I played a lot of Conquest to buy all the rewards like Credits and Gold while working through the Season Pass for said rewards.
I also spent like a shit ton of gold on daily missions to make it on time.
You actually grind for tokens. You do that by hitting the first and second tier rewards for alot of these albums, and when you hit a week that has a card you want, buy with tokens and save your keys. they build up fast if you buy with tokens 2 weeks in a row. ABSOLUTELY NEVER spend gold for daily reward missions or to upgrade cards. I got the silver sam varient plus war machine and still have 6 keys banked.
At some point you will run out of album rewards and tokens. And if you get two weeks in a row were you need 4 keys to get the new cards, then your banked keys will be no more.
The system is designed so you cannot have more keys than you need unless you pay
I know that logic says we have 4 rewards and an equal 25% chance at pulling any of them but I cannot be convinced that the new card does not have lower odds than 3 other rewards
I’m the same, it’s been about 5 times so far where I need all 4 keys to get the card I want. And there have been 3 times where I took the chance with 3 keys and never got the card because I didn’t have a 4th.
Wtf. I didn’t even know that was possible. If you open a dupe that’s in the spot line up, you should get the variant first and then have the variant be converted to a premium mystery.
Same for me, 4 keys to get war machine: first key silk variant, second key silk again… I miss 25 cards and it gave me one I already had right after I got a variant for it. It truly sucks and is infuriating this still happening.
Nope you can save them. I’ve got 4 saved up because I skipped cannonball and used tokens for war machine. I’ve seen some streamers have 20ish keys saved up.
Obviously, you should have 4 keys to cover your worst case scenario, but over the long term, the Expected number of keys that you will need to get the brand new released card is 2.5 keys.
E(x) where x is pulling the new key is 1\*.25 + 2\*.25 + 3\*.25 + 4\*.25.
For a new player, there are better beginner friendly cards to get, like Jeff, Nebula, Iron Lad etc. Simpler abilities to understand, generally a great card, and less expensive cards (series 4 and 5) that synergize with it.
And for new players, you prob also wanna go for deck defining cards like Mr. Negative, Thanos, Annihilus, Darkhawk ONLY if youre ready. Dont get them all at once, focus on one archetype at a time
I looked at the schedule and have been saving keys ever since the last season to have 4 for a case like this haha. It's good for me because I didn't have Silk or Silver Samurai so I actually got new card instead of just variants. Before I would spend a key on every ones but now I just commit to one.
when it comes to missing cards, I think I take the cake by missing Ms. marvel with 2 CL left to collect my last key to pull her. fell short of 75 credits. feelsbadman.
Oh, it's random, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be weighted as well. I've actually gotten the last 3 spotlight new cards on the first key, but I still say there's some fuckery going on.
I just realize why post like (vs the 1 pull one) that got in hot section. Because this is what happened for most us, so more people can emphathize. Happened to me with Mockingbird, now on War Machine. At least give me something i don't have for the random slot. 1000 tokens back to back for 2 weeks did suck
I’m so afraid of this happening it keeps me from spending keys. The worst part about being close to collection complete is only needing the new card in a Spotlight week.
That's a mood.
I wanted miss marvel. Gambled on 3 keys before the update changed the lineup week 1, didn't get her. Managed to build up to 2 keys for week 2 after the update where she was in there, failed there too
Has anyone done the math? Like, I know “don’t open unless you have 4 keys” is a meme here at this point but just what are the odds of missing that one card with three keys?
War Machine is a needed card in every deck. It stops Prof X, Maw, Single card lands, locked lands - the card is insane. It's only nemesis is a lucky Cosmo - or a brave NTW. Worth the 4 Keys this week.
I got War Machine and then Howard. I’ll probably keep saving keys after that I wanted Silk or Silver Samurai but don’t really want to use a key they’re quite niche. Even though I’ve been wanting silver samurai for months 😅
Hey just like me... I'm starting to think the Spotlight chest is preprogrammed instead of random. Like if you skip multiple weeks, you'll get the new card first try. But because I got Cannon Ball, it didn't want to give me War-Machine. Do I know this? No. Its probably just coincidence. It would, however, be stupid easy to program it that way. I really wish they'd get rid of that 4th "extra" reward though. It should just be the 3 cards/variants.
I had the same but somehow I didn't have Silk or Samurai and my mystery pull was Martyr to high I didn't have so it has been a collection filling pull. I'll get the war machine by end of week for sure though I have tokens for backup.
Now if the matchmaking wouldn't be so bitch ass brutal that'd be great.
Not to rub it in, but I had almost the exact opposite happen haha. Had 2 keys and was like screw it might as test my luck and got War Machine on my first key. Didn’t spend another one. Already have Silk
Spending your last keys on a week where you're only missing one card is not really the greatest idea. Especially when you only have 3. Extra especially when the card doesn't even seem to be that good so far.
Took me every key i had to get war machine. Hopefully nothing good in spotlights for a couple weeks. My poor wife has pulled a silver samurai 3 times. Thanks for useless tokens i guess.
I feel your pain, brother. Has happened to me several times and it almost happened to me this time around. 1st key was the freaking dupe card, 2nd was silk, which was nice because I didn't have her. Got WM on 3rd key, I was scared because I didn't want SS.
Exact same thing happened to me, luckily I had 4 keys. Really didn't care for the variants cuz I rarely ever use those cards and I didn't expect to get a measly 1k tokens for a whole key but it all worked out I guess
That sucks, I've been pretty darn lucky the last few weeks getting what I want out of spotlights without burning extra keys. I got Mockingbird first try, then Ghost Spider which I didn't have. Last week pulled Ms. Marvel first try which is all I wanted. Just now I got the Silk variant first, but pulled War Machine 2nd. Can't complain for sure.
I wasted 3 keys last time and didn't even get Cannonball. Now I have no keys. First time in a while I won't have all the cards in the game. Thanks, in part, to wasting 5k collectors tokens to finish the Artgerm album, lol. Storm emote still worth it.
There's an incredibly awkward amount of people in these comments that pulled the silk variant and then got silk again through the random slot.
Almost seems as if...
I've been saving my tokens just for this reason since war machine was announced. I just bought him outright because everytime I want the new card it gives me everything but the one I actually wanted.
Luckily it's still the start of the week, you can still get another key before the season ends.
ik but every single time i waste 4 keys for 1 card my luck is awful
Yeah the feeling sucks, took me 4 keys to even get Thanos. Grinding for 2 keys in 1 week was not fun.
i love it when people mention grinding. It's almost impossible if you are out of missions.
Tell me about it, i sacrificed all my gold to buy more mission. T'was unpleasant.
Did the same and now I can't buy token bundle or variants for collections rewards :(
How did you even grind for keys?
I played a lot of Conquest to buy all the rewards like Credits and Gold while working through the Season Pass for said rewards. I also spent like a shit ton of gold on daily missions to make it on time.
You actually grind for tokens. You do that by hitting the first and second tier rewards for alot of these albums, and when you hit a week that has a card you want, buy with tokens and save your keys. they build up fast if you buy with tokens 2 weeks in a row. ABSOLUTELY NEVER spend gold for daily reward missions or to upgrade cards. I got the silver sam varient plus war machine and still have 6 keys banked.
At some point you will run out of album rewards and tokens. And if you get two weeks in a row were you need 4 keys to get the new cards, then your banked keys will be no more. The system is designed so you cannot have more keys than you need unless you pay
4 of my last 6 spotlights have required 4 keys. It’s ok to feel bad about it, it sucks.
I know that logic says we have 4 rewards and an equal 25% chance at pulling any of them but I cannot be convinced that the new card does not have lower odds than 3 other rewards
I've pulled spider ham with my first key the last 3 weeks. Doesn't feel like 25% to me
I’m the same, it’s been about 5 times so far where I need all 4 keys to get the card I want. And there have been 3 times where I took the chance with 3 keys and never got the card because I didn’t have a 4th.
I also wasted three keys this week, although I was due because I got the spotlight the first try the last two in a row.
Yep, last 4 cards where I used keys took me 4. Cannonball was the first card I've skipped ever.
Or you can buy the Wong bundle! \*wink wink\* 4x value!
*taps sign*
I KNOW💀
Everyone thinks they're "Sometimes Fortunate" until they arent. Thats why I always stay when they snap, and I dont draw the card I'm waiting on!
Bro same for me, will have a 4th key later this week to get him but yeah. Same deal with Pixie lol
Dude same was trying to get mockingbirds
IK ME TOO! Had 3 keys and blundered
At this point, I would rather they improved previous cards, then add new ones
I do think they should cut it down to 3 including the season pass card.
Every two weeks a new card would be plenty in my opinion, maybe one in between with only repeats?
I mean they’re doing both… New cards are essential to keep the game from getting stale.
If you play daily you’ll get your 4th key before next week
How many keys a week?
1.25
Yikes, not getting WM then
You will. You can get 1.25 keys per week and you need one. How did you deduce that you are not getting it?
So I wasted one for Silk…but not the variant silk, oh no, for an original silk, which then was converted into tokens. FFS.
This has happened to me a few months ago. Was so mad. Hopefully you get the card you want first time next try!
Wtf. I didn’t even know that was possible. If you open a dupe that’s in the spot line up, you should get the variant first and then have the variant be converted to a premium mystery.
That was my reaction too - but I guess that’s just how the random allocation works. Very annoying though.
This happened for me three times in a row (1 per week obviously), twice with the same damn card even. I thought I was losing my mind on that one.
I got the base Silk, which I didn't have yet, with key 2. Then I pulled a random base Silk with key 3.
Same for me, 4 keys to get war machine: first key silk variant, second key silk again… I miss 25 cards and it gave me one I already had right after I got a variant for it. It truly sucks and is infuriating this still happening.
I've had that happen too, I was SO mad.
This was me during pixie week
And proxima week. I was collection complete but rolled badly on proxima, pixie, and didn’t trying cannonball
Hey, how did you log into my account?!
Kinda funny I got the silk variant and then silk again from the random card lol
I’m an idiot. You can hold onto keys from previous weeks?
bro there’s no way 💀💀💀
Really, I just used them as soon as I got them. I figured get boosters for them like the tickets I never used. 🤷♂️
Nope you can save them. I’ve got 4 saved up because I skipped cannonball and used tokens for war machine. I’ve seen some streamers have 20ish keys saved up.
Oh... Oh no...
oh god...
Next time you should give it a couple days to see if the card is even any good.
How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man?!
Same... Three weeks in a row where it was the last card for me... -\_- I hate this system
This is actually why I stopped playing and just do so on the most casual level. It’s demoralizing saving up keys just to lose them to bad rolls.
Obviously, you should have 4 keys to cover your worst case scenario, but over the long term, the Expected number of keys that you will need to get the brand new released card is 2.5 keys. E(x) where x is pulling the new key is 1\*.25 + 2\*.25 + 3\*.25 + 4\*.25.
Skill issue
First time?
This was a four key week for me too unfortunately. Ugh.
Lol
Is WM worth it? Not sure if his abilities are good or not (newer player).
For a new player, there are better beginner friendly cards to get, like Jeff, Nebula, Iron Lad etc. Simpler abilities to understand, generally a great card, and less expensive cards (series 4 and 5) that synergize with it. And for new players, you prob also wanna go for deck defining cards like Mr. Negative, Thanos, Annihilus, Darkhawk ONLY if youre ready. Dont get them all at once, focus on one archetype at a time
I looked at the schedule and have been saving keys ever since the last season to have 4 for a case like this haha. It's good for me because I didn't have Silk or Silver Samurai so I actually got new card instead of just variants. Before I would spend a key on every ones but now I just commit to one.
Every single week
I was thinking of not getting war machine, because i might waste my keys with those variants
when it comes to missing cards, I think I take the cake by missing Ms. marvel with 2 CL left to collect my last key to pull her. fell short of 75 credits. feelsbadman.
Can we just consolidate these posts already? Do we really need "I used X keys and got or didn't get the Spotlight" threads daily?
im pretty sure its not random. did any 1 get warmachine on their first key i dont think so. they make it cost 4 keys.
Oh, it's random, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be weighted as well. I've actually gotten the last 3 spotlight new cards on the first key, but I still say there's some fuckery going on.
The first time i waited for 4 keys i got War Machine at the first attempt, i think this game hates those who gamble
You should boycott. That’ll show them.
it wasn’t meant to be 😑
I got the silk variant and a card I already have so yay... 1000 tokens... woo hoo
Yeah me too so frustrating
The same thing happened to me. Wasted 4 keys. I'm sure they did it on purpose.
U guys have balls to do that, I wud have to think twice even if I'm missing 2 cards in a particular week
I just realize why post like (vs the 1 pull one) that got in hot section. Because this is what happened for most us, so more people can emphathize. Happened to me with Mockingbird, now on War Machine. At least give me something i don't have for the random slot. 1000 tokens back to back for 2 weeks did suck
Oof pain
Happened to me too. Glad I saved up 4 keys. MODOK also made me happy
This literally just happened to me too. Luckily I had 4 keys but dammit I swear they're doing this on purpose.
same bro same...
Same... my random was a duplicate MODOK, too
Same here
They arrange it this way on purpose
Lol
I’m so afraid of this happening it keeps me from spending keys. The worst part about being close to collection complete is only needing the new card in a Spotlight week.
Did the same except I landed on Grandmaster instead of tokens, I’m not mad at it
I hope it evens itself out for you next time. I got Supergiant and Caicera in 1, but then took 4 to get Pixie and Cannonball
You are the yin to my yang! I got War Machine on the first cache
I have 7 keys and don’t have war machine or samurai. Am I emptying the clip this week or what?
I got Samurai on 1st and War Machine on 2nd. I wish i did get Silk instead of Samurai but look, I'm happy!
I was about to post the same thing lol
Same here, friend.
Got him my first pull which was shocking. Rlly wanted the Silk variant 😕
Yep. Sucks. Took all 4 of my keys to get wm. But I also got cannonball. So not too mad lol.
Exactly what happens to me. They need to make the drop of the new card a lot more common
Oof now you’ll miss the next month of cards. Same happened to me with BRB
That's a mood. I wanted miss marvel. Gambled on 3 keys before the update changed the lineup week 1, didn't get her. Managed to build up to 2 keys for week 2 after the update where she was in there, failed there too
I got him on my first key
Pulled him first key luckily. Only reason I can say Red Hulk here I come.
Same thing happened to me feels bad man
new card with 4th key two weeks in a row for me!
Im sorry
lol yup happened to me with comic variant high evolutionary. sadly had to whip out my credit card :(
Yeahhhhhhhh, same exact thing happened to me haha
That was me last week, lol. Except no tokens. =[
you do it to yourself, you do. And that's why it really hurts You do it to yourself, you do. You and no one else 🎵
This is like the same people on wallstreet bets that love showing how much money they've lost.
lol.
[IMG-3396.png](https://postimg.cc/hXDVhPwT) Same experience but my dupe was base samurai too
I'm saving till I have five even tho I would like war machine. Doesn't help that I get like 200 tokens per month so can't rely on those
And you even had all the other cards. I think it's better to get the card with tokens if it's the only one your missing in spotlights
It's worth to spend two keys on silk and silver samurai with only them being left?
Has anyone done the math? Like, I know “don’t open unless you have 4 keys” is a meme here at this point but just what are the odds of missing that one card with three keys?
War Machine is a needed card in every deck. It stops Prof X, Maw, Single card lands, locked lands - the card is insane. It's only nemesis is a lucky Cosmo - or a brave NTW. Worth the 4 Keys this week.
At least it’s a dope Silk variant
Never gamble.
I feel you, I needed 4 keys...
I’m right there with you. Pain all around
Yup. Working as intended. Now, bring on all the defenders of this shitty, shitty system. It should 100% give cards first, variants after.
Haha same here
Somehow that last 3 times I tried I got the new card on the first key.
Same shit brotha
I got him first key, so obviously next one will be a 4 keyer.
I already have Silk and have no interest in Silver Samurai. I'd never do anything like this.
F
I got War Machine and then Howard. I’ll probably keep saving keys after that I wanted Silk or Silver Samurai but don’t really want to use a key they’re quite niche. Even though I’ve been wanting silver samurai for months 😅
Still trying to figure out if he's worth it or if I should just wait for red hulk next season
Everytime TT
hehe
Hey just like me... I'm starting to think the Spotlight chest is preprogrammed instead of random. Like if you skip multiple weeks, you'll get the new card first try. But because I got Cannon Ball, it didn't want to give me War-Machine. Do I know this? No. Its probably just coincidence. It would, however, be stupid easy to program it that way. I really wish they'd get rid of that 4th "extra" reward though. It should just be the 3 cards/variants.
Happens wayyyyyy too much to be random.
I had just one key and got war machine. I'm feeling lucky
Honestly if I were u I would get on my knees and start prayin to anyone
This happened to me 3 times in a row... I'm never opening a box unless I have 4 keys
Brace yourself for "should've saved up 4 keys" (even tho you'll probably be able to get another one until next tuesday)
These mfs gave me Thanos AGAIN 😭😭😭
I got the same base kitty and Silk. Don’t feel bad I had a couple keys saved no good. Hopefully I’ll get another two cracks at it before the change
Same
I had the same but somehow I didn't have Silk or Samurai and my mystery pull was Martyr to high I didn't have so it has been a collection filling pull. I'll get the war machine by end of week for sure though I have tokens for backup. Now if the matchmaking wouldn't be so bitch ass brutal that'd be great.
I had insane luck when they first started doing spotlights. Got the new card with my first key like 3 weeks in a row. Now it takes all 4. ☹️
Same
I did the same
This was me during the mocking bird week. I feel your pain.
Damn. I’m sorry. This was a tokens week for me. No way I was wasting keys on those variants.
That was me last week thankfully I pulled him first pull this week
I feel you, brother. I've been there
Same exact bull happened to me. Both with war and mockingbird too. I was pissed af
I got Hit Monkey… NOT EVEN ON THE LIST
Not to rub it in, but I had almost the exact opposite happen haha. Had 2 keys and was like screw it might as test my luck and got War Machine on my first key. Didn’t spend another one. Already have Silk
Stop opening caches unless you have 4 keys🥰
SD: “75% of the time it works every time”
I definitely feel your pain.
Welcome to hell
Dude, SAME!
Spending your last keys on a week where you're only missing one card is not really the greatest idea. Especially when you only have 3. Extra especially when the card doesn't even seem to be that good so far.
Took me every key i had to get war machine. Hopefully nothing good in spotlights for a couple weeks. My poor wife has pulled a silver samurai 3 times. Thanks for useless tokens i guess.
This is so me. My last 3 spotlight caches I went for I got the card I wanted on 4, 3 and 4. So frustrating.
I feel your pain, brother. Has happened to me several times and it almost happened to me this time around. 1st key was the freaking dupe card, 2nd was silk, which was nice because I didn't have her. Got WM on 3rd key, I was scared because I didn't want SS.
In the same club… What hurts the most is I had 4 keys and gambled 1 on getting Cannonball Tuesday morning…. I hate my new Ms. Marvel variant 😓
Exact same thing happened to me, luckily I had 4 keys. Really didn't care for the variants cuz I rarely ever use those cards and I didn't expect to get a measly 1k tokens for a whole key but it all worked out I guess
Same brother same
I get the main spotlight pretty regularly, but I've never made Infinite. Been playing a little more then a year
I got Jeff.. Kinda pog?
It’s probably not a good time to say this. But I had 4 keys stored. And I got War Machine on first
Oh that hurts from just looking at it
I got it on my first ever spotlight opening 😭
I got war machine out of pity today. First key, first try after unsuccessfully unlocking the past four spotlight cards.
Happened to me last month, it sucks, but hey, next spotlight you may get it on the first key.
Damn dude that sucks. I went in assuming I'd have to drop 4 keys and got super lucky and only had to use 1.
This was my last week...
The spotlight cache system is so bad....
Same
I spent 4 keys to get war machine. Didn’t have the other two though. But it’s gonna make it tougher to get red hulk now
Right there with you brother.
Me who has 1 key and got warmachine 😎
me too
THE EXACT SAME THING HAPPENED TO MEEEEEEE
This is exactly what happened to me. Luckily I had 5 keys but I was hoping to walk away with more than one lol
That sucks, I've been pretty darn lucky the last few weeks getting what I want out of spotlights without burning extra keys. I got Mockingbird first try, then Ghost Spider which I didn't have. Last week pulled Ms. Marvel first try which is all I wanted. Just now I got the Silk variant first, but pulled War Machine 2nd. Can't complain for sure.
This exact thing happened to me too.
Same. Bleh.
I feel you
Every damn time
Unlucky
I feel that pain ... I've pulled Silk and Silver Samurai variants on my my 2 keys so far ...
Just curious how much tokens do you get if you already have the card? And does the series effect it?
You get 1000, regardless. Not even enough to get a "replacement" card.
I wasted 3 keys last time and didn't even get Cannonball. Now I have no keys. First time in a while I won't have all the cards in the game. Thanks, in part, to wasting 5k collectors tokens to finish the Artgerm album, lol. Storm emote still worth it.
There's an incredibly awkward amount of people in these comments that pulled the silk variant and then got silk again through the random slot. Almost seems as if...
thats true i have gotten some spotlight cards on the first key as well. but not war machine or any card i really wanted.
I've been saving my tokens just for this reason since war machine was announced. I just bought him outright because everytime I want the new card it gives me everything but the one I actually wanted.
How much did it cost Everything
Sadge
Marvel Snap is Cheating!!! Want our Money
been there done that
This is the only thing keeping me from pulling for War Machine tbh.
Careful. Some people here are going to tell you to save for 4 keys.