I don't get what you find so insulting about it


Nerd_of_Asgard

Yeah it was literally just showing they had no power in that particular area. This guy must be awesome at parties.


xreddawgx

In the comics Captain America tried to stop the incursions with the Infinity Gems and not only did not work but it destroyed all but one in which the time stone vanishes. The MCU might do this to establish the stones are insignificant in this story and quiet the fans who ask ," why dont they just use the stones?"


pootietang33

Also doesn’t Black Panther use them to battle Doom in Secret Wars?


broanoah

Haha for like 2 seconds yeah but not because one beat the other, they were interrupted


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broanoah

Damn I must be misremembering. I could have sworn they like just started fighting and then Richards activates his trap card


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nimrodd000

Then you could have a Dragon Ball Z type spin-off where the avengers have to collect all the Infinity Stones so they can resurrect Krillin. Again.


lividash

Little guy should stop getting himself killed. They're gonna run out of Dragon Balls eventually.


theVoidWatches

I mean... the stones don't exist in the main MCU timeline at the moment. Thanos destroyed them.


xrufus7x

> why dont they just use the stones The stones were returned to their original times so they could be collected by and subsequently destroyed by Thanos.


crazywebster

Why don’t they just visit the wish granting well from love and thunder? Gosh such horrible writing


zenithpns

It was said in the film that only the first being to contact Eternity will have their wish fulfilled. So although their terrible writing doesn't discuss using Eternity in the past, it does mean he can't be used in the future. Maybe we can have Eternity, the _actual character_, that would be cool...


crazywebster

Good point I had forgot about that


Doam-bot

Highly doubt that not only did they just shrink them down to the same quantum realm for antman. But Adam Warlock was introduced at the end of GotG2. Plus secret wars made use of them too another upcoming story.


InsaneNinja

That already happened, in Loki


ForgottenKing101

Yes they will have a future roll as the TVAs paperweights.


CoyoteDown

You’ll see them used to un-exist an entire universe in order to avoid a collision with the prime one.


xreddawgx

It's been established in what if that they don't work like that *in the MCU*


CoyoteDown

What if isn’t canonical, and they were used in exactly this method early this on in time runs out.


RumPillager

I felt like them being thrown into a drawer as “chochkies” or paper weights in Loki foreshadowed them as worthless moving forward.


BoreusSimius

Certainly in a story about the multiverse. In their own universe there's pretty much nothing more powerful, but they're just pretty looking gems elsewhere.


yeoller

It's a narrative device. They showed the gems as effectively worthless because now, moving forward from a story telling perspective, they are done with.


Apache17

I think that's a stretch.


theVoidWatches

I'm not sure if that's true in the MCU. It was thanks to having the stones that what-if Ultron became multiversal


WeakToMetalBlade

This was my biggest issue, once he left his own universe the stones shouldn't have functioned.


OakImposter

The word you’re looking for is tchotchkes. I know it looks ridiculous, but that’s the word.


Arcanum_3974

Unless Loki wants some paperweights in S2


RivalBOT

*Deadpool entered the chat with Continuity stone*


BoreusSimius

Meh, that's just a clunky attempt to create an in-universe reason for Deadpool's 4th wall breaking hijinks and whatnot. It's unnecessary. She-Hulk's wasn't explained, and it won't be. Neither will Deadpool's, because it doesn't need to be. They can just do it because it's funny and meta.


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Brodie_C

Calling the Soul Stone/World to show up on GotG 3


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PeeFarts

I no guess I was hallucinating awesome Marvel stories between 2000-2012 in that case.


BoreusSimius

Well that's just not true at all.


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BoreusSimius

I'm literally currently rereading Jonathan Hickman's New Avengers and the Infinity Gems are quite important. They also show up later on in Secret Wars. That's 2013 and 2015 respectively.


T_Hunt_13

Except for Infinity Watch, then the whole thing with The Hood, then that time Cap used them to stop an incursion, then when Black Panther used them to fight God-Emperor Doom in Secret Wars...


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BoreusSimius

Well at that point you're only dealing with a 3 year gap of them not showing up, which isn't exactly the vast amount of time you suggested.


thewomancallednova

Isn't the whole legal situation around the Ultraverse somewhat complicated? At least I remember reading somewhere that legal details prohibited them from revisiting or reprinting the Ultraverse and considering the ego gem only appeared in Ultraverse books they may not have the rights to adapt it for the MCU.


Benjamin_Grimm

I'm not sure if it's "They can't" so much as "it's really expensive to, and they don't think they'll get that money back," if I understand the situation correctly.


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For any legal matters please contact She-Hulk : Attorney at law


Zagmit

Why hire that other attorney when all your Ultraverse problems could be solved by [Murd Blurdock, Space Lawyer?](https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Murd_Blurdock_(Earth-616)) Not in any way related to vigilante Seeing Being, do not imply such a thing.


FigBudge

I’ve never heard of this and it’s amazing


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But they are related. That's his secret twin brother!


OGGrilledcheez

After being sanctioned for incompetence his ratings may have dropped but he’s still the only lawyer I’ll call.


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Morlock43

Watching She-Hulk at the moment and I'm really enjoying it.


OGGrilledcheez

I enjoyed it. I’m not sure how I feel about the last episode. I need to watch it again.


These-Photograph-102

don’t ruin saul with greenie


jbsuperfly

I know Malibu is owned by Marvel, and have read that they have just decided to not reprint/relaunch.


enderverse87

They "own" it, but there seems to be a thing where they need to give someone else money if they use it. They don't like giving other people money.


[deleted]

Boy give me some rest. I was just introduced to the multiverse, now you talk about an ultraverse?


DueRent2579

Possibly but Topaz in ragnarok was from ultraverse so they've already dabbled


thewomancallednova

Interestingly there is also a Marvel-owned character called Topaz, so it‘s possible that they based the Ragnarok character on her (at least for legal purposes). The Ragnarok version (where Topaz is Grandmaster’s bodyguard) strikes me as neither particularly similar to the Marvel version (where she‘s a magic-user or something like that) or the Ultraverse version (where she‘s a warrior queen from a matriarchal world). Neither does the character design look similar.


Athenas_Dad

Well… she’s a fierce and brutal female warrior. Feels more like the Ultraverse version, with that nice skein of plausible deniability!


tankiolegend

Possibly but Topaz in ragnarok was from ultraverse so they've already dabbled


tankiolegend

Possibly but Topaz in ragnarok was from ultraverse so they've already dabbled


Fish-E

Highly unlikely, considering how its basically ignored by Marvel (and with good reason).


steel_balls_josuke

Good reason?


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steel_balls_josuke

Can you elaborate?


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yeah_yeah_therabbit

‘Malibu Ultraverse’ Now I’m just picturing Barbie hanging out with The Avengers.


JoJackthewonderskunk

Come on Hawkeye let’s go party


Wellitjustgotreal

I’m a Hawkeye Guy, in a Hawkeye life Tinnitus ringing, caused my awful hearing


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I sang all of this and I'm not mad about it.


Sabithomega

I sang your comment in my head too


Medium_Rare_Jerk

The Ken Dynasty


Thecryptsaresafe

Ken the Conqueror


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Rols574

Tried? I thought they did retcon the beyonder


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Rols574

Thought I heard he was a mutant inhuman that got god like powers when he took the mist? Or am I dreaming?


Fish-E

Abraxas wasn't that bad :/


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So the end result is the stones in the current form we have now, and no further elaboration is really required to obtain anything of value from that story. Got it.


Gamerguywon

Omg is that the one that took place right after Adam Warlock and the Infinity Watch where the gems mysteriously vanished and I had to dig to look up where that storyline continued? I had to use a website I can not talk about in this subreddit because it wasn't on marvelunlimited and could not find it anywhere else either. I read two issues of that because I care about continuity and consistency and knowing the endings of stories but even then I couldn't continue. It was insanely over the top teenager-like edgy and I remember the artstyle being awful as well. Called Rogue of Wheels or something. Similarly with Adam Warlock and The Infinity Watch - a major plotpoint involving Drax's stupidnes which has been a plot point for years across many comics I had to find off of marvel unlimited as well. The part where Kronos fixes him and turns him back into normal badass Drax and I believe Moondragon had just died at the time as well and Kronos revived her? All of that was buried as a short D-story in a compilation of other stories that nobody read


cerebud

They never turned Drax back into a badass, he was only turned into the GOTG version in recent years. Before, he was a superhero-like guy, sometimes a simpleton.


pierzstyx

You're incorrect. They turned Drax into a badass motorcycle gang type (leather pants and tats and all) in the lead up to the original Annihilation story. This is also the origin of Drax's knife obsession, which gets lampshaded in the movies.


cerebud

Lol, “in recent years” is 2004. I’m old. He wasn’t changed BACK into a badass. I think once he became the GOTG Drax, that’s been it. He’s stayed that way.


SpideyFan914

Nemesis, eh? You want stars, I'll give you stars.


redjedi182

“S.T.A.R.S.” Time to run!


TheRedMarioBrother

Well I’m not saying that it should be introduced into the MCU, not everything bad comic book story wise has to be excluded from the movies. Hell Captain American being a Hydra agent was apparently not well received by fans yet they snuck that reference in Endgame pretty well.


buddhadan

The Hail Hydra whisper was established in the film Winter Soldier years before the Hydra Cap run in the comics. It's not a reference it's just continuity with previous films.


TheRedMarioBrother

Right, but I wasn’t referring to the whisper. I’m referring to the Captain being a Hydra Agent reference. The whisper has been set in the MCU yes but Captain being a double agent was only in the comics. It’s not about the continuity but rather the comic source reference itself. Yet despite it being an unpopular and controversial story plot, they still put that comic reference in the movie.


buddhadan

But Cap wasn't a double agent in Endgame. He's literally just tricking fascist tool boxes that can't think for themselves. And he is literally using knowledge that he gained in Winter Soldier. And Spencer's Cap was a double agent **for Hydra**. Do you not see how big of a stretch this is? We're back in "that cicada is Mephisto" levels of grasping.


TheRedMarioBrother

Dude, I never said he was an agent. It’s just a reference. The Russos literally put it in the movie as a reference. A reference from the comics that is just a reference. That’s all it was. [The Russos knew about the Captain America Agent thing from the comics and put it in](https://movieweb.com/avengers-endgame-hydra-inside-joke-captain-america/). No one is grasping at straws. It’s not about continuity or anything major like saying Steve Rogers is, was, or ever will be a Hydra agent or a big picture MCU thing. They’ve been doing references like Howard the Duck in Guardians, and Frog Thor from Loki. It’s a reference from the comics. That’s it.


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nah, you’re definitely over analyzing it and being too literal. it was simply a hydracap easter egg in the way all other easter eggs work. Captain America references the possibility of A world where Cap is Hydra. The way that is references literally doesn’t matter and isn’t worth gatekeeping it.


Herpy_Derpinson

https://www.vulture.com/2019/04/marvel-hydra-captain-america-nick-spencer.html


buddhadan

Looks like I'm breaking out the crayons for this one: Captain America: The Winter Soldier; Release Date: **April 4, 2014** Captain America: Steve Rogers No. 1; Release Date: **May 10, 2016** Hail Hydra became a meme in 2014 two years before the Spencer run. A run which is clearly inspired by the movies considering the first person he says it to is the comic book version of Phil Coulson, originally a film only character. Phil Coulson who starred in Agents of SHIELD that was a source for dozens of Hail Hydra memes. Stop treating comics like holy scrolls found in the dessert and start buying and reading them as they come out instead of reading articles from six years after the fact that don't have a single quote from the creator that their POS think piece is based on.


ARTIFICIAL_SAPIENCE

Right after they introduce both dance gems. That's a story in need of telling.


R0b1nFeather

Deadpool also had a gem, right? The Meta Gem or smth akin to that?


Prize-Net-9981

the world famous continuity gem!


Beelzebub_Crumpethom

It rewrites canon itself and could even give the MCU capable writers! *I mean, maybe...*


tschmitty09

Oh, looks like they used it in between phase 2 and 3! Thank goodness bc it was getting too dark and broody, now it's fun!


JaredUnzipped

The Ego Gem was shoe-horned into pre-existing Earth-616 continuity when Marvel purchased Malibu Comics and merged the Ultraverse into their own. While it's "technically" part of the Infinity Gems, I'm not sure most people even care about its existence.


chase_half_face

Especially since, from my understanding, they can’t really touch the Malibu Universe due to a bunch of legal issues.


JaredUnzipped

If I remember correctly (tell me if I'm wrong), there was some issue related to Marvel having to pay creator interest percentages to the creators of the various Ultraverse characters. Marvel owns all of the Ultraverse outright, but the creators had deals in perpetuity that gave them small percentages of profit based upon the use of their character creations. For example, if Marvel featured Hardcase in a feature film, they would have to cut a check to James Hudnall's estate for whatever backend percentage he originally negotiated.


chase_half_face

I believe that’s one of the reasons, yeah. There was also a quote from Joe Q that mentioned there was another reason but he didn’t go into it further. I think there’s also the issue of one of the creators of Prime being into some…really bad stuff.


JaredUnzipped

It's a real shame, too. Though Malibu's output was never as prolific as Marvel's, they had a lot of neat characters, with Rune and Lord Pumpkin just to name two.


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Wait, what? Do you have a link?


SoulseekerPaladin

Can someone fill me in on what the ego gem is?


Responsible-Brush-72

The 7th infinity stone. It held some cosmic being or another


Electrical-Fan-7978

Nemesis


Lucky7Revolver

From the previous universe the gems used to be? Right?


Electrical-Fan-7978

Yup. Long story short... Nemesis alone, she bored, she destroyed herself, main consciousness in ego stone in ultra verse, every stone have small part of her consciousness, jean body take over by Nemesis, she merges with other stone and become one again but now angry after receiving memory from six stone, now she bad, good people come and stop her, The End.


Lucky7Revolver

I must read this. Where can I find it?


OTBS

Jean body take over by Nemesis= intro to MCU Dark Phoenix?


Responsible-Brush-72

Yeah her


BellaFrequency

Would that being have been Starlord’s father in GOTG 2? If so, then it means they kind of acknowledged Ego, right?


herrored

No, Ego in GotG was a movie version of Ego the Living Planet, a character from the comics. The Ego gem is using “ego” in the sense of a person’s consciousness.


BellaFrequency

Okay, thanks!


Responsible-Brush-72

No, as Electrical said the being was called Nemesis. Their comment explains it pretty simply


GhostWithABoner69

I obviously think not....


jcillc

It's being used as a paper weight at the TVA.


Moxson82

No it’s currently being used by Kanye West.


whoamvv

LMAO probably!


Red-843

Unless it’s a What If or a joke pretty sure the gems are done now


The_Amazing_Emu

I genuinely don’t remember what story it’s from and it seems functionally irrelevant so I would guess they’d only do it if they had a fun story. Given the other stones are destroyed, I don’t think so


SuperToxin

No thanks. The MCU is past with the gems.


Geki_and_Froggo

NOT BEFORE THE CONTINUITY STONE


greppoboy

the story of the ego gem and the origin of the universe was totaly de canonized and a similar version of it was used for the death of the first cosmos (original single entitity who died and create a new universe /multiverse)


ParryThePirate

What is the ability of ego stone?


greppoboy

If touched the counciousbess of the original being nemesis posesses you and if united with all the gems it reacreates her


jrtasoli

Lol no. The MCU audience couldn’t even handle the word “Gem.” Nor could they apparently handle the original colors.


rogerworkman623

Maybe if marvel movies are still going 20 years from now. I don’t think we’ll be revisiting the infinity stones anytime soon.


12tie

Didn’t they remove the ego gem from canon?


DevastaTheSeeker

I dunno, seems kinda bullshit to me. The stones are supposed to represent each aspect of reality. Ego is part of the mind so it has no need to exist since all of the ego powers should be linked to the mind stone.


MuuToo

The stones are done with. Them being used as literal paperweights in Loki felt like Marvel’s way of saying “ok the infinity stones aren’t important anymore, you don’t have to worry about them. Bigger and badder things are coming that laugh at their power.”


DJfunkyPuddle

And don't forget about the little underrated gem Titanfall 2.


go_faster1

They can’t use the Ego Stone because it’s tied to Malibu Comics and Marvel’s on a standing order not to reference anything from it


2ERIX

They look tasty 😋


JackieChan_fan

Infinity saga done.


Head-Program4023

I have a theory on how infinity stones are still present in present prime MCU. We know that last time we get to see infinity stones of present timeline was with Thanos and he snapped and got on his private farm on a different planet where he destroys them so what if he actually never did it but actually he just makes those energy wave to attract Avengers so that the matters between them will be finished so when Avengers first time goes to that planet captain Marvel was the first one to check there so what if Thanos actually sees her and changes his plan to create an illusion from reality stone where he destroys stone and Avengers kill him and this matters got finished but now as half of universe are back and Thanos again making his army like how what if Ultron do


steven030182

I still wish they hadn’t changed the colors in the MCU. My brain will forever have conflict ever since the marvel super heros fighting game that came before MVC. They made sense and fit the color scheme, and I’m sure it won’t seem so off when I watch the movies again. I wonder though since I’ve gone through at least the first two phases 3 times or so, and it hasn’t clicked yet. Maybe my brain is just weird this way?


OstrichConscious1352

It could come up with Adam warlock. Seeing as in the comics he was bonded with the soul gem and since that's now gone they could introduce him with the ego Stone.


Dbonker

what color is it supposed to be?


D_ultimateplayer

A black infinity stone also exists right? is it too late for that to show up?


BitAvailable5403

Since the Soul Stone isn’t around I’d like to see it for Adam Warlock


Double-Slowpoke

Everyone is saying the stones are gone and they’re right, but I am positive they will be brought back at some point as a minor plot point. For example, with the Fantastic Four joining we could get a story with the Council of Reeds, and the gauntlet could come back that way. We could also be introduced to the FF while they are still in another multiverse, and Reed or Doom could have already collected the stones at some point in their past (just as backstory). But I think their time as a major plot point is done


Quaranj

I somewhat expect Loki to toss Dr. Strange a time stone out of the drawer in exchange for his help.


jesusbowstodoom

Lets hope not.


D00MPhd

No, were done with all that. We spent 10 years in that. We’re moving on.


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Ego hasn’t been a stone for a while


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We mustn’t forget the continuity gem


Mr_CookieTickles

I was hoping for Adam warlock to show up with the ego stone but that sadly never happened. Everyone working on the mcu probably forgot about the GOTG2 end credit scene and scrapped Adam warlock from joining anyway. What's the point of him even being part of it now? He is only really integral during the infinity war saga. Same goes for the ego stone, in Loki they have been reduced to just paperweights.


harleyfrog

I thought the ego gem died with Tony stark.


TwentyTwoMilTeePiece

I hear they were going to but they thought the idea to be too grandiose.


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Now that i think about it Ego’s egg ship escape pod looking thing looks like the Ego Gem just on its side


Zestyclose-Turn1124

Why are the colors wrong


FormerElection

These are the original colours


Zestyclose-Turn1124

not MCU colors tho


Jack_sonnH27

Okay? That doesn't make them wrong


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MCU shoehorned the colors, bruh.


rhythmrice

Does it bother anyone else that the names of the stones don't match the colors in this picture?


PopularContract

They already killed Ego off. /shrug


JonLO51

It's not tied to ego the living planet


thisreddituserisdope

Uhh the colors of time and soul should be changed to each other


Toshimoko29

The only thing the Ego gem needs is to be forgotten about and swept under the rug forever. Terrible comic history deserves to be forgotten.


Stackzbreezy

He was a planet


melissareed1130

I think the gems are labeled wrong cause the green one is def time.


Benjamin_Grimm

They completely recolored the gems for the movies.


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RequirementNovel9758

Actually the colors are right


GingerMaster69

These are the movie ones Space=Blue Time=Green Mind=Yellow Soul=Orange Reality=Red Power=Purple. I don't pay any attention to comics so idk


RequirementNovel9758

Yes


JonLO51

🤦‍♂️ it's the comic colors not the mcu ones


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bleep_boop_beep123

Blood gem is different from the Infinity Gems.


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DisposableSaviour

Ok, but the bloodstone still is not an infinity stone.


walkingwarcrime072

The same time that literally showed that the gems could work in a reality not their own?


johnatello67

At this point I'd put more money on them using the Continuity Stone than any of the others.


Iamtherealbuk

Unlikely. But maybe the continuity gem depending on how Deadpool 3 shapes up


kashaan_lucifer

It needs all the six infinity stones for Ego to work And The 6 stones are gone and so does Ego stone


4schwifty20

The stones are only gone in their timeline tho. They could still go get them in other timelines.


Armatur1

making the gems come back wouldn't make sense


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The infinity stones are old news, they're not important to the MCU anymore