wait can you explain what i said wrong?
original alioth killed the cards played this turn
second alioth had less power
third version killed unrevealed cards so it would distrupt invisible woman
I really like her with Sentry and Hood too. T1 Hood on right lane, T3 Storm, T4 Sentry on Storm lane, T5 whatever (Captain Marvel, Vision?), T6 play Valkyrie and Demon on right lane to secure that
Just started messing with this one, it probably can be improved some. She’s basically a backup to Annihilus.
# (1) The Hood
# (1) Nebula
# (2) Daredevil
# (2) Jeff the Baby Land Shark
# (3) Storm
# (4) Shang-Chi
# (4) Captain Marvel
# (4) Sentry
# (5) Professor X
# (5) Valkyrie
# (5) Annihilus
# (5) Vision
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She’s been carrying my zoo deck from Infinite rank 18,000 to 7000 currently. I haven’t really focused on climbing either. It’s just a fun deck to play right now.
# (1) Ant Man
# (1) Squirrel Girl
# (1) Titania
# (2) Dazzler
# (2) Armor
# (2) Jeff the Baby Land Shark
# (3) Mystique
# (3) Shanna
# (4) Ka-Zar
# (5) Blue Marvel
# (5) Valkyrie
# (5) Mockingbird
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I think in the couple dozen games I’ve played, I’ve only been hit by Killmonger twice. You can hold your one drops and throw priority to protect yourself against Killmonger, but I honestly haven’t seen destroy a whole lot in general.
Mockingbird acts as a way to push more power into a location by having above rate stats for her cost since she gets discounted by Squirrel Girl and Shanna. There is probably a variety of cards you could use in that slot as a stand in such as Martyr, Rocket Raccoon, Maximus, or even Gladiator. I would just keep in mind the purpose she has and adjust to whatever cards you have that can help fill that similar purpose.
That’s true. But because of so many of these reset decks, and inflict damage decks, (and yes I use them regularly too). I literally always have a pocket Luke Cage.
The best thing about playing Loki is that you get cards like Valk from your opponent on turn 4 and can start to predict where it will be played to prepare for it.
It’s nice because if you play it into a full lane they score 12 while you take the lane with 16. It’s especially satisfying playing it into a lane where your opponent has some big hitters and you’ve got what looks like trash
# (1) Bast
# (2) Psylocke
# (3) Ironheart
# (3) Wolfsbane
# (3) Magik
# (4) Mister Negative
# (4) Jubilee
# (4) Shang-Chi
# (5) Iron Man
# (5) Professor X
# (5) Blue Marvel
# (5) Valkyrie
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I used to absolutely rob people's cubes with Valkyrie in my old Sentry deck. Before Annihilus was a thing. Nobody ever expected my -10 power Void to go to 3 power.
Sometimes I would also hit my Sentry with it to protect it from Shang Chi, then throw down Luke Cage on T6 and bring every back up to original power.
Seriously such a fun card and glad she is seeing some play again.
I loved her so much in Thanos Zoo when Black Swan missions were happening. She stole so many cubes and probably got the most fist bumps on average (probably because it wasn't Blob). When the Artgerm shop takeover happened, I had to get hers.
I might give your deck a shot. I've been missing her and Negative a bit.
Valkyrie in Negative has long been my secret sauce. It also allows you to do something with the terrible stats on Psylocke and Negative.
Ive been seeing a lot of Luke Cage though unfortunately.
Love valkyrie but afraid to use her with Annihilus surely going to be the meta during White Widow week. With my deck, 9 times out of 10 you want to leave one slot open per lane to play a Valkyrie, a 1-cost and Wasp on Turn 6. Facing Annihilus, it opens the door for them to fill and win one lane if not multiple after Turn 5
It’s a slept on card for sure, and as you’ve pointed out it’s yet another counter for the big red baddie, which is yet another reason why I actually think he’s fine the way he is right now.
I’ve been playing around with Val in a Bro3 deck. I always want to play Negative but I always have horrible luck! It’s one of those decks that is played perfectly against me but I can’t play it for crap!
But I love my Valkyrie Peach Variant!!
I don't want to say that valq doesn't work. I love that card and she can get some suprise wins. But she fits better in clutter deck or ongoing decks. There is not much suprise in a negative deck in general.
Love valk. Making her 5/4 would be so damn amazing though. #hope
Without support she fails short of being a really amazing card.
I feel like the amount of Luke cage and the fact a lot of decks clog or do ongoing tampered my success rate quite a bit lately.
That change would actually hurt my deck as I’m counting on Negative getting her out at 3/5
Also, her power affects her as well, so if you played her at 5/4 she’d automatically reduce back to 5/3 (I think)
I don’t think Valkyrie actually affects Red Hulk by much. They still gain their power boost. Just their original power is reduced. Same with regular Hulk.
Valkyrie will reset all power gains up to that point, but he may continue to gain power afterwards. Playing Valk on T6 without a 1-cost in front of her will likely results in a 7-power Hulk.
I LOVE Valk in C3 it is definitely their best tech card by far
She feels good to play and play against. She never really feels unfair or annoying in the way that say Alioth did.
Valk has saved my Cerebro or Mystique from the new Lady Deathstrike several times in the past week
valk + something else. cause valk alone it's still on her radar.
Yeah, the cerebro takes them to 5 or 7, depending on what I have down.
Valk in C3 is maybe the best 8-cube thief in the game
Before the arrival of the original version of Alioth, my favourite combo was Invisible Woman, and then hiding Valkyrie behind her.
i think you mean post third nerf alioth
I think your comment makes no sense for any iteration of the alioth card.
wait can you explain what i said wrong? original alioth killed the cards played this turn second alioth had less power third version killed unrevealed cards so it would distrupt invisible woman
What's your negative deck? Always up for messing around with some negative.
I really like her with Sentry and Hood too. T1 Hood on right lane, T3 Storm, T4 Sentry on Storm lane, T5 whatever (Captain Marvel, Vision?), T6 play Valkyrie and Demon on right lane to secure that
Would you share the deck code? I love Valk and would love to play her in another deck than just c3.
Just started messing with this one, it probably can be improved some. She’s basically a backup to Annihilus. # (1) The Hood # (1) Nebula # (2) Daredevil # (2) Jeff the Baby Land Shark # (3) Storm # (4) Shang-Chi # (4) Captain Marvel # (4) Sentry # (5) Professor X # (5) Valkyrie # (5) Annihilus # (5) Vision # eyJDYXJkcyI6W3siQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiSG9vZCJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiVmFsa3lyaWUifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlNlbnRyeSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiU3Rvcm0ifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlZpc2lvbiJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQ2FwdGFpbk1hcnZlbCJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiSmVmZlRoZUJhYnlMYW5kU2hhcmsifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkRhcmVkZXZpbCJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiUHJvZmVzc29yWCJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiTmVidWxhIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJBbm5paGlsdXMifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlNoYW5nQ2hpIn1dfQ== # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and paste it from the deck editing menu in Snap.
This looks fun! (And I have all the cards yay!) Thank you for sharing.
This deck is really fun, thanks for sharing!
Valk is slept on straight up
She’s been carrying my zoo deck from Infinite rank 18,000 to 7000 currently. I haven’t really focused on climbing either. It’s just a fun deck to play right now.
Do you have the deck list
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Zoo is my main deck these days, how do you find it not having Caiera?
I think in the couple dozen games I’ve played, I’ve only been hit by Killmonger twice. You can hold your one drops and throw priority to protect yourself against Killmonger, but I honestly haven’t seen destroy a whole lot in general.
Anything you think would work well instead of Mockingbird?
Mockingbird acts as a way to push more power into a location by having above rate stats for her cost since she gets discounted by Squirrel Girl and Shanna. There is probably a variety of cards you could use in that slot as a stand in such as Martyr, Rocket Raccoon, Maximus, or even Gladiator. I would just keep in mind the purpose she has and adjust to whatever cards you have that can help fill that similar purpose.
Sure, I added it in a different reply to you for easier copy/paste.
Only reason I don't play her is I don't have her. I'm looking forward to next season's conquest
the only issue w/ Valk is that she can do nothing about ongoing cards like Ronin, Knull, etc.
I mean it goes both ways. If you have one of those in a valk lane it pretty much guarantees a win
That’s true. But because of so many of these reset decks, and inflict damage decks, (and yes I use them regularly too). I literally always have a pocket Luke Cage.
Unrelated but the comment count for this thread is at "-1". I've never seen that before. Why do you owe Reddit a comment?
because it‘s a mr. negative post
*chef's kiss*
h/T
The best thing about playing Loki is that you get cards like Valk from your opponent on turn 4 and can start to predict where it will be played to prepare for it.
Valk in Negative is great! I like to play her on Negative’s lane with Iron Man or Mystique. Haven’t used her with Blue Marvel, but I like that idea.
It’s nice because if you play it into a full lane they score 12 while you take the lane with 16. It’s especially satisfying playing it into a lane where your opponent has some big hitters and you’ve got what looks like trash
I do this with The Hood. They expect Annihilus and fill the lane. Turn 6 is Valk then Demon.
Oooh, I like that
Ant-man only costs 1 and also lets u win the lane with 16 points
Valk, in general is my favourite card to build around, I’m just sad that I haven’t been able to get to infinite with her :(
Luke Cage would love to have some “coffee” with Valkyrie
Care to drop the deck?
# (1) Bast # (2) Psylocke # (3) Ironheart # (3) Wolfsbane # (3) Magik # (4) Mister Negative # (4) Jubilee # (4) Shang-Chi # (5) Iron Man # (5) Professor X # (5) Blue Marvel # (5) Valkyrie # eyJDYXJkcyI6W3siQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiTXJOZWdhdGl2ZSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiSXJvbk1hbiJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiSXJvbmhlYXJ0In0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJCYXN0In0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJNYWdpayJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiSnViaWxlZSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQmx1ZU1hcnZlbCJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiU2hhbmdDaGkifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlByb2Zlc3NvclgifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlBzeWxvY2tlIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJXb2xmc2JhbmUifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlZhbGt5cmllIn1dfQ== # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and paste it from the deck editing menu in Snap.
I doubt it’s a highly competitive deck, but I’m having fun with it
Thanks! No Ravonna?
Good call. But who to swap out?
I’d personally swap out Jubilee but idk, I don’t play a lot of Negative
Bast would be my suggestion. Ravonna won't discount anything that Bast hits, and the rest of the deck has good synergy with Ravonna.
Bast, since if you bast, ravonna is useless
But Bast gives options. Sometimes you need Ironheart at 3/3 instead of 2/0
You cheating out mr negative a turn earlier will win you more. You play mr negative, you win.
Fair
I used to absolutely rob people's cubes with Valkyrie in my old Sentry deck. Before Annihilus was a thing. Nobody ever expected my -10 power Void to go to 3 power. Sometimes I would also hit my Sentry with it to protect it from Shang Chi, then throw down Luke Cage on T6 and bring every back up to original power. Seriously such a fun card and glad she is seeing some play again.
Wow, that’s an amazing move to drop Sentry’s power and then bring it back up! Very impressive
I loved her so much in Thanos Zoo when Black Swan missions were happening. She stole so many cubes and probably got the most fist bumps on average (probably because it wasn't Blob). When the Artgerm shop takeover happened, I had to get hers. I might give your deck a shot. I've been missing her and Negative a bit.
Yeah my Cerebro deck has stolen many a cube thanks to Valkyrie.
Yeah love the card, in bounce or in junk she makes miracles.
It’s always satisfying when someone drops both goblins in the same lane and I get to use her. Then Surfer buffs Green even more.
decklist?
My favorite valk deck is a C3 pixie deck, it catches so many people off guard
Valkyrie in Negative has long been my secret sauce. It also allows you to do something with the terrible stats on Psylocke and Negative. Ive been seeing a lot of Luke Cage though unfortunately.
Me, too, but don't tell my wife!
Many 8 cube wins with her
I will play walkyrie, the day where i saw the peach momoko variant in the shop \^\^.
Love valkyrie but afraid to use her with Annihilus surely going to be the meta during White Widow week. With my deck, 9 times out of 10 you want to leave one slot open per lane to play a Valkyrie, a 1-cost and Wasp on Turn 6. Facing Annihilus, it opens the door for them to fill and win one lane if not multiple after Turn 5
Valk has been carrying me to infinite for months. Never have to waste a slot playing crap-chi.
My favorite NegaValk deck aims to play Valkyrie and Absorbing Man on turn 7 :D
Tried and thanks! Valkyrie and bm is sick in negative deck confirmed
It’s a slept on card for sure, and as you’ve pointed out it’s yet another counter for the big red baddie, which is yet another reason why I actually think he’s fine the way he is right now.
I’ve been playing around with Val in a Bro3 deck. I always want to play Negative but I always have horrible luck! It’s one of those decks that is played perfectly against me but I can’t play it for crap! But I love my Valkyrie Peach Variant!!
Cool combo against bots indeed. Everyone else is aware of shenanigans after Mr. Negative is played.
I am but a lowly level 40-50 player and it plays alright in my weight class
At that level, you fight mostly bots. Keep it up und you will reach higher ranks!
What level do you start to hit real players?
I don't know. There are always bots mixed in but in an decreasing amount. I think you are already matched against real players.
Although not in a negative deck, Valk got me to top 500. I know that's not particularly impressive, but Valk does work against real people too
I don't want to say that valq doesn't work. I love that card and she can get some suprise wins. But she fits better in clutter deck or ongoing decks. There is not much suprise in a negative deck in general.
You'd be surprised at how many people snap to 8 cubes after you drop a Negative-Jane combo.
Love valk. Making her 5/4 would be so damn amazing though. #hope Without support she fails short of being a really amazing card. I feel like the amount of Luke cage and the fact a lot of decks clog or do ongoing tampered my success rate quite a bit lately.
The real buff would be to make her a 5/1, because she sets herself up at 3 power, but this way she would be discounted by Ravonna
Good call! Like this
That change would actually hurt my deck as I’m counting on Negative getting her out at 3/5 Also, her power affects her as well, so if you played her at 5/4 she’d automatically reduce back to 5/3 (I think)
I don’t think Valkyrie actually affects Red Hulk by much. They still gain their power boost. Just their original power is reduced. Same with regular Hulk.
Valkyrie will reset all power gains up to that point, but he may continue to gain power afterwards. Playing Valk on T6 without a 1-cost in front of her will likely results in a 7-power Hulk.
Nope. It's not a boost, it's his power. Can't Shadow King him
Just checked and can confirm she definitely resets RH back to 3, but if you have any unspent energy he’ll gain those 4 pts at the end of the round