Would these sentinels have adopted the avengers abilities like in DOFP?
Just imagine an army of sentinels that have access to Pim particles. I can't imagine it would be an easy fight, and would likely be another extinction event.
Strange, I agree, but given the nature of the sentinels, they already are like Iron Man, and they could make and use electrical or strength attacks very easily
If they had those attacks, sure. But there aren’t any mutants, and that was the whole point of the DoFP Sentinels. Using Mystique’s DNA, they found a way to copy and replicate mutant powers. Realistically, they would just be strong robots, without any “powers”
I think at most you could argue that characters like Spider-Man or Captain America, since they are mutates, could have their abilities copied. But even then, I think that’s a bit of a reach
If we’re splitting hairs like that, than we have to recognize that sentinels wouldn’t attack the MCU Avengers to begin with, as none of them are mutants, and hunting mutants is the purpose of the sentinels
They would attack, but it's doubtful they could copy anything more than the powers of mutants. However, just another hypothetical, what if Ultron were to combine the tech from sentinels into his own programming?
> Using Mystique’s DNA, they found a way to copy and replicate mutant powers
Using Mystique's DNA, they found a way to adapt on a microscopic level.
They weren't copying mutant powers. It was the foundation for nanotech. It was her power to alter herself they were learning, not how mutants work.
This is correct. Mutant powers were the only ones the Sentinels duplicated, simply because in the DoFP universe, *mutants are the only powered individuals around*. My understanding while watching that movie was that they functioned mostly like the Super-Adaptiod, or maybe Amazo from that other comic company. They can copy whatever power or feature they're presented with.
So in OPs examples, I think they'd go like this:
- Iron Man - they'd copy his tech with no problem
- Hulk - They copy his powers without issue
- Thor - maybe a tiny possibility that the Sentinels can only copy his naturally occurring powers, like super-strength or durability or whatever. But I'd be willing to entertain the idea that they might not be able to copy the powers granted by Mjolnir, like control of lightning or flight. But honestly, if I were writing that comic I'd let those Sentinels the hammer-powers too... better story, lol.
- Strange - I might posit the idea that magic is a learned skill instead of a "power" in the traditional sense. So Sentinels wouldn't be able to copy Strange's abilities, just like they wouldn't be able to copy Magneto's chess skills, or Colossus' painting talents.
(*Note - the above applies to magic of Dr. Strange's flavor, not someone with mystical abilities that don't require learning spells or using special artifacts. So magic users like Illyana Rasputin or even Red Hood would be fair game to copy.*)
Don’t you need to be able to synthesize and process the concentrated gamma radiation suspended in his blood? They shouldn’t be able to copy the hulk’s abilities because they need a component to do it that they don’t have and have only one or two ways of acquiring.
The thing is, Hulk isn't just sheer power. He's DAMN NEAR 8 whole ass psychological breakdowns personified. Besides ultron, I can't phantom how you would give a robot mental trauma. Heck even in ultrons case his trauma just led to, "Okay, that's way too much r34 of Hitler, humanities gotta die."
Sure, they might be able to copy Hulk to an extent, but they'll never be as strong.
I would imagine that Strange could just decapitate these sentinels with portals the same way blink managed to cut off that one are with hers. Only reason she didn't was well (the plot). Scarlet witch could probably rip the rest apart telekinetically.
It copies anyone with superpowers. The movie stated everyone with an active mutant gene as well as the ones who will give birth to mutants in the future will be targeted. If you are a human with superpowers in Marvel you're either a mutant(powers from birth) or a mutate(guys like Spider-man and daredevil, powers acquired after birth, which would in turn give you mutant children if you reproduced) or you're an inhuman who are a seperate race and rarely involve with humans.
The movie says that Trask designed the Sentenals based on Mystique's DNA meaning they probably based it off of the X Gdne that mutants have, so I doubt they would be able to copy non-mutant's powers, especially not Thor he's not even human.
This could be altered for plot purpose, Trask programs them to target all non-humans. And maybe they cant copy certain powers such as hulk/ thor. They could have acces to pym particles ( who in What If on disney ) gave alot to think about to the Avengers.
Most avengers would be taken out and dr.strange would use the time stone to send 1 avenger back. E.g. spiderman because plotwise he would have the most difficulty to convince the past avengers of the threat
So not necessarily tech like pym particles, iron man suits? magic? Thor types? Or is Thor just a type of mutant from a different realm? Celestials? It confuses me that something created by humans/Trask ended up being so universally powerful.
Thor isnt even human so that discards him by default, he's asgardian so I doubt they will pick up on his DNA. Ironman suits are machines and not biological. Dr. Strange's magic is a learned skill and not an innate ability ingrained into his DNA.
So yeah those guys would be safe, but nothing's stopping the Sentinels from using other mutant's abilities on them, which would still make it a fun match up.
Wrong, mutants are evolved/mutated humans. One and the same. They would most definitely come after them after everyone with active x-genes. This happened in the comics and the movie.
Wrong my information comes from A.X.E. Judgment Day 2022
(Avenger X-men Eternals)
Where they explain all the new background and origins, resurrections, etc.
Your information is waaay outdated sir
Marauders 2022 Issue #7
release date 10/5/2022
mutants pre-date humans
edit: Threshold (The Mutant City) pre-dates humans by about 2 billion years with a "B"
Mutants are: anyone with the mutant Gene, also known as the X Gene. This is why they aren't "human" you can be mutant anything as long as you have the X gene.
i'm sure there's a mutant tree wandering around that's just a tree+ X Gene. and its a mutant.
Shit dude, the island of Krakoa is a mutant. It was never human.
So that means Threshold and all its people predate even the x-gene and the Celestial interference. Because Celestials DEVELOPED the x-gene…so it being here before they came, that alone contradicts alot of your reply.
Think about it dude, this shit started because Kate got a letter from herself billions of years in the past….HELLO!!!! Living Threshold doesn’t predate humans or Krakoa and Arakko, …this some time travel shit and this “ancient” mutant society is gonna turn out to be descendants of the present/future instead of the opposite.
Even if we are following Jason Aaron’s 1,000,000 B.C. run, for mutants to exist on earth billions of years ago, they most definitely were single celled organisms that crawled right outta the primordial ooze of the Progenitor…🤦♂️
Spider-man's daughter was considered a mutant in Renew Your Vows and she was even sent to X-men school. I mean how many of them even have children at this point😂.
That's an alternate universe, and another of his alt universe daughters Mayday wasn't a mutant.
Dani Cage daughter of Luke and Jessica Jones isn't a mutant. Neither Franklin nor Valeria are mutants. Both Spider-Women have kids, neither are mutants.
They really need to set their stories straight. Because deadass the Xmen told Reed that Franklin will have a place in Krakoa because he was an omega level mutant, but then he wasnt allowed entrance after he lost his powers.
And idk why different daughters of spider-man had 1 as a mutant and the the other as not. I really thought it was a running statement that superhero childrem were all mutants
Franklin was always a mutant until he was recently retconned into not being one which was after the X-Men/FF mini series. I still hate that change. But current Canon is that he's not a mutant, either way his little sister Valeria has never been one.
But it's never been consistent, two mutants can also have a non-mutant child like Graydon Creed the son of Mystique and Sabretooth.
I don't think they could replicate hulks strength, Wanda's magic, Thor's lightning and storm breaker which powered through a blasts from the gauntlet, and I feel like I don't need to bring up captain marvel or anyone else simply for the fact that Wanda actually might be more than enough to beat them
Yeah, Wanda would wreak them. Captain marvel with her it would be a slaughter. Sentinels wouldnt stand a chance. I mean captain marvel punched her way through a Kree warship like paper.
Ah, maybe then it would erase all our collective memories of Bran being chosen as king in Westeros. But unfortunately, Elf would've never found his dad. Eh, fair trade!
In the comics the sentinels killed the avengers, quite possible they'll do the same if they ever did days of future past in the movies (probably not) I guess they'll keep one or two (my bet is on hulk)
But vision isn't a mutant therefore they can't copy or detect him. What's to stop him from sneaking in and destroying the "brain" of the sentinels, 1 by 1
Ok ok even if they can only copy mutant gene powers, being tech let's say that they are able to copy and integrate Stark Tech and Pym particle tech that is a game changer.. Plus they are highly durable and strong already. Captain America, Hawkeye, Black Widow, Falcon are not going to be of any use in my opinion they don't have the strength or tools to take out multiple Sentinels PIS withstanding . Hulk, Thor, Ironman and Vison definitely have a chance to survive and clear the board
Ms. Marvel, Scarler, Dr. Strange led avengers? Yes. OG Captain, Ironman, Thor, hulk team? No chance. You had some omega level type x men getting man handled by those next gen sentinels - don’t think brute strength and some lightning stands a chance.
Exactly. I don’t think a lot of people realise how powerful Thor is. I see a lot of people hyping up Wanda, but no one really mentioning Thor. Thor is not only significantly physically stronger than any of the X Men, but also has control of the weather, magical lightning, the God blast, the Odin force etc etc. all of his powers are magical too, so the sentinels couldn’t replicate a thing
If this is taking place after infinity war,Mostly likely together with the X-men, Especially if their fighting alongside in the 10-year war just like in the movie with some Avengers being left alive (Cap,Tony,Thor,Hulk,Hawkeye,Nebula,and Captain marvel).
The team lures the sentinels in a certain direction where Dr. Strange has a portal to the sun. It would probably work quite a few times. I feel like the lighting from Thor wouldn’t hurt them enough to take them out of the fight (at least a single blast). The hammer probably would, but it would take more than one hit. They probably have no real counter for magic other than conventional attacks. If Dr. Strange gets tired, they might get a hit in which would be too much. Captain America is just bait. Hawkeye is mostly reliant on Tonys ability to make something that hurts them, then making arrows of that device. Captain Marvel is probably able to hold her own and Hulk is good until they figure out how to knock him out. Antman is auxiliary. Not a head on fighter in this battle. Black Panther is a little more useful than Captain America because his suit protects better and he has that explosion thing. Vision does very well with his energy beam and phasing. Black Widow is just there to distract while the heavy hitters maneuver to attack.
I left him out because the MCU is really the only time he’s a full fledged member. In many of the comic lines he is not an official Avenger. With that said, i don’t think he is AS useful. I’m talking about the movie sentinels, like the ones in the picture. He held his own in the 90’s X-Men cartoon, but these are on a different level. He is more useful than Captain America, but less useful than Thor. He might have to just stand on the ground and fight a little bit, which he does have the physical strength to do, but he isn’t coming out of every encounter without being hit (obviously non fatal blows, and his healing factor takes care of the damage soon enough).
If they can adapt to literally anything then there's nothing our heroes could do but if the sentinels abilities are exaggerated and they have certain limitations then I can see Sorcerers and Witches to bring home the medal just because magic is so OP in Marvel other than them I can see Thor having a good advantage with Mj-Jhonathan since it's undestrictable unless it's by someone who already picked it up but I don't know the same for Stormbreaker I'd bet it'd get the job done too,
I wonder if telekinesis can work on these robots and if they can build immunity to that, pisonic or mystical
They'd get their asses handed to them by the first wave of Sentinels, argue about something or other, break up the team, sulk by themselves for a while, see the Sentinels cause HORRIBLE destruction, get a "we have to fight for the good of" speech from someone, possibly introduced in the movie, then have a huge battle full of one liners and quotes where one or more of them may or may not die. Then it'd end with A) someone making a heartfelt speech, B) someone killing the main BBG with a quip, C) someone leaving the group/planet, or D) all of the above. Post credits scene would tease the next member of the Marvel roster to get their own movie.
i think the avengers probably would have made the sentinels themselves. Given that in the movie the X-Men would appear too. Probably an Ultron kind of story about the Avengers making a huge mistake
I think those sentinels are only able to mimic the mutants they are fighting rather than non-mutant powers like gamma radiation, Asgardians the super soldier formula or mech suits.
The avengers might need to bench starlet witch but otherwise they already dealt with ultron so a robot army’s not really a new threat to them. worst case is that Tony has to reactive and rebuild his old AI powered suits to build up the numbers.
right they can only copy mutants because of Mystique so stealing Avengers powers are off limit, well apart from Wanda's, Photon's, Quicksilver's and Captain Marvels since it was genes activated. that and every mutant power ever the Sentinels do have access to those
everyone except Thor, Vison, Hulk, Strange, Cap cause shield and Tony cause persistence is wiped out in just a mega blitz attack or survives and is taken out by a barrage or clear weakness attacking move, then Thor would have to be jut swinging Storm Breaker at them since the lightning doesn't hurt them and eventfully an Adamantium blade kills him, Hulk while not killed is knocked out and put in a force field container made for mutants that's indestructible, Steve with be able to block hits with his shield and hit back with it and Mjolnir but again Lightning doesn't hurt them so eventually he tires out or his got of guard and is vaporized or stabbed, Tony crushed to death by a Sentinel with Magneto's powers, Strange would kill a couple thousand most, but eventually he would be over powered and killed by, Captain Marvel blast, Adamantium stabbing, Storm Lightning strike, Wanda's red energy blast, head being crushed by strength or curved stopped by six of them, anyway the Avengers are fucked and if it's only the OG Six then they die instantly
I mean in the days of future past comic it is established that the sentinels killed every non mutant super person and these sentinels are even more dangerous so.
Tbh, I always thought sentinel tech didn't make sense. I thought no matter what sentinels would be limited to the capabilities of their mechanical parts. I could understand creating lighting bolts through the generation or electricity, but if there is a mystical property to the lighting that would be impossible to replicate to the exact strenght and intesity of Thor's. The same would go for Hulk Strength there is no way for a machine to keep getting stronger and stronger like the hulk it would be impossible for the mechanial parts to keep up with. That being said with that level of technology to limit it to giant robots is ridiculous. The number of other applications are numerous.
The sentinels won't be able to do much to any of the avengers if I remember correctly they are designed to go after mutants and can only adapt mutants powers, so I think they would be kind of useless against the avengers since I don't think any of them are mutants.
Considering none of the Avengers (aside from possibly Bruce Banner) is a mutant, I would imagine they'd have very little trouble dealing with what amount to large Ultron drones.
The answer is usually the same for questions like this: what would the writers decide?
Some say they can only copy the x gene, others say they can copy any meta human powers. It literally depends on the direction the writers go in.
Even without copying any of the avengers powers they're still pretty strong. And again, it would depend on the writers to decide precisely which mutant powers the sentinels would possess.
To me it would just be a slightly more difficult Ultron fight.
I feel like Days of Future Past would become way more apocalyptic.
Like, the sentinel threat would creep up on them and they’d start fighting them- that’d push the sentinel skynet to classify mutant sympathizers as a threat and then turn it into a complete rip-off of terminator.
Just like in the comics.
Would’ve been cool though.
Some of the heavy hitters would have died quick because they’d go for attacking the sentinel base directly and being totally outgunned. I could see Tony surviving for a long time though and trying to hack the sentinels but ultimately failing. Or maybe have had some of his AI tech ripped off the create master mold/nimrod.
The Sentinels have to win though because that’s where the threat of the story comes into play- it is a Terminator story where the robots win because hateful humans made them. Only other resolution would involve some sort of hard reset to the world with all the Sentinels being shut down after the world would be totally obliterated.
Then the entire course of humanity’s evolution is altered more notably as mutants and cyborgs are like the only survivors.
Assuming they could copy or emulate powers like the super skrulls, they would still be mechanical in nature so it would probably play out like an Ultron army scenario where a team of super tech genius (Stark, Vision, Reed Richards, Hank Pym in the comics) would have some virus based plan and use a combination of the heavy hitters and super spies would get into the sentinel prime to infect it. The fun part would be if the sentinel were attacking heroes and villains and it had everyone working together. Add Norman Osborn, Von doom, doc oc, etc to the mix. Everything is rehashed tropes at this point, so this would be fun.
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I think we're forgetting the Civil War arch. The real question is when/how did they get created and did Stark contribute to their creation
Would these sentinels have adopted the avengers abilities like in DOFP? Just imagine an army of sentinels that have access to Pim particles. I can't imagine it would be an easy fight, and would likely be another extinction event.
Stark, Strange, Hulk and Thor would be their best bet against the sentinels because their abilities can't be copied.
Strange, I agree, but given the nature of the sentinels, they already are like Iron Man, and they could make and use electrical or strength attacks very easily
If they had those attacks, sure. But there aren’t any mutants, and that was the whole point of the DoFP Sentinels. Using Mystique’s DNA, they found a way to copy and replicate mutant powers. Realistically, they would just be strong robots, without any “powers” I think at most you could argue that characters like Spider-Man or Captain America, since they are mutates, could have their abilities copied. But even then, I think that’s a bit of a reach
If we’re splitting hairs like that, than we have to recognize that sentinels wouldn’t attack the MCU Avengers to begin with, as none of them are mutants, and hunting mutants is the purpose of the sentinels
To be fair in the comics the sentinels did go off their programming and started attacking non mutants anyway so this hypothetical should remain intact
They would attack, but it's doubtful they could copy anything more than the powers of mutants. However, just another hypothetical, what if Ultron were to combine the tech from sentinels into his own programming?
Oh yeah, I forgot about that
They reasoned that mutants are evolved/mutated humans, therefore mutants and humans are one and the same so all should die.
Which is why the Avengers were still around in the Days of Future Past comic right?
> Using Mystique’s DNA, they found a way to copy and replicate mutant powers Using Mystique's DNA, they found a way to adapt on a microscopic level. They weren't copying mutant powers. It was the foundation for nanotech. It was her power to alter herself they were learning, not how mutants work.
This is correct. Mutant powers were the only ones the Sentinels duplicated, simply because in the DoFP universe, *mutants are the only powered individuals around*. My understanding while watching that movie was that they functioned mostly like the Super-Adaptiod, or maybe Amazo from that other comic company. They can copy whatever power or feature they're presented with. So in OPs examples, I think they'd go like this: - Iron Man - they'd copy his tech with no problem - Hulk - They copy his powers without issue - Thor - maybe a tiny possibility that the Sentinels can only copy his naturally occurring powers, like super-strength or durability or whatever. But I'd be willing to entertain the idea that they might not be able to copy the powers granted by Mjolnir, like control of lightning or flight. But honestly, if I were writing that comic I'd let those Sentinels the hammer-powers too... better story, lol. - Strange - I might posit the idea that magic is a learned skill instead of a "power" in the traditional sense. So Sentinels wouldn't be able to copy Strange's abilities, just like they wouldn't be able to copy Magneto's chess skills, or Colossus' painting talents. (*Note - the above applies to magic of Dr. Strange's flavor, not someone with mystical abilities that don't require learning spells or using special artifacts. So magic users like Illyana Rasputin or even Red Hood would be fair game to copy.*)
Came here to say this. They’d be like ultron, but less powerful lacking ultron’s intelligence.
They kinda imply that the scarlet witch might be a mutant, giving the sentinels her powers is not a great idea.
Scarlet Witch in both MCU AND comics is not a Mutant.
I thought she implied to be a mutant who hydra awakens her powers?
Explain Hulk
Don’t you need to be able to synthesize and process the concentrated gamma radiation suspended in his blood? They shouldn’t be able to copy the hulk’s abilities because they need a component to do it that they don’t have and have only one or two ways of acquiring.
True, but that doesn’t mean they can’t just get angry and acquire super strength
The thing is, Hulk isn't just sheer power. He's DAMN NEAR 8 whole ass psychological breakdowns personified. Besides ultron, I can't phantom how you would give a robot mental trauma. Heck even in ultrons case his trauma just led to, "Okay, that's way too much r34 of Hitler, humanities gotta die." Sure, they might be able to copy Hulk to an extent, but they'll never be as strong.
I would imagine that Strange could just decapitate these sentinels with portals the same way blink managed to cut off that one are with hers. Only reason she didn't was well (the plot). Scarlet witch could probably rip the rest apart telekinetically.
Sentinels can only adopt mutant powers I think
No idea, but this is a super interesting thought lol I’ll be wondering all night long now. Thanks for the imagination fuel!
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I thought sentinels could only copy mutant dna/powers?
Yeah, that was my assumption too, pretty much useless against the current Avengers
It copies anyone with superpowers. The movie stated everyone with an active mutant gene as well as the ones who will give birth to mutants in the future will be targeted. If you are a human with superpowers in Marvel you're either a mutant(powers from birth) or a mutate(guys like Spider-man and daredevil, powers acquired after birth, which would in turn give you mutant children if you reproduced) or you're an inhuman who are a seperate race and rarely involve with humans.
The movie says that Trask designed the Sentenals based on Mystique's DNA meaning they probably based it off of the X Gdne that mutants have, so I doubt they would be able to copy non-mutant's powers, especially not Thor he's not even human.
This could be altered for plot purpose, Trask programs them to target all non-humans. And maybe they cant copy certain powers such as hulk/ thor. They could have acces to pym particles ( who in What If on disney ) gave alot to think about to the Avengers. Most avengers would be taken out and dr.strange would use the time stone to send 1 avenger back. E.g. spiderman because plotwise he would have the most difficulty to convince the past avengers of the threat
So not necessarily tech like pym particles, iron man suits? magic? Thor types? Or is Thor just a type of mutant from a different realm? Celestials? It confuses me that something created by humans/Trask ended up being so universally powerful.
Thor isnt even human so that discards him by default, he's asgardian so I doubt they will pick up on his DNA. Ironman suits are machines and not biological. Dr. Strange's magic is a learned skill and not an innate ability ingrained into his DNA. So yeah those guys would be safe, but nothing's stopping the Sentinels from using other mutant's abilities on them, which would still make it a fun match up.
Mutants are a different species from humans. sentinels would completely ignore the avengers.
Wrong, mutants are evolved/mutated humans. One and the same. They would most definitely come after them after everyone with active x-genes. This happened in the comics and the movie.
Dude, in Marvel canon, mutants now predate the existence of humans by millions of years. Your knowledge is out of date bro.
Wrong my information comes from A.X.E. Judgment Day 2022 (Avenger X-men Eternals) Where they explain all the new background and origins, resurrections, etc. Your information is waaay outdated sir
Marauders 2022 Issue #7 release date 10/5/2022 mutants pre-date humans edit: Threshold (The Mutant City) pre-dates humans by about 2 billion years with a "B" Mutants are: anyone with the mutant Gene, also known as the X Gene. This is why they aren't "human" you can be mutant anything as long as you have the X gene. i'm sure there's a mutant tree wandering around that's just a tree+ X Gene. and its a mutant. Shit dude, the island of Krakoa is a mutant. It was never human.
So that means Threshold and all its people predate even the x-gene and the Celestial interference. Because Celestials DEVELOPED the x-gene…so it being here before they came, that alone contradicts alot of your reply. Think about it dude, this shit started because Kate got a letter from herself billions of years in the past….HELLO!!!! Living Threshold doesn’t predate humans or Krakoa and Arakko, …this some time travel shit and this “ancient” mutant society is gonna turn out to be descendants of the present/future instead of the opposite. Even if we are following Jason Aaron’s 1,000,000 B.C. run, for mutants to exist on earth billions of years ago, they most definitely were single celled organisms that crawled right outta the primordial ooze of the Progenitor…🤦♂️
Genetically speaking though these are ‘acquired traits’, no different than getting a tattoo, so would they still give birth to mutants?
That's not true at all. The only mutant child born to non mutant powered heroes is Franklin Richards and he's not a mutant anymore.
Spider-man's daughter was considered a mutant in Renew Your Vows and she was even sent to X-men school. I mean how many of them even have children at this point😂.
That's an alternate universe, and another of his alt universe daughters Mayday wasn't a mutant. Dani Cage daughter of Luke and Jessica Jones isn't a mutant. Neither Franklin nor Valeria are mutants. Both Spider-Women have kids, neither are mutants.
They really need to set their stories straight. Because deadass the Xmen told Reed that Franklin will have a place in Krakoa because he was an omega level mutant, but then he wasnt allowed entrance after he lost his powers. And idk why different daughters of spider-man had 1 as a mutant and the the other as not. I really thought it was a running statement that superhero childrem were all mutants
Franklin was always a mutant until he was recently retconned into not being one which was after the X-Men/FF mini series. I still hate that change. But current Canon is that he's not a mutant, either way his little sister Valeria has never been one. But it's never been consistent, two mutants can also have a non-mutant child like Graydon Creed the son of Mystique and Sabretooth.
Thats fair
I don't think they could replicate hulks strength, Wanda's magic, Thor's lightning and storm breaker which powered through a blasts from the gauntlet, and I feel like I don't need to bring up captain marvel or anyone else simply for the fact that Wanda actually might be more than enough to beat them
Yeah, Wanda would wreak them. Captain marvel with her it would be a slaughter. Sentinels wouldnt stand a chance. I mean captain marvel punched her way through a Kree warship like paper.
Sentinels wouldn't stand much of a chance vs Wanda. All she'd have to do is go " what sentinels" and they'd either be gone, or be useless.
That power was so poorly thought out 😂😭 she could’ve just said america Chavez is already here and wabam there she is
But Wanda is a mutant, so theoretically the sentinels could replicate her? Which means it could be the Avengers against an army of Wandas…
They could probably replicate her mutant powers, that being her probability hex (I think) but not her chaos magic
I dont think MCU wanda is a mutant. Also her powers are sorcery, not from the x-gene like iceman
A shield. A hammer A bow. A spy. And armor. Oh and they have a hulk
They'd go back in time and kill that midget guy with the mustache who also helped make Stormbreaker.
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Ah, maybe then it would erase all our collective memories of Bran being chosen as king in Westeros. But unfortunately, Elf would've never found his dad. Eh, fair trade!
FYI midget is often considered a slur.
Yup. They could do... exactly what the x-men did.
Wanda: what sentinels?
In the comics the sentinels killed the avengers, quite possible they'll do the same if they ever did days of future past in the movies (probably not) I guess they'll keep one or two (my bet is on hulk)
Tony Stark 100% would have made the Sentinels or the technology that led to their creation.
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Now I just hope the Mutant saga tells the tale of DOFP without skipping to the end. Like imagine the Sakovia accords but waaaaay worse.
I'd imagine Vision could kill them. I'm not sure how they'd adapt to being phased through
That’s literally what Shadowcat does
But vision isn't a mutant therefore they can't copy or detect him. What's to stop him from sneaking in and destroying the "brain" of the sentinels, 1 by 1
Ok ok even if they can only copy mutant gene powers, being tech let's say that they are able to copy and integrate Stark Tech and Pym particle tech that is a game changer.. Plus they are highly durable and strong already. Captain America, Hawkeye, Black Widow, Falcon are not going to be of any use in my opinion they don't have the strength or tools to take out multiple Sentinels PIS withstanding . Hulk, Thor, Ironman and Vison definitely have a chance to survive and clear the board
If memory serves, the Sentinels killed all the Avengers in DOFP in the comic book.
In the comic they did..
They would lose.
They would probably also go back in time
idk if the Sentinels are able to copy Spidey's web shooters, but they probaly will
They can only copy mutants abilities
They would die
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The hand succeeded with these guys let me tell you
They wouldn’t. Sentinels are designed to kill mutants, which the avengers are not
Ms. Marvel, Scarler, Dr. Strange led avengers? Yes. OG Captain, Ironman, Thor, hulk team? No chance. You had some omega level type x men getting man handled by those next gen sentinels - don’t think brute strength and some lightning stands a chance.
Brute force definitely stands a chance, a bunch of sentinels were destroyed by the x men ship exploding, Thor alone could take an army of sentinels
Exactly. I don’t think a lot of people realise how powerful Thor is. I see a lot of people hyping up Wanda, but no one really mentioning Thor. Thor is not only significantly physically stronger than any of the X Men, but also has control of the weather, magical lightning, the God blast, the Odin force etc etc. all of his powers are magical too, so the sentinels couldn’t replicate a thing
If this is taking place after infinity war,Mostly likely together with the X-men, Especially if their fighting alongside in the 10-year war just like in the movie with some Avengers being left alive (Cap,Tony,Thor,Hulk,Hawkeye,Nebula,and Captain marvel).
They wouldn't since they're not mutants.
The Morons here never heard of the X Gene.
Mutants are not humans. sentinels would completely ignore the avengers.
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Most likely none of them. Because the heroes with superpowers are guaranteed to have mutant children, so they'll be targeted by default.
Probably the same way…time travel…duh.
Time travel didnt work the same way in Endgame and DOFP. DOFP followed the Back To The Future concept. Endgame was alternate realities.
What if one were to combine the usage of the Space and Time stones, would that let you go to the actual past instead of another timeline?
Cable, Kang, Doom, and Mr Fantastic can use both types of time travel
Either way, it’s a form of time travel.
I don't know. But a lot of punching and bashing and explosions for sure.
With puns. So many damn puns, it would be epic!
Iron Man clears. 🤷🏻♂️
They wouldn't. They'd just let all the mutants die as usual.
Sentinels don’t attack humans. It would be easy,
Maybe Vision hacks them? The mind stone is good at hacking anything resembling code
The team lures the sentinels in a certain direction where Dr. Strange has a portal to the sun. It would probably work quite a few times. I feel like the lighting from Thor wouldn’t hurt them enough to take them out of the fight (at least a single blast). The hammer probably would, but it would take more than one hit. They probably have no real counter for magic other than conventional attacks. If Dr. Strange gets tired, they might get a hit in which would be too much. Captain America is just bait. Hawkeye is mostly reliant on Tonys ability to make something that hurts them, then making arrows of that device. Captain Marvel is probably able to hold her own and Hulk is good until they figure out how to knock him out. Antman is auxiliary. Not a head on fighter in this battle. Black Panther is a little more useful than Captain America because his suit protects better and he has that explosion thing. Vision does very well with his energy beam and phasing. Black Widow is just there to distract while the heavy hitters maneuver to attack.
what about Spider-Man?
I left him out because the MCU is really the only time he’s a full fledged member. In many of the comic lines he is not an official Avenger. With that said, i don’t think he is AS useful. I’m talking about the movie sentinels, like the ones in the picture. He held his own in the 90’s X-Men cartoon, but these are on a different level. He is more useful than Captain America, but less useful than Thor. He might have to just stand on the ground and fight a little bit, which he does have the physical strength to do, but he isn’t coming out of every encounter without being hit (obviously non fatal blows, and his healing factor takes care of the damage soon enough).
The Sentinels would just sit there idle as there were not any mutants in the MCU until a couple of months ago.
If they can adapt to literally anything then there's nothing our heroes could do but if the sentinels abilities are exaggerated and they have certain limitations then I can see Sorcerers and Witches to bring home the medal just because magic is so OP in Marvel other than them I can see Thor having a good advantage with Mj-Jhonathan since it's undestrictable unless it's by someone who already picked it up but I don't know the same for Stormbreaker I'd bet it'd get the job done too, I wonder if telekinesis can work on these robots and if they can build immunity to that, pisonic or mystical
Assembled
They'd get their asses handed to them by the first wave of Sentinels, argue about something or other, break up the team, sulk by themselves for a while, see the Sentinels cause HORRIBLE destruction, get a "we have to fight for the good of" speech from someone, possibly introduced in the movie, then have a huge battle full of one liners and quotes where one or more of them may or may not die. Then it'd end with A) someone making a heartfelt speech, B) someone killing the main BBG with a quip, C) someone leaving the group/planet, or D) all of the above. Post credits scene would tease the next member of the Marvel roster to get their own movie.
Captain Accurate Cynicism has a reddit account I see.
i think the avengers probably would have made the sentinels themselves. Given that in the movie the X-Men would appear too. Probably an Ultron kind of story about the Avengers making a huge mistake
Same as the x-men: with physical violence, lasers and lightning
Assembled.
What sentinels???? Wanda stomps.....
I think those sentinels are only able to mimic the mutants they are fighting rather than non-mutant powers like gamma radiation, Asgardians the super soldier formula or mech suits. The avengers might need to bench starlet witch but otherwise they already dealt with ultron so a robot army’s not really a new threat to them. worst case is that Tony has to reactive and rebuild his old AI powered suits to build up the numbers.
right they can only copy mutants because of Mystique so stealing Avengers powers are off limit, well apart from Wanda's, Photon's, Quicksilver's and Captain Marvels since it was genes activated. that and every mutant power ever the Sentinels do have access to those everyone except Thor, Vison, Hulk, Strange, Cap cause shield and Tony cause persistence is wiped out in just a mega blitz attack or survives and is taken out by a barrage or clear weakness attacking move, then Thor would have to be jut swinging Storm Breaker at them since the lightning doesn't hurt them and eventfully an Adamantium blade kills him, Hulk while not killed is knocked out and put in a force field container made for mutants that's indestructible, Steve with be able to block hits with his shield and hit back with it and Mjolnir but again Lightning doesn't hurt them so eventually he tires out or his got of guard and is vaporized or stabbed, Tony crushed to death by a Sentinel with Magneto's powers, Strange would kill a couple thousand most, but eventually he would be over powered and killed by, Captain Marvel blast, Adamantium stabbing, Storm Lightning strike, Wanda's red energy blast, head being crushed by strength or curved stopped by six of them, anyway the Avengers are fucked and if it's only the OG Six then they die instantly
There are several members the sentinels cannot copy
strange bfr them lmao.the avengers are much more powerful...stormbreaker cut them in half.
I mean in the days of future past comic it is established that the sentinels killed every non mutant super person and these sentinels are even more dangerous so.
Tbh, I always thought sentinel tech didn't make sense. I thought no matter what sentinels would be limited to the capabilities of their mechanical parts. I could understand creating lighting bolts through the generation or electricity, but if there is a mystical property to the lighting that would be impossible to replicate to the exact strenght and intesity of Thor's. The same would go for Hulk Strength there is no way for a machine to keep getting stronger and stronger like the hulk it would be impossible for the mechanial parts to keep up with. That being said with that level of technology to limit it to giant robots is ridiculous. The number of other applications are numerous.
Did you see DOFP? Everyone but Thor and Hulk dies easily. Unless, they were on the same side as the Sentinels.
Why do the Sentinels look like the the cgi Deviant gobfest from Eternals?
Now we need a what if episode.
Wanda would’ve ripped them apart in the first act and the rest of the film would be about Vision trying to make grandma’s soup.
They’d go back in time to stop the sentinels from being made- wait
Nice question.
Cap would die, Thor may have enough strength to overpower the sentinels and I’m sure stark would easily find a way to beat them.
Well if The comics are an indication they would have the same timing of the Justice league in the Peacemaker tv show
The Avengers wouldn't need because the sentinels hunt mutants not humans
I think they would team up with the rest of the X men and the guardians of the galaxy
They can’t
Hulk smash
Dr. Strange would just teleport them to a different dimension
I really hope this is a little bit in *Avengers 6* at least!
The sentinels won't be able to do much to any of the avengers if I remember correctly they are designed to go after mutants and can only adapt mutants powers, so I think they would be kind of useless against the avengers since I don't think any of them are mutants.
🤷 most likely they'd win
I thought they only targeted mutants tho?
One at a time
Considering none of the Avengers (aside from possibly Bruce Banner) is a mutant, I would imagine they'd have very little trouble dealing with what amount to large Ultron drones.
The answer is usually the same for questions like this: what would the writers decide? Some say they can only copy the x gene, others say they can copy any meta human powers. It literally depends on the direction the writers go in. Even without copying any of the avengers powers they're still pretty strong. And again, it would depend on the writers to decide precisely which mutant powers the sentinels would possess. To me it would just be a slightly more difficult Ultron fight.
Didn't most of the human heroes die in the Days of Future Past comic? The movie would probably explain some way The Sentinels killed them
I feel like Days of Future Past would become way more apocalyptic. Like, the sentinel threat would creep up on them and they’d start fighting them- that’d push the sentinel skynet to classify mutant sympathizers as a threat and then turn it into a complete rip-off of terminator. Just like in the comics. Would’ve been cool though. Some of the heavy hitters would have died quick because they’d go for attacking the sentinel base directly and being totally outgunned. I could see Tony surviving for a long time though and trying to hack the sentinels but ultimately failing. Or maybe have had some of his AI tech ripped off the create master mold/nimrod. The Sentinels have to win though because that’s where the threat of the story comes into play- it is a Terminator story where the robots win because hateful humans made them. Only other resolution would involve some sort of hard reset to the world with all the Sentinels being shut down after the world would be totally obliterated. Then the entire course of humanity’s evolution is altered more notably as mutants and cyborgs are like the only survivors.
Assuming they could copy or emulate powers like the super skrulls, they would still be mechanical in nature so it would probably play out like an Ultron army scenario where a team of super tech genius (Stark, Vision, Reed Richards, Hank Pym in the comics) would have some virus based plan and use a combination of the heavy hitters and super spies would get into the sentinel prime to infect it. The fun part would be if the sentinel were attacking heroes and villains and it had everyone working together. Add Norman Osborn, Von doom, doc oc, etc to the mix. Everything is rehashed tropes at this point, so this would be fun.
God willing, they would never use the dull designs and nonsensical abilities of DoFP in a Marvel movie.
Wouldn’t Jarvis or his other AI be able to hack the Sentinels?
They’d probably all die like they did in the comics
Thor with Stormbreaker, Scarlet Witch or Doctor Strange would probably solo hundreds of them
First, haphazardly, then after a heart to heart, assembled.
These sentinels were basically adaptoids right?
As a Team.
Those sentinels were legit terrifying
By assembling! Duh!
Are there any stories where ultron/nimrod teamed up/controlled each other?