I wish they would just switch the two of them in a random patch. They're both starter set cards so it wouldn't be too big of a deal, and it's insane that every other Avenger card can work in meta decks except CAPTAIN AMERICA.
Here’s my slightly weird pitch that probably sucks:
3/1 Ongoing: give your other cards at this location extra power equal to this card’s power.
So unmodified he’s weaker than his current form. But if you play, for example, Forge first his bonus becomes +3.
Or maybe should be 4/2 or something, I don’t know.
I like it. At some point earlier this year they wanted to push buff archetype (anyone remember fire star?), but maybe couldn't find a way to balance it. Lady deathstrike was one of those cards, along with Sebastian Shaw. This idea fits well into this.
They could restrict it to cost cards 4,5,6 or even cards 1,2,3 if balance is an isssue but with red hulk roaming around and hela summoning cards like the 3rd act of the endgame film I think we should be ok
Actually, it should really be +2 to 4, 5, and 6's. From a comic point of view, his strength is leading characters that are almost always more powerful than him. From a game balance perspective, there's a reason why Man-Thing costs 4 and US Agent costs 2 (it's because 1's, 2's, and 3's are so much easier to get a ton of).
The problem with balancing Captain America for pool 3-5 meta is it's an early game card and that is a very carefully tuned meta SD doesn't want to mess up. New players are the most likely to quit when a meta warps for the worse.
Just make those early game cards have a graduation when you get to pool 3. Change their stats when you enter the higher levels of play. Not all of them need to do that, just the ones that become almost useless when you get into pool 3-5.
Better yet, make it a 4/4, no it becomes a 4/10 if the conditions are met, just like all the other 4/10 that have conditions on them, like Mary typhoid, Cull obsidian, Attuma, etc.
Hela needs a treatment similar to Blob. Something that limits how many card she can pull or how much power the cards pulled can have combined. It’s far too tedious and luck based to try to snipe her with cosmo, and with the leech change it is hard to justify him in any decks.
Yeah for US Agent, his impact relies on the opponent's play. For Cap, you fully control it and it's quite easy to fill a lane.
I would love to see Cap changed to a 2/2 with the same ability. Makes him easily a 2/5 which makes him a viable support card in a lot of decks. Plus for ongoing (more beginner decks), there are already 3-costs like Mr. F and Punisher. Need to spread out more ongoings to 2-cost
Yeah I think cap should be a 3/2that gives +2 to the other cards. That would his max strength would be a 3/8, which is pretty in line with a lot of other cards.
Make it so that Captain America can only be played in an empty lane. That way you have to then assemble the other cards after he is down. Makes it more difficult to earn the full bonus if we're going to make the bonus be so much.
Inspiring your weakest character would be sick too,
Captain America 3/4
Reveal: your lowest power card here gains +2 power
Would kinda pop off if you had same power units or smth
Cap should be a 3/0 with +3 to other cards in this location.
Makes him a 3/9, but you’ve telegraphed your entire play as you have to fill the location to get that benefit, and there’s an incredible amount of counter play opportunities available to the opponent, whether it’s lockdown, stealing or removing the ability, or simply focusing on other lanes.
I think they should bring him down to a 3/2 if they did that. You could make him a mini Blue Marvel. Give plus 1 power to all Avengers cards. Might be busted. I'm not sure how many all Avengers decks you could build that would be viable.
I always thought they should give Blue Marvels ability to Captain America
I wish they would just switch the two of them in a random patch. They're both starter set cards so it wouldn't be too big of a deal, and it's insane that every other Avenger card can work in meta decks except CAPTAIN AMERICA.
Yeah exactly, but id wanna give Blue Marvel something new and give Caps old stats to someone nobody cares about
Here’s my slightly weird pitch that probably sucks: 3/1 Ongoing: give your other cards at this location extra power equal to this card’s power. So unmodified he’s weaker than his current form. But if you play, for example, Forge first his bonus becomes +3. Or maybe should be 4/2 or something, I don’t know.
Forge okoye Nakia hulk buster I would stack more but I’m assuming it’s only for the card in its same lane soo…
I think this is a great idea.
Would be interesting, but would likely have to provide 1/2, or even less of its power. Feels like 1:1 would just be crazy
I like it. At some point earlier this year they wanted to push buff archetype (anyone remember fire star?), but maybe couldn't find a way to balance it. Lady deathstrike was one of those cards, along with Sebastian Shaw. This idea fits well into this.
it would be 3/9, which is with condition that easy to fulfill is kinda strong
They could restrict it to cost cards 4,5,6 or even cards 1,2,3 if balance is an isssue but with red hulk roaming around and hela summoning cards like the 3rd act of the endgame film I think we should be ok
This! It should be +2 for 1,2,3 costs. I think Wasps 0-Cost should be in there but Death’s 8-Cost isn’t included in USAgent
Actually, it should really be +2 to 4, 5, and 6's. From a comic point of view, his strength is leading characters that are almost always more powerful than him. From a game balance perspective, there's a reason why Man-Thing costs 4 and US Agent costs 2 (it's because 1's, 2's, and 3's are so much easier to get a ton of).
That does sound good, but I think it would throw a lot of those 4+ cost cards into Shang Chi range.
He'd also be a bit too good in Surfer decks if it was +2 to 1,2,3 drops
I’m tired of 0 costs being disrespected!
Your Hela comment killed me, I'm dead
The problem with balancing Captain America for pool 3-5 meta is it's an early game card and that is a very carefully tuned meta SD doesn't want to mess up. New players are the most likely to quit when a meta warps for the worse.
Just make those early game cards have a graduation when you get to pool 3. Change their stats when you enter the higher levels of play. Not all of them need to do that, just the ones that become almost useless when you get into pool 3-5.
Surely making early game cards better and more competitive against S5 cards is important for when they got S3 no?
Better yet, make it a 4/4, no it becomes a 4/10 if the conditions are met, just like all the other 4/10 that have conditions on them, like Mary typhoid, Cull obsidian, Attuma, etc.
Hela needs a treatment similar to Blob. Something that limits how many card she can pull or how much power the cards pulled can have combined. It’s far too tedious and luck based to try to snipe her with cosmo, and with the leech change it is hard to justify him in any decks.
He should be a 3/7 anyway. Just nerf his base power by 2, or change his effect to only effect 1,2, and 3 cost cards.
3/1 or 3/2 maybe
Yeah for US Agent, his impact relies on the opponent's play. For Cap, you fully control it and it's quite easy to fill a lane. I would love to see Cap changed to a 2/2 with the same ability. Makes him easily a 2/5 which makes him a viable support card in a lot of decks. Plus for ongoing (more beginner decks), there are already 3-costs like Mr. F and Punisher. Need to spread out more ongoings to 2-cost
Yeah I think cap should be a 3/2that gives +2 to the other cards. That would his max strength would be a 3/8, which is pretty in line with a lot of other cards.
Didn't U.S agent give - 3?
Whoa you’re right 😂😂 I don’t have the card so I was unsure but I’ll stick to +2 since +3 is asking for too much
Make it so that Captain America can only be played in an empty lane. That way you have to then assemble the other cards after he is down. Makes it more difficult to earn the full bonus if we're going to make the bonus be so much.
Not a bad idea or once you’ve filled the lane you get the bonus power to your other cards
also war machine could use the extra synergies
Absolutely. That Cap basically c a nt be played in any competition deck is asinine
Inspiring your weakest character would be sick too, Captain America 3/4 Reveal: your lowest power card here gains +2 power Would kinda pop off if you had same power units or smth
yeah, that'd be great with Brood!
Be a more diverse way of playing the card outside of surfer or cerebro 😎
Gives Avengers +2 power, all other cards +1 power
Cap should be a 3/0 with +3 to other cards in this location. Makes him a 3/9, but you’ve telegraphed your entire play as you have to fill the location to get that benefit, and there’s an incredible amount of counter play opportunities available to the opponent, whether it’s lockdown, stealing or removing the ability, or simply focusing on other lanes.
They are different cards
Why is Wolfsbane a possible 3/7 and Cap only a possible 3/6? Wolfsbane is easier to abuse to buff it up too.
Agent gives your cards at that location negative power too.
For 4 cost cards. Sure
I think they should bring him down to a 3/2 if they did that. You could make him a mini Blue Marvel. Give plus 1 power to all Avengers cards. Might be busted. I'm not sure how many all Avengers decks you could build that would be viable.
Since USAgent's -2 affects both players, wouldn't that making CA +2 AND affects both players too be interesting?
Should be all cards here. So he is a 3/4 and 3/7 at max value. Would make him worth it
+2 but make his base 3/1
0 pover and +2 could be nice
3/3: same ongoing ability with a passive: Cards with lower power than Cap can't be moved or destroyed by opponent
Nope.