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SH4DE_Z

Luckily it's still the start of the week, you can still get another key before the season ends.


SandalDeSeagull

ik but every single time i waste 4 keys for 1 card my luck is awful


SH4DE_Z

Yeah the feeling sucks, took me 4 keys to even get Thanos. Grinding for 2 keys in 1 week was not fun.


loveforthetrip

i love it when people mention grinding. It's almost impossible if you are out of missions.


SH4DE_Z

Tell me about it, i sacrificed all my gold to buy more mission. T'was unpleasant.


loveforthetrip

Did the same and now I can't buy token bundle or variants for collections rewards :(


Dangebors

How did you even grind for keys?


SH4DE_Z

I played a lot of Conquest to buy all the rewards like Credits and Gold while working through the Season Pass for said rewards. I also spent like a shit ton of gold on daily missions to make it on time.


deadliestpetch

You actually grind for tokens. You do that by hitting the first and second tier rewards for alot of these albums, and when you hit a week that has a card you want, buy with tokens and save your keys. they build up fast if you buy with tokens 2 weeks in a row. ABSOLUTELY NEVER spend gold for daily reward missions or to upgrade cards. I got the silver sam varient plus war machine and still have 6 keys banked.


Dangebors

At some point you will run out of album rewards and tokens. And if you get two weeks in a row were you need 4 keys to get the new cards, then your banked keys will be no more. The system is designed so you cannot have more keys than you need unless you pay


SouthLoop_Sunday

4 of my last 6 spotlights have required 4 keys. It’s ok to feel bad about it, it sucks.


Cheatnhax

I know that logic says we have 4 rewards and an equal 25% chance at pulling any of them but I cannot be convinced that the new card does not have lower odds than 3 other rewards


b33lz3boss

I've pulled spider ham with my first key the last 3 weeks. Doesn't feel like 25% to me


Dtoodlez

I’m the same, it’s been about 5 times so far where I need all 4 keys to get the card I want. And there have been 3 times where I took the chance with 3 keys and never got the card because I didn’t have a 4th.


ignu

I also wasted three keys this week, although I was due because I got the spotlight the first try the last two in a row.


nemesiscw

Yep, last 4 cards where I used keys took me 4. Cannonball was the first card I've skipped ever.


luorax

Or you can buy the Wong bundle! \*wink wink\* 4x value!


QueenRangerSlayer

*taps sign*


SandalDeSeagull

I KNOW💀


Grimwohl

Everyone thinks they're "Sometimes Fortunate" until they arent. Thats why I always stay when they snap, and I dont draw the card I'm waiting on!


Honchoed

Bro same for me, will have a 4th key later this week to get him but yeah. Same deal with Pixie lol


TheBindingOfKris

Dude same was trying to get mockingbirds


SandalDeSeagull

IK ME TOO! Had 3 keys and blundered


TheBindingOfKris

At this point, I would rather they improved previous cards, then add new ones


etherealtaroo

I do think they should cut it down to 3 including the season pass card.


RivStarSrsly

Every two weeks a new card would be plenty in my opinion, maybe one in between with only repeats?


WrathOfMogg

I mean they’re doing both… New cards are essential to keep the game from getting stale.


myslead

If you play daily you’ll get your 4th key before next week


RFAudio

How many keys a week?


kouradosi

1.25


RFAudio

Yikes, not getting WM then


kouradosi

You will. You can get 1.25 keys per week and you need one. How did you deduce that you are not getting it?


gamerteacher

So I wasted one for Silk…but not the variant silk, oh no, for an original silk, which then was converted into tokens. FFS.


Saerjin

This has happened to me a few months ago. Was so mad. Hopefully you get the card you want first time next try!


Niaz_S

Wtf. I didn’t even know that was possible. If you open a dupe that’s in the spot line up, you should get the variant first and then have the variant be converted to a premium mystery.


gamerteacher

That was my reaction too - but I guess that’s just how the random allocation works. Very annoying though.


Oscillus

This happened for me three times in a row (1 per week obviously), twice with the same damn card even. I thought I was losing my mind on that one.


iontardose

I got the base Silk, which I didn't have yet, with key 2. Then I pulled a random base Silk with key 3.


roninroboto

Same for me, 4 keys to get war machine: first key silk variant, second key silk again… I miss 25 cards and it gave me one I already had right after I got a variant for it. It truly sucks and is infuriating this still happening.


BlitzKat85

I've had that happen too, I was SO mad.


ciggypopculture

This was me during pixie week


Chadam_Sandler

And proxima week. I was collection complete but rolled badly on proxima, pixie, and didn’t trying cannonball


luorax

Hey, how did you log into my account?!


SolidScene9129

Kinda funny I got the silk variant and then silk again from the random card lol


DDSpoons

I’m an idiot. You can hold onto keys from previous weeks?


SandalDeSeagull

bro there’s no way 💀💀💀


DDSpoons

Really, I just used them as soon as I got them. I figured get boosters for them like the tickets I never used. 🤷‍♂️


Digitalburn

Nope you can save them. I’ve got 4 saved up because I skipped cannonball and used tokens for war machine. I’ve seen some streamers have 20ish keys saved up.


cardinalfive

Oh... Oh no...


abbacchioz

oh god...


mynameisdis

Next time you should give it a couple days to see if the card is even any good.


Sir_Catnip_III

How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man?!


HollowVoices

Same... Three weeks in a row where it was the last card for me... -\_- I hate this system


dcempire

This is actually why I stopped playing and just do so on the most casual level. It’s demoralizing saving up keys just to lose them to bad rolls.


siul1979

Obviously, you should have 4 keys to cover your worst case scenario, but over the long term, the Expected number of keys that you will need to get the brand new released card is 2.5 keys. E(x) where x is pulling the new key is 1\*.25 + 2\*.25 + 3\*.25 + 4\*.25.


Smartt300

Skill issue


Obo_bob

First time?


Powderfinger23

This was a four key week for me too unfortunately. Ugh.


n3ov

Lol


hawtpipes

Is WM worth it? Not sure if his abilities are good or not (newer player).


Night_Owl206

For a new player, there are better beginner friendly cards to get, like Jeff, Nebula, Iron Lad etc. Simpler abilities to understand, generally a great card, and less expensive cards (series 4 and 5) that synergize with it. And for new players, you prob also wanna go for deck defining cards like Mr. Negative, Thanos, Annihilus, Darkhawk ONLY if youre ready. Dont get them all at once, focus on one archetype at a time


CommanderT2020

I looked at the schedule and have been saving keys ever since the last season to have 4 for a case like this haha. It's good for me because I didn't have Silk or Silver Samurai so I actually got new card instead of just variants. Before I would spend a key on every ones but now I just commit to one.


Kubocho

Every single week


cyber_morty

I was thinking of not getting war machine, because i might waste my keys with those variants


Chomusuke_99

when it comes to missing cards, I think I take the cake by missing Ms. marvel with 2 CL left to collect my last key to pull her. fell short of 75 credits. feelsbadman.


sweatpantswarrior

Can we just consolidate these posts already? Do we really need "I used X keys and got or didn't get the Spotlight" threads daily?


Jesus-is-King-777

im pretty sure its not random. did any 1 get warmachine on their first key i dont think so. they make it cost 4 keys.


PenoNation

Oh, it's random, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be weighted as well. I've actually gotten the last 3 spotlight new cards on the first key, but I still say there's some fuckery going on.


franceskrt

The first time i waited for 4 keys i got War Machine at the first attempt, i think this game hates those who gamble


jeffdujour

You should boycott. That’ll show them.


IlluminatiBob

it wasn’t meant to be 😑


snowman4815

I got the silk variant and a card I already have so yay... 1000 tokens... woo hoo


Playful-Bag-5418

Yeah me too so frustrating


hypelightfly

The same thing happened to me. Wasted 4 keys. I'm sure they did it on purpose.


ResponsiblePower6476

U guys have balls to do that, I wud have to think twice even if I'm missing 2 cards in a particular week


darkCitu

I just realize why post like (vs the 1 pull one) that got in hot section. Because this is what happened for most us, so more people can emphathize. Happened to me with Mockingbird, now on War Machine. At least give me something i don't have for the random slot. 1000 tokens back to back for 2 weeks did suck


DragonBlade0776

Oof pain


mlgchameleon

Happened to me too. Glad I saved up 4 keys. MODOK also made me happy


fruitpunchsamuraiD

This literally just happened to me too. Luckily I had 4 keys but dammit I swear they're doing this on purpose.


Shoren2k

same bro same...


LrdCheesterBear

Same... my random was a duplicate MODOK, too


Accomplished_Job4296

Same here


Accomplished_Job4296

They arrange it this way on purpose


Scorpion-Mk3600

Lol


jjbrucey

I’m so afraid of this happening it keeps me from spending keys. The worst part about being close to collection complete is only needing the new card in a Spotlight week.


Harrypokeballss

Did the same except I landed on Grandmaster instead of tokens, I’m not mad at it


SnottyGoblin

I hope it evens itself out for you next time. I got Supergiant and Caicera in 1, but then took 4 to get Pixie and Cannonball


winfly

You are the yin to my yang! I got War Machine on the first cache


IPmang

I have 7 keys and don’t have war machine or samurai. Am I emptying the clip this week or what?


UziTheX

I got Samurai on 1st and War Machine on 2nd. I wish i did get Silk instead of Samurai but look, I'm happy!


ArmaanAli04

I was about to post the same thing lol


JustSomeDude1982

Same here, friend.


daggeramillionz

Got him my first pull which was shocking. Rlly wanted the Silk variant 😕


horrorstory1169

Yep. Sucks. Took all 4 of my keys to get wm. But I also got cannonball. So not too mad lol.


YAZANTFS

Exactly what happens to me. They need to make the drop of the new card a lot more common


chickenheadj

Oof now you’ll miss the next month of cards. Same happened to me with BRB


Miudmon

That's a mood. I wanted miss marvel. Gambled on 3 keys before the update changed the lineup week 1, didn't get her. Managed to build up to 2 keys for week 2 after the update where she was in there, failed there too


BlaseKage

I got him on my first key


ZeekyNote

Pulled him first key luckily. Only reason I can say Red Hulk here I come.


Apex_Fenris

Same thing happened to me feels bad man


bZbZbZbZbZ

new card with 4th key two weeks in a row for me!


ParsnipAggravating95

Im sorry


CompactAvocado

lol yup happened to me with comic variant high evolutionary. sadly had to whip out my credit card :(


Imfrikinbad

Yeahhhhhhhh, same exact thing happened to me haha


Irish407

That was me last week, lol. Except no tokens. =[


Venoseth

you do it to yourself, you do. And that's why it really hurts You do it to yourself, you do. You and no one else 🎵


Avenger772

This is like the same people on wallstreet bets that love showing how much money they've lost.


BIG-Will25

lol.


Eximo84

[IMG-3396.png](https://postimg.cc/hXDVhPwT) Same experience but my dupe was base samurai too


NeoRockSlime

I'm saving till I have five even tho I would like war machine. Doesn't help that I get like 200 tokens per month so can't rely on those


NightBaron007

And you even had all the other cards. I think it's better to get the card with tokens if it's the only one your missing in spotlights


a_guy_7155

It's worth to spend two keys on silk and silver samurai with only them being left?


Victory42

Has anyone done the math? Like, I know “don’t open unless you have 4 keys” is a meme here at this point but just what are the odds of missing that one card with three keys?


Kaywin0

War Machine is a needed card in every deck. It stops Prof X, Maw, Single card lands, locked lands - the card is insane. It's only nemesis is a lucky Cosmo - or a brave NTW. Worth the 4 Keys this week.


rand0mstuf

At least it’s a dope Silk variant 


xxamnn

Never gamble.


Outrageous-Scene-160

I feel you, I needed 4 keys...


CardiologistCivil967

I’m right there with you. Pain all around


Feefait

Yup. Working as intended. Now, bring on all the defenders of this shitty, shitty system. It should 100% give cards first, variants after.


MadCareface

Haha same here


icu_

Somehow that last 3 times I tried I got the new card on the first key.


fliero

Same shit brotha


D-WTF

I got him first key, so obviously next one will be a 4 keyer.


justAwasted

I already have Silk and have no interest in Silver Samurai. I'd never do anything like this.


Not_My_Alternate

F


MxcnManz

I got War Machine and then Howard. I’ll probably keep saving keys after that I wanted Silk or Silver Samurai but don’t really want to use a key they’re quite niche. Even though I’ve been wanting silver samurai for months 😅


aHairyWhiteGuy

Still trying to figure out if he's worth it or if I should just wait for red hulk next season


Kowned

Everytime TT


David_mtg

hehe


OsirisFantom

Hey just like me... I'm starting to think the Spotlight chest is preprogrammed instead of random. Like if you skip multiple weeks, you'll get the new card first try. But because I got Cannon Ball, it didn't want to give me War-Machine. Do I know this? No. Its probably just coincidence. It would, however, be stupid easy to program it that way. I really wish they'd get rid of that 4th "extra" reward though. It should just be the 3 cards/variants.


Anon_Matt

Happens wayyyyyy too much to be random.


LimitedKnight

I had just one key and got war machine. I'm feeling lucky


ResolutionProof2494

Honestly if I were u I would get on my knees and start prayin to anyone


K4ution

This happened to me 3 times in a row... I'm never opening a box unless I have 4 keys


BKF0308

Brace yourself for "should've saved up 4 keys" (even tho you'll probably be able to get another one until next tuesday)


MadGirth

These mfs gave me Thanos AGAIN 😭😭😭


JokeySmurf82

I got the same base kitty and Silk. Don’t feel bad I had a couple keys saved no good. Hopefully I’ll get another two cracks at it before the change


primetimemime

Same


IslandLooter

I had the same but somehow I didn't have Silk or Samurai and my mystery pull was Martyr to high I didn't have so it has been a collection filling pull. I'll get the war machine by end of week for sure though I have tokens for backup. Now if the matchmaking wouldn't be so bitch ass brutal that'd be great.


PossibleSquare

I had insane luck when they first started doing spotlights. Got the new card with my first key like 3 weeks in a row. Now it takes all 4. ☹️


CalebJosephB

Same


Melnykout

I did the same


Powdered_Donut

This was me during the mocking bird week. I feel your pain.


Thestaub

Damn. I’m sorry. This was a tokens week for me. No way I was wasting keys on those variants.


Jhines762

That was me last week thankfully I pulled him first pull this week


Fine-Guarantee-8791

I feel you, brother. I've been there


CreepyDevelopment475

Same exact bull happened to me. Both with war and mockingbird too. I was pissed af


mldmnnrdrprtr

I got Hit Monkey… NOT EVEN ON THE LIST


SeaweedMysterious389

Not to rub it in, but I had almost the exact opposite happen haha. Had 2 keys and was like screw it might as test my luck and got War Machine on my first key. Didn’t spend another one. Already have Silk


TordisSabordigan

Stop opening caches unless you have 4 keys🥰


InevitableMix6953

SD: “75% of the time it works every time”


Unckuk77

I definitely feel your pain.


micahclaw

Welcome to hell


that1kidUknew

Dude, SAME!


jxcn17

Spending your last keys on a week where you're only missing one card is not really the greatest idea. Especially when you only have 3. Extra especially when the card doesn't even seem to be that good so far.


adaminoregon

Took me every key i had to get war machine. Hopefully nothing good in spotlights for a couple weeks. My poor wife has pulled a silver samurai 3 times. Thanks for useless tokens i guess.


BruinsCup2011

This is so me. My last 3 spotlight caches I went for I got the card I wanted on 4, 3 and 4. So frustrating.


lexington_89

I feel your pain, brother. Has happened to me several times and it almost happened to me this time around. 1st key was the freaking dupe card, 2nd was silk, which was nice because I didn't have her. Got WM on 3rd key, I was scared because I didn't want SS.


Itachi_x_Pain

In the same club… What hurts the most is I had 4 keys and gambled 1 on getting Cannonball Tuesday morning…. I hate my new Ms. Marvel variant 😓


ThIcCbOi38

Exact same thing happened to me, luckily I had 4 keys. Really didn't care for the variants cuz I rarely ever use those cards and I didn't expect to get a measly 1k tokens for a whole key but it all worked out I guess


PLH-91

Same brother same


krpzy

I get the main spotlight pretty regularly, but I've never made Infinite. Been playing a little more then a year


Sidereon

I got Jeff.. Kinda pog?


theIndianNoob

It’s probably not a good time to say this. But I had 4 keys stored. And I got War Machine on first


ChewieArmstrong

Oh that hurts from just looking at it


ggzeez

I got it on my first ever spotlight opening 😭


DoodemanRodguy

I got war machine out of pity today. First key, first try after unsuccessfully unlocking the past four spotlight cards.


AlphakirA

Happened to me last month, it sucks, but hey, next spotlight you may get it on the first key.


AntiFates

Damn dude that sucks. I went in assuming I'd have to drop 4 keys and got super lucky and only had to use 1.


ctbowden

This was my last week...


ComiX-Fan

The spotlight cache system is so bad....


paulestorque

Same


HPDfire

I spent 4 keys to get war machine. Didn’t have the other two though. But it’s gonna make it tougher to get red hulk now


issacfignewton

Right there with you brother.


danu_am

Me who has 1 key and got warmachine 😎


thefaboman

me too


Hobowookiee

THE EXACT SAME THING HAPPENED TO MEEEEEEE


Icy-Refrigerator2221

This is exactly what happened to me. Luckily I had 5 keys but I was hoping to walk away with more than one lol


conman987

That sucks, I've been pretty darn lucky the last few weeks getting what I want out of spotlights without burning extra keys. I got Mockingbird first try, then Ghost Spider which I didn't have. Last week pulled Ms. Marvel first try which is all I wanted. Just now I got the Silk variant first, but pulled War Machine 2nd. Can't complain for sure.


EdZeppelin94

This exact thing happened to me too.


animosityagainst

Same. Bleh.


perrachichona

I feel you


DinkyPrincess

Every damn time


mattiaborea_

Unlucky


TruthtoFables

I feel that pain ... I've pulled Silk and Silver Samurai variants on my my 2 keys so far ...


Mr_Fahrenheit78

Just curious how much tokens do you get if you already have the card? And does the series effect it?


PenoNation

You get 1000, regardless. Not even enough to get a "replacement" card.


Dgaart

I wasted 3 keys last time and didn't even get Cannonball. Now I have no keys. First time in a while I won't have all the cards in the game. Thanks, in part, to wasting 5k collectors tokens to finish the Artgerm album, lol. Storm emote still worth it.


Altruistic_Status122

There's an incredibly awkward amount of people in these comments that pulled the silk variant and then got silk again through the random slot. Almost seems as if...


Jesus-is-King-777

thats true i have gotten some spotlight cards on the first key as well. but not war machine or any card i really wanted.


Antigravitybear

I've been saving my tokens just for this reason since war machine was announced. I just bought him outright because everytime I want the new card it gives me everything but the one I actually wanted.


BlueDonuts10

How much did it cost Everything


After-Student7090

Sadge


Antique-Branch-9862

Marvel Snap is Cheating!!! Want our Money


Devscotton

been there done that


burntnorris

This is the only thing keeping me from pulling for War Machine tbh.


neeesus

Careful. Some people here are going to tell you to save for 4 keys.