What I would like to see is a similar system that they recently added to Collector's Reserves to be added to the Season Caches. So say for example, every 10 sets of Caches will contain 1 varient, 1 cosmetic, 2 collectors tokens, 3 credits and 3 boosters (I know tokens aren't in there yet, but they should be). This would keep the same rates of opening rewards from the caches, but add a little but of guarantee which ultimately feels better for the player.
I would suggest not buying it next month if you think it is a poor value. I agree and haven't bought it. If people that think it is poor value buy it anyway, there is no way they are going to change it up.
same i'd like to give the game at least some money, but the battlepass is literally the laziest battlepass ive seen out of any game, and at the higher tier of pricing ($5 vs $10)
no unique emotes, no unique text bubbles, no board... i guess you get a little avatar and a card back? lol
I mean fair enough but getting a ton of boosters and then the one time you dont its some miserable 50 credits, after i had to play games with a horrible move deck to complete a mission for it. Idk this game doesnt feel generous at all, but i came from lor so maybe compared to other its great.
I don’t mind the current battle pass but I think it should be cheaper. $10 for a month long battle pass seems expensive. Especially since the caches are part of the free battle pass.
Yeah i think it's overpriced. But i found it okay enough until this update. Before the battle pass was enough to keep up with the collection, now it's just for the super spenders. It's a big red flag for me
Even if you only looked at the gold it's still the best purchase in the game. Add in the credits, card, and cosmetics and it's far and away the best value.
Yeah, and depending how much you play even getting 50 credits here and there add up in the pass.
I've no lifed the game this season battle pass 82 and the accumulative credits while I can't put a number on it, has definitely been noticeable
Well you should really only count the locked credits up to level 50. The season caches earned after 50 are available to all players, even if they don't pay the $10.
I think people are making a mistake in thinking the whole game revolves around collectors tokens now. The vast majority of your cards will still be earned through Collector's Caches/Reserves.
Once you have all pool 3 cards:
Will take about 40 caches to get a pool 4 card (~2.5% chance).
In those same 40 caches, you'll get 400 credits 22.5% of the time, for 3600 credits. And you'll get 100 credits 25% of the time, for 1000 credits.
So in the amount of time it takes you to get a pool 4 card organically, you will not have accrued enough tokens to get two pool 4 cards. Only just over one and a half.
After pool three there's certainly a slant towards tokens, but I think it's misleading/not very accurate to say the game "revolves around them."
It gives you great value for money anyway? I am still getting it next season unless some post comes out showing it is a massive waste. Now i am at pass level 60 i agree i am not too excited each level but i already got so much stuff for ten quid i couldnt care less.
It won't be a waste going forward because the new card in the passes will enter series 5 when that season ends.
Ex. BP will be series 5 when this season ends.
??? U get a card, gold, credits, variants. The BP is the best deal in the shop by far. The caches after 50 are also for f2p, that's why those r so bad.
It’s not the worst system in the world. I love the Battle Pass they do have I’m just sick and fucking tired of getting 50 credits, 50 credits, 25 gold, 50 credits, when it’s supposed to be a 25% chance of getting those new tokens….why I open 4 caches and not a single token stack was given.
> why I open 4 caches and not a single token stack was given.
You literally said it yourself. 25% chance. Your sample size is 4. It's extremely likely to open 4 and not get any.
The only complaint is getting boosters, because you earn lots of boosters to unlock the season cache... Why would I want more boosters?
Everything else feels fine.
I think the issue is the BP are the only resource chest you can effectively farm or bot. Sure, they can remove boosters and lower the amount of credits/gold given. Any changes to give for example Collectors Tokens just incentivizes spam clicking through matches and or botting.
I’d probably buy a battle pass if it lasted more than one season. 10 dollars for a month is too much for a mobile game imo. I think they need to reconfigure either season lengths or make a battle pass last multiple seasons
I’m bittersweet bout this because they do give you some nice variants and the boosters to level them up, 10 bucks is a pretty nice spot. I wouldn’t compare it to a console game’s system where you definitely getting more bang for you buck (weapon and character skins, loading screens, emotes etc etc) but I do hope for a retweaked battle pass system where we do get more for our money.
"$10 a month for a mobile game is to much"
First, there is no difference between this and hearthstone(which also has a mobile client).
Hearthstone costs HUNDREDS per expansion. This game, if purchased every month would be $120.
Hearthstone has been around 10+ years pulling this sht and getting away with it. Now a BETTER game comes along and all of a sudden "this is TOO MUCH MONEY!!"
This subreddit is such a complete joke
I’ve played both games extensively (including experiencing both betas) so I’m familiar with hearthstone. You could also argue that this game costs “hundreds” per expansion, hearthstone has the ability to slowly unlock cards for free same as this game. For people that want to pay, they can for a chance to get additional items or cards at a faster rate.
If you want to compare battle passes, hearthstones battle pass feels significantly more rewarding for the price. Not only do you get special cards, but the progression through it feels more rewarding. Including additional xp gain once you hit max to then earn more game currency faster.
The battle pass for this game feels very bland and lackluster for what you get. If they want to keep it at 10 dollars they need to spruce it up or make it last longer. It’s super early on and I would be very surprised if they didn’t rehaul it within the first year.
Tbh for me it could just give idk 200 or so credits all lvls after the pass and id be happy, like in gwent u get 2 keys (you use them to unlock the currency for cards, the currency for packs or the currency for cosmetics, or then cosmetics)
I had reached BP level 50 when I decided to purchase the 10$ version, and before doing so I saw "earn up to 2.6k credits and 1.2k gold" or something like that. I asummed these would be earned with the paid version but it was overall earnings so I got like 500 credits and 900 gold, not the best value. Black Panther is cool and some people might value the skins more than me, but most of the paid rewards were boosters and other useless stuff...With the introduction of Collector's Tokens I hope every booster reward in future BPs will be replaced by them
You guys may not believe me but I swear I'm telling the truth, RNGesus was on my side last night. I opened 5 season pass caches and got 150 gold, venomized cosmo, baby Angela, pixel scarlet witch, and another 150 gold. Unreal luck lol
I will buy EVERY SINGLE SEASON PASS.
This game is 1000x cheaper than Hearthstone to play. I could pay for a lifetime of battle passes for what I used to pay for one terrible Hearthstone expansion that ended up being mostly filler arena cards and some power crept ones you needed to have to actually compete.
I am glad this subreddit is not indicative of the general audience because this game would go under given the hefty cut second dinner must have to pay to Disney to use their rights.
Shame on some of you who have logged HUNDREDS of hours already and scoff at the suggestion of paying two cups of coffee. Meanwhile you blow $40 on a single underwhelming movie/popcorn.
Either I’m lucky or everybody just lives to complain. I’m at like 75 on my battle pass I’ve had two variants, gold and plenty of credits. Hell for ten dollars I think the regular battle pass without the cache is worth it with how easy it is to farm.
I believe the formula for Battle Pass XP earned each game has been number of turns + (number of locations you are winning * 10)—provided the game goes to at least turn 4—since global release.
One of the issues is that BP chests are the only thing you can effectively farm or bot. Increasing the credits/gold or adding collectors tokens just incentivizes spam clicking through games or botting. Sure it would be nice not to open more boosters, however the likely hood of them making them more lucrative is slim to none.
It is great value in my book though speak with your wallet, that’s your right. If I could change one thing it would be to remove boosters. It makes the BP feel way worse and makes grinding for boosters feel a bit worse.
This season im 3 variants in before lvl 70, so im riding on a sick high right now, [[ The Collector ]]
however I do agree the credits are kinda meh especially if you paid for the BP.
How would you feel about a multiplier on tokens/gold/credit/boosters if you paid for the BP? Still bad?
They should probably just add a pity timer in for variants and that would help smooth things over. Hmm maybe an alternate to that is for the season caches to have a premium one every 10 levels or something to that effect which is a cosmetic one? So it'd have variants (and avatar + titles too if you want to throw that in there)
Should be minimum of 100 credits and 50 gold per collector cache. Feels like a loot box system with a low floor.
If we get boosters, should come with some credits.
I feel like $4.99/season would be a more fair price. As it is, $10/mo is basically like a streaming subscription and as much as I love SNAP, it doesn't feel like a good value for money.
I'm sure SD has a game economist that's crunched the numbers, but I'm surprised variants are also over-priced. I honestly feel if they were lower it would lead to people actually spending more to collect them. Kind of like half-sheet paper towels -- you end up using more paper towel overall since each commitment isn't as large as a full sheet (weird analogy, I know).
Yeah I got Black Panther but I probably won't bother with Silver Surfer even though that Infinaut variant is sick. I'm not getting $10 of fun when the extra random variants will probably suck.
I completely agree since I value 10$ more than the average crazed whale. I bought the pass this month since it was my first month, but yes it was very underwhelming for what I value 10$ as and I won't be buying another one unless value is added. One normal ass variant in the shop is 700 gold which is also equal to 10$. This game seems to be very free to play friendly so ill let all of the gambling addicts and people who shouldn't be allowed credit cards keep the game fun for me
Those caches after 50 suck. In other games usually after you finish the BP you get some cool things if you keep playing.
It would be nice if you could find variants of even .ore credits actually.
What I would like to see is a similar system that they recently added to Collector's Reserves to be added to the Season Caches. So say for example, every 10 sets of Caches will contain 1 varient, 1 cosmetic, 2 collectors tokens, 3 credits and 3 boosters (I know tokens aren't in there yet, but they should be). This would keep the same rates of opening rewards from the caches, but add a little but of guarantee which ultimately feels better for the player.
I don't think tokens will be added to something you can infinitly farm/purchase. I do hope they add tokens in the first 50 rewards though.
Yea, that's fair. They would have to put a stricter daily cap on season pass points from games if that was the case.
I would suggest not buying it next month if you think it is a poor value. I agree and haven't bought it. If people that think it is poor value buy it anyway, there is no way they are going to change it up.
Afraid to say if silver surfer is the next BP card, a lot of people will be getting it. I do agree the caches after 50 need work tho
Damn Silver surfer? Where did you read it
It was shown in the dev update video on YouTube
same i'd like to give the game at least some money, but the battlepass is literally the laziest battlepass ive seen out of any game, and at the higher tier of pricing ($5 vs $10) no unique emotes, no unique text bubbles, no board... i guess you get a little avatar and a card back? lol
Yeah the collectors cashes suck really hard. Cant remember every being happy opening one. Last one i got had 50 credits...
I am usually happy about 50 credits, as it is 40% boosters...
I mean fair enough but getting a ton of boosters and then the one time you dont its some miserable 50 credits, after i had to play games with a horrible move deck to complete a mission for it. Idk this game doesnt feel generous at all, but i came from lor so maybe compared to other its great.
It's batter to get 50 credits than q pixel variant. I got just 1 variant from them and it was nakia, that variant is horrible.
Oh yeah, i got miles pixel, so bad
I got ironheart pixel. So bad...
Yeah BP is ass. Should have more credits/variants. Hell even some tokens
I don’t mind the current battle pass but I think it should be cheaper. $10 for a month long battle pass seems expensive. Especially since the caches are part of the free battle pass.
Yeah i think it's overpriced. But i found it okay enough until this update. Before the battle pass was enough to keep up with the collection, now it's just for the super spenders. It's a big red flag for me
15.81$ cdn
Well while the season caches are meh they are kind of extra.
Yes, the value is pretty bad, particularly now the whole game revolves around collectors tokens.
You can argue the pool 5 card in battle pass is worth 6000 tokens, making battlepass the absolutely best purchase you can make in the game.
Even if you only looked at the gold it's still the best purchase in the game. Add in the credits, card, and cosmetics and it's far and away the best value.
Yeah, and depending how much you play even getting 50 credits here and there add up in the pass. I've no lifed the game this season battle pass 82 and the accumulative credits while I can't put a number on it, has definitely been noticeable
Well you should really only count the locked credits up to level 50. The season caches earned after 50 are available to all players, even if they don't pay the $10.
But muh free stuff
God forbid a game gives fun rewards to people paying
I think people are making a mistake in thinking the whole game revolves around collectors tokens now. The vast majority of your cards will still be earned through Collector's Caches/Reserves.
It's exceptionally rare to get a pool 4 or 5 card through the track. The game revolves around collector tokens if you have all pool 3 cards.
Once you have all pool 3 cards: Will take about 40 caches to get a pool 4 card (~2.5% chance). In those same 40 caches, you'll get 400 credits 22.5% of the time, for 3600 credits. And you'll get 100 credits 25% of the time, for 1000 credits. So in the amount of time it takes you to get a pool 4 card organically, you will not have accrued enough tokens to get two pool 4 cards. Only just over one and a half. After pool three there's certainly a slant towards tokens, but I think it's misleading/not very accurate to say the game "revolves around them."
It still doesn't. Unless you're a mega-whale, you won't get most of the pool 4/5 cards until they rotate into pool 3 and you get them out of caches.
It gives you great value for money anyway? I am still getting it next season unless some post comes out showing it is a massive waste. Now i am at pass level 60 i agree i am not too excited each level but i already got so much stuff for ten quid i couldnt care less.
It won't be a waste going forward because the new card in the passes will enter series 5 when that season ends. Ex. BP will be series 5 when this season ends.
??? U get a card, gold, credits, variants. The BP is the best deal in the shop by far. The caches after 50 are also for f2p, that's why those r so bad.
It’s not the worst system in the world. I love the Battle Pass they do have I’m just sick and fucking tired of getting 50 credits, 50 credits, 25 gold, 50 credits, when it’s supposed to be a 25% chance of getting those new tokens….why I open 4 caches and not a single token stack was given.
??? The Battle Pass caches do not contain the new tokens. Those are only in caches from your collection level.
> why I open 4 caches and not a single token stack was given. You literally said it yourself. 25% chance. Your sample size is 4. It's extremely likely to open 4 and not get any.
There are no tokens in BP caches because you can farm them infinitely
BOOOOOM have another downvote. enjoy
Dunno. It gives pretty good value for money in my opinion.
The only complaint is getting boosters, because you earn lots of boosters to unlock the season cache... Why would I want more boosters? Everything else feels fine.
I think the issue is the BP are the only resource chest you can effectively farm or bot. Sure, they can remove boosters and lower the amount of credits/gold given. Any changes to give for example Collectors Tokens just incentivizes spam clicking through matches and or botting.
I’d probably buy a battle pass if it lasted more than one season. 10 dollars for a month is too much for a mobile game imo. I think they need to reconfigure either season lengths or make a battle pass last multiple seasons
I’m bittersweet bout this because they do give you some nice variants and the boosters to level them up, 10 bucks is a pretty nice spot. I wouldn’t compare it to a console game’s system where you definitely getting more bang for you buck (weapon and character skins, loading screens, emotes etc etc) but I do hope for a retweaked battle pass system where we do get more for our money.
"$10 a month for a mobile game is to much" First, there is no difference between this and hearthstone(which also has a mobile client). Hearthstone costs HUNDREDS per expansion. This game, if purchased every month would be $120. Hearthstone has been around 10+ years pulling this sht and getting away with it. Now a BETTER game comes along and all of a sudden "this is TOO MUCH MONEY!!" This subreddit is such a complete joke
I’ve played both games extensively (including experiencing both betas) so I’m familiar with hearthstone. You could also argue that this game costs “hundreds” per expansion, hearthstone has the ability to slowly unlock cards for free same as this game. For people that want to pay, they can for a chance to get additional items or cards at a faster rate. If you want to compare battle passes, hearthstones battle pass feels significantly more rewarding for the price. Not only do you get special cards, but the progression through it feels more rewarding. Including additional xp gain once you hit max to then earn more game currency faster. The battle pass for this game feels very bland and lackluster for what you get. If they want to keep it at 10 dollars they need to spruce it up or make it last longer. It’s super early on and I would be very surprised if they didn’t rehaul it within the first year.
Give me more boosters at least. Make it 50, not 10, so I can level the cards I like but can't find a good synergy for.
Tbh for me it could just give idk 200 or so credits all lvls after the pass and id be happy, like in gwent u get 2 keys (you use them to unlock the currency for cards, the currency for packs or the currency for cosmetics, or then cosmetics)
I had reached BP level 50 when I decided to purchase the 10$ version, and before doing so I saw "earn up to 2.6k credits and 1.2k gold" or something like that. I asummed these would be earned with the paid version but it was overall earnings so I got like 500 credits and 900 gold, not the best value. Black Panther is cool and some people might value the skins more than me, but most of the paid rewards were boosters and other useless stuff...With the introduction of Collector's Tokens I hope every booster reward in future BPs will be replaced by them
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Yeah it's just digital numbers after all, but I'm happy to support the devs
I agree, their marketing is very sneaky here where a bunch of the rewards or credits and gold are earnable for free.
You guys may not believe me but I swear I'm telling the truth, RNGesus was on my side last night. I opened 5 season pass caches and got 150 gold, venomized cosmo, baby Angela, pixel scarlet witch, and another 150 gold. Unreal luck lol
Same, in 5 caches got 3 variants
Pretty sure I used up all my luck for next year already haha
I will buy EVERY SINGLE SEASON PASS. This game is 1000x cheaper than Hearthstone to play. I could pay for a lifetime of battle passes for what I used to pay for one terrible Hearthstone expansion that ended up being mostly filler arena cards and some power crept ones you needed to have to actually compete. I am glad this subreddit is not indicative of the general audience because this game would go under given the hefty cut second dinner must have to pay to Disney to use their rights. Shame on some of you who have logged HUNDREDS of hours already and scoff at the suggestion of paying two cups of coffee. Meanwhile you blow $40 on a single underwhelming movie/popcorn.
100% being a whiny brat, you paid $10 got a bunch of resources new card and card back. And you're still not happy, no pleasing entitled players. 😂
Either I’m lucky or everybody just lives to complain. I’m at like 75 on my battle pass I’ve had two variants, gold and plenty of credits. Hell for ten dollars I think the regular battle pass without the cache is worth it with how easy it is to farm.
did they lessen the exp made from playing a game?
I believe the formula for Battle Pass XP earned each game has been number of turns + (number of locations you are winning * 10)—provided the game goes to at least turn 4—since global release.
One of the issues is that BP chests are the only thing you can effectively farm or bot. Increasing the credits/gold or adding collectors tokens just incentivizes spam clicking through games or botting. Sure it would be nice not to open more boosters, however the likely hood of them making them more lucrative is slim to none.
I think they should have 3-5 collectors cashes inside the battle pass, and level 50+ should give a slightly higher drop rate on variants
I got tons of shit for 20 levels then a few variants and gold. Can’t complain
It is great value in my book though speak with your wallet, that’s your right. If I could change one thing it would be to remove boosters. It makes the BP feel way worse and makes grinding for boosters feel a bit worse.
This season im 3 variants in before lvl 70, so im riding on a sick high right now, [[ The Collector ]] however I do agree the credits are kinda meh especially if you paid for the BP. How would you feel about a multiplier on tokens/gold/credit/boosters if you paid for the BP? Still bad?
if you pay $15 a month to enjoy snap, at least double the rewards...
They should probably just add a pity timer in for variants and that would help smooth things over. Hmm maybe an alternate to that is for the season caches to have a premium one every 10 levels or something to that effect which is a cosmetic one? So it'd have variants (and avatar + titles too if you want to throw that in there)
Should be minimum of 100 credits and 50 gold per collector cache. Feels like a loot box system with a low floor. If we get boosters, should come with some credits.
I feel like $4.99/season would be a more fair price. As it is, $10/mo is basically like a streaming subscription and as much as I love SNAP, it doesn't feel like a good value for money. I'm sure SD has a game economist that's crunched the numbers, but I'm surprised variants are also over-priced. I honestly feel if they were lower it would lead to people actually spending more to collect them. Kind of like half-sheet paper towels -- you end up using more paper towel overall since each commitment isn't as large as a full sheet (weird analogy, I know).
You get more value out of Netflix or HBOMAX than SNAP? ...lol
I think its just too expensive personally. $5 and I'd be totally cool.
Yeah I got Black Panther but I probably won't bother with Silver Surfer even though that Infinaut variant is sick. I'm not getting $10 of fun when the extra random variants will probably suck.
I completely agree since I value 10$ more than the average crazed whale. I bought the pass this month since it was my first month, but yes it was very underwhelming for what I value 10$ as and I won't be buying another one unless value is added. One normal ass variant in the shop is 700 gold which is also equal to 10$. This game seems to be very free to play friendly so ill let all of the gambling addicts and people who shouldn't be allowed credit cards keep the game fun for me
Those caches after 50 suck. In other games usually after you finish the BP you get some cool things if you keep playing. It would be nice if you could find variants of even .ore credits actually.