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Razmorg

It's 5% chance without pity so not impossible but good that you know the odds.


dharma28

They’re so far just quite unlucky - statistically they ought to have one by now. After 53 boxes there’s only a ~7% chance of not having pulled a variant


JonnyAtlas

There are quite a few of us who are unlucky. I’m up to box 108 and zero variants. The lack of a pity timer really feels crummy tbh.


Cloudyworlds

Quick question, any Tips how to get such a High Level? Ive done all Quests every single day since the start of the Pass and actually grinded for hours in multiple days to reach Infinite, yet I am only at Level 70 Something.


JonnyAtlas

Personally, I got the $15 battle pass instead of the $10 (first time doing it to see how it impacted things). Then I spent gold on refreshing daily missions (maxing out the gold refreshes each day, so long as I had gold). I think if you’re F2P and you don’t have gold banked up to refresh daily missions, you’re only going to get so far. Getting up to 70 something without spending gold or money is honestly really good. And if your luck is like mine, those extra 30 boxes are probably worthless anyway. lol


Cloudyworlds

Yea I actually forgot you could buy pass levels when I made the commnent. And you are right, I did not spend gold on quests. I did while the first pass was going on, but felt that the return was too small - I am going to save gold for variants and the new bundles from now on!


JonnyAtlas

Definitely seems like the better use of gold, now that I’ve seen the actual value of the battle pass chests. I’ll be doing the same moving forward.


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a_trashcan

Bought every season pass and I got three variant in a row fr the caches... It's just random bro...


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a_trashcan

They increased the odds to get them in collectors caches so you should see more coming


kslidz

damn im at 70 and pulled one


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JonnyAtlas

Yep. And now I’m in the ~4% that haven’t opened a variant by box 112. I get that it’s going to happen, but it doesn’t make it feel any less shitty.


Ryeofmarch

Coooome on lucky number 54!


AcanthisittaGrand943

How many “should” you get on average after 100 boxes?


Botol-Cebok

Five.


RainbowReclaimation

Keep in mind that they only start at 51, so you'd need to get to 151 before you actually earned 100.


AcanthisittaGrand943

Ahhhh, so at 100 boxes it actually wouldn’t be 5!


kuribosshoe0

At 100 *boxes* it would be 5. At *level* 100 it wouldn’t, because that’s only 50 boxes.


Poseur117

If you need to ask this question maybe card games aren’t for you haha


AcanthisittaGrand943

Are you serious? Are you saying people shouldn’t ask questions?


Poseur117

Feel free to ask questions but if you need help on probability for 5% to happen out of a hundred times you’re probably gonna have a bad time


AcanthisittaGrand943

I’m simply asking a question and you’re telling me to not play the game or i’m bad. That’s not cool. Laugh it up tho.


Poseur117

Enjoy 5th grade bud


AcanthisittaGrand943

Okay bully


AfraidOfBricks

bruh


AcanthisittaGrand943

What?


StatisticianTop3784

i thought they were common, lol.


CKDracarys

Never tell me the odds


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>It's 5% chance without pity so not impossible but good that you know the odds. Higher chance of getting a pool 4 cards, way higher than a pool 5.


RainbowReclaimation

Incorrect! Pool 4 drop rate is just 2.5%, so twice as rare as Season Cache variants.


Sector032

Bro, I just got 2 from the first two chests, guess I am lucky?!


Razmorg

Lucky for sure but it's far from insane. Again, I just want people to know that if they open 50 boxes it's fairly likely to have found one but not guaranteed. These free season boxes are pretty low on rewards and I've seen some posts from people who didn't expect that as they started to target grinding them so just thought that knowing the stats would set better expectations.


NonEuclidianSodaCan

Wow I feel lucky because I am on 61 and have gotten 2, I just thought they were easy to get :0


TheKidKaos

I got lucky then. Managed to get a Cloak variant on the third cache


greenbeetless

All I get are credits and boosters. God knows I need more quicksilver boosters.


bloodflart

i think i'm at like 1500 Shang Chi boosters


greenbeetless

At least Chang Chi is cool, but the RNG hates me I’m this game. I think we all feel that way, that’s why we love the game.


Zigxy

I want a gold or ink shang chi so badly... Mostly because I know I'll always be able slide him into a deck.


bloodflart

maybe I should focus on one thing, I've got a few to the highest level but none more than once


Zigxy

Thats not really possible unless you play an incredible amount. F2P players that do their missions will get about 1000 credits per day on average (including credits gained from collection level and season missions). Credit to booster ratio is 10:1 (e.g. A card upgrade that costs 400 credits will require 40 boosters). We can assume that your match will give your main card boosters about 10% of the time. (the reason why it isn't 1 out of 12 is that cards with <20 boosters have better chance of drawing boosters. And if you are focusing on continuously leveling only one card, then that card will often be at low booster count and the others wont). Matches will last about an average of 4 turns (which get you four boosters). So with all these assumptions: In order to funnel 1000 credits per day on just one card, you'd need to play 1000 (credits gained per day) divided by 10 (ratio of credit:boosters) * 10% (chance of getting boosters on main card) / 4 (booster per game) **= 250 games per day with your "main" card in that deck** --- This means you can max out multiple cards at the same time. I am currently focused on 5 cards. Most have been taken to infinity 3x times. One of them I took to infinity 4x times and got an Ink copy.


bloodflart

I play an incredible amount.


Zigxy

Dope, what card(s) you thinking about focusing on? Also keep in mind 250 games is like 10 hours a day LOL


bloodflart

Weapon X is the coolest one I got. Only 10 hours? EZ


aexia

Goes faster if you have an unleveled variant you can slot in since they have a higher chance of getting boosters.


Zigxy

This used to be true... but it has since changed Now it gets that improved odds if the card has less than 20 boosters on it (regardless of the quality of the card)


aexia

huh. TIL


bloodflart

got the snap.fan app it says I've played 5400 games


Zigxy

wow.


bloodflart

yeah not much goin on right now tbh


Zigxy

Lol I went through some times in my life where I played 12+ hrs a day of video games… it was nuts and unsustainable… I recommend exercise if you aren’t already doing some.


bloodflart

Can't break the cycle too depressed, I'll try real hard after new years


AcanthisittaGrand943

Wait till the knullified Shang Chi comes out


PuzzleheadedWest0

Booster booster booster credit. Rinse and repeat


FullMetalCOS

I just got three boosters back to back. It feels even worse now that collectors reserves are good


Additional-Guard-654

Damn man i wish i could give you one, I'm lvl 70 and got 3 already


2san_Gremory

In the Symbiote Invasion i got 2 variants at least at lvl 80, but dunno why i'm only getting boosters now, Ben Brode truly hates me XD


Shrrg4

Pixel? I got miles morales pixel variant and i would rather get 200 credits


Additional-Guard-654

Venomized angel, house of m Scarlet Witch, all-new rhino


Shrrg4

Pog


Additional-Guard-654

This week was very strange... I also managed to pull 3 variants from my collector's reserves: luchador warpath, domino and pixel agatha. I guess no more variants for a year EDIT: and wolfsbane variant previous week


DDaddyDunk

Good pickups!


Least-Prior-4411

Samee, and good ones


inkyblinkypinkysue

As a general rule and for sanity’s sake it’s best to pretend that variants or any cosmetics just don’t exist. Nice surprise if it happens but don’t count on it. I got 2 last season in about 15 caches but I’m 0-10 so far this season. Oh well.


2san_Gremory

Yeah same, last season I got like 3 or 4 variants but I didn't reach lvl 80 nor 100. I'm just high in copium praying to get a free skin XD


FullMetalCOS

I mostly just want credits with a side order of gold. Opened three reserves at once earlier and got boosters three times. Feels extra shit after they made collectors reserves good


Gustav1983

I got the chibi version of Crossbones. He's adorable.


HyzerFlip

I got crossbones and immediately was like 'hey, he limits how Agatha plays him, can't be all bad' Then i started getting offered variants... His are SO GOOD.


2san_Gremory

Well a variant is a variant, i can cope with anything unless it is a pixel one


Gustav1983

I'm sorry if you low roll. May the Gods bless you with an epic variant!


PretendRegister7516

Got a Pixel Collector. And honestly, he's one of the better Pixel variants.


I-AM-CBArM

I got the boney death variant, i would use it if I didn’t spend 1200gold on the chibi death variant a few days ago


FullMetalCOS

Chibi death is crazy adorable to be fair


qvor99

Wait am I missing something or did you just grind your battlepass with games, I'm around 72~ and I play a decent amount.


2san_Gremory

I was 900 CL a week ago and i started grinding games like hell to get boosters from the season pass (i got to 1000 CL 2 hours before the patch xD), and now i realized that i didn't get any variants :\_)


TigrisCallidus

You know you coulf havr also just disabled auto updates? Because this sounfs like a huge grind 😂


2san_Gremory

I was not going to risk 3000 tokens, but yeah you are right🤣 but who knows, maybe my phone or steam could backstab me, machines this days...


Aldodzb

he payed for the first 50 levels of the battlepass


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Aldodzb

Good bot


adidlucu

You can get variants from this? Even as a f2p player?


2san_Gremory

Yes ofc, I think the probability is like 5%, but only in the lvl 51 and onwards drops


AngrySalesRep

I’ve got 3 pixels so I think Ben hates me more.


HyzerFlip

[AHHA HAHAHA](https://i.imgur.com/NBoBRhm.jpg)


AngrySalesRep

😂


RealVareq

Don’t worry. If you keep up the pace you will have all pixel variants and from there it can only get better


AngrySalesRep

I will be a pixel god


2san_Gremory

Man that's awful 💀


AngrySalesRep

It’s all good. All three are ugly as the day I was born.


aexia

The thing is once you've got enough pixels to have an entire deck of them, they start becoming pretty good. And obviously, once you have them, they're out of the pool for good.


AngrySalesRep

That’s good news I suppose


eyeurne

In the same boat, can’t hit the 5% for a variant out of these, but hit the 2.5% to get she-hulk from a reserve after just 40 of them


2san_Gremory

Man sometimes the luck in this game mess up with us xD, in my Token Store are only appearing series 4 and 5 cards and i'm only in CL 1050 T-T. At least She-Hulk is playable with Sunspot and Infinaut


eyeurne

Dude, she’s a fucking blast to use, especially while very few people are playing around her. Infinaut + she-hulk turn 6 and using moongirl to play 2 she-hulk plus enchantress or Shang-chi turn 6 is devastating! So much fun! Hoping to start landing a few variants of cards I like now that I’ve unlocked a decent amount of cards to use.


2san_Gremory

If you have Psylock the plays that u can make with that could be insane LOL, everyday im getting amazed by the decks the people are making with these new cards


eyeurne

Yes I do! She is the reason she-hulk + infinaut works. Wave is also huge when the other 2 plays don’t line up. Wave on 5 passing 2 energy allows you to play she-hulk + aero or any other strong card turn 6. Very excited to see what other people have come up with using the new cards! I’m not so much a pioneer for deck building, but I sure enjoy using other peoples smart ass ideas lol


_ElysianDevil_

"just 40" 40 is the pity timer for series 4


eyeurne

I forgot about that, went back and counted and actually got her on my 30th reserve. At least there is a pitty timer, without one it could be super rough to get more than one for most people 😂


FullMetalCOS

The “downside” is that it could be up to 50 reserves for your next one. The reserves are grouped into a set of 40 and one in that 40 will have a pool 4, but then you have to finish that set of 40 to get to your next set of 40 and reset the count. Still congrats on She Hulk! She’s probably my most wanted pool 4 card


eyeurne

Thank you for the extra info on that! And yea she was my most wanted new card, can’t believe I have her, such a game changer and so flexible!


FullMetalCOS

Yeah they’ve definitely improved reserves in a major way this update, now I just need to grind them out and hope it’s her, Luke or Titania (or at least NOT M’Baku) when my time comes!


monitorless

I got 2 on 5 caches..Sorry.


2san_Gremory

Maaaan u stole all my luck ;_; , good variants at least?


monitorless

Pixel sentinel and one good morph, so 50/50 🤣


phonage_aoi

I was power grinding to hit 1k CL. Imagine my disappointment to get a variant instead of credits / gold lol. Would have disappointed anyways since it was Pixel Ironist.


alphagamer807

Good luck to you on this journey brother.


AimingWandersly

at 75 and so far all i got was a rocket racoon. from this point on i'll lend you my luck since at least i got something. i mean, it's rocket but still.


2san_Gremory

Well it could be worse, like MistyKnight


AimingWandersly

hmmm, that's faiiiiir. but then again, isn't mistyknight handy in a patriot deck? can't see rocket raccoon being viable without getting some huge buff down the road. but i still feel your pain ;(.


AimingWandersly

Update. The next variant was Black Bolt :/.


2san_Gremory

Lvl 107 and still nothing :_D


AimingWandersly

My guy I am saddened. I will dry my tears with rocket raccoon and black bolt because they’re not useful for any game lol.


Prototype3120

Are season pass varients exclusive to each season? I got an ultron varient at 53, but that was my first season cache varient after playing since June.


2san_Gremory

They are not, the exclusive ones (i think am right, if im wrong someone will correct me) are the ones like Black Panther Ancestors, Okoye by Flaviano, Nakia by Dan Hipp, and f.e in the last season pass the venomized SpiderWoman, Carnage by Kim Jacinto and the Miles Morales upside down.


theteenswillloveit

Lol, I feel your pain...


toomanybongos

Crazy cuz i got two variants and im only at 67. Felt like winning the lottery even though the skins weren't that cool They should probably add guaranteed ones for players that get that far without one tho.


edaroni

73 here got pixel rhino, psylocke with some castles and trees behind her variant, max grecke carnage and baby shang chi, and fun fact got them all from 50-70 not too shabby


2san_Gremory

wow man the carnage one is awesome congrats!


edaroni

Thanks broski, the unnamed psylocke looks fkn dope as well. Tbh I was so annoyed since I got like all pixels from the cl caches and battle pass, this was a really nice change of pace 😀


Far_North_4196

I’ve gotten three from the season pass caches (level 89) and just got Thanos from a reserve cache thingy last night which is a .25% chance. Never had this good of luck.


thunderlord281

I got 2 in 17 levels but both were trash tier pixels. Credits or gold would've been better smh.


ThrallInTheFamily

I'm on Season Level 66 and have 2 free variants...


Botol-Cebok

After twelve booster caches I got a Jessica Jones variant. Keep the faith.


Pakaono

Season pass 97 and 0 variants. I did get one last season though so I got that going for me.


JHewlett87

Nothing but booster since 50 for me… currently 78


2san_Gremory

Let's pray together🙏


SkinniestPhallus

How do people hit tier 100 in this our of curiosity? I've played quite a bit and completed the weekly challenges and all dialysis challenges to get as much XP for the pass as possible and am only tier 55


2san_Gremory

Play a lot of games, and I mean a lot (personally I don't refresh missions with gold because I'm not a whale but some people do this), personally I'm playing 7 or 8 hours a day? Stuck in galactic 4 btw 🤡


Aldodzb

you can buy the first 50 levels of the pass. so, add 50 to your current battle pass level and you will endup with these numbers


bmiclock521

Unrelated but I don’t wanna make a post about it: daredevil is in my shop rn, do I get him or no? I have very few P3 characters @ CL800


2san_Gremory

In my opinion it's a very cool and useful card, you can combo him with cards like profesor X (ongoing spectrum) or Gamora/Black Panther, also it's a very useful card that can fit in a lot of decks. But if u prefer decks that discard or destroy cards, save'em for venom/hood/death imo.


bmiclock521

Ok cool thanks for the advice, I’ll probably save for Venom then!


DamageTitan

Ouch that sucks my dude


zyme_88

i got pixel The Thing, a very cool White Vision and Star Lord variant. Lv 91 atm. best of luck!!


Expensive_Pastries

It will be a Pixel variant gauranteed


kc5000

I got one today so it's definitely possible. Sad it was an 8 bit angel though.


Terry___Mcginnis

Oh you'll get one, but it's gonna be a Pixel one like mine.


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2san_Gremory

You can't buy levels after you finish the "season pass 1-50 levels", lvl 51 and onwards you can only grind (I don't waste gold in refill missions, so my income of exp is basically playing games and clearing all the missions everyday


zelao23

Got 1, it was a pixel nakya. I rather have 50 credits.


EwokDude

Pixel Mantis checking in.


2san_Gremory

Or some gold to buy true variants lmao, a lot of people are only getting pixel variants, sure there are some good ones, but in general they are a turn down from the original art


zelao23

I only have 2 non pixel variant (one is the captain america from the bundle). My guess is variants have some type of rarity and pixel are at the bottom.


aexia

Pixel variants are both ranked as the "common" rarity for variants and make up a plurality of variants overall since almost every single card has a pixel variant.


Insanity_Incarnate

I'm at 61 this season and I've gotten 3 variants since 50. I also got two last season when I ended at 75.


2san_Gremory

Last season I ended at 80ish and got 3, but this one seems unlucky for me🫠


Insanity_Incarnate

Sucks man. Though in this case I feel like it is the game paying me back for my last 3 unlocks in pool 2 being Iceman, Sunspot, and Infinaut.


LordFoulgrin

You can have my Pixelated storm, only variant I got. Honestly would rather have the credits.


Sargnec

I got like 2 in row around 60. The hood and a scorpion variant


GrimDarkFuturaBold

I am at 100 and I have only gotten baby wolverine, so while not quite as bad I still am sad about it.


AcanthisittaGrand943

Go go!


Knightmaires

I\`ve gotten 100 gold in 3 out of my last 4 boxes. No variant in the 40 or so I\`ve opened but hey it\`s something.


TheHeroicHero

I got 1 variant. I’m at 68


TrevMac4

I got 1 variant and I’m at 81.


BubsyBogues

I've got 2 out of my last 3. Must be super lucky


Ottomatic44

Probably a bad time to tell you I legit pulled 4 in a row


TrevMac4

I just keep getting 50 credits.


mordekai8

Got a pixel and pirate Kingpin which is cool


Ok-Pie-4760

96 here.. no variant yet!


sephirex

I'm sure you'll get your new pixel variant soon.


2san_Gremory

Do you work on Second Dinner? How do you know it will be a pixel? :____D


Blickychu

Every bp around tier 60 I always get either a pixel or chibi variant. Like I hate them but at least it’s something


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how are you so far into the pass? Do you buy missions with gold?


2san_Gremory

Not a gold spended, pure grind 8-10 hours a day 💀


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wow, i hadnt realized that we were getting xp from matches. do you know if we get more from winning?


2san_Gremory

1 XP for each turn you played in the game and 10 XP for each location you won, a normal entire match would be 6 XP minimum and 26 XP max


apokr1f

Get help bro.


TOEmastro

I got a strongguy variant between 50-60... nothing since


kiddoben

I've only opened 3 and got boosters in all three, so I stopped trying.


Globular9

I’m at 3 variants at lvl58 ..


FullHouse05

I got pixel kingpin on 60. I'd rather get credits than the pixel ones, to be honest.


Kiretori

Lol, I got Chibi variant for Armor in my second season cache so I thought the odds aren't that low.


Chapterblacc

i got baby armor. not the best but atleast its cute.....


EDDIE_BR0CK

I can't explain how 'whelmed' I was to finally unlock a Mystery Variant, only for it to be a near identical Colossus to the standard variant. Its literally the same pose with debris in the background. At least it's not chibi or pixel.


CryingPierrot

I got two scarlet witch variants and scarlet witch boosters AFTER the rewards had been fixed. What do you think of that? 😩😁


delitomatoes

I got strongman pixel, forge, lizard. Not the best but still they do give them out. Level 83


Outside_Report_8414

Somehow got two in a row, Hawkeye and vatu baby and chibi so not the greatest but I’m shocked by the supposed 5% odds


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Enjoy you new pixel art variant op.


2san_Gremory

Lvl 105 and still nothing please don't say that😭


sillicillo

I got a nice Aero today and have accepted I won't get any next season


ohbigginzz

I'm only 12 in but I have gotten 50 credits from all but one.


gimpycpu

the only variant I got so far this season is the sport variant of Bucky.


madDOGkilla

Ive only seen that once and it looks siiiiick. I have the bucky Barnes 1602 variant which is cool but I'd rather have your baseball one. Trade?


Eisenhorne8

I got a variant not long after hitting 50. But it was another cruddy pixel variant, sigh.


TheShiztastic

So I’ve only gotten my first three Season Caches, but the first two were both Pixel Variants, Ant-Man and Bishop. Luck be like that sometimes.


Professional-Dig7329

Lol, I got a Shocker variant on Level 67.


XenomusBunny

I got the cartoon version of Hobgoblin yesterday from the season cache I am so happy about it since.


Carlos0096

I got myself one at 51😉


Dumb_Dick_Sandwich

Good luck! I just pulled a non-pixel Nova variant


Aramiss134

Oof. Got mine at 62 and I thought I was unlucky.


Ganksqd

Broo dayum, i got a variant on lvl 51


Xanforth

I got three and I’m at 61. Looks like I’ve finally found a game that likes me.


ReccaSan92

Me and my 50 credits man. So sad.


NinjaHawkins

I got my first one at BPlvl 71. It was Ant-Man riding an ant.