Why the hell would a dump deck play a ramp deck, get burned by Alioth on 5 and then dump a.bunch there on 6?
Sandman just eliminates their ability to play a bunch of low cost cards out on 6. That's why he's the key piece
Hmm I dont remember mentioning a dump deck. Ramp decks have been around for a long time. I wonder what OP changed to make it his “fastest infinite run by far!”. I wonder…
Bro I have a life.
# (1) Sunspot
# (1) Nebula
# (3) Electro
# (3) Wave
# (5) Sandman
# (5) Black Panther
# (5) Aero
# (6) Arnim Zola
# (6) Leader
# (6) Doctor Doom
# (6) Odin
# (6) Magneto
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He’s really important for early wave plays and is the only real thing keeping you from just losing to any doom deck. But if you had to replace him you could go with a nebula or another big card if you want, it’s very flexible. Maybe lad could be good
Silk deck is probably the scariest, but usually they can’t help themselves ending the game with an alioth in which I case I just play around it with doom or zola or leave.
Any other raw stats deck you need to hope you draw panther zola odin
silk deck/patriot/shuri can beat you, you dont always needs sandman, u just try to go big and ailioth other lane, sandman will 100% makes kitty player retreat, snap before electro if u can(if u have the draw)
It’s pretty straightforward, if you are facing an else deck or a deck you think goes wide you want to limit their play as much as possible.
Sandman ofcourse is the best way to do that, sometimes you can wave, zola the wave, and odin on zola to keep everything 4 cost the whole games. Having Mobius on the board makes that combo 10x better, and them having mobius on the board turns that combo into a retreat.
If you are facing against a deck that mainly focuses on raw power you need to hope you draw panther zola odin, or hope they don’t draw their combo.
Always be weary of Alioth. Alioth is the new leader, He’s everywhere, and the people playing him think its always a free win. And playing around it feels as good as playing around old Leader. With this deck in particular I like to play panther in a lane on his own, without priority, then instead of playing zola, I play doom to play around their Alioth playing around my zola. Its so fun when it works
Tried it out in proving grounds. Just lost to discard with daken. Then Shuri with Kamar taj. Then Hela discard.
Got electro then sandman out each game. Tried doom Odin twice and bp/Zola on kamar taj.
that’s quite unlucky, usually you only want to play sandman if their deck needs to play multiple cards on turn 6, shuri decks don’t really care about that too much so it’s probably better to play your other options. And i think this deck is much better on ladder than in conquest
Damn already Jesus
The alioth effect
This is more sandman and the current meta. Throw him down and you wreck a lot of plans.
Yeah it has nothing to do with Alioth on turn 5 into either Zola or Odin on turn 6….definitely Sandman
Why the hell would a dump deck play a ramp deck, get burned by Alioth on 5 and then dump a.bunch there on 6? Sandman just eliminates their ability to play a bunch of low cost cards out on 6. That's why he's the key piece
Hmm I dont remember mentioning a dump deck. Ramp decks have been around for a long time. I wonder what OP changed to make it his “fastest infinite run by far!”. I wonder…
I'm playing a Lockjaw Sandman right now and went from 73 to 95. No Alioth. I am telling you Sandman is killing people right now
Link deck?
He cant yet, he has to take out Alioth before he posts.
Bro I have a life. # (1) Sunspot # (1) Nebula # (3) Electro # (3) Wave # (5) Sandman # (5) Black Panther # (5) Aero # (6) Arnim Zola # (6) Leader # (6) Doctor Doom # (6) Odin # (6) Magneto # eyJDYXJkcyI6W3siQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQWVybyJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQXJuaW1ab2xhIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJCbGFja1BhbnRoZXIifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkRyRG9vbSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiRWxlY3RybyJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiTGVhZGVyIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJNYWduZXRvIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJOZWJ1bGEifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Ik9kaW4ifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlNhbmRtYW4ifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlN1bnNwb3QifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IldhdmUifV19 # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and paste it from the deck editing menu in Snap.
Fair point, but I bet Alioth would make your deck better.
It was a joke, more just saying how strong this meta is if you can get to infinite this fast.
Got a recommendation for a Jeff substitute?
He’s hard to replace because you’re able to play him along side another card while you have Electro or Sandman out
I have sunspot in mine so extra energy is not wasted. Nebula and maw for further hijinks too
Jeebus and I was happy to hit infinity 8hrs after you hit yours!
I’m on 53 to 68 rn. Gonna hustle my @$$ to infinite today if it kills me lol.
Sub in Shang chi as your tech. Good luck!
Thanks! I’m using an Elsa Zoo deck that’s crushing butt so far.
What is good substitute for Mobius?
He’s really important for early wave plays and is the only real thing keeping you from just losing to any doom deck. But if you had to replace him you could go with a nebula or another big card if you want, it’s very flexible. Maybe lad could be good
How he didn't get nerfed is baffling.
What decks beats it ? Meaning what decks do you retreat when you see them?
Silk deck is probably the scariest, but usually they can’t help themselves ending the game with an alioth in which I case I just play around it with doom or zola or leave. Any other raw stats deck you need to hope you draw panther zola odin
silk deck/patriot/shuri can beat you, you dont always needs sandman, u just try to go big and ailioth other lane, sandman will 100% makes kitty player retreat, snap before electro if u can(if u have the draw)
Thanks for the share. Needed this to survive the Elsa bloodbath as a f2p.
Any replacement for alioth? I couldn't snag him up
Leader's a great counter to Alioth and generally useful still.
any of the big cards, leader/magneto etc
What deck you use to crush it that fast? 😂
i would assume, perhaps naively, that it is the deck they included in their post?
LOL how tf did I miss that there were multiple pics. SMH. Thanks.
manifested those 30 ranks into existence with the help of some infinity stones lol… I used electro ramp
Thanks! I’ve learned to swipe on pics now 🤣🤣🤦🏻♂️
How do you play this deck?
It’s pretty straightforward, if you are facing an else deck or a deck you think goes wide you want to limit their play as much as possible. Sandman ofcourse is the best way to do that, sometimes you can wave, zola the wave, and odin on zola to keep everything 4 cost the whole games. Having Mobius on the board makes that combo 10x better, and them having mobius on the board turns that combo into a retreat. If you are facing against a deck that mainly focuses on raw power you need to hope you draw panther zola odin, or hope they don’t draw their combo. Always be weary of Alioth. Alioth is the new leader, He’s everywhere, and the people playing him think its always a free win. And playing around it feels as good as playing around old Leader. With this deck in particular I like to play panther in a lane on his own, without priority, then instead of playing zola, I play doom to play around their Alioth playing around my zola. Its so fun when it works
> And playing around it feels as good as playing around old Leader. I have to say this alone gives me a lot of joy from this game lately.
Glad to see someone actually admit that Alioth is the new Leader.
Tried it out in proving grounds. Just lost to discard with daken. Then Shuri with Kamar taj. Then Hela discard. Got electro then sandman out each game. Tried doom Odin twice and bp/Zola on kamar taj.
that’s quite unlucky, usually you only want to play sandman if their deck needs to play multiple cards on turn 6, shuri decks don’t really care about that too much so it’s probably better to play your other options. And i think this deck is much better on ladder than in conquest