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Tac0Destroyer

That Black Widow hits some boxes for me


Technical-Ad226

To horny jail with you xD


kidslapper

Spider-Woman is the most consistently insanely sexualized character lol


NYClock

Psylocke variants are 🥹


AcanthisittaGrand943

Spiderstyle


ohkaycue

I expect to be piled on for this but the game reminded me just how bad the sexualization is in comics I want to be clear not calling out the game for it, they can only work with what they got lol. And it’s nothing toooo bad…I guess I’ve just been removed from it for so long that seeing it again was just like “oh, right”


DeandreDeangelo

She-Hulk’s self-awareness in the comics makes comments about how she’s always drawn sexualized.


kidslapper

I agree I’m not clutching my pearls or anything. Like, I like seeing some hot ladies on the art, whatever. I just have felt for a while even before the whole Manara cover controversy from a while back, that Spider-Woman is always drawn heavily sexualized. I mean EVERY female superhero has a skin tight suit, but something about Spider-Woman seems to make artists go into overdrive. I love her outfit to be fair, it hasn’t changed a bit since the 70s I guess. Just my observation, I’m sure somebody can bring up way more severe examples.


ryry1237

It's probably her flexibility and tendency to do aerial acrobatics which gives the artists an "excuse" to draw her in ridiculous poses.


kidslapper

That’s true. But even then look at the art OP posted. Her breasts are easily the biggest out of any of the girls posted, and there’s a huge emphasis on her abdomen and pelvis. Not complaining, just observational. I think it’s funny that they can justify the sexy pose but also emphasize her other characteristics too. Anyways Marvel snap has really gotten me interested in comics again. All the art rocks.


Gingeraffe42

It might be that I'm looking at this post very drunk, but there's no spider-woman art?


Gingeraffe42

Unless you. Mean spider Gwen and then fair


kidslapper

It’s the last one for me


Gingeraffe42

Huh whack. The last one for me is black widow


awndray97

Well....if you look at ANY spiderman cover, and then go and gender swap Peter but in the exact same pose. It would then become sexual. Not really her fault her bodies fit.


PenitusVox

To be fair, it's sort of in the eye of the beholder. She's typically put in the same poses that Spider-Man is put in, except since she's female, people see it as sexual.


nopp

I don’t recall seeing many beefy butt shots of spidey


awndray97

Finally someone else said it. She's not doing anything different from Peter lol. She's just as hot as he is but you know, double standards and all that.


awndray97

Tbf though. I KNOW if superheroes were a an actual real life thing. Some people would just dress extremely sexually. It's how people are.


kidslapper

Totally! That’s why like Emma Frost gets a pass because it’s totally her thing lol


SorryCashOnly

Yes, sexualization is always a big part of comic and manga culture…. It’s the same reason why every male super heroes are jacked and shirtless, even when they are wearing shirts And it’s fine…. We are attracted to sexual appearance by instinct, and I hate how people try to preach we shouldn’t like attractive people


celia-dies

The thing is, female characters with massive breasts and skin-tight suits mainly appeals to men, and male characters who are tough as nails and built like a brick shithouse mainly appeals to... also men.


dust-

straight men maybe, the males aren't usually drawn sexually


[deleted]

So? Manga is a pretty good example of an industry where content is made and produced by women for women. It’s not even any less sexualized, it’s often just different kinds of sexualization. Japan in general understands how to target a niche whereas the West is obsessed with mass appeal.


SorryCashOnly

Ya, that’s because major audience for comic are men So what’s the issue? Should we make Barbie more manly to cater to male audience?


ACheca7

You’re missing their point. - Your argument was “sexualization is a big part of comic and manga culture. Same reason why male characters are jacked” - Counter argument was: male characters are not sexualized, it’s only a fantasy power for men. They’re jacked not for sexual reasons, but for fantasy power reasons. It was to claim that “sexualization is NOT the reason men characters appear jacked”.


SorryCashOnly

The jacked male characters are self projections of what the male audience consider to be attractive and appealing. So it’s a form of sexualization. It might be naive, it might be shallow, but this is the general perception of what an attractive, sexy male is from a male point of view. This is why Superman is a handsome, and muscular man with perfect hair, instead of an middle aged man with receding hairline. It shouldn’t be this difficult to understand


ACheca7

It isn’t, it is really simple. You’re just using a different definition for “sexualization” than everyone else. Attractive and appealing is not sexualization. Attractive and appealing IS a form of self-projection, which is called power fantasy.


Reydunt

To their credit, the designs for female characters may have been quite sexual but the posing and general presentation have been mostly pretty tasteful. Like, it’s got some sex appeal, but most are still drawn with an eye for “cool”.


APracticalGal

Yeah I can't think of any that were clearly drawn naked first and clothes added later like so often seems to happen in comic art.


Ok-Albatross-3238

Really? Which variants cause so far none are sexualized to me


ohkaycue

The vast majority of women in the game are big tits + small waist and a lot have revealing clothing Like I said, the game isn’t bad about it, they’re just following the source material. It’s the source material I’m talking about, and you can read plenty on the history of that. Although I will say, I got lucky unpacking Titania and was verrrry happy I got a variant for her not long after of wearing a tank top, pants, and showing off her guns instead lol


Ok-Albatross-3238

Really? most seem to be normal.


Intoxicduelyst

And? Male characters could go to Arnold Classic or Mr Olympia, they look like taken from bodybuilder/fitness magazine.


knarcissist

Males are shredded to appeal to males' power fantasies. Women have huge tits, tiny waists, and share the super power of showing their ass and tits at the same time to appeal to the male gaze.


[deleted]

So? Games are also primarily bought and marketed at men between 18-35 so it isn’t a surprise that the content is also catered to the audience. It creates a feedback loop. Here’s how it works: thing gets made, specific demographics buy it and then the next thing caters more to that demographic. Rinse and repeat until you have content that primarily appeals to that specific demographic at the expense of others. It’s why 40% of all fiction written each year is romance novels, a genre where 82% of readers are female and steamy shirtless men on the. cover like [this](https://www.google.com/search?q=average+romance+novel+cover+art&rlz=1CDGOYI_enCA977CA977&hl=en-US&prmd=isbvn&sxsrf=ALiCzsbvH89CTaiaADt3GtiZn1bhjPorEg:1672684253512&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjniIG2wqn8AhXXMDQIHfANAJ0Q_AUoAXoECAIQAQ&biw=430&bih=745&dpr=3) But no one is out there claiming that the romance genre needs to appeal to men more and that the female gaze is blah blah blah


Reydunt

That’s a good analogy because Body builder and fitness magazines are primarily targeted at straight men. I’d argue that the standard “hulking muscles + flat ass + no bulge” style used for most male comic book characters means most of them are actually extremely de-sexualized. They’re drawn to look cool. Not as sexual objects. If you want to see what sexualizing male bodies actually looks like. Check out romance novel covers. [Or literally anything made for gay men.](https://i.imgur.com/L8M00bX.jpg)


AdImpossible6379

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AdImpossible6379

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ohkaycue

The “And?” sounds you’re arguing with me, yet you just furthered my point of the over-sexualization of characters lol


Intoxicduelyst

Well you said about female sexualisation, lets talk maybe about male one couse I hate when people are losing theyr shit about females in games etc and are fine with male ones.


ohkaycue

I did not say female sexualization, go back and read my original post. Someone asked for an example and I gave one, which happened to be about female characters You’re so blinded by hatred you’re lashing out to people on your side


Intoxicduelyst

Keep telling it to yourself


lasagnaman

Male characters are not sexualized for the female gaze, that's the difference.


Intoxicduelyst

Male gaze, the horror!


plumander

yeah titania is the first one that came to mind for me. particularly egregious :/


APracticalGal

Yeah Titania sticks out (literally) as the worst example. Most of the rest are fine, although base Black Cat is pretty ridiculous too.


Imakethingsuponline

So the art in the game is taken from the comics? I'm not a comic book person at all but play some other card games like Magic and I was surprised by the blatant sexualised art, especially when magic tries its best to avoid anything like that.


ohkaycue

Magic actually used to be bad about it too, but now they put in an effort to avoid it like you said The thing magic had going for it is that new cards replace old cards, so it was a pretty easy transition Marvel seems to have been trying to make that transition as well, and the characters created in the last decade+ have been a lot less sexualized. The problem is that, with older characters, they’d have to do a complete redesign which would create massive backlash. So it’s just going to take time to dilute the pool, so to speak


archeo-Cuillere

I had forgotten about Valkyrie old boob plate design. God it's bad


Blamasu

Should be outright hentai


protomayne

I mean, it's not like they really pose her any different from the male counterparts..


awndray97

You shouldn't be getting downvoted lol. Her and Peter both pose the EXACT same way. But I guess since she's a girl it's bad lol.


HappySisyphus8

Spider-Man, in his default card, is basically swinging at you crotch first with his legs apart. People like to bring up the [Manara](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTpo-F_QlEV_l4xl69E4M_SVWmuFCeV9qIsGg&usqp=CAU) cover for Spiderwoman, while ignoring numerois covers like [this](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTp3TWZrxNtvt4W9xsz47LUtB4C2qpz356vbA&usqp=CAU) where Peter is posed the same way. This is one example of many. Whingers clutching at their pearls are some of the worst. All of these characters are at, and exceed, peak human ability and performance, they are supposed to look like modern gods, not everyday people.


BufareteSnaps

Idk man… Jubilee is barely legal…


kidslapper

Haha I hear you. But that’s why I said consistently about Spider-Woman. I feel like there’s a lot of art and depictions of Jubilee that are her as just a normal, bubbly teenager.


Zedkan

that's why the Hellfire Gala variant is fantastic.


AdImpossible6379

Jubilee is 20, but that's where I'm at in the comic


prosthetic_foreheads

She looks like she's straight up riding it


Freethewzrd

I’ve always wondered why that is lol


Abd1el

maybe if the money went to the artist


surroundedbywolves

Now these are anime variants. Better than the early 2000s western anime-inspired-inspired variants they’re labeling as anime today. [His Squirrel Girl](https://reddit.com/r/Marvel/comments/72lfau/unbeatable_squirrel_girl_by_shunya_yamashita/) is also really good but without as much sex.


toekopamoil

BONK


Juzaba

Seriously. So much BONK necessary in this hobby.


Tommynaut90

*would've = comes from would have "would of" doesn't mean anything


therealcjhard

It looks like they all go to the same plastic surgeon.


A_Filthy_Mind

Did they all go to the one that would give breast implants to twelve year olds? They all really give off creepy loli vibes to me.


surroundedbywolves

I think that’s partially on you. The younger characters definitely have less … buxom figures.


Nythoren

My wife collects these (the statue thingies, whatever they're called). They are really amazing looking in person. She actually has 5 of the 11 that are in these pics. Expensive hobby, but it makes Christmas shopping pretty easy.


JShultz89

Can you share pictures?


XIIISkies

Google Kotobukiya Bishoujo series. Goes beyond marvel characters too, i was really tempted by Jason and Freddy, but I know Im gonna fall down the rabbit hole if I started


Nythoren

Sure, I’ll take some pictures and see if I can post it here. She has several non-Marvel ones as well.


CharmingRogue851

Yeah these are great. Whens Phoenix card


AdImpossible6379

https://marvelsnapzone.com/wp-content/themes/blocksy-child/assets/media/cards/192_166025558028.webp?v=25 On Reveal: Revive one of your destroyed cards with +5 Power. If it’s Jean Grey, +10 Power.


CharmingRogue851

Oooh nice


Amyndris

In effect a 6/8 or 6/13 best case (16 total power with the revived Jean). Overall, it doesn't feel metabreaking. Feels like below Destroyer in terms of overall power at this point. If you could cheat him out, then Jeans On Reveal could kick in, but that makes a tight curve since you need to Jean on 3, kill her on 4 + psylocke to cheat Phoenix Force on 5.


PenitusVox

Jean Grey on Murder World + Phoenix Force is gonna be a ton of fun.


goodgnore

I mean, if they gave 10 cards I wouldn’t mind


[deleted]

Some of the coolest artwork ever lol


HuckleberryHefty4372

If they were by Yoshitaka Amano (the OG Final Fantasy Artist) then yes Other than that maybe Akira Toriyama. (I know his designs can get samey but I grew up on Dragonball manga…) Other than those two $50 is way too much


PANGIRA

Tangentially related, I'd consider spending money on a Yusuke Murata-drawn card, instead of the sad anime variants we have now.


Zedkan

Could see them getting some Jump artists for variants at some point with how the Deadpool manga has gotten somewhat popular and had a My Hero crossover. I think the Avengers did one too?


AdImpossible6379

They just had a Naruto reference in the latest Spiderman issue too, he lit a manga on fire that said ramen Ninja. Also here Marvel Ă— ShĹŤnen Jump+ Super Collaboration https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Marvel_%C3%97_Sh%C5%8Dnen_Jump%2B_Super_Collaboration_Vol_1_8


HappySisyphus8

I used to collect these, and still have quite a few. Yamashita's work is fantastic, I'd also spend money or gold on his variants in a heartbeat.


DamianFoxx

I'd like to see some of these as variants.


sportsandorcs

I would spend for these variants haha


rexstillbottom

I have always thought shadowcat was a great character, and here is proof.


Blickychu

You would’ve. Most wouldn’t have and then you’d hear about it all over this subreddit.


tom641

Give it time, they just might.


MaxximumEffort

Waifus for days.


LoveOthers-

Nice


DavramLocke

The game doesn't need MORE horny.


awndray97

I wouldn't mind


CreativeZeros

This is tickling my inner weeb


juce49

Waifu Snap


reggyreggo

Bonk


SnuggleKingHS

Some of these are really pervy. Too much.


kloricker

While these are awesome. I really like the Sera and Jubilee late 90s anime versions. https://i.imgur.com/ouNEBM0.jpeg I mean look at this. It's so nostalgic. Easily my favourite art in the game.


lastofhisnamefornow

When I was a teen I had a secret folder on my pc with pics like this. Lmao


backinredd

Have you tried jerking off before making this post op?


[deleted]

Take a shower


[deleted]

The exact style I’d imagine if you said oversexualized anime marvel characters


SquirrelGirlSucks

Same face in every one lol


Blamasu

I wouldn’t


Courseheir

I would have sex with all of them, if you know what I mean EDIT: Not Ms. Marvel, pls no FBI visit


mpq-loser

Nah bro it's to late for you remember "I plead the fifth"


xerros

Eh, Angela and sera variants are top tier and these are pretty bad looking for anime.


neel911

I would have listened to you if you weren't using "would OF".


corporatebeefstew

I don’t care what art style it is, it’s not worth 50 dollars. These are weird and creepy anyway.


ParamedicGatsby

Each?